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To be fair, I have a college degree and multiple doctors in my family and I had to look it up to check the spelling when I had one. Just not a word I use or see written much. Though, in my case, I checked before I sent anything.

Kidney stones are no joke. I’ve had 8 (and still have a few hanging out in my kidneys like tiny time bombs). About 7 years ago, I had one that got stuck. Having had them before, I knew exactly what it was, so didn’t have to bother with diagnosis. I did have to wait over a weekend to see the urologist, but he then set me up for the stent the next morning. Infection. So, I had to wait a month or so for the lithotripsy and take strong antibiotics so it wouldn’t get in my bloodstream.. Not fun, but it all moved fast enough that the infection didn’t get out of control. Just goes to show the importance of good, available medical care.

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I'm sorry to hear that. Dementia is such an awful disease. 

I'm a little confused though. The obit says Bill passed on the 13th, but Alyssa is posting smiley pics of her and her brood on a road trip to a wedding. Even if the event was earlier it seems a bit weird to be posting about it while the family is grieving. Ditto for Tiffany and her recently uploaded cruise pics. 

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I was brought up that you held off on announcing things and I'd put posting happy photos of vacations or going to a wedding until at least after the funeral.  Of course, that assumes the funeral is held fairly soon.  In this case it's less than a week so it would seem more gracious and responsible to wait until next Tuesday or so.  A week wouldn't hurt any of them to wait, IMO.  

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On 5/18/2025 at 6:45 AM, ranchgirl said:

I just hope that Gil and Kelly got back from their Alaskan cruise in time to go and say their goodbyes.  The timing of that cruise was not well planned.  

Most people end up planning an Alaskan cruise a year or more in advance. They fill up and the excursions book up. As expensive as the excursions are, it is something that you have to do unless you know where you are going and what you are doing. I'm sure they had not thought that he would pass away so quickly. May cruises to Alaska are significantly cheaper than June/July/August and better because there aren't 5,000 children due to school. It wasn't so cold as everyone had warned when I went.  

They probably booked before he was even on hospice. Sometimes patients will go fast with that and sometimes they linger. With my aunt she was placed on hospice care a month before my parents came to visit me. The hospice nurse and doctor said it would probably be 2-3 months. On the second night of their visit, the nurse called and said she seemed a little restless. An hour later she called and said she was gone. 

What is the old saying? "Man plans and God laughs."

On 5/16/2025 at 10:55 AM, Salacious Kitty said:

True. He wrote a song and made a video about it. 

Carlin and Evan were credited by Lawson and doing the videography of that music video. So they have been dabbling in his exploitation as well.

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28 minutes ago, RebeccatheWriter said:

They probably booked before he was even on hospice. Sometimes patients will go fast with that and sometimes they linger. With my aunt she was placed on hospice care a month before my parents came to visit me. The hospice nurse and doctor said it would probably be 2-3 months. On the second night of their visit, the nurse called and said she seemed a little restless. An hour later she called and said she was gone. 

My dad went into Hospice in March, and I had a pre-planned vacation to Yellowstone scheduled at the end of May. I asked my mom if I should cancel the trip as it got closer. She told me to go because my dad had always wanted to go to Yellowstone and never did. I went and called her every night to check in. My dad lived for about three weeks after I got back.   I don't regret going.  I do wish he (and my mom) had had a chance to see Yellowstone in person.  

Maybe Jane had told them to go ahead on the trip since it had already been planned.  

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17 minutes ago, Lisa418722 said:

My dad went into Hospice in March, and I had a pre-planned vacation to Yellowstone scheduled at the end of May. I asked my mom if I should cancel the trip as it got closer. She told me to go because my dad had always wanted to go to Yellowstone and never did. I went and called her every night to check in. My dad lived for about three weeks after I got back.   I don't regret going.  I do wish he (and my mom) had had a chance to see Yellowstone in person.  

Maybe Jane had told them to go ahead on the trip since it had already been planned.  

I agree; the trip was probably planned and paid for long before Bill's final decline, let alone before he was ready for hospice.  The first thing hospice counselors advise is that the rest of the family and friends should live their lives.  I am sure Jane would've been willing to delay the services had that been necessary.  With an elderly man with as many health problems as Bill, I expect Gil and Kelly have been saying their goodbyes as if it was the last time for quite a while before now.  

Hospice care is generally entered when the person is expected to live no more than a couple more months, but it is totally an estimate.  I have a friend whose husband had cancer and was placed into hospice care with the doctor estimating he'd live for no more than a month.  He died more than 2 years later.  Sheer force of will as far as I can tell; there is no other way to explain how he lived as long as he did.  Hospice is there to make the transition easier; not to complicate the situation.

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OK, I guess I won't think less of Gil and Kelly for going on the cruise because of all the reasons above.  I just think with Mama Jane's cancer and Papa Bill getting worse off, that the timing was not good.  But maybe Kelly and Gil needed the time off and away.  

I do know that the timeline with Hospice can be hours/days/months and even years.  Both my mom and dad were on Hospice before their passing.  Dad for several months and my mom for days.  Hospice was AMAZING in both circumstances.  They made my parents last days as peaceful as possible and helped to prepare us, the family.  

 

 

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The hospice literature I've read says most people don't think of hospice until it's very late in the process.  As I've said Medicare covers from six months expected life expectancy on. Mom went on as soon as she was eligible and I heartily recommend sooner rather than later.  You get decisions out of the way while you're still less concerned about imminent death.  You get the full use of the services.  The patient gets the extra attention and you can save yourself from paying for and having to obtain certain things like even toothpaste and "Depends."  They simply provided all of that and most of Mom's medications. Getting relief from some of the logistical concerns frees up the family to spend more quality time with the patient. They even pre-positioned oxygen weeks before it was needed so I didn't have to give that a single thought.  

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On 5/20/2025 at 11:09 AM, ranchgirl said:

OK, I guess I won't think less of Gil and Kelly for going on the cruise because of all the reasons above.  I just think with Mama Jane's cancer and Papa Bill getting worse off, that the timing was not good.  But maybe Kelly and Gil needed the time off and away.  

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Time off from what? What's less than doing nothing? 

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Death is always so complicated and different for so many people. My father-in-law was doing really well in rehab, but could not wait to get home. He ate a big breakfast and then died. Only had technically been on hospice for a day.
 

My brother-in-law spent about two weeks on hospice at home. He didn’t pass until the middle of the night when no one was awake. Some people wait until they are surrounded by family, and some people want to pass alone.

if anyone is in that situation and would like to know more about it, YouTube has videos from a hospice nurse called Julie. She will explain absolutely everything you need to know. And she will even talk about the last 24 hours and after death. I sent my sister all of the videos. Then the social worker ended up asking if she knew anything about hospice and she said she watched a lot of videos. It’s really important to know everything you can. Especially when you find out how much support you will get, all of the supplies, etc. And also the fact that they are not always there, but they teach you how to handle things on your own.

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6 hours ago, Heathen said:

Time off from what? What's less than doing nothing? 

Kelly has had a very busy Winter/Spring ... first, she nearly died.  (Was helping Gil's parents when this happened.)  Then she was in Utah for the family ski week and then hosted I Love You Day and then said she was helping Mama Jane's with her radiation treatments and one of the girls still at home (can't remember names) graduated high school, right?  And there was a baby shower (Emerson and maybe someone else) that she helped plan and put on.  

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