Beyond the Gates: Daily Episode Discussion

[Kerri]

I'm a few eps behind but Sharon seems like a bitch, regardless of what happened with Barbara.

There is no guarantee that group would've stayed together regardless. If Sharon had gotten the offers Anita did to go solo- I think she would've done the exact same thing. 

Leslie is over the top and everyone chatting with her is dumb but it was the search warrant stuff that bugged me. Have that cop sit her down and take that place apart systematically. Or stand her in the hallway. So unrealistic. Although I'm not done this ep yet.

[Zemiar]

On 6/6/2025 at 3:15 PM, Rodney said:

So Chelsea's new woman of interest is named Madison.  Madison Montgomery.  And she's a doctor!  I wonder why it was so hard to tell Chelsea that?

She's closeted and playing hard to get. I don't see this ending well for Chelsea.

Edited June 8 by Zemiar

[Lois Sandborne]

The Articulettes saga is getting kind of dry. The big Barbara reveal could've been interesting, but they're writing it just like any old Dreamgirls B-plot.

I'm catching up so this might have been a week or two ago, but the family reunion in Bill's hospital room with Hayley on the outs had me weak. Bill is a terrible man, and I kind of like Dani and Andre together, but I will still be there with bells on when Bill and Dani hook up.

5 hours ago, Kerri said:

Leslie is over the top and everyone chatting with her is dumb but it was the search warrant stuff that bugged me. Have that cop sit her down and take that place apart systematically. Or stand her in the hallway. So unrealistic.

This really got on my nerves. I know it's a soap opera. But that was a lot. Especially since Leslie has been wilding and generally getting away with everything. Even though we know Jacob wasn't going to find anything, I would've at least liked to see somebody sit her down for once.

[Badsamaritan]

12 hours ago, Lois Sandborne said:

This really got on my nerves. I know it's a soap opera. But that was a lot. Especially since Leslie has been wilding and generally getting away with everything. Even though we know Jacob wasn't going to find anything, I would've at least liked to see somebody sit her down for once.

This is the part that's really bugging me, that they're letting Leslie just run through unchecked. She hasn't shown any fear of being discovered or afraid the police could find something. She's becoming one of those untouchable Big Bads that primetime shows have that loom across seasons and are smarter and better at evil than any of the good guys. I hate those kinds of characters because you have to make every single character around them into an idiot. Case in point - Leslie running around in everybody's face and they just keep giving her info when by rights, they should tell her to get bent and then call the cops to arrest her for harassment. When she showed up in the hospital using a fake French accent, Shanice should've immediately called security and we should've seen Leslie get strong armed up outta there. 

As I've said, I know the character is probably a blast to write for, and the actress is great and looks like she's having a ball. But characters like this need an expiration date precisely because they're ridiculously over the top. It's all fun and games, until it isn't. 

[Rodney]

8 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

This is the part that's really bugging me, that they're letting Leslie just run through unchecked. She hasn't shown any fear of being discovered or afraid the police could find something. She's becoming one of those untouchable Big Bads that primetime shows have that loom across seasons and are smarter and better at evil than any of the good guys. I hate those kinds of characters because you have to make every single character around them into an idiot.

I agree, for the most part.  I generally don't mind having "untouchable" Big Bads for a while.  It makes it all the more worthwhile when they're finally brought down.  But they kind of need to be brought down eventually, and not have things take too long to make it happen.  It's why I have such frustration with the way that the writers at Days of our Lives let E.J. and Kristen get away with their crimes for way too long.  I don't want them to do the same thing with Leslie.

Edited June 9 by Rodney

[AnimeMania]

S01.E69: Monday, June 9, 2025
S01.E70 (Canada)
 

[Rodney]

Oh, hi, Caroline!  Haven't seen you in months!  And apparently, quite stereotypically, her last name is Lee.

Nice to see Chelsea show up at the hospital for Bill this time.  Not surprised that Bill tried to bribe his way out.  At least he agreed to the CT scan this time.  But damn.  Naomi and Chelsea not wanting to deal with Hayley?  I felt that.  But they knew that they had to, to know what was wrong with their dad.  Naomi's reluctant hug with Hayley made me titter.  But she was right to tell Hayley that what happened wasn't her fault.  But Dani looming after her arrival . . . eesh.  It was obvious that she didn't want to deal with Hayley.  Dani was right, though, that Bill should've stayed there.

All things aside, it was nice to see Bill's daughters still caring for him in spite of his recent behavior with Hayley.

Chelsea's quiet shock at seeing that Madison is a doctor was a funny moment.  But it turns out that Madison is a fan of Chelsea and has followed her career.  Ans she's a fashion-loving neurologist.  It was polite of her, too, to not indicate that she knew Chelsea due to not knowing whether or not she was out to her family.

