S14.E18: Reunion Part 1

[Salacious Kitty]

29 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

🤣Love it. 
 

I fear Dorit will be joining the gang of never divorcées with Erika, and they’ll whine and tear their garments every other episode about how wrong their men did them….but they’ll stay legally married and won’t call a forensic accountant because a grifter needs plausible deniability dontcha know!

Poorit couldn't afford a forensic accountant. ErICKa may have some funds squirreled away to find Tom's offshore accounts.

[Keywestclubkid]

I love peacock leaves the F**ks in lol 

[Surrealist]

1 minute ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I love peacock leaves the F**ks in lol 

I wish Bravo would leave them in!

[Surrealist]

6 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

I agree.

I come from a long line of a deep south, rather dramatic family. It's like something out of a Tennessee Williams play. I sheepishly admit that one of my aunts set her own house on fire to collect insurance money. She was never charged and collected a hefty sum. (There was alcohol involved, and this wasn't her first fire, but that's another story.)

Shamefully, another aunt faked Alzheimer's for disability payments. She also got away with it.

Please don't judge me. I know they're nuts/criminals! 

Is your extended family interested in doing their own reality show? 

Erika could join as a "Friend Of."

[hoodooznoodooz]

10 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

I agree.

I come from a long line of a deep south, rather dramatic family. It's like something out of a Tennessee Williams play. I sheepishly admit that one of my aunts set her own house on fire to collect insurance money. She was never charged and collected a hefty sum. (There was alcohol involved, and this wasn't her first fire, but that's another story.)

Shamefully, another aunt faked Alzheimer's for disability payments. She also got away with it.

Please don't judge me. I know they're nuts/criminals! 

Now, YOU are not boring. 🙃

[Surrealist]

7 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Now, YOU are not boring. 🙃

But Erika would probably say she is. 😜

[hoodooznoodooz]

9 hours ago, Yours Truly said:

It just screams cornball to me. LOL. 

Excuse me, Yours Truly, but what do you mean by “cornball” and “corny”? 

[bravofan27]

I think Boz is cool as they come. She's out there, but in a good way.

I think Sutton gets picked on because she's so emotional and aggressive. She has a very hard time keeping her composure and is easily set off.

She seemed very happy to be sitting next to Kyle. 

Garcelle's dress made her boobs look weird.

Boz and Neely or whatever his name is can adopt Dorit. She will keep them busy.

Garcelle and Kyle both seem very suspicious of people and their motives.

 

[hoodooznoodooz]

I like in the final scene, Garcelle’s venting about Erika claiming that she’s boring.

”Because I’m self-made?!? I don’t HAVE a rich husband?!?”

Sutton clarifies, “She doesn’t have a rich husband either.”

Edited Friday at 04:53 PM by hoodooznoodooz

[hoodooznoodooz]

On 4/2/2025 at 9:07 AM, Pi237 said:

Oh, I resent that we don’t get the whole version! What’d we miss? 

Sorry, I no longer have Bravo, so I have nothing to compare it to!

[hoodooznoodooz]

Ronnie and Ben point out how Kyle is crazy inconsistent.

 

She claims to tune out the cameras and to show her raw emotions with Mauricio.

But Kyle also chides Dorit for not remembering the cameras in their cars.

Edited Friday at 04:47 PM by hoodooznoodooz

[Surrealist]

1 hour ago, bravofan27 said:

Boz and Neely or whatever his name is can adopt Dorit. She will keep them busy.

This had me cracking up. 🤣

I agree with you about Sutton's lack of composure in confrontation, and in defending herself. It's something she desperately needs to work on. She needs to learn to take emotion out of arguing, as difficult as that sometimes is to do.

[Yours Truly]

8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Excuse me, Yours Truly, but what do you mean by “cornball” and “corny”? 

Lame.

[Surrealist]

20 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Maybe that coffee table will be the one to have, everyone will want it, it will go viral and will be voted one of TIME magazine's coffee table of the year.

To me it looked like something out of an office lobby, you know the kind, hard to damage, too heavy to steal, not something anyone would go to great trouble to take.

🤣😭

I was hoping that Andy, when Erika asked if it was the same table, would've said, "I mean, you should know, since we let you borrow it for your remodeling scene."

[Sweet-tea]

12 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Now, YOU are not boring. 🙃

Oh, could I tell you stories... there was also an uncle who literally shot himself in the foot (alcohol was involved). They were all on my mother's side of the family. Fortunately, I'm more like my father. 

