RHoBH in the Media

[Rorysmom]

She got past it with Erika, the person who said the words, and Kyle, who laughed with Dorit about it. Dorit apologized multiple times, and Garcelle said she accepted. Garcelle didn't want to "move past it" (trademark, Real Housewives) with Dorit. Her prerogative. I just wonder how much of that was because of her friendship with Sutton. Or what social media thought of Dorit.

Edited April 18 by Rorysmom
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[Keywestclubkid]

49 minutes ago, Rorysmom said:

She got past it with Erika, the person who said the words, and Kyle, who laughed with Dorit about it. Dorit apologized multiple times, and Garcelle said she accepted. Garcelle didn't want to "move past it" (trademark, Real Housewives) with Dorit. Her prerogative. I just wonder how much of that was because of her friendship with Sutton. Or what social media thought of Dorit.

she didn't get past it she took Erika's im sorry i was on pills and booze apology .. and continued to side eye her ..

[Rorysmom]

But she has happily hung out with her and Kyle.

[Surrealist]

People on social acting as if Garcelle was the best friend that Sutton could have ever had amuse me too.

All the HWs have real life friends who have known them for years. And I'm not just talking about Jennifer in Sutton's case. Garcelle has a shit load of real world friends. 

I enjoyed watching Garcelle and Sutton's friendship, but never thought of them as each other's besties. They hung out and stuff. Like things that friends do. 

I think the fanbase is making all of this deeper than it needs to be. 

And once again, it's like the wallet comment, they're projecting their own inadequacies and insecurities onto these HWs. 

It's so weird and parasocial to me. 

This is supposed to be a lifestyle reality show with some squabbles happening between rich BH housewives. It's not a primer on how to be a decent human being. 😂

Edited April 18 by Surrealist

[Rorysmom]

I agree. I am commenting on this only as it relates to the show and how it could have been better or different with Garcelle. 

[Yours Truly]

5 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I mean you can be upset with how she left but until your feelings have been invalidated at every turn and when your child has been used as a pawn WE can’t fault anyone for they way they finally just give up right? For 5 years she’s put on a brave face and faced these woman and for 5 years they have crapped on her life to HER face  crapped on her children crapped on you don’t show us enough (but when she does again it’s crapped on) and she’s held it together..

 

She saw that this was just gonna repeat AGAIN if she came back .. they wore her down .. they got what they wanted 

 

she could have left much harsher and she didn’t .. good for her .. I would have been two middle fingers up and calling them every name in the book 

I mean, I'm sharing how I feel about the reunion and her exit, well aware of what's transpired during the show. Quite honestly I doubt Garcelle is in the throws of anguish and despair over it all so painting such a dismal picture of Garcelle's "trials and tribulations" throughout  her run is a bit overkill.

I saw the show and know what happened so the recaps are very unnecessary. Just saying. 

16 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Another social media "no no" is snitch tagging in someone else's mentions.

This is from a HWs fan IG account. 

I think I'm at the point where I realize its the fanbase I hate more than I could ever hate any of the actual HWs. 

Here Here!

[Yours Truly]

nevermind

 

 

 

 

Edited April 18 by Yours Truly

[Yours Truly]

3 hours ago, Surrealist said:

People on social acting as if Garcelle was the best friend that Sutton could have ever had amuse me too.

All the HWs have real life friends who have known them for years. And I'm not just talking about Jennifer in Sutton's case. Garcelle has a shit load of real world friends. 

I enjoyed watching Garcelle and Sutton's friendship, but never thought of them as each other's besties. They hung out and stuff. Like things that friends do. 

I think the fanbase is making all of this deeper than it needs to be. 

And once again, it's like the wallet comment, they're projecting their own inadequacies and insecurities onto these HWs. 

It's so weird and parasocial to me. 

This is supposed to be a lifestyle reality show with some squabbles happening between rich BH housewives. It's not a primer on how to be a decent human being. 😂

Agreed. All of this Garcelle was a loyal and truest friend EVER! I mean she was aight to be honest. I've had frenemies defend me better though.  LOL But I'm a Puerto Rican chick that grew up on the streets of the Bronx in the 80's so we were all friends/enemies at some point in time. It was a man eat man world back then. LOL.