Andre and Dani are going to get it on again.  Nice to see Nicole and Dani interact.  But Andre and Dani had to hide things from Nicole just in time.

Derek and Andre's scenes were okay.  I liked Derek's confusion over Leslie still walking around free.  I did like that they both agreed that Leslie's dangerous, especially after each of their run-ins with her.  Derek was also smart to go to Jacob with his concerns about Leslie.  Now he has a vested interest in her going down because she came after Ashley, so that makes sense.

Ashley and Andre . . . still don't care.  But sheesh.  Her spiel about Dani, Bill, and Hayley were very clearly meant to mirror what Andre's feelings for her while she's with Derek.

I think that Eva was being truthful with Nicole.  At least about the Laura stuff.  But I don't blame Nicole for having suspicions after Leslie's intrusion in her life.  But she's right that Eva's not immune to Leslie.  Interesting to hear that Eva still won't give Leslie up.  Interesting . . . and frustrating.  But I appreciated Eva trying to urge Nicole to forgive Ted.  And I appreciated even more that Nicole forgave Eva, even if she hasn't yet forgiven Ted.

Kat showing up at Leslie's took a lot of ovaries, but her trying to trick Leslie into a false sense of security was admittedly smart.  Too bad for her that Leslie saw right through it.  But what business does Leslie have with Tomas?! . . . Oh!  She wants him to be her fixer like Bill was to the Duprees?!  I'm glad that Tomas turned her down, because there's no way that he should work against Kat.

Derek and Jacob putting pressure on Leslie was nice.  Derek works so much better in scenes with Jacob.

So Kat stole the evidence to put it back in Leslie's place, into which she snuck because she unlocked the windows while she was visiting her.  Maybe she should've had a lookout, though, in case Leslie came back.  She got lucky that no one did.  And she found a logical way around the "illegally obtained evidence" by making Jacob think that Leslie had taken them out.

Leslie and Eva's confrontation was tense.  But I praise Eva for maintaining her defiance in the need of her mother's demanding attitude.  Too bad she only just found out that the evidence is gone, though she doesn't know that Kat's close to turning the tables on her again.

Great episode.

[drivethroo]

On 6/7/2025 at 2:25 PM, Sake614 said:

When Hayley told Bill she was going to see her stylist, the first thing I thought was ‘wait, you actually have someone who lets you walk out of the store with those clothes? And that person still has a job?’

She told Bill she was going to Tyson's Galleria which is one of the most expensive, if not the most expensive mall in the area. So Hayley is shopping at expensive stores but she doesn't have any taste. Hayley probably has an Instagram stylist and not a real stylist.

On 6/7/2025 at 4:11 PM, Sake614 said:

And trying to fuck him while he’s supposedly working. 

That's her job.

On 6/7/2025 at 11:22 PM, Irlandesa said:

I don't know why Joey slept with Vanessa.

Joey is attracted to Vanessa and I think he wants Doug out of the way (one way or the other). 

On 6/8/2025 at 10:06 AM, mbluecpa said:

I do realize that $250K is a lot of money, but Joey had previously described the then-unknown amount as one that would take a near lifetime for Doug to repay.

For most people that would be an unsurmountable sum of money to pay back. Don't forget, Joey is also running up Doug's debt with a bunch of interest. Doug should be able to pay that back but he may have always been bad with money and I feel like his and Vanessa's money has always been separate. 

Plus, Doug KEEPS running up his debt.  He's not stopping and repaying Joey, he keeps running up the tab.

On 6/8/2025 at 1:04 PM, Kerri said:

There is no guarantee that group would've stayed together regardless. If Sharon had gotten the offers Anita did to go solo- I think she would've done the exact same thing. 

The group had a problem with Anita leaving but I also think the group had a problem with how Anita left.  Sounds like Anita was quite nasty and rude.

4 hours ago, Rodney said:

It's why I have such frustration with the way that the writers at Days of our Lives let E.J. and Kristen get away with their crimes for way too long.  I don't want them to do the same thing with Leslie.

Leslie's about to get away with it too because Kit Kat Brat* isn't going to be able to keep her mouth shut and she's going to brag about how the helmet and gloves were in Eva's room, which invites the question ---how did you know that? Which then opens the door to discover how Kat broke in to both Eva and Leslie's places to steal/plant evidence.

Plus while Kate had on gloves when she broke in Leslie's place, she did not have on gloves when she lifted the window.

3 hours ago, Rodney said:

Derek and Jacob putting pressure on Leslie was nice.  Derek works so much better in scenes with Jacob.

