Spoilers & Speculation: Running Hot & Cold

[johntfs]

12 hours ago, Proteus said:

The Kaupe that was running around the Time Bureau last episode.

Darien Martin played the Kaupe and this is what he looks like outside the Kaupe makeup:

So, I don't know about love, but I could totally see some lust on her part.  Poor Gary.

[Lugal]

20 hours ago, johntfs said:

How is Mona a fan of Mick Rory's work?  Has he been publishing this stuff under a pseudonym all along?

How much anime did Rory's work in 1950's Japan inspire?

[johntfs]

3 hours ago, Lugal said:

How much anime did Rory's work in 1950's Japan inspire?

Figure along with Tagumo, Mick inspired tentacle porn hentai.

[Proteus]

On November 24, 2018 at 10:43 AM, johntfs said:

Darien Martin played the Kaupe and this is what he looks like outside the Kaupe makeup:

So, I don't know about love, but I could totally see some lust on her part.  Poor Gary.

I hope Mona likes Gary. The guy needs a break and seems in to her so I hope she not into the Kaupe.

I like that Sara will hate Hank because of how he treats Ava. Interesting that Zari will catch on that somethings not right with the Time Bureau:

https://tvline.com/2018/11/25/legends-of-tomorrow-spoilers-season-4-episode-6-nate-charlie-meet/

Elsewhere in the episode, Nate’s dad Hank (guest star Tom Wilson) questions the spending habits of the Legends, so his son invites him aboard the Waverider for the team’s latest mission to 1920s Paris. But not everyone is happy to have “the money guy” along for the ride.

“Sara hates Hank, because Hank… is not very nice to Ava,” Caity Lotz, who plays the Waverider’s captain, explained. “Ava follows the rules and the hierarchy, and Sara does not care about that.”

The time travelers may have even more reason to hate Hank after his mysterious Project Hades agenda is revealed. “Just wait until you find out what his real intentions are!” Lotz teased with a laugh.

Whatever Hank has in the works, it will set off alarm bells for Zari, who is “wary of the Time Bureau,” Tala Ashe said. “As time goes on, she’s going to be one of the people who’s suspicious of the shady things that may be happening there, and she’s very much willing to go and try to figure out what’s going on there. She’s always going to, I think, rub up against authority on a certain level.”

Edited November 25, 2018 by Proteus

[Proteus]

https://www.cbr.com/legends-tomorrow-hank-heywood-project-hades/

[Miss Dee]

...okay, I need a Time Courier so I can see that caravan episode, like, now.

[Proteus]

In depth Matt Ryan interview from the set visit. I wonder who the maybe love interest might be for Constantine:

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/matt-ryan-explains-how-constantine-confronts-his-dark-past-and-old-shows-in-legends-of

Caity & Brandon preview two part mid season finale:

https://comicbook.com/dc/2018/11/27/the-legends-of-tomorrow-cast-teases-a-two-part-midseason-finale/

Edited November 27, 2018 by Proteus

[Miss Dee]

No Victor Garber for puppet Stein? Awww.

[darkestboy]

Really hoping it's a male love interest to be honest.

[Starfish35]

From Matt’s Inside Line:

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Will Legends of Tomorrow‘s Sara ever mention her father’s death, even if it’s just one comment? –This Is B
Thus far not yet during Season 4, though Caity Lotz says, “It’s something I think that could come back at any time because, obviously, that’s something that will affect your whole life…. There’s so much to do in this season and in this world, and with so many characters…. It’s hard to fit it all in there, but I’d like to.”

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What can we expect from Legends of Tomorrow‘s Mona? –Derrick
As suggested in this past Monday’s episode, “She gets very involved in a lot of the action,” says new series regular Ramona Young. “And she may or may not even start developing feelings for one of the captives….”

[Starfish35]

I’m seeing pics on Tumblr of Ava, Sara, and Gideon in what is assumed to be “Legends of To-Meow-Meow”, but I can’t find links (supposedly they’re from Twitter?).  Anyone know where they’re coming from?