In the words of Kyle, this is child's play... Lol

 Oh and I'm mad that no one took the opportunity make a Jennifer Till connection.  LOL

[Cosmocrush]

4 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

All the HWs have real life friends who have known them for years.

Well, maybe not Dorito.  She's still calling PK her best friend, lol. 

[Surrealist]

53 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

Well, maybe not Dorito.  She's still calling PK her best friend, lol. 

I always side eye women who call their husbands their "best friend."

Not because wives shouldn't be friends with their husbands, but because they're usually the women who abandon their female friends after getting married. Especially their single female friends. 

I think a best friend should be someone you're not married to because a marriage can always end, and if you don't have any friends, aside from your husband (or your kids), you're going to have a pretty lonely life.

[Sweet-tea]

On 4/12/2025 at 11:06 AM, Mindthinkr said:

Kyle Richard’s has been cast in the Lincoln Lawyer series for season 4. Article is on deadline.com 

Ugh. I like this show. I don't know if I want to watch it now. 

Kyle's jaw looks huge and her face very square in that picture. 

On 4/9/2025 at 7:16 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/kyle-richards-reveals-new-details-on-trip-with-morgan-wade-to-europe
 

I think this is exactly what Garcelle was talking about .. you do interviews and you are following this woman around and you are posting this stuff to your socials but you REFUSE to talk about or mention it on the show .. that’s weird .. 

Yes and she's made vague comments about how she will "soon" be better or living a different life or whatever and about her feelings for a woman, discussing it with her daughters. etc. The elephant in the room is Morgan Wade and everyone knows it. But Kyle just keeps ignoring it.  

On 4/9/2025 at 7:24 PM, Surrealist said:

Sutton defending Kyle annoyed me this season, but Dorit is the one who's super desperate to get back in with Kyle. 

Kyle's long since been over with her. 

I don't care how many lunch, or dinner, dates they set up to talk about how to repair their friendship. They're never going to be good like that ever again.

Same goes with Boz. 

The minute she started challenging Kyle about what she's said to people, Kyle was like, "Nope." She'll never really like Boz either for challenging her position on the show. 

She's happy to have Dorit and Boz to act as her backup for when she goes after other castmates, but she doesn't genuinely like either woman.

The flying monkeys are to do Kyle's bidding, not question, challenge, or disagree with her. 

[Sweet-tea]

On 4/15/2025 at 8:12 AM, Keywestclubkid said:

GARCELLE has every right to not be friends with any of these ladies ESP when HALF of them came for her or her child ...

 

She wasn't trying to dictate who Sutton could be friends with she just decided to set a boundary of her friendship ... 

you wanna KiKi with ladies that think its ok to shit on me and my chidren fine .. but dont expect me to continue to ride for you when you dont to the same for me.. ANYONE would have done that

to try to make GARCELLE wrong for that is funny to me

we have seen GARCELLE defend sutton when no one else would we have also seen Sutton turn a blind eye to GARCELLE when she was on the receiving end .. to say that if someone was doing this to you you wouldn't be upset is hyperbolic and hypocritical

Yes. Sutton is weak. Her people-pleasing nature and desire for Kyle's friendship is ruling her. She seems willing to jeaopardize her genuine friendship with Garcelle for a fake one with Kyle. And in that one, Kyle will always be running the show. They will never be equals. It's unfortunate. 

[Keywestclubkid]

I’m not saying this is TRUE but it would make a LOT of sense 

[RealHousewife]

Just now, Surrealist said:

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

The nastiness from the show has found its way into the fanbase, and a lot of them are genuinely terrible people for what they say. 

Agree, but you are a newer fan of the show, right? Unfortunately there have been crazy fans season the early days. 

And I just saw the post above. I figured Erika was still married to Tom due to financial reasons. 

