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On 12/20/2024 at 1:28 PM, Ele said:

My Christmas Guide is airing on HMM. I Other than the unbelievably dumb boyfriend, I remember liking it when it originally aired.

He's why I couldn't abide the movie. They made him such an asshole from jump that I ended up disliking her because, what the fuck are you doing with this putz anyway. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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I haven't seen this one yet but it looks WONDERFUL........

A Season for Miracles is a Hallmark movie from 1999. I happened to see it on this morning but not from the beginning so I recorded it when it is airing again. Laura Dern is in prison in Suffolk County  and Patty Duke is a waitress who is actually an angel. How can this movies not be wonderful?

I can't wait to sit down and watch this movie. No cooking or house cleaning will be involved when this movie will be on for my first viewing.

A Season For Miracles aires again on January 2 at 2:00 am on HMHD channel.

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1 hour ago, coffeebean said:

I haven't seen this one yet but it looks WONDERFUL........

A Season for Miracles is a Hallmark movie from 1999. I happened to see it on this morning but not from the beginning so I recorded it when it is airing again. Laura Dern is in prison in Suffolk County  and Patty Duke is a waitress who is actually an angel. How can this movies not be wonderful?

I can't wait to sit down and watch this movie. No cooking or house cleaning will be involved when this movie will be on for my first viewing.

A Season For Miracles aires again on January 2 at 2:00 am on HMHD channel.

My absolute number one Christmas movie.  Keep a hanky handy.

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3 hours ago, coffeebean said:

I haven't seen this one yet but it looks WONDERFUL........

A Season for Miracles is a Hallmark movie from 1999. I happened to see it on this morning but not from the beginning so I recorded it when it is airing again. Laura Dern is in prison in Suffolk County  and Patty Duke is a waitress who is actually an angel. How can this movies not be wonderful?

I can't wait to sit down and watch this movie. No cooking or house cleaning will be involved when this movie will be on for my first viewing.

A Season For Miracles aires again on January 2 at 2:00 am on HMHD channel.

This was an old school Hallmark Hall of Fame production.  Those were the days . . .

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Watched Holiday Hotline  from 2023  earlier, saw it last year too. I don't care what everybody says about it, I really enjoyed it again. The only part I didn't, ( I wish Hallmark would quit using this in their writing) the usual ridiculous blowup misunderstanding, I thought I could trust you yada,yada,yada bs in the last 10 minutes of the movie.  Loved the scenes where the two leads are on their phones talking to each other placed in the same room,lol. 

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12 hours ago, One4Sorrow2TooBad said:

Watched Holiday Hotline  from 2023  earlier, saw it last year too. I don't care what everybody says about it, I really enjoyed it again. The only part I didn't, ( I wish Hallmark would quit using this in their writing) the usual ridiculous blowup misunderstanding, I thought I could trust you yada,yada,yada bs in the last 10 minutes of the movie.  Loved the scenes where the two leads are on their phones talking to each other placed in the same room,lol. 

I love Holiday Hotline. the accents situation was so funny. But you’re right about that blowup. Julie Sherman Wolfe, are you listening!  She writes some of the good Chanukah films and this year she wrote one Chanukah and the Chiefs movie.  She kept the blowup small in Hanukah on the Rocks, but still could have lived without it. 
 

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Hallmark fans:  just learned that 11 year old Lacey Chabert appears as Baby June in the Bette Midler version of Gypsy!  Alongside Elizabeth Moss as young Louise. (Someone posted this important info on Instagram).  It’s available on Prime. 

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Not sure where this should go, but I’m just so sorry for one of my HM favorites Marc Blucas and his wife Ryan Haddon on the tragic death of her mother, Dayle.  Dayle died at Marc and Ryan’s home on 12/27 and Marc’s father, Walter, is in the hospital in critical condition.  There was a malfunction in the heating in the carriage house, emitting carbon monoxide which caused the death and extremely serious injury.  I remember Dayle very well from her modeling days.  Just so, so, so awful for everyone. I hope Walter recovers…

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Christmas with Holly is airing right now. I’m rewatching and it’s so sweet. Faris and Mumford have done two movies together. They should do more. 
 