On 4/1/2025 at 8:23 PM, SweetieDarling said:

Who is Kyle to judge Dorit for calling PJ an alcoholic on tv? 

Oh but don't you realize how wise and kind Kyle is in trying to warn Dorit about her mistake with Kim? Yeah, I'm not buying it either. 

On 4/3/2025 at 6:59 AM, Crazydoxielady said:

Kyles lips have overtaking her entire face, she’s constantly mashing them together, and then holding them in a straight line and mashing them a bit more. If it weren’t so unattractive, it would be funny, but it is kind of funny that she did that to herself and it is so unattractive.

The nose job made a huge difference, didn't it? 

On 4/2/2025 at 10:08 PM, albarino said:

The thing with her friendship with Morgan is that it is really strange.  I'm not talking about any lesbian relationship.  The age difference between these two friends has me scratching my head because Kyle has daughters Morgan's age.  

Is strikes me as a spin on the proverbial male midlife crisis. Morgan probably makes Kyle feel young. 

[Sweet-tea]

On 4/2/2025 at 8:51 PM, Marley said:

Dorit's robbery was totally staged & Dorit needs to realize most ppl think this.

She was protesting too much. She would've been better off not talking about it and giving air time to the rumors. 

On 4/2/2025 at 12:17 PM, Natalie68 said:

Erika Girardi appears objectively to be having money problems.  Finally, it looks like the legal fee gravy train is running dry. 

Why does someone with legal problems spend a bunch of money on a Porsche and redecorating her house? I dont get it. Is she charging everything? 

[hoodooznoodooz]

And Erika bought a house. She is so entitled. She will probably demand that Wilkes find her another benefactor immediately.

[goofygirl]

On 4/3/2025 at 6:59 AM, Crazydoxielady said:

Random reunion musings:

Kyles lips have overtaking her entire face, she’s constantly mashing them together, and then holding them in a straight line and mashing them a bit more. If it weren’t so unattractive, it would be funny, but it is kind of funny that she did that to herself and it is so unattractive. Also, she had to have those two pieces of stupid hair on each side of her face like a teenager . It’s so obvious that she’s trying to literally make herself look like Morgan, between the big lips and the big bushy weird eyebrows. It’s all aging her if anything especially coupled with the extreme thinness now. And it’s funny after years of seeing her and flowing caftans & bad fashion that now she can’t Wear anything that isn’t skin tight. It’s giving “desperate.” I would love to see her fired but know it’s never gonna happen because Andy is up her ass with a meat hook.

I absolutely want to see the downfall of Erica with the new lawsuits so she can come back. She can try to talk her way out of a paper bag all she wants but the lawsuits keep coming and there’s no way in hell she’s going to keep being found innocent. I will put up with her annoying nasal voice, her penchant for latex and slut wear,  and her ongoing excuses just to see her eventual demise. Karma really is a bitch because there’s no way in hell that she is enjoying her life with all of these lawsuits and eventually she is going to have to pay the piper.

I was awfully disappointed in Sutton as she Continues to be Kyle‘s dog. When Kyle said that she didn’t care, Sutton really needs to take that on. There’s no way that she’s ever gonna be part of that mean girl click, she’s not gonna take the place of Teddy in the faux fox five. And she looks really silly Taking Kyle‘s side over Garcelle who has been her ride or die for years. I think back to Augusta and Suttons openly racist mother and it leaves me to wonder how real Suttons fondness for Garcelle ever was real. I wanted to punch my screen when she called Garcelle and Sutton mean girls. Pot/kettle/WTF!?!

I feel bad for Garcellle sitting there in that very heavy dress, unable to use her hands and unable to use any words of reason that anyone will actually listen to. The dress was also not flattering when she walked away, very thick waisted when seen from the side. She is such a beautiful woman, that dress just baffled me.  It did seem like Andy tried to back her up a little bit, questioning the phone with the Dorit robbery nonsense, but she’s literally just hanging out to dry with no one assisting or caring. Who can blame her for quitting. And I really hate seeing the smug face on Boz with all of this. Boz watched prior seasons of the show, and still chose to align herself with a horrible grifter that in a previous season laid into a young black teenager and laughed about it. I’m not sure how or why Boz thought that this was the way to go, but I think that it’s likely that she saw the mean girl club as the most likely way to be kept around, and she did not want to be another 8.5 or ugly leather pant cast member, both of them were quickly ostracized and escorted out for being part of the wrong clique. Boz as usual looked absolutely ridiculous, I’m not sure why she thinks more is more, but this truly does show you that money does not buy you taste or style. I'm sorry, she also looks really really bad without makeup.  I had high hopes for her, but because of who she alined herself with, she is a big no for me. And as usual, I fast forward it through her stupid talk of having a baby at the tender age of 50. Give me a break.

