S05.E14: Surprise!

[motorcitymom65]

Kim was livid that LisaR had the unmitigated gall to ask Miss Sobriety if she'd been drinking. In Kim's altered state those were fighting words especially in front of the camera. She continued to have a total melt down attacking LisaR verbally and kicking at the guy filming in the front seat. I would have told the driver to take Kim to a hospital emergency room for a fitting...of a white jacket.  Rather than allow her to go to a planned event in that state.  I would then have called Kyle and told her the name of the hospital and went to the poker game just saying that Kim was sick.  The mess would then have been left to her sister to take care of...not the other ladies.  Most importantly the viewing audience would have been spared from viewing a horrid scene between three adults. 

 

Or on the other hand...in all fairness to LisaR she did indeed notify Kyle before the poker game started that Kim was sick.  After a quick assessment, Kyle should have escorted Kim back to a limo and taken her directly to the emergency room.  Any human being complaining of 100% pain and taking someone else's prescription belongs in a hospital...period.  She sure as hell didn't belong in front of the cameras.  A firm hand needs to be taken with someone exhibiting Kim's very out of control behavior. If need be, Kyle should have called off the whole Bravo filming event for the health of her sister...f-the film crew, f-the loss of time, f-the loss of revenue.  My sister's health would have been top priority and I would have asked Brandi for her help rather than fighting with her.

 

If these are the kind of calls Kyle/Brandi got at late at night I would think they were knowledgeable that Kim was out of her gourd long before poker night. 

I don't think it has been stated anywhere that Lisar sent the text to Kyle before the Poker Game started.  For all we know she sent it to her at the table when she saw Kyle's worried glances at her sister. 

[WireWrap]

Kim was livid that LisaR had the unmitigated gall to ask Miss Sobriety if she'd been drinking. In Kim's altered state those were fighting words especially in front of the camera. She continued to have a total melt down attacking LisaR verbally and kicking at the guy filming in the front seat. I would have told the driver to take Kim to a hospital emergency room for a fitting...of a white jacket.  Rather than allow her to go to a planned event in that state.  I would then have called Kyle and told her the name of the hospital and went to the poker game just saying that Kim was sick.  The mess would then have been left to her sister to take care of...not the other ladies.  Most importantly the viewing audience would have been spared from viewing a horrid scene between three adults. 

 

Or on the other hand...in all fairness to LisaR she did indeed notify Kyle before the poker game started that Kim was sick.  After a quick assessment, Kyle should have escorted Kim back to a limo and taken her directly to the emergency room.  Any human being complaining of 100% pain and taking someone else's prescription belongs in a hospital...period.  She sure as hell didn't belong in front of the cameras.  A firm hand needs to be taken with someone exhibiting Kim's very out of control behavior. If need be, Kyle should have called off the whole Bravo filming event for the health of her sister...f-the film crew, f-the loss of time, f-the loss of revenue.  My sister's health would have been top priority and I would have asked Brandi for her help rather than fighting with her.

 

If these are the kind of calls Kyle/Brandi got at late at night I would think they were knowledgeable that Kim was out of her gourd long before poker night. 

I don't think Kyle had any idea that Kim was suffering "100% pain", she did not tell Kyle that she took a pain pill until after she followed Kyle into the bathroom. Other than her, Kim, bizarre behavior, I'm not sure Kyle knew exactly what was going on with her sister at first. I also highly doubt that Kim would have gone to the hospital with Kyle or anyone at that party, I think only Monty could convince her to go.

I don't think it has been stated anywhere that Lisar sent the text to Kyle before the Poker Game started.  For all we know she sent it to her at the table when she saw Kyle's worried glances at her sister. 

She also could have told her in the kitchen after Kim first started to leave, before the snarky/nasty Thanks.

[talula]

I don't think it has been stated anywhere that Lisar sent the text to Kyle before the Poker Game started.  For all we know she sent it to her at the table when she saw Kyle's worried glances at her sister. 

Your right no one is exactly sure when LisaR texted Kyle.

 

 I think there is a deep seeded chronic problem and the two sisters can no longer allow this misery to continue.  Kim has to be removed from next years cast, IMO only.

[motorcitymom65]

Your right no one is exactly sure when LisaR texted Kyle.

 

 I think there is a deep seeded chronic problem and the two sisters can no longer allow this misery to continue.  Kim has to be removed from next years cast, IMO only.

It is my hope that Kim is gone next season. As long as she is on, part of her storyline is always going to be her sobriety. There is simply no way around it. Every time she says something silly (like she does whether drunk or sober), every time she is late, every time she is erratic, the conversation will always go back to her sobriety. She will never be able to distance herself from this. The same is the case with Kyle. She will never not be judged for her reactions to Kim and her behavior. 