Edited April 18 by RealHousewife

[Shannah Banana]

This is very off topic, but did Erika have a breast reduction?  I kept thinking something looked different about her during the reunion, and then just saw a picture of her at a previous reunion (blue dress with boobs all poppin' out) and it looks like she had a breast reduction.  Or maybe this season's reunion they weren't all tape up and out and whatever they do to make you look like your boobs are bigger than they really are. 

I don't know, just wondering.  But, I will say, she looks better with smaller boobs :)

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I’m not saying this is TRUE but it would make a LOT of sense 

It sure would!  There really isn’t any good reason she didn’t divorce him right away,  since she talks about how miserable she was in that marriage.

[RealHousewife]

Just now, Shannah Banana said:

This is very off topic, but did Erika have a breast reduction?  I kept thinking something looked different about her during the reunion, and then just saw a picture of her at a previous reunion (blue dress with boobs all poppin' out) and it looks like she had a breast reduction.  Or maybe this season's reunion they weren't all tape up and out and whatever they do to make you look like your boobs are bigger than they really are. 

I don't know, just wondering.  But, I will say, she looks better with smaller boobs :)

It might just be weight loss. 

[JohnnyU]

On 4/5/2025 at 9:09 PM, heatherchandler said:

Erika Jayne is a pig!

Who doesn’t support other women, Erika??

https://pagesix.com/2025/04/03/entertainment/ire-as-reality-star-erika-jayne-seems-to-bask-in-glory-of-her-anora-song-while-pushing-its-creator-brooke-candy-aside/

It wasn’t HER song on Anora.  
 

Love what Brooke Candy said about her:

 

This is a song to fight over being proud of?  Ok I’m officially old.

[nexxie]

Can’t see how this show will be watchable next season with the current cast - actually it wasn’t watchable this season. The rh franchise has run its course - right into the gutter, along with many of its hate-spewing fans. Strange times we’re living in!

 

[Shannah Banana]

13 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

It might just be weight loss.

Weight loss...I think you're right.  When I compare the two pictures, she evidently lost a lot of weight.  Another thing I was thinking, how could she have had breast reduction without the whole world knowing it?  Having breast reduction or implants removed is a big deal in the Bravoverse.

 

[Surrealist]

I don't know that Sutton should respond to any of the fans because it won't matter, but she's responded to a couple. 

As far as the one asking if she has a therapist, I would ask the same of HWs fans who park themselves in these women's mentions to troll and harass them. 

Also the only person who deserves an explanation is Garcelle. The fans aren't owed anything. Such entitlement.

I don't care how long someone has been a fan, a lot of this shit is outright nasty. I'm glad, at least, one real life friend/acquaintance who has known her for years defended her in the comments. 

Edited April 19 by Surrealist

[RealHousewife]

Just now, Surrealist said:

I don't know that Sutton should respond to any of the fans because it won't matter, but she's responded to a couple. 

As far as the one asking if she has a therapist, I would ask the same of HWs fans who park themselves in these women's mentions to troll and harass them. 

Also the only person who deserves an explanation is Garcelle. The fans aren't owed anything. Such entitlement.

I don't care how long someone has been a fan, a lot of this shit is outright nasty. I'm glad, at least, one real life friend/acquaintance who has known her for years defended her in the comments. 

Jesus. I'm so glad I don't use social media. 

For the first time, I'm not sure if I'll watch next season. I've been obsessed with RHOBH since it first debuted, but I'm not interested in a Sutton gang-up. Even if I think she could have been more loyal to Garcelle, she doesn't deserve any of this cruelty. 

[nexxie]

2 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I don't know that Sutton should respond to any of the fans because it won't matter, but she's responded to a couple. 

As far as the one asking if she has a therapist, I would ask the same of HWs fans who park themselves in these women's mentions to troll and harass them. 

Also the only person who deserves an explanation is Garcelle. The fans aren't owed anything. Such entitlement.

I don't care how long someone has been a fan, a lot of this shit is outright nasty. I'm glad, at least, one real life friend/acquaintance who has known her for years defended her in the comments. 

Edited April 19 by nexxie
oops - didn’t post. Wanted to say some fans need to get a life!