As mentioned above,, Dorit looks absolutely skeletal, but beyond that I just can’t take her smug face. She is a liar. She is a grifter. She is as fake as it comes. She is not a good mother dragging her ex thru the mud. She is not a good friend. She is not a good cast member. She and her fake accent can hit the road, and it frosts  my ass to see her playing with a dog. She doesn’t deserve a dog. The Lucy Lucy Apple Juciey debacle should have canceled her dog card. 
If the cast stays as it is next year minus Garcelle..I’m out. No one can save this shit show, certainly not Rhinna or any other prior mean girls, nor the sort of boring ones.... Only LVP could possibly breath some fresh air back and send shivers up the spine of our favorite faux lesbian and fox four members (which Boz & Sutton are  desperate to be part of which gives me such side eye). This iteration of RHOBH has cooked its last goose with me. I'm out. 

Goodness!  Is this Kyle at the beginning?? Wowza.

[Natalie68]

2 hours ago, Sweet-tea said:

She was protesting too much. She would've been better off not talking about it and giving air time to the rumors. 

Why does someone with legal problems spend a bunch of money on a Porsche and redecorating her house? I dont get it. Is she charging everything? 

I think Tom moved money to the other old guy (Vegas guy) and that is how Erika has been living her current life.  Bought her new house, ozempic, etc.

[Chatty Cake]

19 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I love peacock leaves the F**ks in lol 

I liked that Sutton corrected Garcelle that Erika doesn’t have a rich husband. LOL you’re right about that Sutton.

But yes, tell her Garcelle! 

[Surrealist]

I can't believe we have two more Reunion episodes to slog through.

This forum is going to be a mess. 🤣

[ButterQueen]

I have but one question….did Erika get to keep the earrings?  👽

[heatherchandler]

 

On 4/2/2025 at 7:53 AM, njbchlover said:

 

I noticed, however, that Andy didn't ask the other ladies who did their dresses.  I feel like Andy sometimes knows certain things and brings up these innocuous questions to throw a little shade at whomever he chooses.  

Andy can be so bitchy!  I hope he did do that on purpose.

 

On 4/2/2025 at 12:17 PM, Natalie68 said:

From Ronald Richards:

Erika Girardi appears objectively to be having money problems.  Finally, it looks like the legal fee gravy train is running dry.   We base this on the following:  Erika Girardi did not file a reply brief for her appeal of the denial of her motion to dismiss the Christopher Psaila complaint in the 9th Circuit.  This never happens.  Second, as reported earlier, she is facing an imminent default in Florida.  An extension was granted for her reply brief as you see below, but then Evan Borges never filed one.  We reached out to her attorney to ask him if there was anything going on other than the obvious reason, he is not being paid.  @erikajayne The response was crickets.  The multiple legal actions and the price tag have now caught up with her.  The lawsuit benefactor well looks like it is becoming dry. 
ORDER FILED. The motion (Docket Entry No. 30) for an extension of time to file the reply brief is  granted. The optional reply brief is due February 18, 2025.  To facilitate timely submission of cases for decision, no further motions for extensions of time to file the  reply brief will be granted absent extraordinary and compelling circumstances. If the reply brief is not  filed by February 18, 2025, the case may be submitted on the briefs already on file. [Entered:  

Wait- so does that 2nd paragraph mean that she did file?  I hope not, I love the idea that she is too poor to fight.
 

On 4/2/2025 at 1:27 PM, Stats Queen said:

When they went to the Villa in France when the wildfires hit and Camille lost her home and Denise’s was badly damaged. They weren’t on the trip as a result.

The Fox Force Five is Mia Wallace’s tv show from Pulp Fiction.  I don’t understand why these idiots think they can call themselves that, or that they are foxy or a force to be reckoned with.
 

 

 

On 4/2/2025 at 1:44 PM, njbchlover said:

 

I'm still convinced that Erika didn't pay a penny for that update.  Martyn Laurence Bullard used this show to promote himself.  There were rumors a couple of months ago (posted somewhere here) that Erika had purchased a home.  If she did, why would she go to the personal expense of remodeling/updating a rental that she would soon be moving from?  Why not use that money to do some updates to her new home? 

 

I hope that Erika did buy a house and I hope that they are able to take it from her when she is taken down in court.  I hate her.