 

I know there has been talk in the past that Kyle makes it part of her contract that Kim continue to be on the show. I never believed this for a minute. How much better would it be for Kyle to not constantly be judged against this mess that is Kim's life? And as a person who has always liked Kyle, I can still say that I will not believe for one second that she would be magnanimous enough to walk away from this small-time shot at fame because they didn't want Kim. After all the shit that Kim has probably put Kyle through, anyone really believe Kyle is going to put her Bravo contract in Kim's erratic hands? No way in hell.  What I do believe is that there are folks at Bravo who feel a tad bit of responsibility for some of the stuff that has happened to Kim. They decided to show the Limo Reveal. There was no real need to do that. The focus on the season had not been on Kim's alcoholism. They showed what I still believe to be the most raw scene ever on any of these shows. It is still hard for me to watch it now. I get they are on a reality show, but that shit was so real and haunting. It didn't just involve K&K, it involved their kids and everyone else in their family. I think that at the end of the day, Bravo feels some sort of loyalty to Kim for bringing all of this to our TV's. I can just see no other reason why she had been able to maintain her status at full-time HW for all of these years. She has rarely had any storyline at all, save for her dependancy.  

[talula]

It is my hope that Kim is gone next season. As long as she is on, part of her storyline is always going to be her sobriety. There is simply no way around it. Every time she says something silly (like she does whether drunk or sober), every time she is late, every time she is erratic, the conversation will always go back to her sobriety. She will never be able to distance herself from this. The same is the case with Kyle. She will never not be judged for her reactions to Kim and her behavior. 

 

I know there has been talk in the past that Kyle makes it part of her contract that Kim continue to be on the show. I never believed this for a minute. How much better would it be for Kyle to not constantly be judged against this mess that is Kim's life? And as a person who has always liked Kyle, I can still say that I will not believe for one second that she would be magnanimous enough to walk away from this small-time shot at fame because they didn't want Kim. After all the shit that Kim has probably put Kyle through, anyone really believe Kyle is going to put her Bravo contract in Kim's erratic hands? No way in hell.  What I do believe is that there are folks at Bravo who feel a tad bit of responsibility for some of the stuff that has happened to Kim. They decided to show the Limo Reveal. There was no real need to do that. The focus on the season had not been on Kim's alcoholism. They showed what I still believe to be the most raw scene ever on any of these shows. It is still hard for me to watch it now. I get they are on a reality show, but that shit was so real and haunting. It didn't just involve K&K, it involved their kids and everyone else in their family. I think that at the end of the day, Bravo feels some sort of loyalty to Kim for bringing all of this to our TV's. I can just see no other reason why she had been able to maintain her status at full-time HW for all of these years. She has rarely had any storyline at all, save for her dependancy.  

I believe you may be right about Bravo feeling guilty regarding Kim...this last season may give them what they need to show Kim's problems are chronic and also give Kyle the knowledge that things are deeply dysfunctional.  The two sisters need a long break from each other as it relates to RHOBH. 

[AnnA]

Does Kim really have a choice whether or not to return to RHOBH next season?  If she doesn't, what would be her source of income?  Mauricio and Kyle?  I think she'll stay as long as Bravo will have her.  If Kim does not return to RHOBH, Kyle will have to give up her victim/martyr role or find someone else to blame for all her suffering.  Can you tell that I'm not a fan of the Richards sisters?  It might just be time for a reboot of the show and replace these two with new HWs.

[WireWrap]

Does Kim really have a choice whether or not to return to RHOBH next season?  If she doesn't, what would be her source of income?  Mauricio and Kyle?  I think she'll stay as long as Bravo will have her.  If Kim does not return to RHOBH, Kyle will have to give up her victim/martyr role or find someone else to blame for all her suffering.  Can you tell that I'm not a fan of the Richards sisters?  It might just be time for a reboot of the show and replace these two with new HWs.

I would rather Bravo get rid of Kim and Brandi after the reunion is shown. It might be interesting to see Kyle without Kim as back up or a cause of strife.

[motorcitymom65]

Does Kim really have a choice whether or not to return to RHOBH next season?  If she doesn't, what would be her source of income?  Mauricio and Kyle?  I think she'll stay as long as Bravo will have her.  If Kim does not return to RHOBH, Kyle will have to give up her victim/martyr role or find someone else to blame for all her suffering.  Can you tell that I'm not a fan of the Richards sisters?  It might just be time for a reboot of the show and replace these two with new HWs.

