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[Wayward Son]

Nepotism at its finest folks!

 

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/supernatural-season-13-danneel-ackles-casting-exclusive-1202627622/amp/

[catrox14]

14 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

Nepotism at its finest folks!

 

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/supernatural-season-13-danneel-ackles-casting-exclusive-1202627622/amp/

Wow. I'm not sure we can 100% say it's nepotism given Danneel is an actress and was on One Tree Hill on the CW for a while but I'm sure being Jensen's wife doesn't hurt.

I'm surprised it's for an extended arc. I figured if she ever got on the show it would be a 1 shot deal. So this is interesting from a family logistics standpoint. Like are they going to move the family up to Vancouver? Does this portend some time off for Dean so Jensen can be at home with the kids?

Sorry to any Danneel fans but I've never been impressed with her acting so we'll see.

Fandom is gonna have a fit in both directions on this one.

Hmmmmm

[gonzosgirrl]

Ha. Finally Jensen one-ups Jared for a change :)

I hope she's a villain!!

24 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

Nepotism at its finest folks!

 

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/supernatural-season-13-danneel-ackles-casting-exclusive-1202627622/amp/

At least one person is happy about it ;)

Or maybe not a villain?

[auntvi]

4 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Ha. Finally Jensen one-ups Jared for a change :)

What??

[Wayward Son]

4 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

Wow. I'm not sure we can 100% say it's nepotism given Danneel is an actress and was on One Tree Hill on the CW for a while but I'm sure being Jensen's wife doesn't hurt.

I'm surprised it's for an extended arc. I figured if she ever got on the show it would be a 1 shot deal. So this is interesting from a family logistics standpoint. Like are they going to move the family up to Vancouver? Does this portend some time off for Dean so Jensen can be at home with the kids?

Sorry to any Danneel fans but I've never been impressed with her acting so we'll see.

Fandom is gonna have a fit in both directions on this one.

Hmmmmm

Sorry, but no one will convince me that this wasn’t some form of nepotism. 

2 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Ha. Finally Jensen one-ups Jared for a change :)

I hope she's a villain!!

At least one person is happy about it ;)

Good for Misha! But I’m not happy either way. I hate nepotism in general and I don’t rate her as an actress. She was bleh in the little I’ve seen of her. I’m sure she’s a lovely woman, but since I don’t know her personally I don’t particualrly care about that when it comes to casting. 

[gonzosgirrl]

1 minute ago, auntvi said:

What??

It was a joke.

 

This is pretty cool though. Psychic or just patient? (note the dates of the tweets)

 

1 minute ago, Wayward Son said:

Sorry, but no one will convince me that this wasn’t some form of nepotism. 

 

Don't care if it was or not. She deserves a job as much as any other actor or actress. I've heard the question asked time and again at cons, so there has certainly been interest in her appearing. I think it's awesome.

Edited December 1, 2017 by gonzosgirrl

[catrox14]

3 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

Sorry, but no one will convince me that this wasn’t some form of nepotism. 

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Wow. I'm not sure we can 100% say it's nepotism given Danneel is an actress and was on One Tree Hill on the CW for a while but I'm sure being Jensen's wife doesn't hurt.

Quoting myself. I literally said I'm sure being Jensen's wife didn't hurt. I don't know why you think I'm saying it wasn't nepotism. I'm saying it's not 100% necessarily ONLY nepotism in play LOL

[Wayward Son]

4 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

It was a joke.

 

This is pretty cool though. Psychic or just patient? (note the dates of the tweets)

 

Don't care if it was or not. She deserves a job as much as any other actor or actress. I've heard the question asked time and again at cons, so there has certainly been interest in her appearing. I think it's awesome.

And I’m just saying she doesn’t deserve the job more than a more talented actress (if they even bothered holding open auditions in the first place) just because she happens to be married to a lead. Agree to disagree. 

[catrox14]

4 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

It was a joke.

 

This is pretty cool though. Psychic or just patient? (note the dates of the tweets)

 

Or something they knew back in 2012 would happen in 5 years if the show ran that long.

Hmmm

It's weird that her character's name is Sister Jo.

[gonzosgirrl]

1 minute ago, catrox14 said:

Quoting myself. I literally said I'm sure being Jensen's wife didn't hurt. I don't know why you think I'm saying it wasn't nepotism. I'm saying it's not 100% necessarily ONLY nepotism in play LOL

And nepotism plays a part in every business, entertainment probably more than most. At least she is an established actress - not like they pulled her out from behind a desk and put her on camera.