Edited Saturday at 12:48 AM by heatherchandler

[Pattycake2]

I think Sutton’s reunion dress is terrific,  it’s basically two triangles which creates the illusion of a waist (which Sutton doesn’t have), hips (which Sutton doesn’t have) and a bust (which Sutton doesn’t have.). Any tighter on top and there would have to be some kind of puffed or elevated sleeve to achieve the same effect.

[Mindthinkr]

On 4/2/2025 at 1:01 PM, Sweet-tea said:

Yep. And she gets away with it because she's Andy's favorite. 

I’m positive that she has some deep dirt on Andy. That’s why he always supports her and keeps her (and to an extent her sister) on this show. He’s afraid if he doesn’t meet her terms and lets her go, then she will let her mouth go.That may really tarnish or end his career. He may be a little afraid of her. Why else would he be so complacent about the Morgan stuff, letting her control what is filmed (or edited) about her storylines and never mention Kim anymore? 
 

[SemiCharmedLife]

On 4/2/2025 at 11:22 PM, Surrealist said:

Erika's so confusing. She literally tells Sutton, on camera, you've apologized to me more than once and we're good.

Two seconds later, she'll be like, "Well, I'm just reminding you of what you said."

Erika is the worst. At last year’s reunion Andy asked her why she was coming after Sutton after they “made up.” Erika proudly announced that she was just “playing her ass.” I wouldn’t trust Erika farther than I could throw her.

[Cosmocrush]

On 4/5/2025 at 8:25 AM, Pattycake2 said:

I think Sutton’s reunion dress is terrific,  it’s basically two triangles which creates the illusion of a waist (which Sutton doesn’t have), hips (which Sutton doesn’t have) and a bust (which Sutton doesn’t have.). Any tighter on top and there would have to be some kind of puffed or elevated sleeve to achieve the same effect.

Yes, for once I liked that dress on Sutton too.  It's a little "prom-y) but still flattering.  

6 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

I’m positive that she (Kyle) has some deep dirt on Andy. That’s why he always supports her and keeps her (and to an extent her sister) on this show. He’s afraid if he doesn’t meet her terms and lets her go, then she will let her mouth go.That may really tarnish or end his career. He may be a little afraid of her. Why else would he be so complacent about the Morgan stuff, letting her control what is filmed (or edited) about her storylines and never mention Kim anymore? 
 

Maybe he just likes her?   He does seem to show her respect, which Andy doesn't show many of the other women.  She is the only original BH cast member still on this show too, so they go way back. 

[Yours Truly]

OMG when I first watched the episode I was half watching because I was cooking in the kitchen and going back and forth from the living room to the kitchen so I really can't believe I missed the part where Garcelle actually blew Suttons spot about what she said about Kyle making chess moves. Why would you do that to your so-called friend? You think that that's the same type of thing as her just not backing you when going after Kyle like who does that?

A true friend doesn't all of a sudden decide that they're gonna now throw you under the bus in front of the people who always mistreat you just because you're annoyed by one decision you’re friend made that wasn’t’ even all that bad. She decided NOT to harass Kyle about Morgan. Did she really think that her aggravation over that was enough justification to pull such a dick move? This is what I mean about Garcelle. She sits back and watches at the oddest time, and she never fully goes in when defending Sutton and when she’s actually said more than two sentences to defend Sutton she sounds pained.  She showed her ass on the reunion by pointing out what Sutton deliberately.

Poor Sutton, she really doesn’t know how to check a bitch. Maybe not on the couch but in the dressing room I would have definitely said something to her! Like, “Garcelle, what the fuck was that? Did you really need to share with Kyle what WE talked about?” There’s no explanation for that other than “Yeah, Sutton I didn’t feel comfortable taking all the heat about Morgan and since you didn’t back me up I’m just gonna make SURE Kyle knows what YOU said too”. I mean, how fucking childish is that??? Garcelle went with that approach, I don’t think Sutton ever signed on to push the issue about Morgan. Which means Garcelle not only disregarded Kyle’s wishes, she disregarded Sutton too.

Garcelle is such a great friend yeah, OK. The minute she started feeling stupid and shamed for trying to go after Kyle like a mean girl (I think the FFF are mean girls, however in that moment there was actually a good argument to be made that Garcelle was acting petty) she panicked and offered up her friend as a sacrificial lamb to a) deflect and b) show that she wasn’t the only one who felt that way, hence making her seem less guilty of just being a bitch.

 My mouth dropped wide open when Garcelle shared that piece of information. She gave Sutton no other option BUT to defend herself which made Garcelle look even worse. Just because Sutton has an opinion with the way Kyle moves doesn’t mean that’s green light for you to pick at her with Suttons full support. I think Garcelle went rogue EXPECTING Sutton to stick her neck out which I find absolutely childish and unnecessary.