I don't think Kim makes as much money as folks would think. I don't think that she makes as much as Brandi does, which is less than $200K a year. I have never gotten the impression that this is about the money for her. I think it was about giving her something to get out of bed for. I do think that if Bravo asks her back, she will come back. I am just hoping that they do not. 

[AnnA]

I would rather Bravo get rid of Kim and Brandi after the reunion is shown. It might be interesting to see Kyle without Kim as back up or a cause of strife.

  

Brandi is a mess and often pushes the inappropriate into disgusting territory and yet there were a few times I felt sorry for her......go figure!

On the other hand I never cared for Kim or Kyle and not once ever felt the least bit sorry for either one of them.

 

I don't think Kim makes as much money as folks would think. I don't think that she makes as much as Brandi does, which is less than $200K a year. I have never gotten the impression that this is about the money for her. I think it was about giving her something to get out of bed for. I do think that if Bravo asks her back, she will come back. I am just hoping that they do not.

I agree with you. She will be back if Bravo will have her.

Somewhere? Someone? Said that Kim gets 100k from Bravo. I don't know if that's true or not but considering that Kim often has difficulty showing up on time and is frequently impaired, it's unlikely that she could hold down a regular job. Her work on RHOBH is less than part-time and yet she's pulling in six figures.

Edited February 24, 2015 by AnnA

[msblossom]

I don't think Kim makes as much money as folks would think. I don't think that she makes as much as Brandi does, which is less than $200K a year. I have never gotten the impression that this is about the money for her. I think it was about giving her something to get out of bed for. I do think that if Bravo asks her back, she will come back. I am just hoping that they do not.

You made my heart go all soft with that one sentence, motorcitymom65. And for the last season and a half I finally developed a tough skin when it concerned Kim.

ETA: Soft spot moment aside, I am hoping season 6 will be Kim-free and hope we never suffer another season of Kim and her addictions again.

Edited February 24, 2015 by msblossom

[WireWrap]

  

Brandi is a mess and often pushes the inappropriate into disgusting territory and yet there were a few times I felt sorry for her......go figure!

On the other hand I never cared for Kim or Kyle and not once ever felt the least bit sorry for either one of them.

I agree with you. She will be back if Bravo will have her.

Somewhere? Someone? Said that Kim gets 100k from Bravo. I don't know if that's true or not but considering that Kim often has difficulty showing up on time and is frequently impaired, it's unlikely that she could down a regular job. Her work on RHOBH is less than part-time and yet she's pulling in six figures.

I use to like her but not now. At some point you have to grow up and most do not have the ability to see ourselves in action on film, yet I see no growth in her, none, no self reflection, if anything she has become arrogant since joining the show. Time for Brandi to move on to other things and leave RHs behind.

 

I have never been a fan of the sisters but part of that is they way they act together. When they fight each other they remind me of toddlers that are in desperate need of some serious time out in separate corners and when they team up against another HW, they are ugly/nasty women that enjoy causing pain to their target. Kim's only storyline is her addiction and I am tired of it and have no interest in seeing her lie day in and day out about her "sobriety". Kyle, IMO, may be different without Kim as backup and without her whining about Kim's nasty behavior. I would also like to see how she handles conflicts without Kim's tag team help. But, if Bravo feels the need to fire her as well, so be it.

[WireWrap]

I don't think Kim makes as much money as folks would think. I don't think that she makes as much as Brandi does, which is less than $200K a year. I have never gotten the impression that this is about the money for her. I think it was about giving her something to get out of bed for. I do think that if Bravo asks her back, she will come back. I am just hoping that they do not. 

According to Kim and Kyle, the reason Kim is on the show was so that she could make/have some "girlfriends"....or as you put it, "get out of bed"! LOL

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q2HKTcttf4   7:02 mark

[ryebread]

I would rather Bravo get rid of Kim and Brandi after the reunion is shown. It might be interesting to see Kyle without Kim as back up or a cause of strife.

I've never liked Kyle but I'd be down for this.  Now that she and Mo are rolling in the dough, I'd like to see how conspicuous their consumption gets, if at all.  If Kim was gone, this tedious, never ending drama of theirs would go, too.

 

when they team up against another HW, they are ugly/nasty women that enjoy causing pain to their target. Kim's only storyline is her addiction and I am tired of it and have no interest in seeing her lie day in and day out about her "sobriety". Kyle, IMO, may be different without Kim as backup and without her whining about Kim's nasty behavior.