This is why it was dumb to have Derek be a firefighter.  Derek should've been one of Jacob's buddies down at the station.

3 hours ago, Rodney said:

And she found a logical way around the "illegally obtained evidence" by making Jacob think that Leslie had taken them out.

Too bad for Kit Kat Brat that evidence is going to get thrown out.

*Colby Muhammad either is getting married very soon or just got married, I wonder if she's taking a honeymoon and Kat will be off screen for a couple of weeks?

[One Tough Cookie]

11 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

But characters like this need an expiration date precisely because they're ridiculously over the top. It's all fun and games, until it isn't. 

Her expiration date was several months ago.  She may have great cheekbones, but she can go now as far as I'm concerned.

 

3 hours ago, Rodney said:

I think that Eva was being truthful with Nicole.  At least about the Laura stuff.  But I don't blame Nicole for having suspicions after Leslie's intrusion in her life.  But she's right that Eva's not immune to Leslie.  Interesting to hear that Eva still won't give Leslie up.  Interesting . . . and frustrating.  But I appreciated Eva trying to urge Nicole to forgive Ted.  And I appreciated even more that Nicole forgave Eva, even if she hasn't yet forgiven Ted

Totally agree.  I don't see Nicole and Eva sitting around having tea, but  I think Nicole will somehow accept the situation.

[Rodney]

29 minutes ago, drivethroo said:

Too bad for Kit Kat Brat that evidence is going to get thrown out.

Not necessarily.  Not if she keeps quiet about how and where she got it.

[Badsamaritan]

5 hours ago, Rodney said:

I agree, for the most part.  I generally don't mind having "untouchable" Big Bads for a while.  It makes it all the more worthwhile when they're finally brought down.  But they kind of need to be brought down eventually, and not have things take too long to make it happen.  It's why I have such frustration with the way that the writers at Days of our Lives let E.J. and Kristen get away with their crimes for way too long.  I don't want them to do the same thing with Leslie.

We already have another Big Bad on canvas, in the form of mobster Joey. But he's actually much more believable and scary to me. I think he slept with Vanessa simply because he figured out he could, and also it would be another way to tie them both to him. He used both their addictions, and had absolutely no problem doing it. I don't want the mob to eat this show like it did General Hospital but the Joey character makes more sense for longer term viability as a Big Bad than the Leslie character, for me at least. She's flat out, all aboard the crazy train and will never have any allies other than her dumb daughter and I'm gonna need her to either go to prison, a mental hospital, or die. Soon. 

Ugh. Why won't Ashley go away? I have yet to find a fan of hers. They certainly don't like her on the Insta and do not hold back lol. I do wish Leslie would take one for the team and go ahead and unalive her before she goes. It would be the perfect reason to send her to the criminally insane hospital. 

I think Nicole is starting to suspect Dani and Andre been doin the horizontal tango. She gave them both a look as Andre tried to make his escape. And I'm very proud of Dani, she said something in encouragement of the wee bairn at Bill's bedside, aw. 🥹😂

And Kat. Ugh. I want better for you than this, girl. She's gonna say something dumb to Eva that will give away that she took the helmet, watch. Maybe she and Eva are twins, they making similar stupid decisions. Eva breaks in and takes the evidence but doesn't turn it over and instead uses it as leverage against her nut bar momma, then Kat steals it from Eva and breaks in to put it back to get rid of said nut bar. I feel like this might be another hint, along the veins of, when everybody was talking about how Kat just 'knew' about Eva all along. I hope this is leading somewhere besides Leslie going free, because all the criming just for criming's sake being shown by these three women is egregious at this point. 

[Sake614]

2 hours ago, Rodney said:

Not if she keeps quiet about how and where she got it.

Sadly I’m with @drivethroo on this. I think it will be too irresistible for Kat to keep quiet. She’s going to be so proud of her ingenuity that she’ll slip up and tell someone. Or a lot of someones.

[Rodney]

2 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Sadly I’m with @drivethroo on this. I think it will be too irresistible for Kat to keep quiet. She’s going to be so proud of her ingenuity that she’ll slip up and tell someone. Or a lot of someones.

Oh, very possible.  And with Kat's personality, it's very probable.  I was just saying that it was a possibility that she'd keep quiet about it.

[ShadowHunter]

All of Fairmont Crest becoming annoyed by Leslie is funny. I liked the stuff with Leslie and Tomas because we never see them interact. I like when characters mix it up. Even Derek and Leslie are entertaining. Ashley was better as well with Bill,Hayley,ect. The problem with Ashley and Derek is them together. Andre and Ashley continue to bore as well. 

Bill was good with his family today. I feel the spark still with him and Dani even though I wish I didn't. I laughed when Bill told Dani they made a good team and we cut to Hayley's stink face lol. 