[Surrealist]

9 hours ago, Yours Truly said:

OMG when I first watched the episode I was half watching because I was cooking in the kitchen and going back and forth from the living room to the kitchen so I really can't believe I missed the part where Garcelle actually blew Suttons spot about what she said about Kyle making chess moves. Why would you do that to your so-called friend? You think that that's the same type of thing as her just not backing you when going after Kyle like who does that?

A true friend doesn't all of a sudden decide that they're gonna now throw you under the bus in front of the people who always mistreat you just because you're annoyed by one decision you’re friend made that wasn’t’ even all that bad. She decided NOT to harass Kyle about Morgan. Did she really think that her aggravation over that was enough justification to pull such a dick move? This is what I mean about Garcelle. She sits back and watches at the oddest time, and she never fully goes in when defending Sutton and when she’s actually said more than two sentences to defend Sutton she sounds pained.  She showed her ass on the reunion by pointing out what Sutton deliberately.

Poor Sutton, she really doesn’t know how to check a bitch. Maybe not on the couch but in the dressing room I would have definitely said something to her! Like, “Garcelle, what the fuck was that? Did you really need to share with Kyle what WE talked about?” There’s no explanation for that other than “Yeah, Sutton I didn’t feel comfortable taking all the heat about Morgan and since you didn’t back me up I’m just gonna make SURE Kyle knows what YOU said too”. I mean, how fucking childish is that??? Garcelle went with that approach, I don’t think Sutton ever signed on to push the issue about Morgan. Which means Garcelle not only disregarded Kyle’s wishes, she disregarded Sutton too.

Garcelle is such a great friend yeah, OK. The minute she started feeling stupid and shamed for trying to go after Kyle like a mean girl (I think the FFF are mean girls, however in that moment there was actually a good argument to be made that Garcelle was acting petty) she panicked and offered up her friend as a sacrificial lamb to a) deflect and b) show that she wasn’t the only one who felt that way, hence making her seem less guilty of just being a bitch.

 My mouth dropped wide open when Garcelle shared that piece of information. She gave Sutton no other option BUT to defend herself which made Garcelle look even worse. Just because Sutton has an opinion with the way Kyle moves doesn’t mean that’s green light for you to pick at her with Suttons full support. I think Garcelle went rogue EXPECTING Sutton to stick her neck out which I find absolutely childish and unnecessary.

I can't believe you missed that moment in your first watch. I clocked it right away. 😂

I understand where Garcelle is coming from, and it's super frustrating that Kyle gets to decide what she will, and will not, show on camera. But everyone else is expected to be entirely open and honest about their lives.

If I were Garcelle, I would've directed my anger at Andy and the producers for letting Kyle get away with whatever she wants on the show. Sutton isn't responsible for what Kyle does. Neither are any of the other ladies. 

Garcelle would have had an argument if the ladies randomly decided to pile on her during the Reunion, for any reason.

However, this was about Garcelle being annoyed that Sutton wouldn't stick out her neck again over the Kyle/Morgan relationship.

No friend is obligated to get involved with someone else's takedown. Something like that can have a lot of unnecessary and unforeseen consequences for everyone involved.

Sutton hammered Kyle over that shit last season, so it's not as if she's been cowering in a corner over this the entire time. Sutton took a lot of shit for doing that. I also remember Garcelle chiming in about it.

Others have mentioned past details in this thread, so I won't belabor that stuff again. I'll keep that for discussing tomorrow's second Reunion episode after it's aired. 😉

I'm not going to fully blame Garcelle for bringing up the Kyle/Morgan relationship again this season. Clearly she's frustrated with the hypocrisy when it comes to Kyle.

And frankly, I'm not sure how much the producers were in Garcelle's ear telling her to keep bringing up the matter. I think that's something we're all forgetting is how much producers are involved with pushing the narrative. So that's another reason I'm not fully side eyeing Garcelle. I don't think it was entirely her idea to bring up Kyle and Morgan, and it almost seems like the producers were kind of gunning for Kyle this season. But maybe I'm imagining that.

Kyle is a woman who paraded around a much younger woman who's close to her daughters' ages and admitted to stalking Morgan on IG. She's kept Mau at bay with her midlife crisis and now that he's over it and moved on to dating younger women (and seemingly loving his life), she seems to have some regret. He wasn't going to wait around forever for her to get her shit together, but none of the ladies were allowed to openly address what was going on? Morgan chose to be on last season.