[Surrealist]

Another Sutton one. But also one under Jennifer's account. I'm not a fan of Erika, but no one should be attacking her under another woman's IG. 

[Sweet-tea]

12 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Jesus. I'm so glad I don't use social media. 

For the first time, I'm not sure if I'll watch next season. I've been obsessed with RHOBH since it first debuted, but I'm not interested in a Sutton gang-up. Even if I think she could have been more loyal to Garcelle, she doesn't deserve any of this cruelty. 

Me too. Reading these makes me glad I'm not on those forums. I'm having flashbacks to the mean girls in school, but they were saying this stuff in person. Sutton should ignore them. 

Unless there's a major cast shake-up, I don't plan to watch next season. 

Agree with Jennifer's observations here about Sutton's need for Kyle's approval. I understand. I grew up with an NPD mother and was always seeking those brief moments in the sun with her. But they were fleeting, and the rest of the time there were clouds and thunderstorms. Hope Sutton learns that this isn't a good or real friendship for her. Kyle will always keep her guessing. Kyle is repeating the dynamic of growing up with Big Kathy as a mother and the dysfunction with her sisters competing for the mother's attention and love. 

I wonder why they didn't air the huge fight between Dorit and Camille?

https://realityblurb.com/2025/04/19/jennifer-tilly-addresses-what-producer-told-her-about-sutton-sutton-wanting-kyles-approval-compares-dynamic-to-reba-plus-new-details-about-unaired-fight-between-camille-dorit-if-she/

Edited April 20 by Sweet-tea

[Cosmocrush]

4 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

https://realityblurb.com/2025/04/19/jennifer-tilly-addresses-what-producer-told-her-about-sutton-sutton-wanting-kyles-approval-compares-dynamic-to-reba-plus-new-details-about-unaired-fight-between-camille-dorit-if-she/

Thanks for the link.  Interesting insight by Jennifer Tilly and unlike so many gossip sites, it appears to come straight from her in the interview. 

[Pi237]

 Tilly: “At my caviar party, I thought I was enjoying Dorit and Sutton screaming at each other, but then it cut to me, and it looked really sad. Maybe I was sad underneath? But then I thought, Oh, well, at least they won’t cut my caviar party! So I wasn’t sad anymore.”

🤣 She’s a pip.

Sutton craving Kyle’s approval reminding me of Taylor to LVP, ‘if you can’t be my friend, just please don’t be my enemy!’  So cringy. Taylor was super thirsty to get in tight with her. 

[pasdetrois]

Interesting tidbits from Jennifer's interview: she went on the show because Chucky was cancelled; Bravo specified her alliance (friend to Sutton); and Jennifer seems to be telling Bravo she's open to a fulltime slot.

[Keywestclubkid]

its so weird that they have to think of them coming in like its Survivor and they have to have alliances ... Dont they see how lop sided that it is when they have to do that? its strange that production doesn't go we gotta break that up instead of just band aid slap of here lets see if we can give her a friend of ..

[Surrealist]

8 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

its so weird that they have to think of them coming in like its Survivor and they have to have alliances ... Dont they see how lop sided that it is when they have to do that? its strange that production doesn't go we gotta break that up instead of just band aid slap of here lets see if we can give her a friend of ..

There's always been a dark underbelly (even in the early seasons) of the HWs franchise. 

Also having watched Vice's Dark Side of Reality TV docuseries (there was a HWs episode) and the two-part Jerry Springer docuseries (the producer-driven manipulations were similar to what we see on reality shows) has me looking at all these HWs very differently. 

We've all known about the behind-the-scenes aspects of these shows, but it hits differently when it's distilled into an episode or docuseries, especially with all these years of hindsight, from when these shows first came onto the scene.

[Keywestclubkid]

9 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

We've all known about the behind-the-scenes aspects of these shows, but it hits differently when it's distilled into an episode or docuseries, especially with all these years of hindsight, from when these shows first came onto the scene.