Never mind - they’re the official episode photos.  I didn’t realize they were out yet, but I should have thought to check. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Edited November 30, 2018 by Starfish35

[Starfish35]

In any case, good to see Amy Pemberton again. 😸

[Sakura12]

Are they evil Charlie's Angels. Lol. 

What did Constantine and Zari screw up that Gideon exists in a girl spy/assassin group with Sara and Ava. 

I'm even more excited for Legends mid season finale then I am for the Arrowverse crossover. 

[Starfish35]

They’re the official episode photos - I didn’t realize they were out yet, since the “Hell No, Dolly” photos were just released a couple of days ago.  Anyway, I’ve posted them in the Media thread.

The episode title of #413 is “Egg McGuffin”, (Source) filming now.  

[Sakura12]

Is that a dragon egg? 

I'm glad they always find a way to have Gideon in human form every season. 

[Starfish35]

Just now, Sakura12 said:

Is that a dragon egg? 

That was my thought too. 

And yes, I’m glad to see Gideon in human form again.  How many times is this?  Three? 

[Sakura12]

I wonder how many different versions of Legends we'll see in the mid season finale? I want to see cats that looks similar to our team sitting around the waverider.

[Starfish35]

From Matt’s Inside Line:

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Will one of the Legends of Tomorrow be the Big Bad this season? — Derrick
Here’s what I can tell you. Or, more accurately, what Maisie Richardson-Sellers can tell you. “[Season 4’s Big Bad] is completely unexpected. Everything you would assume, it’s the opposite. And I think that’s fantastic,” Charlie’s portrayer teases. “This is the first year where we’ve shot almost half a [season], and only now is the Big Bad beginning to come in.” OK, but who/what is it…? “It’s someone or multiple people who have emotional connections with us and, therefore, makes defeating the Big Bad even more difficult and complex,” she said. ” I think a lot of people are going to be heartbroken in the process of doing it.”

[johntfs]

Obviously the Big Bad this season will be Zari.  She'll leave the corpses of small animals around the Waverider as "gifts" to the other Legends...

[Starfish35]

2 minutes ago, johntfs said:

Obviously the Big Bad this season will be Zari.  She'll leave the corpses of small animals around the Waverider as "gifts" to the other Legends...

It took me a second, but........ROFL! 🤣

[tv echo]

Exclusive Interview: Puppet Atom, Puppet Steel, and Puppet White Canary Talk 'Legends of Tomorrow'
By RUSS BURLINGAME - December 7, 2018
https://comicbook.com/2018/12/07/legends-of-tomorrow-puppets-interview/

Edited December 8, 2018 by tv echo

[Starfish35]

Episode #414 is “Nip | Stuck”, filming now (source).

I’m guessing this will be the last episode filmed before the holiday break?

[Proteus]

Phil Klemmer discusses Hank/Neron twist:

https://ew.com/tv/2018/12/10/legends-of-tomorrow-hank-neron-twist/

[lurker22]

10 hours ago, Starfish35 said:

Episode #414 is “Nip | Stuck”, filming now (source).

I wonder if the title is a reference to "Nip/Tuck", which gets me thinking - plastic surgery, changing one's look, shapeshifter, stuck in one look, Charlie, so maybe a Charlie-centric episode? But I don't know what the picture is. An avalanche? Or it could refer to Gary's lost nipple stuck in hell.

As for the Big Bad, I think it's clear (even before the mid season finale reveal), that it was going to be Hank and Desmond, since they were the only 2 big emotional stories this season. I would be more surprised, if they added Zari's family, like her brother, since that's another emotional story they sorta covered.

Edited December 11, 2018 by lurker22

[MarkHB]

On 12/11/2018 at 3:24 AM, Proteus said:

Phil Klemmer discusses Hank/Neron twist:

https://ew.com/tv/2018/12/10/legends-of-tomorrow-hank-neron-twist/

From the article (quoting Klemmer):

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“When we started out the season, we knew we wanted Nate’s dad to kind of be a bit of a villain. Then something kind of funny happened when we hired Tom Wilson and we saw his chemistry with [Nick Zano], and then we had him sing a James Taylor tune, and all of a sudden, I think, the writers’ room was like, ‘Oh my god, do we really have the stomach to go through with making him our arch-villain, our totally irredeemable scumbag?'”