Also, HMM is showing Christmas Wishes and Mistletoe Kisses this morning. Matthew Davis played his character well. Is this his only Hallmark Movie? He and Wagner had good chemistry. 
 

Hallmark’s first Winter Escape movie, Love of the Irish, airs this Saturday. Shenae Grimes and Moira Kelly are in it. The male lead has been in a movie before, but I don’t remember the name. 
 

 

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7 minutes ago, Ele said:

Christmas with Holly is airing right now. I’m rewatching and it’s so sweet. Faris and Mumford have done two movies together. They should do more. 

Yes, this was a sweet, lovely movie that I’ve rewatched multiple times. Anyone else think Faris looks like Tom Cruise?  Just me…?
 

Also, HMM is showing Christmas Wishes and Mistletoe Kisses this morning. Matthew Davis played his character well. Is this his only Hallmark Movie? He and Wagner had good chemistry. 

Is this the one where Jill’s character is an interior designer and gets the job to decorate millionaire Matt’s (aka The Vampire Diaries Alaric) house? Yeah, I liked this, but saw Ben Ayers’ character as a viable love interest for Jill’s character.  Movie should have developed both romantic interests and kept us guessing who she’d end up with.

 

 

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9 hours ago, norcalgal said:

Yeah, I liked this, but saw Ben Ayers’ character as a viable love interest for Jill’s character.

I remember this.  Isn't he a doctor or a teacher?  I recall thinking that I knew she was going to end up with the rich guy, but it wouldn't have been my choice!

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4 hours ago, bankerchick said:

I remember this.  Isn't he a doctor or a teacher?  I recall thinking that I knew she was going to end up with the rich guy, but it wouldn't have been my choice!

Yeah, he was a doctor.  I knew she’d end up with Richie Rich because the thumbnail photo for the movie gives away who ends up with the girl when there’s more than one possible love interest, but like I wrote, I wish the movie had developed both possible romances.

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17 hours ago, bankerchick said:

I remember this.  Isn't he a doctor or a teacher?  I recall thinking that I knew she was going to end up with the rich guy, but it wouldn't have been my choice!

norcalgal,  I don’t know who the actor was who played the doctor. Ben Ayers have been a better choice! 

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23 minutes ago, Ele said:

norcalgal,  I don’t know who the actor was who played the doctor. Ben Ayers have been a better choice! 

You're right, as it turns out.  It was Brandon Quinn, who is also handsome with dark, dark hair and beard stubble.  I would have been fine with either.

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On 1/1/2025 at 11:38 AM, Ele said:

Hallmark’s first Winter Escape movie, Love of the Irish, airs this Saturday. Shenae Grimes and Moira Kelly are in it. The male lead has been in a movie before, but I don’t remember the name. 
 

 

Stephen Hagan - He was in A Royal Christmas from 2014 with Lacey Chabert and Jane Seymour. I think that's the only other movie I've seen him in.

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I think Hallmark is going back to its regular programming this weekend - I saw something about Reba and The Golden Girls. These were and are classic, immensely popular shows. But I am not looking forward to them coming back at this point. They have been rerun and rerun and rerun and rerun for hours on end. For years, maybe over a decade for GG. 

Shockingly, I am a wee bit sorry to see the 24/7 movies end.  Maybe because I don't want to go back to these two particular shows. But surely there may be other sit-coms that the network could purchase and run for hours and hours and hours. Then maybe bring back the GG and Reba. It is not like these shows aren't available on other platforms. 

Unpopular opinion? 

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@Kemper, I always hate to see the Christmas movie season end, even though I start watching them in October and Christmas in July. 