[Wayward Son]

Just now, catrox14 said:

It's weird that her character's name is Sister Jo.

Supports my nepotism theory imo. Her and Jensen probably always joked that she’d go on the show if it made it to s13 and now it has they made it happen. 

[gonzosgirrl]

Just now, Wayward Son said:

And I’m just saying she doesn’t deserve the job more than a more talented actress (if they even bothered holding open auditions in the first place) just because she happens to be married to a lead. Agree to disagree. 

LOL have you seen some of the actors/actresses that have had recurring roles on this show? Danneel has as much or more talent than any of them. Being Jensen's wife also shouldn't preclude her from a role. Reverse nepotism sucks, too. :)

[Jonesy]

Just now, Wayward Son said:

And I’m just saying she doesn’t deserve the job more than a more talented actress (if they even bothered holding open auditions in the first place) just because she happens to be married to a lead. Agree to disagree. 

She's a solid enough actress and nothing wrong with a wife being in the show.  Good for her and Jensen!  I do hope some of the extreme nuts in this fandom layoff her(Not referring to you!)

[Boopsahoy]

I'm not sure how I feel about this....I'm feeling a little uncomfortable.....Is it going to be a one off character or a recurring role?

[Jonesy]

1 minute ago, Wayward Son said:

Supports my nepotism theory imo. Her and Jensen probably always joked that she’d go on the show if it made it to s13 and now it has they made it happen. 

I doubt anyone of us can know what they joke about.

Just now, Boopsahoy said:

I'm not sure how I feel about this....I'm feeling a little uncomfortable.....Is it going to be a one off character or a recurring role?

Recurring in season 13.

[Wayward Son]

Just now, Jakes said:

She's a solid enough actress and nothing wrong with a wife being in the show.  Good for her and Jensen!  I do hope some of the extreme nuts in this fandom layoff her(Not referring to you!)

I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but if you’re referring to J2 tinhatters who hate on the wives I can assure you I’m not one of those. I don’t ship Wincest or J2. Not saying you’re accusing me of that, but I just wanted that to be 100% clear. 

[catrox14]

Just now, Wayward Son said:

And I’m just saying she doesn’t deserve the job more than a more talented actress (if they even bothered holding open auditions in the first place) just because she happens to be married to a lead. Agree to disagree. 

We don't know that she didn't audition.  We don't know anything about how this happened. Maybe the writers wrote a part specifically for Danneel that had nothing to do with Jensen's approval. He has always said at least publicly that if Danneel was ever on the show it's totally up to her and the producers. I could see it being 100% based on nepotism if she had never acted a day in her life but she is a veteran actor with a CW pedigree.

[gonzosgirrl]

I'm honestly shocked that people would take issue with this. She's an actress for Chuck's sake. Why shouldn't she be on the show? And whether she auditioned or not isn't really an issue - lots of roles are cast without auditions when the actor is a known quantity.

[Jonesy]

1 minute ago, Wayward Son said:

I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but if you’re referring to J2 tinhatters who hate on the wives I can assure you I’m not one of those. I don’t ship Wincest or J2. Not saying you’re accusing me of that, but I just wanted that to be 100% clear. 

No wasn't saying that about you--but we all know they exist in our sometimes crazy fandom.

[catrox14]

6 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

Supports my nepotism theory imo. Her and Jensen probably always joked that she’d go on the show if it made it to s13 and now it has they made it happen. 

 

8 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

Or something they knew back in 2012 would happen in 5 years if the show ran that long.

Hmmm

It's weird that her character's name is Sister Jo.

Quoting myself again.

I was joking mostly about the 5 years ago thing. What does the character's name have to do with any of this?

[Wayward Son]

1 minute ago, catrox14 said:

We don't know that she didn't audition.  We don't know anything about how this happened. Maybe the writers wrote a part specifically for Danneel that had nothing to do with Jensen's approval. He has always said at least publicly that if Danneel was ever on the show it's totally up to her and the producers. I could see it being 100% based on nepotism if she had never acted a day in her life but she is a veteran actor with a CW pedigree.

I find that highly unlikely and the fact she said that she’d be in s13 back in 2012 further supports it IMO. I’m not saying she was super serious back then (they couldn’t have known the show would last this long for a start), but at the very least it was probably something they joked about and then made happen. 

 

Anyway, how often do fans refer to Eugenie Lemming being there as a result of nepotism? If they can complain about that then I’m entitled to dislike that Danneel has most likely been cast based on it. 

[catrox14]

2 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I'm honestly shocked that people would take issue with this. She's an actress for Chuck's sake. Why shouldn't she be on the show? And whether she auditioned or not isn't really an issue - lots of roles are cast without auditions when the actor is a known quantity.

