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KingOfHearts

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What they've been saying in the spoiler rooms could be gathered from the finale. Even casual watchers can figure it out. All we really know about that's new is the casting news, the 22-episode format, and the fact Archie is returning. Everything else is vague and inarticulate. 

 

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“What’s funny is in the pilot if you watch when Emma sees the wolf that stops her from leaving town, the book flips open and we see all these worlds,” Kitsis says. “It’s time to tell new stories, broaden the show and move forward.” As for why these stories have not yet been told, Kitsis points to something Hyde said in the finale: “As he said, I need a place where these stories can play out, which would make me think for some reason they weren’t being played out, they were pushed on pause.”

It sounds like Land of Untold Stories is just Storybrooke 2.0.

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When everyone realized Rumple and Regina weren't coming back, they had a big celebration and put on a cloaking spell so they can never be found or contacted ever again.

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At least someone is freaking out over Emma's darkness. Keep giving a shit, Hook! You're pretty much the only one who does...

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HER GRANDMA IS EMMA! Are they being serious with this?

RadioGirl27

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1 hour ago, Curio said:

The spoilers for Season 6 have been incredibly vague. Are they purposely not trying to spill the beans about the plot this year because they want to keep it a surprise, or is the story so meandering and open-ended that it's hard to pinpoint exactly what they want to spoil?

This is a clear case of "We have no idea, stop asking questions that are not about Regina and about how cool is the Evil Queen".

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Lii

Lii

They're just pissy that everyone is asking about the stuff that is actually intriguing to ask about, i.e. untold stories, Hyde, Belle Box, and no one is asking about the stuff that THEY thought everyone would be all about, i.e. speshulest snowflake Evil Queen twins. Possibly Twitter was not the best sounding board for fan interest after all, guys. Shock and awe.

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Shanna Marie

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1 hour ago, KingOfHearts said:

“It’s time to tell new stories, broaden the show and move forward.”

That sounds oddly like something a new showrunner brought in to take over the show and try to right a sinking ship would say, not like someone who's been in charge all along would say. They have this weird way of talking in interviews that makes it sound like they're not at all responsible for what happens on the show. There were these stories suggested in season one, and they haven't been told yet, so it's time to tell them now. We need to broaden our horizons and tell new stories (as though they haven't already brought in not only fairy tales, but 19th century science fiction in Frankenstein, 19th century children's stories with Wonderland characters, early 20th century British fiction with the Pan-related characters, 20th century American fiction with the Oz characters, and 21st century Disney/Pixar creations with Frozen and Merida). It's the way they talk about the future of the show -- parts that have actually already been written but that haven't aired -- in terms of "we'd be disappointed/surprised if that didn't happen."

Hmm, maybe the writing elves do write this show and they have no control over it.

My translation is that it's going to be more of the same, but drawing on stories they haven't used before, only without an overriding theme for the arc. How many of these stories will they burn through in one season by just namedropping characters without really delving into their stories?

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Rumsy4

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“What’s funny is in the pilot if you watch when Emma sees the wolf that stops her from leaving town, the book flips open and we see all these worlds,” Kitsis says. “It’s time to tell new stories, broaden the show and move forward.” As for why these stories have not yet been told, Kitsis points to something Hyde said in the finale: “As he said, I need a place where these stories can play out, which would make me think for some reason they weren’t being played out, they were pushed on pause.”

Basically, this was just an extremely convoluted way of saying the writers were bringing in a ton of new guest characters into the Show. They want their idea to sound deep instead of being straightforward about it. Typical Eddy. 

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KingOfHearts

KingOfHearts

45 minutes ago, Souris said:

I have yet to read one thing that interests me about this season. They need to start dropping some hints about what characters not named Regina or Random Guest Star #67 are going to be dealing with.

At this point, all we really care about are the main characters. Not the guest stars or big-name franchises. There's absolutely nothing new going on for them beyond natural development. (No-duh things like Captain Swan getting closer, Rumple's ongoing Box Saga, etc.) The Untold Stories people are nothing we haven't seen before. New characters come to Storybrooke and do their thing. It's boring.

tri4335

tri4335

1 hour ago, KingOfHearts said:

At this point, all we really care about are the main characters. Not the guest stars or big-name franchises. There's absolutely nothing new going on for them beyond natural development. (No-duh things like Captain Swan getting closer, Rumple's ongoing Box Saga, etc.) The Untold Stories people are nothing we haven't seen before. New characters come to Storybrooke and do their thing. It's boring.

Agree not here for the guest stars or big-name franchises.  Gotta be honest though, I'm only here for SOME of the main characters not all!

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sharky

sharky

3 hours ago, Souris said:

I have yet to read one thing that interests me about this season. They need to start dropping some hints about what characters not named Regina or Random Guest Star #67 are going to be dealing with.