I usually check out the non-holiday movies (there are some I really like - Wedding Every Weekend, Love Strikes Twice, etc.) but at this time of year, I mostly go back to watching true crime on ID and Oxygen. I'm just not drawn in by the sitcoms, When Calls the Heart or the mystery series.

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10 hours ago, Kemper said:

Unpopular opinion? 

I rather doubt it is unpopular.  I don't want Christmas in July and I don't watch starting in October; my start date is usually Thanksgiving.  And there are just a tiny number that I DVR to rewatch.  With that said, they are an innocuous background to have on when doing chores; you don't need to pay attention because all of the plots are the same but it fills a void.

Surely we are starting to age out of a large audience for 40 year old series like Murder She Wrote.  I am always amazed that PBS still carries Lawrence Welk - aren't the original fans all dead??

HGTV has some bland shows so that's my background noise the rest of the year.  No attention required.

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Hallmark should go back to making Fall themed movies (including Halloween/Thanksgiving ones) and start Christmas movies after Thanksgiving.

Love of the Irish

1. Ali Liebert was the director and she made a cameo at the beginning. I’ve always like her!

2. Good to see Moira Kelly. I liked her storyline. 
 

3. Grimes and Hagan had good chemistry. The way they met was through an over the top reaction, but at least there wasn’t stupid misunderstanding at the end. 
 

4. This movie had a lot going on with several storylines. The ending seemed rushed. I wouldn’t mind a sequel. I liked the mother/daughter relationship and Moira Kelly’s storyline.  I was trying to figure out how old Grimes’ character was supposed to be and how long she was a professional ballerina.

Overall, I think it was a solid start for the winter movies. 

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Ele, I entirely agree about Love of the Irish.  I remember saying at about 6 minutes to the hour that they still had an awful lot to resolve --  And as you say, the mother's adoption story was left very incomplete.  Maybe there was some exposition at the beginning that I missed (will check tonight on the rerun).  But, who was her biological father, does she have Irish family from him as well?  

But it was a good and rather unusual story.  I always enjoy some long, loving views of Ireland.  And look!  not a word about Christmas!  

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So a quick toe back into Christmas movie talk... My wife and I were yesterday years old when we realized 2022's A Cozy Christmas Inn (Jodie Sweetin, David O'Donnell) is a sequel of sorts to the 2014 Christmas Under Wraps (CCB, David O'Donnell). 

The 2022 "sequel" dissed CCB's character (the 2014 main love interest) hard, and we figured it was in part due to the news at the time of CCB's dumping of Hallmark.

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1 hour ago, Ele said:

Love of the Irish

1. Ali Liebert was the director and she made a cameo at the beginning. I’ve always like her!

2. Good to see Moira Kelly.

I feel sooooooo old!  Who here remembers Moira in the movie The Cutting Edge? I watched it when it first came out, and when I saw her in the first season of The West Wing, I said, hey - it’s her from the ice skating movie!  Toe-pick!  😜

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Love of the Irish was a bit of 'meh' for me. Ms. Grimes-Beech was not at all believeable as a ballet dancer. Poor editing  -- at the beginning having mom and daughter befriend the flower seller, buy the flowers, and then leave the pub without them. I counted at 4-5 changes of coats but at least mom and daughter had large suitcases. I also found the mom's adoption story incomplete. 

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1 hour ago, norcalgal said:

I feel sooooooo old!  Who here remembers Moira in the movie The Cutting Edge? I watched it when it first came out, and when I saw her in the first season of The West Wing, I said, hey - it’s her from the ice skating movie!  Toe-pick!  😜

Yes! I loved that movie. I have to say she looks good. 
 

FunnyFace, I think the mom’s storyline should have been the primary storyline. Grimes’ could have been secondary. Both needed to be developed better. 
I would have been happy with the mom finding her birth mother, her husband coming over from the US to meet her birth mother, and Fiona getting to know her too. I think Fiona’s love story could have been secondary. The movie could have ended with the family extending their stay a little longer or Fiona and her love interest just say they’ll make things work. 