I guess I'm not looking forward to all the wank that Jensen will now get because somehow he got his wife a job over every other capable actress just because she is his wife which we don't know to be the case at all.

I mean I don't think she's awful just not that great. But maybe she'll be great in this role. It would be funny if she and Jensen never share any scenes.

Maybe this is something the show has wanted to do for a while but she never would do it. Who knows.

[catrox14]

5 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

Anyway, how often do fans refer to Eugenie Lemming being there as a result of nepotism? If they can complain about that then I’m entitled to dislike that Danneel has most likely been cast based on it. 

Well that's because Buck Lemming suck as writers IMO. I wouldn't complain about their continued existence if they were decent writers who didn't fuck up canon. And there is also a big difference between being married to the EP and being married to the lead actor. No matter what J2 are not producers. They don't run the show. They don't write the show. And it's not like Jensen cast his wife. He only casts actors in episodes he directs which is why he cast is father (an actor himself) and gave his sister an extra scene.

I believe him when he says whatever she is doing WRT to the show is her choice. Did they all talk about it? OBVIOUSLY. But you make it seem like Jensen went to Dabb and Singer and said "Hire my wife. Give her a part no matter what. Don't audition anyone else."

But maybe he went to them and DEMANDED they write a specific part for her and only her. Maybe he negotiated those terms in his contract. Hire my wife for a few episodes or I don't re-sign in S13.  (I'm not actually serious about that LOL).

[Wayward Son]

10 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

Well that's because Buck Lemming suck as writers IMO. I wouldn't complain about their continued existence if they were decent writers who didn't fuck up canon. And there is also a big difference between being married to the EP and being married to the lead actor. No matter what J2 are not producers. They don't run the show. They don't write the show. And it's not like Jensen cast his wife. He only casts actors in episodes he directs which is why he cast is father (an actor himself) and gave his sister an extra scene.

And as I said In addition to my general dislike of nepotism I don’t consider her to be a good actress. So that’s another reason for me to dislike the casting. Personally, I think it’s naive to think she isn’t there as a result of Jensen having some sort of word with the producers even something as simple as “Id love it if you could find Danneel something”. But agree to disagree. I’m going to make this my last post on the topic. 

[BoxManLocke]

I take issue with this because it's a BuckLeming episode. She'll be misused, they'll make it VERY clear this is something special, and I'm expecting a bunch of sex or rapey jokes.

 

It's so like them to pull a stunt like this. I like Danneel and she deserves better than to be put in BuckLeming's show inside SPN.

[Wayward Son]

2 minutes ago, BoxManLocke said:

I take issue with this because it's a BuckLeming episode. She'll be misused, they'll make it VERY clear this is something special, and I'm expecting a bunch of sex or rapey jokes.

 

It's so like them to pull a stunt like this. I like Danneel and she deserves better than to be put in BuckLeming's show inside SPN.

I’m half expecting her to begin the arc as a nun and end it “sexually liberated” as a result of having sex with Dean aka a more extended version of the crappy Dean and the porn star episode. 

[gonzosgirrl]

Danneel is at least as good an actor as 95% of the people who've been cast on this show, past or present. Personally, I think she has balls of titanium to do it, knowing the crap she's going to get for it, not to mention the outright hate from some factions.

[catrox14]

23 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

And as I said In addition to my general dislike of nepotism I don’t consider her to be a good actress. So that’s another reason for me to dislike the casting. Personally, I think it’s naive to think she isn’t there as a result of Jensen having some sort of word with the producers even something as simple as “Id love it if you could find Danneel something”. But agree to disagree. I’m going to make this my last post on the topic. 

Okay but NO ONE here has said nepotism is not a possibility. I've not said that? I'm saying it might not be the ONLY reason she's there. What is there to agree to disagree about?

[ILoveReading]

Ratings tend to fall off in the middle in the middle of the season and this sounds like a WayWard Sisters ep.   So it could be more stunt casting in the hopes it will keep the ratings up rather than nepotism. 

From the sounds of the Variety article, every character whose appeared on screen this season is going to be in this ep.  If it is a mess it won't be because of Danneel it will be because it sounds like it will be too big for Buck/Lemming to handle.

[catrox14]

16 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

I’m half expecting her to begin the arc as a nun and end it “sexually liberated” as a result of having sex with Dean aka a more extended version of the crappy Dean and the porn star episode. 

