chitowngirl February 27 Share February 27 While investigating the death of a wealthy real estate developer, Elsbeth is led to the last person to see him alive, a lifestyle consultant named Chloe who is usually found on the arms of residents of New York City's Billionaires' Row. Airdate February 27, 2025 on CBS Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/
AnimeMania February 28 Share February 28 Victoria Clark as Deborah Jordan Braeden De La Garza as Det. Rivers Jordana Brewster as Chloe Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8593351
ItCouldBeWorse February 28 Share February 28 (edited) Det. Rivers was cartoonishly over-the-top. It was nice to see Elsbeth aassert herself multiple times with him, even before she invoked her actual reason for being at the police department. Jordana Brewster as Chloe was very good; although I figured out that she had administered the fatal dose at the victim's request, I though it was to spare him the embarrassment of the trial. I thought it was a little strange that on Elizabeth's first visit to Chloe, she was allowed to overlap with her next client; you'd think she'd be more discreet, but maybe she knew the client wouldn't care. So the wife got financial control, but the architect husband had hidden away enough money to buy a 10 million dollar Cezanne? Kaya will need a new wardrobe once she becomes a detective. I wonder if she'll go shopping with Elsbeth. Edited February 28 by ItCouldBeWorse 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8593598
EtheltoTillie February 28 Share February 28 The plot was confusing to me, but I enjoyed drifting along. There is no such thing as having someone declared "medically incompetent" in New York. They created their own shorthand for a couple of possible procedures that do exist. This is annoying to me. 5 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8594099
kaygeeret March 1 Share March 1 The 'new' detective was cartoonish, and I don't mean in a good way. I hope his time is done. Spend a bit more time with the officer who is 'overseeing' them and appears to be on the spectrum. He is interesting and has shown some interesting moments recently. I do want to see Kaya in her new role, BUT I do not want her to go away to a new district 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8594263
PokerDot March 1 Share March 1 18 hours ago, ItCouldBeWorse said: I wonder if she'll go shopping with Elsbeth. Oh, I hope not. 2 hours ago, kaygeeret said: The 'new' detective was cartoonish, and I don't mean in a good way. I think Elsbeth is a bit cartoonish, too. 6 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8594425
DearEvette March 1 Share March 1 This episode felt very odd to me. It felt very ... I dunno... enthralled with the Chloe of it all. She was just so very glamorous and chic and rich and every man wanted her. Heck, Elsbeth was almost apologetic to her for having to arrest her because she cried before helping the guy kill himself and framing his wife. Meanwhile, I thought the wife got a raw deal. It isn't as if she were a trophy wife who married him for his money. She said she was the one that put him through school. It just felt weird that the writing seemed so sympathetic toward Chloe because she loved a selfish asshole. But felt kinda judgemental and dismissive toward the wife because she was apparently trying to stop him from ruining them. Just felt weird. And then on top of that we had the most incompetent, buffoon character of a "detective." Yeah, I get that he is a nepo baby, but even so he was just over the top bad. Yeah, this one was a dud for me. 19 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8594499
Driad March 1 Share March 1 Did Elsbeth pay Chloe for her time? Or did she not have to because they later arrested her? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8594524
sempervivum March 1 Share March 1 The only thing I enjoyed was Chloe's elegant wardrobe- that brown velvet pantsuit... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8594749
kaygeeret March 2 Share March 2 Quote Quote I can't seem to make the quote work for me..... This is in response to Pokerdot saying..."I think Elsbeth is a bit cartoonish too" I agree Pokerdot, but I find her cartoonish stuff funny while I found the new detective to be an over the top stereotype. Basically we are not far apart. .. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8595058
AD35 March 2 Share March 2 Did anyone notice that as soon as it was mentioned that the building swayed that when the show's title came up there was a swaying building? A not-quite-so-subtle reference to what was just said. 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8595659
PokerDot March 3 Share March 3 I did, and wondered if it had always been that way. On 3/1/2025 at 6:17 PM, kaygeeret said: I agree Pokerdot, but I find her cartoonish stuff funny while I found the new detective to be an over the top stereotype. Her schtick is more original; I know what you mean. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8595799
Check Sanity March 3 Share March 3 On 2/28/2025 at 11:58 PM, DearEvette said: Meanwhile, I thought the wife got a raw deal. It isn't as if she were a trophy wife who married him for his money. She said she was the one that put him through school. It just felt weird that the writing seemed so sympathetic toward Chloe because she loved a selfish asshole. But felt kinda judgemental and dismissive toward the wife because she was apparently trying to stop him from ruining them. I didn't feel like the show itself gave the wife a raw deal. Elsbeth and Kaya were both protective of her at the crime scene while Nepo Detective was being obnoxious. The Captain also sent in Elsbeth when he could, to replace Nepo Detective from further scaring and questioning her. The show did spend more time with Chloe, but I think that was in part due to the uphill battle of getting the audience to look past the escort aspect of the character to actually sympathize, if not empathize with the Chloe as a human being. The show did a decent job of "showing, not telling" that Chloe was charismatic and enthralling enough to pull off everything described--including the fact that she deeply cared about the man she euthanized. I quite enjoyed the Captain's reading of the poem, it even got me a bit teary. Chloe's comment that in another life they might have been friends made me realize that it's been awhile since Elsbeth's befriended the killer--most have been annoyed and feigned politesse. Add that to the changes this season, like no women as the murder victims. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8596431