With or without Kim, Kyle is still nasty but if Kim were gone Kyle may have more motivation to class up her act.  Especially with her new, bigger money.  She probably knows that she'll never be accepted into the upper echelons of Bev Hills unless she cleans up her act.  I think the Richards sisters (and I'm most certainly including Kathy Hilton) are probably viewed with a smirk by the cream of Bev Hills society. 

[grittypearl]

According to Kim and Kyle, the reason Kim is on the show was so that she could make/have some "girlfriends"....or as you put it, "get out of bed"! LOL

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q2HKTcttf4   7:02 mark

Yeah, we know that's all working out so swimmingly. With Brandi and Kim being "girl's girls". Vom!

[rho]

I don't think Kim makes as much money as folks would think. I don't think that she makes as much as Brandi does, which is less than $200K a year. I have never gotten the impression that this is about the money for her. I think it was about giving her something to get out of bed for. I do think that if Bravo asks her back, she will come back. I am just hoping that they do not. 

 

I think those were Kyle's intentions to get her on the show. She wanted to stop providing for Kim financially. I don't even know if Kim really wants to be on the show. I think she's just going with what Kyle says. There's bound to be a whole lot going on behind closed doors that we don't even know about. I think at this point Kim just does whatever she wants and occasionally she does what she's told to do.

[msblossom]

According to Kim and Kyle, the reason Kim is on the show was so that she could make/have some "girlfriends"....or as you put it, "get out of bed"! LOL

 

   7:02 mark

ThanksWireWrap. Seeing that clip makes me nostalgic for the old days, old cast, the best season, and no Brandi. That said, I wouldn't want the old cast to return. It worked for that season, and I'm of the opinion that you can never really go back and try to recreate something that worked at one time bc people change, life changes and it ends up feeling forced and doesn't meet expectations.

Looking forward to a new episode!

[Vanderfabulous]

Love this.  I agree!  Why anyone has any time to spend on Kyle if they've seen the show at all is beyond me.  I don't like how the new women sometimes pretend they never saw the show.  We hear it's so popular in Hollywood, all those guests on WWHL (a lot of them, anyway) say they watch it -- so someone like Eileen comes on the show and is so clueless? That's just stupid.  But to come on the show and support Kyle when you must have watched all the shit she's pulled over and over in the past seasons?  I just do not get it.  She's awful.

 

Ha ha … a friend had lunch at Villa Blanca a couple of years ago and Kyle was there with some friends.  My friend watches the show, loves LisaV, so she recognized Kyle.  My friend went to the restroom at one point and was primping in front of the mirror before leaving when Kyle came in.  She says Kyle looked at her with a look that suggested "you know me, right? you want to compliment me or get my autograph?" … my friend didn't acknowledge the look and left quickly.  

 

I'm such a celebrity fan, so giddy, but have to admit -- I'd walk out, too.  There's something about her that feels deep down rotten to me.  As I've stated, I think she needs serious therapy, but even with that, she's just got ethics I question.

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Actually I wasn't primping.  I was taking photos of the bathroom. lolol  But as for the rest of the story?  Left hand on the Bible and right hand pointing upward: that is precisely what happened.  I still can't help but believe that Kyle followed me in there, expecting me to gush and curtsey and whatever.  What Kyle failed to anticipate is that some of us have no desire to break that fourth wall.  My friend and I were at Villa Blanca for the dining experience.  The meal was excellent, btw.  As was the house pinot.  The service was exemplary.  But Kyle's attempt to insert herself into our experience?  Completely unwanted.

 

It was interesting to note that, as my friend and I were putting on our coats to leave, Kyle exited the bathroom and marched past our table as if we weren't even there.  The look on her face:  hard and just a little bit pissed.  I mean, how needy can someone be for acknowledgement?  And what does it say about that little famewhore that she is, that Kyle followed someone into a bathroom to get attention?!

[BluishGreen]

I've never liked Kyle but I'd be down for this.  Now that she and Mo are rolling in the dough, I'd like to see how conspicuous their consumption gets, if at all.  If Kim was gone, this tedious, never ending drama of theirs would go, too.

 

With or without Kim, Kyle is still nasty but if Kim were gone Kyle may have more motivation to class up her act.  Especially with her new, bigger money.  She probably knows that she'll never be accepted into the upper echelons of Bev Hills unless she cleans up her act.  I think the Richards sisters (and I'm most certainly including Kathy Hilton) are probably viewed with a smirk by the cream of Bev Hills society. 