Kat continues to commit crimes.

I liked the stuff with Nicole and Eva. 

Since Summer is on the horizon I hope we get pool scenes. GH has started with the small shallow pool at the Metro Court lol.

Chelsea is sweet and I know she was distracted with Madison but her dad is sick and she really forgot the water. She lacks awareness.

[AnimeMania]

S01.E70: Tuesday, June 10, 2025
S01.E71 (Canada)

[TiffanyNichelle]

24 minutes ago, ShadowHunter said:

All of Fairmont Crest becoming annoyed by Leslie is funny. I liked the stuff with Leslie and Tomas because we never see them interact. I like when characters mix it up. Even Derek and Leslie are entertaining. Ashley was better as well with Bill,Hayley,ect. The problem with Ashley and Derek is them together. Andre and Ashley continue to bore as well. 

Ashley interacting with all the Hamiltons was one, a good way to show her doing her job and two, if it helped me buy that Ashley has been around this family for a long time because of her friendship with Naomi. When Bill was chiding her to call him Bill and she was firm about sticking to "Mr. Hamilton", I couldn't help but laugh. It could be because she wanted to be professional or because that's probably how it started with Hayley and she wanted no part of that, lol.

I like that the show is occasionally mixing up people to see what works. I don't think they planned on Jacob and Kat teaming up to take down Leslie to spark so well but it did. Speaking of partnering up, whatever happened to Jacob's old partner who was working for Joey? He's disappeared as well as Jacob's dad. 

28 minutes ago, ShadowHunter said:

Since Summer is on the horizon I hope we get pool scenes. GH has started with the small shallow pool at the Metro Court lol.

That country club has to have a pool and Tomas needs to be at it. 

[ShadowHunter]

11 minutes ago, TiffanyNichelle said:

That country club has to have a pool and Tomas needs to be at it. 

Sounds good to me 🙂

[Rodney]

Love Kat, but after six or seven straight episodes, Colby more than earned a break today.

Hayley surprisingly acted like a human being today.  She didn't get possessive over Bill at all.

Bill had excellent scenes with Ashley, Hayley, Chelsea, Dani, Madison, and especially Shanice.  I do like that. The stroke has shaken him enough to review his will.

Andre and Ashley?  Still don't care.

Andre and Dani continue to be hot, though.

Vernon was a great grandfather to get Naomi to see that Bill's stroke was not her fault.  The story of his Uncle Cornelius was heartbreaking.

Tracy finally got over herself, and she got Sharon to do the same.  So the reunion of the Articulettes is on!  Oh!  But Anita has to go back to Chicago to get ready?!  Interesting choice.

Decent episode.

Edited June 12 by Rodney

[One Tough Cookie]

Wel, another shout out to Tide!

[Dream Boy]

8 hours ago, TiffanyNichelle said:

Ashley interacting with all the Hamiltons was one, a good way to show her doing her job and two, if it helped me buy that Ashley has been around this family for a long time because of her friendship with Naomi. When Bill was chiding her to call him Bill and she was firm about sticking to "Mr. Hamilton", I couldn't help but laugh. It could be because she wanted to be professional or because that's probably how it started with Hayley and she wanted no part of that, lol.

This. It's nice to see more interactions like this as it helps flesh out the Ashley/Naomi friendship.

I think Shanice is going to be just what Bill needed lol 

There has to be more to this Articulette drama than they are letting on. Otherwise, it's giving dry.

Another plus? No Leslie today lol 

[Irlandesa]

1 hour ago, Dream Boy said:

There has to be more to this Articulette drama than they are letting on. Otherwise, it's giving dry.

That's sadly what I've been feeling about a lot of stories lately.  I still enjoy this show but every time I think it's setting up something really juicy, the actual reveal is rather lame. 

For instance, I was intrigued by how mysterious Madison was around Chelsea but it turns out she doesn't have a mysterious job.  She's just a doctor who was mysterious because she was surprised a supermodel was into her. 

I get why Dani and Andre might want to keep their relationship behind closed doors if they think they're just hooking up, but the way the soap is playing it makes it seem like a bigger secret than it should be.  Sure, they don't want to be discovered, but it's not like them being found out would destroy families. 

[TiffanyNichelle]

I hope we get a lot of Bill vs Shanice that war could be fun to watch. Here's someone Bill can't run roughshod over! It's great when they mix the cast up and take them out of their usual settings. 

[Badsamaritan]

I'm hoping the Articulettes story is just warming up. Dante Green still needs to make an appearance. And, if he's really the investor for Kat and Chelsea's purse line, they're setting it up so that he will have more involvement than just with the reunion story. Vernon seems to really dislike him so I hope there's more fireworks to come. 