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt since they just started filming and it's the middle of summer anyway. But if we get through Comic Con in two weeks with a whole lot of nothing much, I'm going to get worried.

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daxx

daxx

51 minutes ago, sharky said:

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt since they just started filming and it's the middle of summer anyway. But if we get through Comic Con in two weeks with a whole lot of nothing much, I'm going to get worried.

Yes, we never get much before Comicon. Filming spoilers aren't usually too revealing until we have some context.

you have no idea how happy I am to come here and see this thread lit up again...

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maryle

maryle

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I have the feeling they really want to gave a season 1 feeling and be more ensemble in the tiny bit new  thing they tease  and that  Emma's as savior have not been forgot like I was afread. ( the savior titre for the first episode and the Emma and co. have to help Untold citizen ...) 

That does give hope for this  season. All the EQ stuff seem more post final or use as  an example. She will have a big role but she always does.  Funny they seems to realize that the double EQ was not their big attention gimmick they thought.

So, if CS, the Charming Clan and Yes even Rumbelle can have a real intetesting storyline where the Untold story is use organically. 

I will be a happy camper, I am not  that hard to please.

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scenicbyway

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I'm fairly wary of the this whole new season.  Once again, the focus is on Regina, I suppose coming to terms that she is both the evil queen and reformed Regina.  I feel like that's a small part of Emma's story though.  Yes, it was Regina's curse that forever altered Emma's life, but we've seen reformed Regina for 2 seasons now, do we need yet another reminder and set of flashbacks every episode to the Evil Queen vs. Snow years?  Last season was a real disappointment because there was so much build up with Emma and Hook and Darks Ones and then she literally went to hell for him and the pay off was he randomly got sent back by Zeus and a few kisses in the cemetery?

The title "The Savior" isn't giving me any hope either, the "Savior" this time will probably turn out to be Regina.

I did like the filming pics though, I guess at least we know some of who's in the first episode.

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Serena

Serena

The problem with this story, IMO, is not that it's a Regina story (even though I don't enjoy her stories). It's that, once again like in season 4, Regina is gonna spend a whole season dealing with a "problem" that could be resolved if she got therapy and grew the hell up already. In S4, it was the stupid author/happy ending stuff, and she had to realize she needs to take charge of her own happy ending or whatever. Cool, but if you had realized it 20 episodes ago, all the fuckery with the author that brought so much maymen wouldn't have happened. And this season, Regina needs to realize that she's both Regina and the EQ, and once again her seeking magic solution for her mental problems brought a magical threat to town. Can we not?

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KingOfHearts

KingOfHearts

11 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Well some people wanted to women to raise a child together. I'm almost hoping this is it, because the writers do listen, except be careful what you wish for.

Well that would be a new development. Zelena and Regina haven't shown any desire to raise the child together. You could count the nod at the funeral, I suppose. 

Rumsy4

Rumsy4

1 minute ago, Rumsy4 said:

https://twitter.com/Hookfoundme/status/752958033085419521

https://ouat-es.tumblr.com/post/147303165655/6x01-the-savior-filmingbts-july-12-th

Sam Witwer and Lana.

So, far the episode seems Regina-heavy. Which makes sense to kick of yet another Regina arc, despite the name being "The Savior". If Emma is at all there, she'll be playing second-fiddle to Regina and walking on eggshells around her. 

KingOfHearts

KingOfHearts

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Sam Witwer and Lana.

Regina: "What the hell are you doing?"
Hyde: "Oh, just strutting around town. Chewing the scenery."
Regina: "If you're going to be here, let's get one thing straight - that's my job."
Evil Queen (walking up): "Actually, it's mine."
Hyde's heart goes aflutter at the sight of such gorgeous evilness.
 

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

46 minutes ago, Rumsy4 said:

So, far the episode seems Regina-heavy. Which makes sense to kick of yet another Regina arc, despite the name being "The Savior". If Emma is at all there, she'll be playing second-fiddle to Regina and walking on eggshells around her. 

It looks like it, but at the same time, it's because she posted a couple of pictures yesterday, and they are filming on location today. We don't know anything about Emma, Hook, Snowing other than that they filmed on Thursday, and we would know absolutely nothing about Rumple and Belle if the Leaf Lady hadn't posted about Bobby and Emilie being in studio on Friday. 

Tomorrow it's Steveston where I'm assuming most of the cast will be.

Honestly, I'm more annoyed that 4 days into filming, Lana is still wearing the same clothes she was when Regina got back from NYC. I get that the characters got back from NYC the following day, but annoyed as fuck that they decided to dump them into this new mess right away. What? No showers? No clothes change after a 7 hour car trip, and spending 2 days in the same clothes?