Oh def .. I am still to this day shocked with how America's next top model got away with half the shit they did esp with the talking to contestants like shit or finding out one of the girls friends just died then making them do a coffin death challanges and being like well if you dont do it youll go home .. 

[Surrealist]

15 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Oh def .. I am still to this day shocked with how America's next top model got away with half the shit they did esp with the talking to contestants like shit or finding out one of the girls friends just died then making them do a coffin death challanges and being like well if you dont do it youll go home .. 

Definitely. That last episode of the Vice show was about ANTM. 

Janice Dickinson was one of the interviewees. We alI know she had a hardcore rep while on ANTM. On the Vice series, Janice was in a genuine state of contrition. She took accountability for the fact that her comments fucked with the contestants' self esteem. I was glad to see her apologize on camera, even though I know the show's been off for years. There was a ANTM producer who spoke at length about the production stuff. Tyra, however, wasn't on it.

I thought she was the worst when it came to delivering soul crushing critiques.

I especially remember being shocked by how Tyra would speak to the young African American contestants who looked up to her as an American success story. She was super hard on them. Unrelenting.

Edited April 21 by Surrealist

[Mindthinkr]

What was the name of that Vice show y’all are mentioning and the channel it was on would be helpful too. Thanks. 

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

What was the name of that Vice show y’all are mentioning and the channel it was on would be helpful too. Thanks. 

Dark Side Of Reality TV

Delving into the outrageous world of reality television and the shows that redefined entertainment in the 21st century.

https://www.vicetv.com/en_us/show/dark-side-of-reality-tv

it was on the Vice channel.. IF you have hulu i think its on there to

Edited April 21 by Keywestclubkid

[Surrealist]

1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Dark Side Of Reality TV

Delving into the outrageous world of reality television and the shows that redefined entertainment in the 21st century.

https://www.vicetv.com/en_us/show/dark-side-of-reality-tv

it was on the Vice channel

I'm so glad that you watched it too. We've all heard the gossip over the years, but when it's in your face all these years later, it hits differently. You know what I mean?

As far as RHOBH goes, I should stop watching it now, but I enjoy interacting with all of you here. It's a dilemma. LOL.

Garcelle leaving makes me sad, but I don't blame her for leaving. She has so many wonderful things happening in her life, and she doesn't need this show anymore.

I still like Sutton. I can relate to her about her mother issues, although I turned out differently than her. She's deeply insecure and a self-saboteur. I want her to get her shit together. She still has a lot of unresolved trauma. I'm not happy with how she screwed up things with Garcelle.

I'm not happy with how fans have been going after both of them, and this includes the nastiness directed at the other HWs. 

I hate the way many fans have been cheering over the demise of Garcelle/Sutton's friendship. For me, friendship breakups are the worst, even over boyfriend breakups. It doesn't matter what caused the friendship breakup, it's still emotionally difficult to navigate through the aftermath.

Other HWs have said that Garcelle and Sutton had a real life friendship, so it wasn't just for the show.

The whole situation bums me out.

Edited April 21 by Surrealist

[nexxie]

Garcelle hasn’t completely cut off contact with Sutton, but Sutton is giving her space.

https://pagesix.com/2025/04/20/entertainment/sutton-stracke-is-giving-garcelle-beauvais-the-space-she-needs-after-suspected-rhobh-fallout/

[Cosmocrush]

44 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Garcelle hasn’t completely cut off contact with Sutton, but Sutton is giving her space.

https://pagesix.com/2025/04/20/entertainment/sutton-stracke-is-giving-garcelle-beauvais-the-space-she-needs-after-suspected-rhobh-fallout/

Heh.  Like Sutton has a choice.  Nice spin.

From the Page Six story:

Stracke posted a photo with Beauvais after she announced her departure, writing, that they would be “friends forever.”

Beauvais notably never commented on or liked the post.

 

 

[Cosmocrush]

5 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I still like Sutton. I can relate to her about her mother issues, although I turned out differently than her. She's deeply insecure and a self-saboteur. I want her to get her shit together. She still has a lot of unresolved trauma. I'm not happy with how she screwed up things with Garcelle.