50 minutes ago, FunnyFace said:

Love of the Irish was a bit of 'meh' for me. Ms. Grimes-Beech was not at all believeable as a ballet dancer. Poor editing  -- at the beginning having mom and daughter befriend the flower seller, buy the flowers, and then leave the pub without them. I counted at 4-5 changes of coats but at least mom and daughter had large suitcases. I also found the mom's adoption story incomplete. 

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Jan. 11: Polar Opposites has Rhiannon Fish. The male lead was in that cheap VDay movie a few years ago and his character was very obnoxious/unlikable. Not sure if he was in anything else until now.

 

Jan 18: My Argentine Heart I’m torn on. I like Julie Gonzalo a lot, and Argentina is such a different location for Hallmark, but I’m so tired of the reuniting with the ex-boyfriend storyline.

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9 hours ago, FunnyFace said:

Love of the Irish was a bit of 'meh' for me. Ms. Grimes-Beech was not at all believeable as a ballet dancer. Poor editing  -- at the beginning having mom and daughter befriend the flower seller, buy the flowers, and then leave the pub without them. I counted at 4-5 changes of coats but at least mom and daughter had large suitcases. I also found the mom's adoption story incomplete. 

The auditioning for the lead role in a major ballet was certainly inaccurate.  Those kinds of productions are put on by major dance companies who have plenty of contracted dancers in their ensemble who would be given the part.  Open auditions are not the way those roles are cast.

At one point, the daughter said that it was getting tougher to get jobs since she turned thirty.  Once again, traditional ballet is such that, if she hasn't joined a major company and danced in major roles, probably starting in her late teens; it isn't going to happen ever.  

It would've been more believable had she been a theater kid who trained in broadway style dancing, maybe with a little ballet training along the way, but not her primary focus.  This is especially true since she spoke of getting roles in TV commercials and such which would not usually be the case with someone trained in classical ballet.

I, too, thought the story of the birth mother and daughter reuniting after so many years was far more interesting.  When they got to Ireland and the daughter discovered grandma's identity practically the moment she stepped off the plane in a series of odd coincidences; I knew the storyline was going to be given short shrift.

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I admit, Shenae Grimes-Beech is one of the HM actresses that I can't abide for whatever reason. I've never liked her in any of the brief movies I've seen her in, so this new movie is a no-go for me right from jump. Completely superficial but I don't like her with bangs or short hair either. 

I almost wish they'd rebrand their HM Family channel to an 'all holiday movies, all the time' channel. I can't imagine all those Waltons episodes all the time make them any money. And regarding the GG and Reba episodes, there are tons of old sitcoms they could purchase to have a better rotation. They could even *gasp* buy shows like Living Single or the One Day at a Time reboot with the Alvarez family. There's tons of old sitcoms that maybe have shorter seasons but if they bought 4 or 5 of them, it would break up the monotony a little at least. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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48 minutes ago, Badsamaritan said:

I admit, Shenae Grimes-Beech is one of the HM actresses that I can't abide for whatever reason. I've never liked her in any of the brief movies I've seen her in, so this new movie is a no-go for me right from jump. Completely superficial but I don't like her with bangs or short hair either. 

I almost wish they'd rebrand their HM Family channel to an 'all holiday movies, all the time' channel. I can't imagine all those Waltons episodes all the time make them any money. And regarding the GG and Reba episodes, there are tons of old sitcoms they could purchase to have a better rotation. They could even *gasp* buy shows like Living Single or the One Day at a Time reboot with the Alvarez family. There's tons of old sitcoms that maybe have shorter seasons but if they bought 4 or 5 of them, it would break up the monotony a little at least. 🤷🏽‍♀️

What is your feeling about Frasier and Cheers?  I like having those.  Even GG and Reba, I tune in to any of them once in a while. 