 

I have to say, if any of these broads are ever going to be part of the "upper echelons" of Bev Hills society, it won't be because of what happens, or doesn't happen, on this show.  Just being on this show may well be enough all by itself to keep them off that list, permanently.  I imagine the real, honest to God "upper echelon" of Bev Hills would see these ladies as circus people.  So, if Bev Hills works like the rest of the world, people who constitute the "upper echelon" are themselves extraordinary in some way-- by birth, by personal accomplishment, by good works, by being in a position of power,  by real success, by real money. None of them has that.  The only ones who come close were maybe Joyce, maybe Yolanda.  But the rest of them?   Nahhh.

Edited February 24, 2015 by BluishGreen

[breezy424]

I thought that Kim stills gets alimony from second husband, Greg Davis.  She never married again after they divorced.

[talula]

I thought that Kim stills gets alimony from second husband, Greg Davis.  She never married again after they divorced.

I found this:

 

Where Does Kim Richards Get Her Money?

Wetpaint

November 19, 2012 at 02:04PM EST by Ryan Gajewski

 

 

-excerpt

These days, Kim gets a fair amount of money thanks to an early ‘90s divorce settlement from ex-husband Gregg Davis, whose oil-tycoon father was the inspiration for the show Dynasty. According to an entry in House of Hilton, a book written by Kim’s sister Kathy Hilton, Kim receives $23,000 a month for the rest of her life or until she remarries. Not too shabby.

 

Plus, since joining the cast of Real Housewives, Kim makes an annual salary of $100K, according to Celebrity Net Worth. And she has been rumored to receive some type of “allowance” from Kyle Richards’ husband, Mauricio, although we’re guessing that has stopped, now that Kim has her Real Housewives salary.

 

All in all, Kim has a reported net worth of a million dollars. That’s enough money to ensure that she doesn’t need to star in a movie about a murderous car ever again.

 

http://www.wetpaint.com/real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/articles/where-does-kim-richards-get-her-money

Edited February 24, 2015 by RealityTVSmack1

[talula]

http://starcasm.net/archives/83241

 

 

-excerpt

As for where Kim gets her money to pay for rent/mortgage/college, and every day living expenses, according to the Hilton-empire insider book House of Hilton (Kim and Kyle’s sister is Kathy Hilton), she gets a pretty good chunk of monthly child support from her ex-husband Gregg Davis, an oil heir. According to the book , “she is said to have gotten a settlement and child support from the Davises ranging from $20,000 a month that continues until the year 2009, and $23,000 a month for life, or until she remarries.”

[Rhetorica]

Snip...

According to an entry in House of Hilton, a book written by Kim’s sister Kathy Hilton...

quote]

Kathy Hilton wrote that book?

[rho]

The Davis family fortune is constantly changing hands. The kids keep suing each other so there's a good chance that Kim's settlement has been significantly reduced, especially when she started making her own money on RHOBH. I wouldn't trust those numbers, They're 20+ years old.

[AnnA]

Boo Hoo!

Even if Kim's alimony was cut in half, she'd still be collecting $11,500 a month or $138,000 a year and an "allowance" from Mauricio and Kyle. Ugh! She makes me sick.

Edited February 24, 2015 by AnnA

[rho]

That's my point. There's no way she was collecting 20K/month and still mooching off her sister. How much does it really cost to sleep all day?

[talula]

Snip...

According to an entry in House of Hilton, a book written by Kim’s sister Kathy Hilton...

quote]

Kathy Hilton wrote that book?

That's what the article said (the link to the Wetpaint article is there) though I thought someone else wrote it also.

 

Just looked it up figures the Wetpaint rag had it wrong...House of Hilton was written by Jerry Oppenheimer.

 

Hahaha...read the description of the book...

http://www.randomhouse.com/book/124689/house-of-hilton-by-jerry-oppenheimer

Edited February 24, 2015 by RealityTVSmack1

[motorcitymom65]

That's my point. There's no way she was collecting 20K/month and still mooching off her sister. How much does it really cost to sleep all day?

The story behind Kim's money is fascinating. I never believed the $20K/month deal, since Kim kept moving in S1 and S2. Granted, that may have not had anything to do with what she could afford and been about other issues, but it is still strange.

 

I think that Kim went through a lot of money back when she was really using. Depending on your drug of choice, you can go through a lot of money really quickly. I think this is what she did, and I think she did it for years. I think that tasks like paying the rent, the utilities, the car payment, etc., fell by the wayside and folks like Kyle and Mauricio stepped in to make sure the lights stayed on.  I don't think it was ever about her not having enough money, but about her not using the money she had on the right things. If Kim isn't abusing her substance to the point she was before, whatever money she gets from alimony, residuals, speaking fees, and this show should be more than enough. From what we have seen, Kim doesn't live a really spectacular life. I have never seen her act like money was all that important to her at all. She seems to be fine with renting a house and living fairly low-key.