I just try to keep reminding myself that we are less than 90 episodes in. Today's episode is only number 71. In soap opera time, we're basically still in the incubation period. Bold and the Beautiful still has Liam hiding his brain tumor, almost 3 months later. At least BTG has already had Bill's family learn about his health issues and he's not in the hospital with only 3 people knowing why. 

I'm actually looking forward to a year from now, to see who's still on canvas and where the current stories have gone. Will there really be a new 'Baby Hamilton'? Did the reunion happen? Are the Articulettes friends again? What secrets did Dante spill? Is he still the investor? Or did Vernon kill him? Is Bill having an affair and if so, is it with Dani? Is her modeling agency taking off? Is Doug still alive? Or did Joey or Vanessa kill him? Is Vanessa still in bed figuratively and literally with Joey? Are Nicole and Ted back together? Are Kat and Eva twins, separated at birth by Leslie? Did Leslie kill Ashley and take her man? All questions I'm looking forward to finding answers. 😁

[mbluecpa]

Sharon had alluded at one point to wanting to use Anita, and basically have Sharon and Tracy take the spotlight at the reunion and re-jump start their careers. Yesterday’s scenes with Tracy as peace maker seemed to push that aside in favor of them truly making peace, but who knows what they may be hiding.

Anita’s plan to go to Chicago for rehearsals is sudden (bags packed during the commercial break lol). At first I thought Tamara Tunie had an outside project and needed to be off screen for a bit but I couldn’t find anything - maybe Chicago is a way for them to introduce Dante to the canvas?

I liked the scenes in Bill’s hospital room, lots of family and friends dynamics and really enjoyable chemistry among all of them.  Shanice isn’t on a lot but has the ability to liven up any scene she’s in. 

[AnimeMania]

S01.E71: Wednesday, June 11, 2025
S01.E72 (Canada)

[Rodney]

So we only get Anita at the beginning of the episode, and then not again.

So Jacob is finally on the right track thanks to Kat, but there is going to be no warrant for the discovery of the evidence since it wasn't found on the first search.  Is that a common holdup?

So Chelsea and Kat are going to start living together.  Interesting.

Loved seeing Vernon with his daughters, and I like that Nicole and Dani are happy for Anita officially reuniting with the Articulettes.  Nicole and Dani breaking the cups later on was a good bit of amusement.

Chelsea and Madison are kind of nice.  Going to need to see more before I fully decide.

Hayley actually acted like a human being with Bill today.  No possessiveness over him.  Bill and Shanice were a scream.

I don't get what Leslie was so happy about.  The cops are clearly on the right track with her.  So I don't know what about her scenes with Eva got her celebrating at the end.

Good episode.

[drivethroo]

On 6/10/2025 at 2:33 PM, TiffanyNichelle said:

I don't think they planned on Jacob and Kat teaming up to take down Leslie to spark so well but it did.

Naomi needs to watch out.

On 6/10/2025 at 2:33 PM, TiffanyNichelle said:

He's disappeared as well as Jacob's dad. 

Jacob's dad needs to be recast with an older actor.

15 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

Sure, they don't want to be discovered, but it's not like them being found out would destroy families. 

No, it likely wouldn't destroy families but it would be seen as just another scandal of Dani's they have to endure. For one, Andre probably could be Dani's son. We don't know how old Andre is but he's probably closer to the Naomi/Martin age range rather than the Chelsea/Kat age range. Dani is 50, she may feel self conscious about that.

Two, hooking up with her sister's nephew would scandalize the entire family --again it would be looked at as another one of Dani's screwups. Even in today's episode, when Vernon summoned his daughters for a meeting, Dani immediately thought it was about her like "What have I done now?"

15 hours ago, TiffanyNichelle said:

I hope we get a lot of Bill vs Shanice that war could be fun to watch. Here's someone Bill can't run roughshod over!

I think we're now in the phase of the show where the writers are beginning to see who's working and what's working.  Shanice has good chemistry with everyone she's worked with and I'm glad they're giving her more to do.

9 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

Is Doug still alive?

Couple of months ago, I would've said to kill off Doug and keep it moving.  But I actually like Doug and I think he works well with Shanice so I hope they keep him around but not with Vanessa. She needs to kick him to the curb for running up a $250K debt and leaving HER to deal with his mess.

8 hours ago, mbluecpa said:

maybe Chicago is a way for them to introduce Dante to the canvas?