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2 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

I admit, Shenae Grimes-Beech is one of the HM actresses that I can't abide for whatever reason. I've never liked her in any of the brief movies I've seen her in, so this new movie is a no-go for me right from jump. Completely superficial but I don't like her with bangs or short hair either. 

I almost wish they'd rebrand their HM Family channel to an 'all holiday movies, all the time' channel. I can't imagine all those Waltons episodes all the time make them any money. And regarding the GG and Reba episodes, there are tons of old sitcoms they could purchase to have a better rotation. They could even *gasp* buy shows like Living Single or the One Day at a Time reboot with the Alvarez family. There's tons of old sitcoms that maybe have shorter seasons but if they bought 4 or 5 of them, it would break up the monotony a little at least. 🤷🏽‍♀️

I don’t like the bangs either, but it goes with the “edgy” look she’s going for. 
 

I’d love for Hallmark to purchase shows no longer airing like some of the WB, UPN, CW shows of the past. 

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Today there was a maybe three-hour afternoon block of a show/series called Heartland that I have never heard of. It seems okay but not something that would interest me.  

I don't mind the Frasier reruns all that much - for some reason they haven't aged all that much (just my opinion). That still doesn't mean I want to watch them for hours straight. And yes on the actress with the bangs - I don't know why I don't like them; to the point that they are distracting. 

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56 minutes ago, Kemper said:

I don't mind the Frasier reruns all that much - for some reason they haven't aged all that much (just my opinion). 

The humor has aged well. 

But they are too cheap to get new stuff; after all "quantity, not quality" is their business model so they need money to crack out dozens of new, mediocre Christmas movies every season.

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5 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

What is your feeling about Frasier and Cheers?  I like having those.  Even GG and Reba, I tune in to any of them once in a while. 

I don't mind those but there are so many other options.....Newhart, Alice, Night Court, Murphy Brown, Family Ties, Designing Women, and Doogie Howser just to name a few prominent options. Then you have some lesser known ones like Evening Shade, Dharma and Greg, Kate & Allie, and Head of the Class. They wouldn't have to show 5 hours of Golden Girls and 4 hours of Reba if they just bought 3 or 4 more old shows. 

Same thing with HM Mystery channel showing Diagnosis Murder, Matlock, and Murder She Wrote over and over again. Good grief, THERE ARE OTHER TV SHOWS. 😒

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46 minutes ago, Orcinus orca said:

But they are too cheap to get new stuff

If you mean recent, then it's probably more expensive.  But Fraiser, Reba and Golden Girls still cost Hallmark a licensing fee. 

I'm guessing they don't change much because people rely on finding these comfort shows and they provide steady ratings. 

For the longest time, whenever the Christmas movies would start, one of the main complaints was not having Frasier reruns available for three months. 

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1 hour ago, Badsamaritan said:

I don't mind those but there are so many other options.....Newhart, Alice, Night Court, Murphy Brown, Family Ties, Designing Women, and Doogie Howser just to name a few prominent options. Then you have some lesser known ones like Evening Shade, Dharma and Greg, Kate & Allie, and Head of the Class. They wouldn't have to show 5 hours of Golden Girls and 4 hours of Reba if they just bought 3 or 4 more old shows. 

Same thing with HM Mystery channel showing Diagnosis Murder, Matlock, and Murder She Wrote over and over again. Good grief, THERE ARE OTHER TV SHOWS. 😒

All great options!  At least something from this decade, for heaven's sake.

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17 hours ago, Notabug said:

The auditioning for the lead role in a major ballet was certainly inaccurate.  Those kinds of productions are put on by major dance companies who have plenty of contracted dancers in their ensemble who would be given the part.  Open auditions are not the way those roles are cast.

At one point, the daughter said that it was getting tougher to get jobs since she turned thirty.  Once again, traditional ballet is such that, if she hasn't joined a major company and danced in major roles, probably starting in her late teens; it isn't going to happen ever.  

It would've been more believable had she been a theater kid who trained in broadway style dancing, maybe with a little ballet training along the way, but not her primary focus.  This is especially true since she spoke of getting roles in TV commercials and such which would not usually be the case with someone trained in classical ballet.