 I really hope they don't make her a love interest to Dean. I think that would make it a gimmick. Maybe it will turn out that she is the villain. Maybe Sister Jo is a faith healer who worships Lucifer or something kind of a spin on Casey from s3.

[Jonesy]

1 minute ago, ILoveReading said:

Ratings tend to fall off in the middle in the middle of the season and this sounds like a WayWard Sisters ep.   So it could be more stunt casting in the hopes it will keep the ratings up rather than nepotism. 

From the sounds of the Variety article, every character whose appeared on screen this season is going to be in this ep.  If it is a mess it won't be because of Danneel it will be because it sounds like it will be too big for Buck/Lemming to handle.

No it's not a Wayward episode at all.

[DittyDotDot]

1 hour ago, Wayward Son said:

Nepotism at its finest folks!

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/supernatural-season-13-danneel-ackles-casting-exclusive-1202627622/amp/

Hmmm? could be good, could be bad. I'll wait to judge to see how it unfolds. 

If I was her I'd have run screaming from the job, though. I mean, she doesn't already get enough crap from this fandom just from being married to and having kids with Jensen, she wants to bring on more? No matter how good or bad she is, the lines are already drawn.

[gonzosgirrl]

7 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

Okay but NO ONE here has said nepotism is not a possibility. I've not said that? I'm saying it might not be the ONLY reason she's there. What is there to agree to disagree about?

It would be straight up nepotism if she was unqualified for the job and got it because Jensen said so. Of course her relationship to Jensen is a factor, but she's an actress with many credits to her name, and history on the CW, playing a character that was decidedly *not* a nun, lol. I'd call it more stunt casting than nepotism.

 

ETA: @ILoveReading great minds...

Edited December 1, 2017 by gonzosgirrl

[ILoveReading]

3 minutes ago, Jakes said:

No it's not a Wayward episode at all.

nevermind, I misread that part.

Edited December 1, 2017 by ILoveReading

[Jonesy]

Just now, DittyDotDot said:

Hmmm? could be good, could be bad. I'll wait to judge to see how it unfolds. 

If I was her I'd have run screaming from the job, though. I mean, she doesn't already get enough crap from this fandom just from being married to and having kids with Jensen, she wants to bring on more? No matter how good or bad she is, the lines are already drawn.

Yes--I'm not going to judge it until I see it.

Just now, ILoveReading said:

The entire WayWard crew are in in it.

The Variety article was just listing all the guest stars that have been in the whole season--not for Mrs. Ackles first episode.

[ILoveReading]

1 minute ago, Jakes said:

Yes--I'm not going to judge it until I see it.

The Variety article was just listing all the guest stars that have been in the whole season--not for Mrs. Ackles first episode.

I see that now.  I read it too fast and at first it sounded like they were all in this ep.

[Jeddah]

1 hour ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Ha. Finally Jensen one-ups Jared for a change :)

I hope she's a villain!!

At least one person is happy about it ;)

Or maybe not a villain?

Hmmmm. I don’t know if it’s one-upping. Jared’s had two significant others on this show. His former fiancé was a crossroads demon, and then Gen obviously. Jensen’s still one significant other behind!

@gonzosgirrl, I know you were kidding, and I hope it comes across here that I am too!

[Lady Calypso]

Just now, ILoveReading said:

I see that now.  I read it too fast and at first it sounded like they were all in this ep.

On the bright side, according to the Supernatural wiki, this is the first episode where all the main actors are in the same episode (well, all the main actors whose characters are alive). 

I think Danneel is a fine actress but the thing I worry about is her storyline. It sounds like it'll be closely tied with Lucifer, which doesn't particularly excite me. It's not like she's some horrible actress that shouldn't have gotten the recurring role but only did because of nepotism. I'm sure being married to Jensen gave her an advantage to getting a recurring role, but she's a decent actress anyway and her primary role doesn't sound like it'll be around Dean, but Lucifer. They could have simply made her Dean's love interest. 

Plus, I watch Legends of Tomorrow and Courtney Ford is a recurring character there this season, and she's also married to one of the leads. Her role seems to also be very successful. 

I'm sure it'll be just fine. Danneel has been an actress before she was married and has had somewhat of a steady acting career (besides the last three'ish years) and it all depends how this Sister Jo is used. 

Since it is a Buck-Lemming episode, I do worry how she'll be introduced. How in the world is Lucifer going to corrupt her (as I'm positive he will end up doing)? 

[catrox14]

14 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

It would be straight up nepotism if she was unqualified for the job and got it because Jensen said so. Of course her relationship to Jensen is a factor, but she's an actress with many credits to her name, and history on the CW, playing a character that was decidedly *not* a nun, lol. I'd call it more stunt casting than nepotism.