I find it curious Anita, Sharon and Tracy are all from Chicago and that's where Leslie fled to and raised Eva after being run out of town.  What if Barbara got pregnant by Dante Green, he refused to take care of the baby and kicked her out of the group*, Anita sided with him she was scratching and surviving, trying to stay out of the chow line and Barbara's pregnancy could've ruined the group's chances? Barbara struggled with the pregnancy/baby and decided to end it all and Anita felt guilty and gave Barbara's family the money to help support the child (Leslie)?  Or Leslie could be Sharon's daughter...by Dante Green.  We don't know Leslie's maiden name.

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

So Jacob is finally on the right track thanks to Kat, but there is going to be no warrant for the discovery of the evidence since it wasn't found on the first search.  Is that a common holdup?

Jacob got the warrant for the second search but couldn't get the warrant to obtain Leslie's DNA and without Leslie's DNA tying her to Laura's crash scene, they have nothing. Of course Leslie's DNA would be on the helmet/gloves...that proves nothing.

Jacob got suspicious about the helmet magically appearing at the apartment after they searched the first time even though the reason he decided to search was because Kat suggested Leslie had put the helmet back after the search.

Note: Kat blaming Eva for putting the helmet back in Leslie's apartment.

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

So I don't know what about her scenes with Eva got her celebrating at the end.

Because she thinks she's got Eva back under her thumb.

I'm waiting for Leslie to put 2 and 2 together and realize Kat had something to do with the helmet reappearing in her apartment.

[Norasuke]

We saw Eva realize the helmet and gloves were no longer under her bed, right? But we really didn't get much of a reaction beyond a shocked face at the time; it didn't come up in her conversation with her mother. That feels like a dropped thread.

[ShadowHunter]

I need Leslie to go on vacation lol. I mostly like her but she has been on a lot and a little break is needed. I did like how she was talking about her show though. I like when the soaps have the fake soap they watch. One Life to Live had Fraternity Row and Twin Peaks had Invatation to Love. 

The siblings scene with Dani and Nicole was nice. 

I hope Dante Green shows up and brings some spice because I am a bit bored with this reunion storyline actually. 

[One Tough Cookie]

20 hours ago, Dream Boy said:

There has to be more to this Articulette drama than they are letting on. Otherwise, it's giving dry

I think Anita had a baby that Vernon has no idea she/he exists.

I didn't see much of today Harvey Weinstein's trial was interrupted--was anyone on the west coast interrupted?

[wonderwoman]

11 hours ago, mbluecpa said:

Anita’s plan to go to Chicago for rehearsals is sudden (bags packed during the commercial break lol). At first I thought Tamara Tunie had an outside project and needed to be off screen for a bit but I couldn’t find anything - maybe Chicago is a way for them to introduce Dante to the canvas?

 

iirc, she was directing a play (maybe a musical) in delaware back in april, which is likely when these episodes would have been shot. 

[Rodney]

2 hours ago, drivethroo said:

Because she thinks she's got Eva back under her thumb.

*sigh*  That's what I'd thought.

Edited June 11 by Rodney

[Badsamaritan]

48 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I think Anita had a baby that Vernon has no idea she/he exists.

I think it's more likely, at least for now, that Vernon has a son out there somewhere. Probably from his young buck activist days, before he met Anita. Because it's always been weird to me that they have this family name they're proud of, but they had 2 daughters and none of their grandchildren go by that last name. Technically I don't think we know if there are other Duprees that are cousins to Vernon, or if he had/has any siblings/brothers. I could be very wrong and they've mentioned it in passing, though. We've discussed here about why they didn't make Martin the youngest Dupree, a later in life baby for Vernon and Anita. So maybe a first born, out of wedlock son for Vernon was always planned. 

I'm exhausted with Leslie's 3 Faces of Eve routine and trying to figure out what it is she actually wants, besides Teddy Bear. Today's end with her bordered on mustache twirling and I'm over it. She's doing entirely too much and looks ridiculous. And I just really want somebody to old fashioned soap slap her now. 

Nicole looked fabulous in all white with that dark red lip. Gorgeous. And I do love the sisterly bond with Dani, and that she knew what Nicole needed. But damn, y'all, somebody please teach Miss Ma'am some better cuss words than skankaroni lol! 😭

[Dream Boy]

58 minutes ago, Badsamaritan said:

 

I'm exhausted with Leslie's 3 Faces of Eve routine and trying to figure out what it is she actually wants, besides Teddy Bear. Today's end with her bordered on mustache twirling and I'm over it. She's doing entirely too much and looks ridiculous. And I just really want somebody to old fashioned soap slap her now. 

Yeah, Leslie has pretty much worn out her welcome. At this point, she's isolated herself to the point where other characters not named Eva look stupid for even interacting with her. I think BTG needs their first good old fashioned soap murder mystery lol

I'm always game for more Dupree Sisters interactions. Love Nicole and Dani together. While Nicole has been strangely sidelined in what should be her story, I think Daphne does a good job of showing her inner turmoil when we do get to see her. 