 

It is interesting that K&M are the ones who seem to have helped her the most financially (supposedly).  I wonder if the Hilton's have also helped out to a large extent? One thing for sure, it shouldn't be a burden on K&M anymore. When they started the show most reports had them worth about $30MM, and now some have them listed at being worth $100MM.  That is a huge change in just a few years.  Apparently leaving the Hilton's and going off on his own was more than the right decision. 

[Rhetorica]

That's what the article said (the link to the Wetpaint article is there) though I thought someone else wrote it also.

Just looked it up figures the Wetpaint rag had it wrong...House of Hilton was written by Jerry Oppenheimer.

Hahaha...read the description of the book...

http://www.randomhouse.com/book/124689/house-of-hilton-by-jerry-oppenheimer

Thanks. I've requested the e-book twice now from my library. I don't think they're going to buy it. Oh well...

[rehoboth]

Does Kim really have a choice whether or not to return to RHOBH next season?  If she doesn't, what would be her source of income?  Mauricio and Kyle?  I think she'll stay as long as Bravo will have her.  If Kim does not return to RHOBH, Kyle will have to give up her victim/martyr role or find someone else to blame for all her suffering.  Can you tell that I'm not a fan of the Richards sisters?  It might just be time for a reboot of the show and replace these two with new HWs.

Sorry, I did not see the posts above which have Kim's alimony payments laid out.

 

I believe that Kim gets a substantial alimony payment from husband #2 for life or until she remarries which is why she never married the father of her youngest.  I don't remember the sum but the number $25,000 per month sticks in my mind  She's losing her last child support payment but maybe she could, I don't know, live within her means from the alimony.  RHOBH is not keeping the wolf from the door for Kim. 

 

I think that Mo and Kyle have been there for her when she mismanaged her money.  She has always made good money from her exes.  Since Mo is in real estate, what popped into my head when Kyle made the statement that MO was like a husband to Kim was that he took care of Kim's bills and houses when needed.  Such as "Kim, you can't ignore these letters from the IRS" or "Kim, you need to take care of your cracked sidewalk before someone takes a tumble and sues you.  I know someone who can come out and take care of it."

Edited February 24, 2015 by rehoboth

[tulip555]

Snip...

According to an entry in House of Hilton, a book written by Kim’s sister Kathy Hilton...

Kathy Hilton wrote that book?

[zoeysmom]

For a very long time I tried to get independent confirmation of Kim and her life time of alimony.  There is none.  Kim and Davis were married a very short period of time.  At the time her husband worked for his father-he had not established any independent wealth.  It was very clear from the first episode with the first of many a Kim and Kyle argument, Kim really needed RH.  I believe the Kim needing friends was pretty much Kim needing the money.  Her children by Davis had reached majority and were in fact living in Texas, Kimberly lived with John, and a tearful Kim was talking about not having a home, a husband or her children.

 

The Kim we saw this episode is the one I keep hearing about-defensive, a little mean, very self-centered and has decided she does not like Eileen.  Maybe Eileen represents something Kim resents-Eileen is certainly has consistently been working as an actress the last 30 years, has her child and step children, a husband whose family connections to show business are deep seated.  I believe Kim feels she is above  Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin.  It always sounds to me as if Kim thinks she is the biggest child actress ever.  I do think much of her resentment comes from the fact she was never really able to transition from child star to adult star whether it was due to her disinterest or lack of roles, she just doesn't seem to appreciate the other actors that have been doing for the past 30-40 years.

 

So this episode I believe is the precursor for Kim's underlying resentment to fester and come to a boil. 

Edited February 24, 2015 by zoeysmom

[Lisin]

Guys, if you continue to go completely off topic in here we're going to have to lock the thread. This thread is for episode discussion only. There are a million other threads to take book/Kim/Salary/Kyle/Addiction/Houses etc. to. This will be the last note asking you to stay on topic. 

[WireWrap]

I was looking at photos of Lisa V's BD party on Bravo's home page, http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/photos/photos-from-lisa-vanderpumps-surprise-party/item/10636771 , and thought there was so much fun that the producers left on the cutting room floor. I wish they had shown more of the laughter we see in the photos than any of the fighting/snipping we see It even looks like there is some forgiveness between Ken/Yolanda as she is seen holding Giggy!  That party looked like so much more fun than what we have seen most of the season so far.

[motorcitymom65]

I was looking at photos of Lisa V's BD party on Bravo's home page, http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/photos/photos-from-lisa-vanderpumps-surprise-party/item/10636771 , and thought there was so much fun that the producers left on the cutting room floor. I wish they had shown more of the laughter we see in the photos than any of the fighting/snipping we see It even looks like there is some forgiveness between Ken/Yolanda as she is seen holding Giggy!  That party looked like so much more fun than what we have seen most of the season so far.