 

ETA: @ILoveReading great minds...

Stunt casting seems like a better descriptor. Still don't want her to be Dean's love interest LOL . If I can't have Destiel, I'm holding out for Dean/Donna. They are my second place OTP on the show (sorry Sam). LOL

[Wayward Son]

Since Mishas so happy about it she can be Cas’ love interest LOL 

 

(I’m totally joking btw) 

[catrox14]

5 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

Since Mishas so happy about it she can be Cas’ love interest LOL 

 

(I’m totally joking btw) 

No you're not. You want Cas with anyone other than Dean LOL.

It would be quite the flip around if they did make her Cas' love interest though. Good lord. That would be something else.

[gonzosgirrl]

18 minutes ago, Jeddah said:

Hmmmm. I don’t know if it’s one-upping. Jared’s had two significant others on this show. His former fiancé was a crossroads demon, and then Gen obviously. Jensen’s still one significant other behind!

@gonzosgirrl, I know you were kidding, and I hope it comes across here that I am too!

*high five*

But you know, now I'm wondering if "Ruby" is going to show up in the AU. ;)

[Wayward Son]

Just now, catrox14 said:

No you're not. You want Cas with anyone other than Dean LOL.

It would be quite the flip around if they did make her Cas' love interest though. Good lord. That would be something else.

Technically, I want Cas with any male other than Dean and Sam and especially Lucifer (who has murdered him twice ). 

Although a woman of faith making an exception for the sexy angel of the lord could make a weird kind of sense :p 

 

But in all seriousness I don’t want her on the show full stop. 

[Jonesy]

11 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

Technically, I want Cas with any male other than Dean and Sam and especially Lucifer (who has murdered him twice ). 

Although a woman of faith making an exception for the sexy angel of the lord could make a weird kind of sense :p 

 

But in all seriousness I don’t want her on the show full stop. 

Well if the show stopped doing what fans did not want--they'd have to quit because whatever they do gets crapping from some quarter--lol!  So my advice to them is go from their gut, go for it and ignore the howling.

Edited December 1, 2017 by Jakes

[Pondlass1]

I have to say I'm very surprised by this news, especially with one year old twins.  They must be a handful.  But I'm sure she has babysitting well in order.  I doubt it's a big role.   It'll be interesting to see her in scenes with hubby.

She is a brave girl.  Fans can be brutal.  

[devlin123]

I can't believe people are bitching so much about this. As far as I am concerned its a bit of fun stunt casting in a show that is 13 seasons old and nearing its end!

[DeeDee79]

14 minutes ago, devlin123 said:

I can't believe people are bitching so much about this. As far as I am concerned its a bit of fun stunt casting in a show that is 13 seasons old and nearing its end!

Agreed 100%!

[catrox14]

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Supernatural did scenes earlier this week in Steveston for episode 131 . The day started with Jared Padalecki as Sam Winchester & returning recurring star Ruth Connell as Rowena doing a scene where they talked inside the Impala. The scene seemed to be quite long. It took several minutes to do each take.

After they shot that scene, Jensen Ackles arrived to do scenes as Dean Winchester, along with the pair. He joined them in the car for a scene with them.

After shooting that scene, they moved outside the car. Dean started out in the middle of the street while Sam is chasing after Rowena before she turns around and casts a spell on the brothers freezing them in place. Sam and Dean yell at Rowena to let them go, each them trying to push through, before they both fall over.

A little later the crew moved on to a different location. I didnt stay around to watch that shoot.

javas

[ahrtee]

I always feel sorry for them in winter--even with their 47 layers, none of them look particularly warm.  It seems heartless to see the boys bundled up in heavy coats between takes and then shooting in light jackets while the crew are wearing parkas and wooly caps (not to mention umbrellas!)

[SueB]

1. Love the ‘the boys are on a hunting trip and haven’t been home in a few days’ homage. 

2. I think Daneel is perfect for the role of an ambiguous character. She can do both Sweet and evil on the turn of a dime (IMO).  Sounds like a good match from the Sister Jo description.  I don’t give a shit about nepotism unless she does a bad job and they keep her on the show despite performance.  IMO that’s the case with Buck-Lemming BUT I think Dabb has done a great job of pulling good stores out of them.  

3. Ah Rowena!  I so love her sassy lines.  I’m really looking forward to her coming back.  I’ll pay real money if we get a few more Rowena/Sam sight gags. I need to hear her say ‘Giant’ or ‘Big and Tall’ or something else clever in her accent.