ItCouldBeWorse March 3 Share March 3 Did anyone notice the blatant product placement for Izze when Elsbeth was interviewing the wife at the precinct? Luckily, Elsbeth really wanted the mango flavor! https://www.izze.com/ 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8596625
laredhead March 3 Share March 3 12 hours ago, Check Sanity said: I quite enjoyed the Captain's reading of the poem, it even got me a bit teary. Wendell Pierce was on The Late Night Show (Colbert) last week, and recited some lines from Shakespeare. He has a varied career history on stage and TV. As for the building problems, I recently read an article about a chef who works in a building just like the one on Elsbeth, and it might have been the model for it. The article stated that many nights there are just a few people (if any) in the building's exclusive resident only restaurant, and that a high percentage of owners were from foreign countries, and had never lived in the building. I'm sure the views are spectacular, but I'm not sure I want to live that high off the ground. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8596787
ofmd March 4 Share March 4 Keeping on the new detective might well turn me away from this show, particularly if Kaya does actually leave, as her final scene suggested. Her friendship with Elsbeth is one of the best things about the show. New smartass detective, otoh, was just annoying. And not in an entertaining way. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8597748
chitowngirl March 4 Author Share March 4 On 3/3/2025 at 1:35 AM, ItCouldBeWorse said: Did anyone notice the blatant product placement for Izze when Elsbeth was interviewing the wife at the precinct? Luckily, Elsbeth really wanted the mango flavor! https://www.izze.com/ If you ever watched Psych, they did real blatant product placement! 😆 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8597770
sugarbaker design March 4 Share March 4 I'm praying Elsbeth and company are investigating Det. Rivers's murder next week. 🤞 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8597775
Driad March 4 Share March 4 46 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said: I'm praying Elsbeth and company are investigating Det. Rivers's murder next week. "There are eight million suspects in the Naked City..." [for anyone who has heard of the 1958-1963 TV series] 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8597802
KristenR March 5 Share March 5 9 hours ago, ofmd said: Keeping on the new detective might well turn me away from this show, particularly if Kaya does actually leave, as her final scene suggested. See I am afraid that this guy is going to be the new reason she doesn't get promoted. Since his father is the Chief of Detectives. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8598185
shapeshifter March 5 Share March 5 (edited) 16 hours ago, KristenR said: See I am afraid that this guy is going to be the new reason she doesn't get promoted. Since his father is the Chief of Detectives. If Elsbeth Kaya doesn't get promoted, it will be plot contrivance to keep the setting and other main characters. But I'm guessing the young nepo ne're-do-well is going to learn from Elsbeth and move on to be a good guy elsewhere. Edited March 5 by shapeshifter 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8598520
Yeah No March 5 Share March 5 On 3/3/2025 at 10:33 AM, laredhead said: As for the building problems, I recently read an article about a chef who works in a building just like the one on Elsbeth, and it might have been the model for it. The article stated that many nights there are just a few people (if any) in the building's exclusive resident only restaurant, and that a high percentage of owners were from foreign countries, and had never lived in the building. I'm sure the views are spectacular, but I'm not sure I want to live that high off the ground. I'm sure I read an article a while back on all the problems associated with buildings like that one in the NYT and it addressed some of the same issues and tenant complaints as presented in this episode. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8598629
AnimeMania March 5 Share March 5 2 hours ago, shapeshifter said: 16 hours ago, KristenR said: See I am afraid that this guy is going to be the new reason she doesn't get promoted. Since his father is the Chief of Detectives. If Elsbeth doesn't get promoted, it will be plot contrivance to keep the setting and other main characters. But I'm guessing the young nepo ne're-do-well is going to learn from Elsbeth and move on to be a good guy elsewhere. I believe the person they were referring to not being promoted is Kaya. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8598651
ofmd Saturday at 10:01 AM Share Saturday at 10:01 AM On 3/5/2025 at 6:53 PM, shapeshifter said: But I'm guessing the young nepo ne're-do-well is going to learn from Elsbeth and move on to be a good guy elsewhere. Oh, I'm sure his becoming better is his intended storyline. 'Elsewhere' being the operative word for me, lol. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8601505
TheOtherOne Sunday at 12:55 AM Share Sunday at 12:55 AM On 3/4/2025 at 3:33 AM, laredhead said: As for the building problems, I recently read an article about a chef who works in a building just like the one on Elsbeth, and it might have been the model for it. The article stated that many nights there are just a few people (if any) in the building's exclusive resident only restaurant, and that a high percentage of owners were from foreign countries, and had never lived in the building. I'm sure the views are spectacular, but I'm not sure I want to live that high off the ground. I immediately thought of the same article (or maybe it's just a similar one on a chef working in an exclusive high-rise restaurant that's usually empty) from the NYT a few months back. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/22/nyregion/condo-tower-restaurants.html 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152118-s02e13-tearjerker/#findComment-8601982
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