I still like Sutton on this show.  She's a snob and sometimes the snobby HWs are the most fun to watch, generally because I find they actually don't have too much to be snobby about.  The Countess is still one of my all time faves, especially in her early seasons.  I found her unintentionally hilarious. 

Unpopular opinion, but I didn't really care for the Reba/Sutton and friends story.  I can see why the viewers liked it but I thought it wasn't exactly fair to Reba to put it on camera; longtime family issues are generally uncomfortable to watch in snippets of TV.   With Kyle and her sisters, they were on the show when that stuff came up so the consent seemed informed. 

[Surrealist]

29 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

Unpopular opinion, but I didn't really care for the Reba/Sutton and friends story.  I can see why the viewers liked it but I thought it wasn't exactly fair to Reba to put it on camera; longtime family issues are generally uncomfortable to watch in snippets of TV.  

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion within the fanbase, tbh. For what it's worth, I tend to agree. Watching Sutton trying to work her way through her "mother issues" was a tough watch. She'll probably never get the resolution she desires on that front.

The part that most blew my mind was when Andy asked Sutton about what her mother thought about being on the show. Sutton responded that her mother hadn't watched the show, yet. LOL. I thought to myself, "Wait until Reba sees that TH of Sutton talking about how she was raised by a narcissist, and was married to one." I'm guessing, based off her TH, Sutton is in therapy. At least, I hope she is. She's still got a lot of work to do on herself.

OMG, Countess Luann. I've only seen about a handful of RHONY episodes. She's the perfect person to be a HW. 

Edited April 21 by Surrealist

[Pi237]

Countess Luann lmao all you needed to know about her is how offended she got when Bethany called her by her first time to the driver and she corrected her in loud whispers right in front of him, “umm it’s Mrs. de Lesseps”. She is the perfect housewife, you’re right…even though she has infuriated me at times, she’s got that rich person-totally out of touch and full of her own imagined importance. 

[Surrealist]

Just now, Pi237 said:

Countess Luann lmao all you needed to know about her is how offended she got when Bethany called her by her first time to the driver and she corrected her in loud whispers right in front of him, “umm it’s Mrs. de Lesseps”. She is the perfect housewife, you’re right…even though she has infuriated me at times, she’s got that rich person-totally out of touch and full of her own imagined importance. 

Or when she ordered pizza and gave her last name before adding "Countess."

[Natalie68]

On 4/19/2025 at 4:32 AM, JohnnyU said:

This is a song to fight over being proud of?  Ok I’m officially old.

Just watched the video. Erika looks like an aging lounge singer. Not the flex she thought it was.

[RealHousewife]

1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

Countess Luann lmao all you needed to know about her is how offended she got when Bethany called her by her first time to the driver and she corrected her in loud whispers right in front of him, “umm it’s Mrs. de Lesseps”. She is the perfect housewife, you’re right…even though she has infuriated me at times, she’s got that rich person-totally out of touch and full of her own imagined importance. 

That's exactly it. think Lu makes a great Housewife because as much as she can be out of touch and inappropriate, she is generally charming and seems like she means no harm. 

I don't recall her screaming the c word over and over, threatening to come for someone, manhandling anyone, etc. 

 

[SweetieDarling]

10 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I don't recall her screaming the c word over and over, threatening to come for someone, manhandling anyone, etc. 

Only during her arrest

[RealHousewife]

1 minute ago, SweetieDarling said:

Only during her arrest

I forgot about that! The Countess wasn't very countess-like during that incident, was she?

I still think she is infinitely more likable than the remaining BH bunch. 

[Marley]

Luann can let stuff go too & makes for fun tv. Erika will hold a grudge forever & ruins the show.

[Surrealist]

So, for fun, I want to address the content in these Reddit posts. 

I believe Garcelle and Sutton had an onscreen friendship that turned into a real life friendship. I don't think they were bffs, but they hung out and did things together. 

That said let's assume Garcelle never liked Sutton and only hung out with her because Sutton was "the least objectionable" HW.