I don't know.

That whole thing is weird to me, but it's none of my business, and it seems that, ultimately Sutton felt the same way, which is why she opted not to bring it up again at the Reunion. I don't think it's because she wants Kyle to be her BFF. At this point, Sutton's heard Kyle say TWICE that she doesn't give a shit about her, so I imagine Sutton's got other ideas.

I wasn't cool with Garcelle outing Sutton onstage over the Morgan shit. That has nothing to do with her, and Kyle isn't going to budge any further with talking about Morgan on camera, so it seems like a waste of energy to keep picking at it. 

Personally, I think Kyle needs to move on from the show and go live her life. Technically, she doesn't need the money either, and she's been an actress for decades. So, I imagine she can get more acting jobs.

Edited Monday at 11:08 PM by Surrealist

[Yours Truly]

2 hours ago, Surrealist said:

 

1. No friend is obligated to get involved with someone else's takedown. Something like that can have a lot of unnecessary and unforeseen consequences for everyone involved.

2. Sutton hammered Kyle over that shit last season, so it's not as if she's been cowering in a corner over this the entire time. Sutton took a lot of shit for doing that last season. I remember Garcelle chiming in about it, but I don't remember much else from last season.

3. And frankly, I'm not sure how much the producers were in Garcelle's ear telling her to keep bringing up the matter. I think that's something we're all forgetting is how much producers are involved with pushing the narrative. So that's another reason I'm not fully side eyeing Garcelle. I don't think it was entirely her idea to bring up Kyle and Morgan, and it almost seems like the producers were kind of gunning for Kyle this season. But maybe I'm imagining that.

 

 

1. Exactly!!!

2. And Sutton did it with her chest with or without the support of others not to mention she got shit for it too.

3. I don't mind Garcelle pushing ala producer influence but it's a stupid hill to die on and it was already done last season. Me thinks the PTB agrees with my take on Garcelle in that she's stays out of the fray too much. Again, admirable however there are actually relevant opportunities for her to get in, be animated enough so that the producers don't saddle her with this corny shit that ends up being an issue between her and Sutton. There have been plenty of opportunities for her to legitimately sink her teeth into a number of these ladies but she's never really went all the way in on anything. Restraint is a good thing but not for reality TV.

Garcelle's whole, well she was on the show last season so she should be fair game. Um, not at all my dear. I get wanting to be able to get drama in but if someone who IS no longer with the show or appearing on the show has asked not to be spoken about then I think that's really fair.

Showing up to film with her friend on ocassion isn't the same as being a friend of or being a full time wife. To say that Morgan doesn't have the right to ask Kyle not to speak about her is a pretty shitty take to have on the situation. Kyle deciding to NOT risk her friendship with Morgan is well within her own authority regardless of the show. Honestly, that was yet ANOTHER strike against Garcelle.

I get that Garcelle is NOT a fan of Kyles but to just plain ole' completely disregard the fact that Morgan doesn't want to be spoken about is kinda mean. Yes, Kyle should have to XYZ but at the same time ANY cast member should have the right to draw a line in the sand about abiding by someone's wishes. It's one thing when housewives try to omit their husbands or long term boyfriends from filming cause one the franchises gave an ultimatum about not hiding their day to day life from filming and a live in or constantly around partner is not something they allow you to hide (to a certain degree) but Kyle hanging out with Morgan doesn't really fit those MUST SHOW parameters of the show. At least not enough for them to give Kyle an ultimatum. Sure they probably still want the footage and the potential drama from the topic but it's not enough for them to force Kyle's hand. 

Therefore, Garcelles attempts at bringing that to the forefront made her look desperate, pressed and a bit unlikeable. Especially since she was so ready to get into it with Sutton over it. I think the need to bring it this season and her own misgivings about Sutton and Kyle created a very distasteful recipe for Garcelle's look this season.

I think her frustration with the show and not coming back stems alot from the fact that she finally had to stick her neck out and got the full force of what happens when you put yourself out there and make the women mad and low and behold she just couldn't take the heat. Plain and simple. She's avoided spearheading anything which I'm sure was a very conscious choice but the minute she left her mainly nuetral corner to get in on some of the action (again, probably producer driven) she really wasn't ready. And that's okay, because if your not ready to sting BACK and instead want to stay in the neutral/safe zone ALL OF THE TIME then it's good that she's leaving. I mean she finally decided to try for those 8 minutes on the bull and instead threw her friend under the bull cause she expected Sutton to be the rodeo clown and step right in it's path in order to save Garcell. Nope. Erika was right when she said that Garcelle can have her inquiries and questions minus Sutton. She can still move how she wants without dragging Sutton along.