 

Totally agree with your points! The land of Hallmark gets it totally wrong when depicting what actually happens at a dance audition or even a performance. There was that dreadful Nutcracker Hallmark movie in which we're to believe that a dancer who has not performed (nor taken classes, I believe) in years was suddenly equipped to dance the role of the Sugar Plum Fairy.

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2 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

I don't mind those but there are so many other options.....Newhart, Alice, Night Court, Murphy Brown, Family Ties, Designing Women, and Doogie Howser just to name a few prominent options. Then you have some lesser known ones like Evening Shade, Dharma and Greg, Kate & Allie, and Head of the Class. They wouldn't have to show 5 hours of Golden Girls and 4 hours of Reba if they just bought 3 or 4 more old shows. 

Same thing with HM Mystery channel showing Diagnosis Murder, Matlock, and Murder She Wrote over and over again. Good grief, THERE ARE OTHER TV SHOWS. 😒

A lot of those shows are currently available on Apple TV, Prime, Catchy, maybe MeTV, and other channels and may not be available at this time.  But yes, there are probably some other shows Hallmark could acquire.  

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2 hours ago, Miss Anne Thrope said:

A lot of those shows are currently available on Apple TV, Prime, Catchy, maybe MeTV, and other channels and may not be available at this time.  But yes, there are probably some other shows Hallmark could acquire.  

That doesn't mean they can't acquire a license. You can watch The Golden Girls and I think Reba too on CMT, and license for NCIS and L&O seem to be given out to anyone who asks while also being available via streaming. But yeah, there are a fuck ton of additional choices, I feel like they're just lazy about their non-original programming. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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I'm old enough to remember when the 24-hour movie schedule meant interrupting their I Love Lucy reruns. Personally I'm always glad to see the reruns return. I get tired of the sameyness of the movies way sooner than I do my shows, but I know it's the opposite for other people. I guess it's just one of things, like cilantro.

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I do watch other stuff; usually not Lifetime, though. 😎 I used to watch those GG reruns (originally watched with my mom during the original run); never watched Reba when it was on originally.  Never watched much Hallmark or the movies until about 5 years ago. They are not all that well written, sometimes not well acted or realistic. But they can fill a void. And they are cheery.  Didn't the network used to have an afternoon talk show?

 

 

 

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Lol,  5 years ago, that sounds like when I started watching the Hallmark Christmas  movies and then I figured out Lifetime shows Christmas movies also.  I pass on most of the other shows on Lifetime. I agree , too much of GG or Reba ,(both fine shows) just gets old IMO.

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I haven't seen this posted here but Lisa Hamilton Daly is out at Hallmark as EVP of Programming.  They've "eliminated" her position but I have to think the age discrimination lawsuit likely played a role in that decision.

https://variety.com/2025/biz/news/hallmark-lisa-hamilton-daly-lawsuit-age-discrimination-1236267450/

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On 1/5/2025 at 10:53 AM, Ele said:

Hallmark should go back to making Fall themed movies (including Halloween/Thanksgiving ones) and start Christmas movies after Thanksgiving.

Love of the Irish

1. Ali Liebert was the director and she made a cameo at the beginning. I’ve always like her!

2. Good to see Moira Kelly. I liked her storyline. 
 

3. Grimes and Hagan had good chemistry. The way they met was through an over the top reaction, but at least there wasn’t stupid misunderstanding at the end. 
 

4. This movie had a lot going on with several storylines. The ending seemed rushed. I wouldn’t mind a sequel. I liked the mother/daughter relationship and Moira Kelly’s storyline.  I was trying to figure out how old Grimes’ character was supposed to be and how long she was a professional ballerina.

Overall, I think it was a solid start for the winter movies. 

Noticed there's a review of Love Of The Irish over on Blu-ray.com . Would be nice to see it on Blu-ray. 

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