Thanks for posting these.  The pictures are everything! I would have been happy as can be to just have an hour watching the different groups interact, listening to the various conversations.  More of this kind of thing please!

[WireWrap]

Thanks for posting these.  The pictures are everything! I would have been happy as can be to just have an hour watching the different groups interact, listening to the various conversations.  More of this kind of thing please!

I realize that the drama is the main driving force with these shows but IMO, the joint laughter is the glue that binds it all together and without that "glue" it would all fall apart.

Edited February 24, 2015 by WireWrap

[becauseIsaidso]

 

I don't remember the sum but the number $25,000 per month sticks in my mind

I, too, recall reading somewhere (TWOP, or here, or IDK where else) that kim had a locked in alimony (not child-support) payment of about $23K/MONTH as long as she did NOT remarry....Seems to me that $276K annually could buy some sort of decent rental, if not be a pretty nice down payment on a forever home - even if it wasn't in fuckin' beverly hills!....so, YTF could kim need to continually expose herself as an out of control addict?  Seems to me she could enjoy a much more PRIVATE life - including PRIVATELY indulging in her drug of choice - in a less expensive location. Ergo, kim bitchards is nothing but a famewhore as well as a lying lier who lies about both to what and to what extent she is addicted. Not that I'm surprised - at all.

[quinn]

So Giggy is allowed at the Chateau Marmont?

[Umbelina]

Yes, and Brandi is in the group shots with all the women, having fun like the rest.  Bravo editing has a LOT to answer for.

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/photos/photos-from-lisa-vanderpumps-surprise-party/item/10636941

[WireWrap]

Yes, and Brandi is in the group shots with all the women, having fun like the rest.  Bravo editing has a LOT to answer for.

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/photos/photos-from-lisa-vanderpumps-surprise-party/item/10636941

I do not think they gave Brandi a bad edit at Lisa's party, not at all. In fact, I have read posts raking Lisa V over the coals for her toast and making Brandi sing even though both of them were laughing the entire time like they use to do before Brandi's betrayal. Where do you think Brandi got a bad edit at Lisa's BD party?

[Avaleigh]

Also, Brandi is the one who was basically saying that she didn't want to be around the menopausal mamas. She's putting distance out there with that comment like she wasn't having much fun and didn't really want to be there. 

[talula]

Thanks for posting these.  The pictures are everything! I would have been happy as can be to just have an hour watching the different groups interact, listening to the various conversations.  More of this kind of thing please!

During this episode Bravo only wished to show that Brandi was out of sorts and rejected by the other HW during Lisa's B-Day party.  When in actuality everyone was getting along and having a good time (except for Kyle & Brandi who may have not spoken). That's why everyone points up to editing over and over again. IMO, production has a story to tell and that's what we're getting "a story."

 

We see poor dejected Brandi a few times sitting all by herself at the table...you probably could have caught them all at different times by themselves. Then there was a picture of her with all the ladies singing...of course they wouldn't show that. They also appeared to have a good time especially with Kim...singing with Kim and LisaV hugging her.

 

A picture is worth a thousand words comes to mind.

Edited February 24, 2015 by RealityTVSmack1

[Avaleigh]

During this episode Bravo only wished to show that Brandi was out of sorts and rejected by the other HW during Lisa's B-Day party.

We did see Brandi out of sorts though. She was annoyed that she'd been told to behave, she was irritated when Lisa snatched the flower out of her head, she makes it seem like she isn't amused by the menopausal mamas, etc. It wasn't just editing that put out the vibe that Brandi was feeling like the odd man out. 

[WireWrap]

During this episode Bravo only wished to show that Brandi was out of sorts and rejected by the other HW during Lisa's B-Day party.  When in actuality everyone was getting along and having a good time (except for Kyle & Brandi who may have not spoken). That's why everyone points up to editing over and over again. IMO, production has a story to tell and that's what we're getting "a story."

 

We see poor dejected Brandi a few times sitting all by herself at the table...you probably could have caught them all at different times by themselves. Then there was a picture of her with all the ladies singing...of course they wouldn't show that. They also appeared to have a good time especially with Kim...singing with Kim and LisaV hugging her.

If the producers/Bravo were that intent on giving Brandi a "bad" edit, I doubt they would have posted these photos on their web site! LOL

[talula]

I realize that the drama is the main driving force with these shows but IMO, the joint laughter is the glue that binds it all together and without that "glue" it would all fall apart.