In other words (say it with me):

• Create the plan
• Execute the plan
• Expect the plan to go off the rails
• Throw away the plan

[Miss Dee]

LOL So fitting.

I think that's why Legends works like it does, though. You need to plan things out, but you also need to recognize when serendipity gives you a different opportunity and have the courage and foresight to seize the moment. It sounds as though the writers' room can do that.

And honestly, after James Taylor I too was wishing Hank could stick around as a Legend rather than the Big Bad, so I'm thrilled to know the writers feel similarly. We need another elder statesman on the ship anyway; Mick's a little too young for that role just yet.

[tv echo]

 

[MarkHB]

That place is here but NSFW!  Should be a good Mick episode; it's a strip club.

[Starfish35]

The current episode in production is #415 “Terms of Service” (source).  Only one more to go!

[Miss Dee]

Oh Lord. Someone's getting chained to a demon or selling their soul.

[BaggythePanther]

2 hours ago, Miss Dee said:

Oh Lord. Someone's getting chained to a demon or selling their soul.

Didn’t Constantine say that he’s already sold his soul? 

[tv echo]

[MarkHB]

Going back to New Orleans maybe?

[Proteus]

Sara possessed again?

[Starfish35]

#416, the season finale, is titled “Hey, World!” (source)  The graphic seems to indicate we’ll be seeing a return of some of the season’s monsters.

[Starfish35]

Also, this is interesting.

[Proteus]

A lot of creatures for 4x15:

[darkestboy]

Thank frack I have Gotham because the wait otherwise for the second half of Season 4 would be worse than it is.

I can't wait to see how this Constantine/Neron storyline will play out. 

[lurker22]

That sounds like when Sara died on Arrow. With the clip where Sara's eyes are black as if she's been possessed, I wonder if Neron is forcing Sara to relive her death?

[Maelstrom]

On 1/20/2019 at 7:43 AM, lurker22 said:

That sounds like when Sara died on Arrow. With the clip where Sara's eyes are black as if she's been possessed, I wonder if Neron is forcing Sara to relive her death?

Which death? You’ll have to be more specific ;)

[Sakura12]

I'm waiting for them to name an episode "Legen...wait for it" 

[MarkHB]

31 minutes ago, Sakura12 said:

I'm waiting for them to name an episode "Legen...wait for it" 

They no longer have the budget for everyone to suit up!

[Sakura12]

It will make more sense then, they can suit up into their costumes. We would be waiting for the "dary" part which is using their powers. Lol 

[BaggythePanther]

On 1/23/2019 at 7:28 AM, Sakura12 said:

It will make more sense then, they can suit up into their costumes. We would be waiting for the "dary" part which is using their powers. Lol 

Knowing Legends it be a two parter "Legen...wait for it"/“Dairy” where they suit up in part one and end up doing something ridiculous in part two.

[johntfs]

5 hours ago, BaggythePanther said:

Knowing Legends it be a two parter "Legen...wait for it"/“Dairy” where they suit up in part one and end up doing something ridiculous in part two.

"Legen...wait for it" They suit up to do battle.

"Dairy" they have to fight the bad guy in cow costumes.

[Miss Dee]

Just as long as they meet somebody's mother in the first part.

[MarkHB]

1 hour ago, Miss Dee said:

Just as long as they meet somebody's mother in the first part.

No, that's the sign that they're going to be cancelled.

[darkestboy]

They've gotten a fifth season, so we're good for a little bit longer.

[BaggythePanther]

On 1/29/2019 at 5:19 AM, Miss Dee said:

Just as long as they meet somebody's mother in the first part.

Such a missed opportunity that Rip never met Sara’s mother.

[legaleagle53]

On 1/29/2019 at 4:19 AM, Miss Dee said:

Just as long as they meet somebody's mother in the first part.

That reminds me of this exchange between Nate and Ray after Nate meets Ray's mother when Ray was a child:

Nate:  Why didn't you tell me your mom was hot?

Ray:  Ew. Why would I tell you that?

Edited February 3, 2019 by legaleagle53