Now that OG Ted is gone, Jacob has become my official new eye candy. 

[drivethroo]

1 hour ago, Badsamaritan said:

Technically I don't think we know if there are other Duprees that are cousins to Vernon, or if he had/has any siblings/brothers.

Well we do know Vernon had Uncle Cornelius but whether Cornelius was a Dupree or not is unknown. That's where the male Dupree could come from, a cousin.  We also don't know if Vernon had any siblings or not.

1 hour ago, Badsamaritan said:

I'm exhausted with Leslie's 3 Faces of Eve routine and trying to figure out what it is she actually wants, besides Teddy Bear.

She wants the life of Dupree...to be a socialite, desired by the community, the accolades, the praise. She thinks Nicole robbed her of that.

47 minutes ago, Dream Boy said:

Yeah, Leslie has pretty much worn out her welcome.

Thanks to Kat, Leslie won't be reporting to jail at all.  I think Leslie will be one of the Articulettes' children (Barbara, Anita or Sharon) and that's why she has this deep resentment for the Duprees.

I think all of this office situation between Laura and Eva is setting the stage for Eva becoming Ted's assistant...which was going to be the original plan Ted & Nicole had come up for Eva for when Laura came back.

 

[AnimeMania]

How old is Chelsea and how old is Madison?

[mbluecpa]

1 hour ago, AnimeMania said:

How old is Chelsea and how old is Madison?

Intended ages in the extended Dupree family are a little hard to read for me but I’ve assumed Chelsea is around 25, maybe a little younger? Madison made a reference yesterday to finishing either high school or college early so could be as young as 30-ish, assuming four years of med school + four (?) for a neuro residency.

 

[Rodney]

1 hour ago, AnimeMania said:

How old is Chelsea and how old is Madison?

Don't know about Madison's age, but way back in the very first episode, Chelsea was said to be twenty-three.

[Maelstrom]

5 hours ago, Rodney said:

Don't know about Madison's age, but way back in the very first episode, Chelsea was said to be twenty-three.

In the words of Bob Kelso from Scrubs, “You’ve done four years of college and four years of medical school, so I can safely assume you’re at least eight.”

[AnimeMania]

S01.E72: Thursday, June 12, 2025
S01.E73 (Canada)

[Rodney]

Well, hello, Marcel!  Nice to see you again, and nice to hear you dispense some advice to Jacob.  I actually agreed with him to an extent.  I'm not for outright breaking rules, but bending them should be fine every now and then.  Depending on the extent and severity, of course.

But Jacob finally got the DNA he wanted thanks to Kat.  That was a smart move of her to get Mona to pretend to want to make up with Leslie.  I will say that they're felt like at least some honesty between them, with Mona letting Leslie tell her side of things.  Leslie actually felt like she was being human and honest for the first time in a while.  Then Mona laid the hammer down, and Leslie tried to make her feel guilty over it.  I hope that Mona didn't feel guilty over it.

So now Eva is going to be Ted's new office manager.  Kat will be pissed about it.  But it looks like Eva might get something going with Carlton.

So Smitty is stuck doing a puff piece on Marcel?  I get the feeling that there were scenes between Smitty and Marcel that were cut, seeing as how we didn't see either one of them beyond the first two acts.

Still really don't care about Ashley and Andre, but it's clear that Andre today was just giving Ashley advice on how to fix things with Derek.

They owe me made some good points to Derek that he needs to act to fix things, as well, before it's too late.

Nicole and Martin had some nice scenes, and their hug was heartbreaking.  Martin clearly wants to know what's going on with him.  And that mysterious guy is still following him around.  I really do think he has something to do with what his secret is.

Good episode.

Edited June 13 by Rodney

[One Tough Cookie]

9 hours ago, Rodney said:

Don't know about Madison's age, but way back in the very first episode, Chelsea was said to be twenty-three.

The problem I have is the women thought to be mothers couldn't possibly be them because they look so young themselves.

[Badsamaritan]

Once Kat showed up to OG's I knew what they were gonna try to do. And it is legal. Leslie was in a public place and abandoned her napkin. I actually thought Marcel was gonna suggest something similar when they saw her at the bar, to go over and take her glass or something. And sorry, I didn't believe a word Leslie said. Her relationships are very much transactional. She wouldn't hesitate to use Mona again in a scheme or just lie right to her face. How do you trust someone who started the friendship on a whole, big ass lie? Who played in your face for months? And then to try to throw some guilt trip on you after all the dirty shit they've done. Just trifling. 