There have been plenty of times and situations where its absolutely obvious that Garcelle decided to stay out of it cause she either couldn't be bothered or wasn't about to fall on a sword that Sutton brought upon herself. PLENTY. So Garcelle ridiculous reaction to Sutton is a bit irritating. Trying to claim that the times she's spoken up should be enough for Sutton to BLINDLY back Garcelle when we've seen how Garcelle picks and choses when she goes to bat for Sutton and that's HER right. Noone wants to be tarred and feathered for someone else's bad decision and Garcelle has never stuck her neck out THAT far for Sutton where she's backing her over something she completely disagrees with. Sutton shouldn't have to then either.  

I'm not really that sad Garcelle is leaving. She may not have been the strongest ally but she did provide a little (very little) padding for her and for that I'm sorry to see her go. For the most part she turned out to be a disappointment in terms of her potential in handling these other witches! 

 

 

Edited Monday at 09:43 PM by Yours Truly

[Surrealist]

25 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

It's one thing when housewives try to omit their husbands or long term boyfriends from filming cause one the franchises gave an ultimatum about not hiding their day to day life from filming and a live in or constantly around partner is not something they allow you to hide (to a certain degree) but Kyle hanging out with Morgan doesn't really fit those MUST SHOW parameters of the show. At least not enough for them to give Kyle an ultimatum. Sure they probably still want the footage and the potential drama from the topic but it's not enough for them to force Kyle's hand. 

I'm highlighting this because (and don't judge me) on Rinna and Harry Hamlin's podcast, Harry addresses the issue of spouses (i.e. significant others in general) on the show.

Harry brought up the fact that he was grateful to production for letting him have a clause in his contract, in which he only needed to show up for a handful of episodes.

Harry said he had no interest in becoming an actual cast member, but that plenty of the other husbands were more than happy to have as much camera time as possible. He didn't name names, though. 😂

26 minutes ago, Yours Truly said:

Garcelle's whole, well she was on the show last season so she should be fair game. Um, not at all my dear. I get wanting to be able to get drama in but if someone who IS no longer with the show or appearing on the show has asked not to be spoken about then I think that's really fair.

This is kind of similar to the shit the FFF pulled by bringing Brandi back on so that she could claim a sexual relationship with Denise, and then the FFF could use that to take her down.

Edited Monday at 10:00 PM by Surrealist

[Yours Truly]

1 minute ago, Surrealist said:

I'm highlighting this because (and don't judge me) on Rinna and Harry Hamlin's podcast, Harry addresses the issue of spouses (i.e. significant others in general) on the show.

Harry brought up the fact that he was grateful to production for letting him have a clause in his contract, in which he only needed to show up for a handful of episodes.

Harry said he had no interest in becoming an actual cast member, but that plenty of the other husbands were more than happy to have as much camera time as possible. He didn't name names, though. 😂

Exactly. Garcelle acting like there are absolutely NO parameters regarding appearances and involvement is what kinda got under my skin. Her need to go after Kyle at the expense of Morgan showed me a little bit about how cut throat Garcell can be not to mention how she was quick to blast Sutton to Kyle. 

Nah, that's not cool. It's the way she tried to repackage her complete disregard for A) Morgans wishes B)Kyle's wishes to respect Morgan and C)Suttons compliance with Kyle's decision as "well it's different if Morgan WASN'T on the show last season, but she was so it should be open season". She really lost me with that ridiculous logic. Girl you trying to stir up drama and it didn't work. Let it go. Well then again I guess she did cause she let the whole show go. LOL. 

 

[Surrealist]

5 hours ago, Yours Truly said:

Exactly. Garcelle acting like there are absolutely NO parameters regarding appearances and involvement is what kinda got under my skin. Her need to go after Kyle at the expense of Morgan showed me a little bit about how cut throat Garcell can be not to mention how she was quick to blast Sutton to Kyle. 

Nah, that's not cool. It's the way she tried to repackage her complete disregard for A) Morgans wishes B)Kyle's wishes to respect Morgan and C)Suttons compliance with Kyle's decision as "well it's different if Morgan WASN'T on the show last season, but she was so it should be open season". She really lost me with that ridiculous logic. Girl you trying to stir up drama and it didn't work. Let it go. Well then again I guess she did cause she let the whole show go. LOL. 

 

I have a mild conspiracy theory floating around my head, based off what we've been saying here. 