What does that say about Garcelle and her judgment when it comes to friends, if everyone else thinks Sutton is the most terrible person alive? There are fans who think Sutton (and Reba) are hardcore racists, and gush about how awesome Garcelle is. But she can't be that awesome if she was friends with Sutton for five years. 

Also, if Garcelle was never really Sutton's friend, and Sutton watched all the episodes like we did, she would've been making mental notes and realizing Garcelle was only half in it with her, so she was under no obligation to give backup to someone who never really liked her. I don't waste my time, energy, and defense on someone who doesn't actually like me.

Having someone's back suggests a real friendship is involved, and not someone you merely tolerate.

Please don't come down too hard, as I'm just theorizing based off these posts. 🤣

I think they were friends. I liked them as friends, and liked them individually. 

 

Edited April 21 by Surrealist

[Salacious Kitty]

I didn't realize there were Garcelle haters, but that's Reddit for ya! 

[RealHousewife]

4 hours ago, Surrealist said:

So, for fun, I want to address the content in these Reddit posts. 

I believe Garcelle and Sutton had an onscreen friendship that turned into a real life friendship. I don't think they were bffs, but they hung out and did things together. 

That said let's assume Garcelle never liked Sutton and only hung out with her because Sutton was "the least objectionable" HW.

What does that say about Garcelle and her judgment when it comes to friends, if everyone else thinks Sutton is the most terrible person alive? There are fans who think Sutton (and Reba) are hardcore racists, and gush about how awesome Garcelle is. But she can't be that awesome if she was friends with Sutton for five years. 

Also, if Garcelle was never really Sutton's friend, and Sutton watched all the episodes like we did, she would've been making mental notes and realizing Garcelle was only half in it with her, so she was under no obligation to give backup to someone who never really liked her. I don't waste my time, energy, and defense on someone who doesn't actually like me.

Having someone's back suggests a real friendship is involved, and not someone you merely tolerate.

Please don't come down too hard, as I'm just theorizing based off these posts. 🤣

I think they were friends. I liked them as friends, and liked them individually. 

 

I agree that it appears Garcelle and Sutton went from work friends to real friends. I don't agree with the people who think Sutton is the "most terrible person alive." I was disappointed in her, but I don't get the vitriol for Sutton. 

I've said this before, but despite being an actress, I think Garcelle is one of the few on the show who doesn't like to ACT like she likes someone when she doesn't, or pretend she believes someone's bs when she doesn't. I know she's had a lot of projects outside of Bravo, and she wants to spend time with her boys before they're out of the house. But I also think not being the type to want to form phony friendships for the show, she's not as cut out for the gig. It's a compliment to her really. The others will pretend to like one another all day long or start fake beefs. 

In my own life, I look for the good in others and am loyal to a fault. I've definitely been hurt when the kindness and loyalty are not reciprocated. I've had much worse experiences than this friendship breakup unfortunately. I like to think my poor judgement doesn't make me a bad person. 

2 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I didn't realize there were Garcelle haters, but that's Reddit for ya! 

lol right! Reddit is a cesspool. I'll check it out sometimes, but I can only take small doses. 

 

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On 4/17/2025 at 2:57 PM, Yours Truly said:

Yeah, but the Tom stuff was actually very important. Sutton was actually doing some heavy lifting ON BEHALF of them all so Garcelle's quiet and brief "yup uh-huh" was also serving HERSELF. It was also VERY understandable that the cast would push for more on this very tricky topic.

Garcelle wanting to push about Morgan. Not that crucial of a thing to "get to the bottom of". Neither with Dorit's robbery. Actually the robbery thing could get sticky so pushing the "set up" narrative really doesn't serve any purpose other than to pick at Dorit. Don't get me wrong, I have no issue coming for Dorit but on that particular topic I wouldn't think it wise. Garcelle is basically accussing someone of something and she may be looking at some real life repercussions. Not worth it at all. 

 

I do wonder if Garcelle pushed about the Morgan stuff because she is still pissed about what the FFF did to Denise and her supposed se life. I, for one, am still pissed on Denise’s behalf.