I agree with you 100%  the way they edit these shows we just don't get enough "glue" to show the laughter...including each and every cast member sometimes.

If the producers/Bravo were that intent on giving Brandi a "bad" edit, I doubt they would have posted these photos on their web site! LOL

I so agree, the photos show everyone having a great time. 

[motorcitymom65]

Yes, and Brandi is in the group shots with all the women, having fun like the rest.  Bravo editing has a LOT to answer for.

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/photos/photos-from-lisa-vanderpumps-surprise-party/item/10636941

I don't think this is a place to blame editing. I blame editing when they show specific footage in a way that tells a very different story from what actually went on. Not in the cases where they just leave some stuff out due to time constraints. For example I blame editing for helping to make it look like Adrienne was suing Brandi for an entire season when they knew that no such lawsuit existed. 

 

In this case we all saw from the episode that the party was a blast and the pictures confirm that. True, we didn't see Brandi up with all the girls, but we saw other times when Brandi seemed to be having fun and interacting with the ladies. Playing with Lisar trying to sneak away with the flowers, laughing with Lisa V when she was singing. If you watch closely you can see several times when Brandi is laughing and seems to be having a good time. At other times she seems pissy, usually when the focus is on someone else.  More than anything else in this episode, I got the impression Brandi was feeling left out because of her own words. Talking about the menopause mommies and all, her hateful comment about Mohamed. The pictures didn't reveal anything that I didn't assume happened. It looked like fun and I just wish they would have shown us more of that. 

[AnnA]

A picture is worth a thousand words comes to mind.

 

That's so true.  There's another photo on the Bravo website that speaks volumes.

 

If Kyle is so concerned about her sister, why isn't she happy to see her having a good time?

 

[Umbelina]

Seriously?

 

You don't see that editing chose to show the moment when Brandi was sitting alone looking pensive?  You believe that none of the other women took a break and sat down for a moment, and they could have shown those if it was "attack Lipsa year?" 

 

They could have shown Brandi up and laughing and partying with all of them, but they didn't because that's not their storyline this year.  As far as being on the website, I'd be shocked if even 10% of the people who watch this show would see those.

[talula]

That's so true.  There's another photo on the Bravo website that speaks volumes.

 

If Kyle is so concerned about her sister, why isn't she happy to see her having a good time?

 

OMG AnnA!  Great minds think alike...I was just looking at this one.  It certainly was interesting.  There's LisaV giving Kim a great big hug...both seem happy here...but Kyle...not as much. Though she has a slight smile if I look closely.

 

Look at Kyle's fingers didn't LisaV give Kyle her old ring when she received the new pink gem from Ken?

Edited February 24, 2015 by RealityTVSmack1

[talula]

Seriously?

 

You don't see that editing chose to show the moment when Brandi was sitting alone looking pensive?  You believe that none of the other women took a break and sat down for a moment, and they could have shown those if it was "attack Lipsa year?" 

 

They could have shown Brandi up and laughing and partying with all of them, but they didn't because that's not their storyline this year.  As far as being on the website, I'd be shocked if even 10% of the people who watch this show would see those.

Your so right showing LisaV laughing wouldn't have fit in with last seasons theme...crying was called for. So this year it's all the housewives against Brandi.  When we know it's BS.  She's was OK with Yolanda, Kim, LisaV and LisaR.  That leaves out Kyle...not sure about Eileen. 

 

Ditto Bravo doesn't care who looks at the few happy B-Day photos they put on their site. Most of their millions of viewers just aren't that into the show.

[talula]

I don't think this is a place to blame editing. I blame editing when they show specific footage in a way that tells a very different story from what actually went on. Not in the cases where they just leave some stuff out due to time constraints. For example I blame editing for helping to make it look like Adrienne was suing Brandi for an entire season when they knew that no such lawsuit existed. 

 

In this case we all saw from the episode that the party was a blast and the pictures confirm that. True, we didn't see Brandi up with all the girls, but we saw other times when Brandi seemed to be having fun and interacting with the ladies. Playing with Lisar trying to sneak away with the flowers, laughing with Lisa V when she was singing. If you watch closely you can see several times when Brandi is laughing and seems to be having a good time. At other times she seems pissy, usually when the focus is on someone else.  More than anything else in this episode, I got the impression Brandi was feeling left out because of her own words. Talking about the menopause mommies and all, her hateful comment about Mohamed. The pictures didn't reveal anything that I didn't assume happened. It looked like fun and I just wish they would have shown us more of that. 

Looks like Brandi was up singing with the menopause mommies...we never saw that?

 

Edited February 24, 2015 by RealityTVSmack1