I don't know who is responsible for Derek and Ashley and their tedious relationship issues but, a pox on their house. 😒

I feel like Martin really doesn't remember exactly what he did/what happened. And who is this sneaky waiter? Is he the owner of the voice Martin has been hearing in his dreams?

I understand that Ted is trying to make up for not being there for Eva but, why does he allow her to talk about Kat like that, but scolds Kat when she talks about Eva? Also, that whole 'new world order' speech to Kat? How come Ted didn’t overhear that? When Eva does things like that, I don't feel like she's really sorry at all for what she helped do. Because she's still lying to Ted right now, in his face. She is once again a willing accessory, and she hasn't even really earned any forgiveness for the first time. 

Speaking of Ted...uh, your boy Carlton is basically telling you what's finna happen with Nicole's fine ass, bruh. And he first in line. I don't know if you heard, but you might wanna heed. 

[Giuseppe]

Not much to say about today's show, but watching the scene with Ted and Carlton, I had the thought that, while I have nothing against Keith Robinson, the actor playing Carlton could've been a better recast for Ted. He has the 'presence' that old Ted had, and also kind of more resembles Martin, Kat, and Eva, IMO. I know Carlton was in one or two of the anniversary party episodes when old Ted was still around, but they still could've brought Keith in and have them swap roles. But that's just me doing some fantasy casting, haha. I did like Ted's properly-fitting jacket today, though, lol.

Edited June 13 by Giuseppe

[Irlandesa]

7 hours ago, Rodney said:

So Smitty is stuck doing a puff piece on Marcel?  I get the feeling that there were scenes Smitty and Marcel that were cut, seeing as we didn't see either one of them beyond the first two acts.

It's a little frustrating.  Marcel is the crooked cop, right?  So having Smitty being around him could be interesting with his connection to Joey and, based on Martin's reaction, potentially something to do with Martin's past.

3 hours ago, Badsamaritan said:

I feel like Martin really doesn't remember exactly what he did/what happened. And who is this sneaky waiter? Is he the owner of the voice Martin has been hearing in his dreams?

Do the writers even know what's going on with Martin?  It seems like he knows he has a secret but if he knew what happened, going to his mother about his dreams wouldn't make sense. But if he doesn't know, what secret does he think he's trying to protect?
 

I don't get Eva going after Kat.  She has no put herself directly into looking super suspicious.  

[Rodney]

On 6/12/2025 at 7:09 PM, Badsamaritan said:

And sorry, I didn't believe a word Leslie said. Her relationships are very much transactional. She wouldn't hesitate to use Mona again in a scheme or just lie right to her face. How do you trust someone who started the friendship on a whole, big ass lie?

Don't forget that she did honestly tell Jan her side of the story, too, and she was definitely genuine then.  Mona honestly hadn't heard her side yet, so I think she was being genuine with her, too.  It was when Mona dropped the bomb on her that Leslie reverted to her manipulative self.

Edited June 15 by Rodney

[TiffanyNichelle]

I'm sorry, I could not concentrate on anything in today's show after Carlton in those white pants. Now why did they do that to that man? LOL!

It's frustrating to watch Eva basically admit to Kat that she had Leslie's helmet and that she knew Kat stole it. Act dumb! Also stop defending Leslie to people, even Kat. She wants this relationship with Ted and she misses Nicole and she needs to let Leslie go to make those two relationships work. 

I think for all her bluster, deep inside Leslie does miss her friendship with Mona a little because why else is she always running to her trying to explain her side. She did seem genuine when she thought Mona understood her regarding Ted. She didn't count on Mona standing firm on being angry on Nicole's behalf. I hope Mona doesn't feel any guilt about tricking her because she shouldn't. That was the least worst thing she could do to Leslie. Go to church and pray it out, Mona will be fine.

[AnimeMania]

S01.E73: Friday, June 13, 2025
S01.E74 (Canada)

[Rodney]

My thoughts for today's episode are going to be greatly delayed until I see the whole thing tonight, because CBS apparently thinks that the missile strike in Israel is more important.  Got a special report in the second half of the episode that lasted the entire half.

I DON'T CARE, CBS NEWS!😡😡😡😡

[ShadowHunter]

CBS broke in for me as well but only for 10 minutes. Still 10 minutes too long. In this day and age with all the channels devoted to news it's really not needed. 

Ashley is beyond annoying. This thing with her and Andre is so dead in the water. 

I didn't like the earnings Dani was wearing. I enjoyed her with Tomas though.

I might be over thinking here but I have noticed Derek and Naomi are starting to spend more time together.

Glad we got momentum going with Martin's big secret. I hope the whole thing comes out soon.