Little details like these make me angry.

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Curio

Curio

5 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

So, far the episode seems Regina-heavy. Which makes sense to kick of yet another Regina arc, despite the name being "The Savior". If Emma is at all there, she'll be playing second-fiddle to Regina and walking on eggshells around her. 

Yep. I tend to dislike A&E's episodes anyways, so I don't have high expectations for this premiere. I'm going to be the Debbie Downer of the group and call that "The Savior" ends up being Regina, since A&E episodes tend to be Regina-centrics.

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Rumsy4

Rumsy4

6 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Honestly, I'm more annoyed that 4 days into filming, Lana is still wearing the same clothes she was when Regina got back from NYC. I get that the characters got back from NYC the following day, but annoyed as fuck that they decided to dump them into this new mess right away. What? No showers? No clothes change after a 7 hour car trip, and spending 2 days in the same clothes?

Maybe Regina sprayed a magical deo on herself. :-p 

KingOfHearts

KingOfHearts

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Hyde Queen is totally going to be a thing.

If Regina starts dating Jekyll and EQ starts dating Hyde, that might actually be interesting. It has more potential than Outlaw Queen because A&E would be more willing to explore what makes it odd. Jekyll and Regina can deal with having split personalities together.

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

I don't see them giving Regina another love interest.

If they do, where would that person fall? Daniel was called her true love (although I'm more inclined to see him as her first love instead), Robin was called her soulmate. 

So there seems to be a lot more happening on set with everyone else showing up. Seems Hyde gets tossed in the squad car by David and Hook, and Emma may or may not have done something she wasn't supposed to.

pezgirl7

pezgirl7

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2 hours ago, Curio said:

Well I guess whoever voted for Hook's occupation to be deputy in the job poll can give themselves a cookie. 

Yay, I get a cookie! I said I wanted him to be a deputy so he could work alongside Charming! Bonus if he's wearing a sword! Hopefully it lasts more than one episode. Finally some spoilers I can can get excited about. :)

What exactly did Emma do that she wasn't suppose to?

Looking at the set pics here... https://mobile.twitter.com/Hookfoundme

Seems like Emma gets thrown to the ground. No idea what is happening, but there are some lovely photos of Colin's and Josh's backsides. :) They all seem to be enjoying themselves.

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KAOS Agent

KAOS Agent

Nah, Hyde seems to be choking her. It's True Love. They need to get right on that. Perhaps a 20 minute walk. Or a bike ride. They'll be ready for a curse breaking kiss in no time.

Also, how exciting that Regina & Snow seem to be having yet another heart to heart. Why can't she have a chat with Granny or something and mix it up.  I feel like a Granny/Regina conversation/pep talk has the potential to be seriously awesome. Let the characters out of their interaction boxes.

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

1 hour ago, Curio said:

Why do I have the feeling Regina/Snow will have more interactions and meaningful conversations together within the first two episodes of Season 6 than Emma/Snow have had over the past two years?

It's not exactly a feeling when it has been a fact since at least 3B.

I'm curious about the whole "what do you know? What aren't you saying?" bit from Emma to Hyde.

Curio

Curio

52 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I'm curious about the whole "what do you know? What aren't you saying?" bit from Emma to Hyde.

That's just a classic "OUAT Premiere Cryptic Line" to make it seem like there's a big mystery brewing, but they won't actually reveal the mystery until the Hyde-centric episode later on in the season. Kind of like Rumple's mysterious—but ultimately meaningless—forest conversations with the Ice Queen.

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KingOfHearts

KingOfHearts

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Isn't Hyde magical? (Or magically super strong?) How the heck can they arrest him?

Hyde: "What? How did you catch me so quickly?!"
Charming: "We saw you strolling down Main Street in the middle of the road."
Hyde: "Damn! I didn't think my obvious villain strut would give away my location so easily!"
Hook: "Aye. They always think that."

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

7 minutes ago, KingOfHearts said:

Isn't Hyde magical? (Or magically super strong?) How the heck can they arrest him?

I don't think he is magical, but he is supposed to be freakishly strong. We saw what he did to Hook with one hand. I wouldn't be surprised why he came to the party armed with a sword.

Emma looks to be aiming something at him, so maybe she incapacitates him, and it still takes 2 people to cuff him and put him in the squad car.

Also, it seems magic wands can be used just by about anyone, including non magical people (Robin to cure Marian, young!Regina, Hyde). 

KingOfHearts

KingOfHearts

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Also, it seems magic wands can be used just by about anyone, including non magical people (Robin to cure Marian, young!Regina, Hyde). 

It depends on the wand, I believe. Emma needed magic to use the Black Fairy's Wand in 3x22. Though, that was because Emma's magic needed to tell it what to recreate.

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