*puts on tinfoil hat*

I'm starting to wonder if producers wanted to go after Kyle (and drive her off the show), but through Garcelle, and that's why Garcelle was harping on the Morgan crap. 

But . . . 

Maybe producers were also setting up Garcelle for a fall as well in having her be "their voice" on the show.

Look at drama it did stir up!

I know there are fans who swear that some HWs are producer/Andy favorites, and they'll never be fired from the show, but I'm not so sure about that. 

They literally got rid of all the OG RHONY women and rebooted that franchise. A lot of those OGs are still fan favorites for their messiness onscreen, and yet they're out there peddling their having been on a HWs show so that they can still make money off their notoriety.

RHOBH has, basically, in my opinion, hit a wall at this point. I'm not sure what's left for the current HWs. They're all kind of boring now, and the only thing keeping this franchise chugging along are the staged bullshit fights that get even nastier with each passing season. Generally speaking, I think most fans are tired of the argument retreads that never die, let alone get anywhere close to a resolution.

I can see producers mulling the possibility of rebooting this franchise too. They'll start by driving HWs off the show, instead of outright firing them. 

*removes tinfoil hat*

Edited Yest. at 03:08 AM by Surrealist

[Cosmocrush]

3 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I have a mild conspiracy theory floating around my head, based off what we've been saying here. 

*puts on tinfoil hat*

I'm starting to wonder if producers wanted to go after Kyle (and drive her off the show), but through Garcelle, and that's why Garcelle was harping on the Morgan crap. 

But . . . 

Maybe producers were also setting up Garcelle for a fall as well in having her be "their voice" on the show.

Look at drama it did stir up!

I know there are fans who swear that some HWs are producer/Andy favorites, and they'll never be fired from the show, but I'm not so sure about that. 

They literally got rid of all the OG RHONY women and rebooted that franchise. A lot of those OGs are still fan favorites for their messiness onscreen, and yet they're out there peddling having been on a HWs show so that they can still make money off their notoriety.

RHOBH has, basically, in my opinion, hit a wall at this point. I'm not sure what's left for the current HWs. They're all kind of boring at this point, and the only thing keeping this franchise chugging along are the staged bullshit fights that get even nastier with each passing season. Generally speaking, I think most fans are tired of the argument retreads that never die, let alone get anywhere close to a resolution of sorts.

I can see producers mulling the possibility of rebooting this franchise too. They'll start by driving HWs off the show, instead of outright firing them. 

*removes tinfoil hat*

Interesting theory and you make a good point about OG RHONY.  However, I quit watching when they did that.  I always thought that decision was more about demographics [looking for younger viewers so they cast younger women] but hey, I got older just they did and that includes RHOBH and Kyle. 

I still like this show and I'd hate for them to reboot. 

Regarding Garcelle and producer pressure, I have a hard time believing she would let a producer influence her that much but of course it could happen.  Still, Garcelle has always been a pot stirrer, which I didn't mind and also attributed to her keeping the focus off herself.  Kind of a smart move really. 

I will miss Garcelle, just like I missed LVP,  Eileen and even Camille because they entertained me in various ways. 

 

[Surrealist]

27 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

Interesting theory and you make a good point about OG RHONY.  However, I quit watching when they did that.  I always thought that decision was more about demographics [looking for younger viewers so they cast younger women] but hey, I got older just they did and that includes RHOBH and Kyle. 

I still like this show and I'd hate for them to reboot. 

Regarding Garcelle and producer pressure, I have a hard time believing she would let a producer influence her that much but of course it could happen.  Still, Garcelle has always been a pot stirrer, which I didn't mind and also attributed to her keeping the focus off herself.  Kind of a smart move really. 

I will miss Garcelle, just like I missed LVP,  Eileen and even Camille because they entertained me in various ways. 

 

As far as RHOBH goes, I think the HW who best maintained control of her emotions while taking others to task for being shits (like Brandi & Kim) is Eileen Davidson. 

I know people thought she was boring, but she was so even keel during arguments. Truly a sight to behold.  

Eileen's brand of conflict management is goals for me. 😂

Edited Yest. at 03:40 AM by Surrealist

[dmeets]

Plus "Beast?!? How dare you?" was one of the truly iconic lines from the show.

[Surrealist]

44 minutes ago, dmeets said:

Plus "Beast?!? How dare you?" was one of the truly iconic lines from the show.

Edited Yest. at 07:10 AM by Surrealist

[JAYJAY1979]

Garcelle couldn't handle being called out on her comments...and she couldn't pull the race card with Boz.