S9.E17: All Bark, No Bite

[ZettaK]

Gizelle honours her father, Ashley gives a major life update and Dr. Wendy goes to the White House; Karen's latest court date looms as she questions her friendships; Stacey's charity event unravels in an unexpected fashion.

First aired on 2/2/2025.

[FlyingEgret]

I love that the openings this season always seem to taunt Karen by showing frolicking deer...

[Mr. Miner]

I’m for anything that taunts the Grand Dumbass.

[Mr. Miner]

TJ the F-ing Clown is in the house!

[Steph J]

Stacey shouldn't be rolling through stop signs, but that's not a gotcha when the video of your drunk ass in the cop shop is all over the internet.

[JohnnyU]

Is this T J thing some kind of attempted joke on us viewers?  He comes across as a psycho freak.  I’m not saying he is one but is this some storyline they are using to freak us out and make us worry about her?

something just seems very wrong here. Stacey, jmo but you look like u in danger girl. Allegedly.

[For Cereals]

Ooh the preview!  I need to know what TJ said!  Fake showmance?!  I’ll just be mad if he’s going to make Stacey look stupid because it shouldn’t be for his corny behind.  She doesn’t deserve that.  She’s not Kenya evil and she stood up to Karen.

Also Karen I see you fake vomiting.  It’s not a big deal.  You startle puppies and they’re gonna poop or pee.  I’m surprised no one had an accident before that.

[politichick]

22 minutes ago, For Cereals said:

Ooh the preview!  I need to know what TJ said!  Fake showmance?!  I’ll just be mad if he’s going to make Stacey look stupid because it shouldn’t be for his corny behind.  She doesn’t deserve that.  She’s not Kenya evil and she stood up to Karen.

Also Karen I see you fake vomiting.  It’s not a big deal.  You startle puppies and they’re gonna poop or pee.  I’m surprised no one had an accident before that.

She does need a wake-up call regarding him, though.

Karen was ridiculous with the vomiting into the trash,

[Marley]

I felt bad for the dogs.

[drivethroo]

This was actually a pretty good episode and now there's organic beef, not the manufactured beefs of seasons 7 and 8.  I would actually bring back everyone on the cast except Jacqueline & Jassi and shift Keiarna back down to friend.

Get rid of Walter and swap him out for AJ.

The swap with the confetti and fog machine was production foolery that wasn't needed.

Gizelle did warn Wendy in Season 5 what Karen was all about but because Gizelle decided to sacrifice Wendy in order to protect Robyn.  It will be interesting to see the dynamic between Gizelle, Wendy and Karen in future seasons. I don't think Karen will be back next season but I think she will be back at some point.

Robyn was on WWHL tonight, I think she's on her way back. She needs to be in a friend role only, that way she won't have to film with or talk about Juan.

Good to see Ashley's sister make another appearance. She's so quiet.

Putting bunions on counters must be a family trait because Dean had his onions, bunions and corns all over her counters.

 

[dancingdreamer]

I hated Stacey's  wig, but she never has a raggedy  ass Karen! I think  Karen should  be off the show, I wouldn't  miss her, or her fake vomiting. Sure she's  all of a sudden  adopting  2 dogs, from Japan? Huh? 

Poor dogs were so frightened.  Wendy not consulting  Eddie  about getting  another dog was funny. Mia also adopted  a dog. Stacey stood her ground, I was impressed,  so I'm sorry the dogs were so scared. 

TJ , AJ, I  can't keep them straight.  The way TJ speaks to Stacey is plain weird.  FaceTime with Eddie,  did he say it was all fake or something  about Sex? Has he watched it back and dumps her? Roll on next Sunday. 

[Chatty Cake]

I thought it was hilarious that AJ didn’t like TJ right off the bat.  It’s too bad that they waited so long to introduce AJ. 
The dogs were cute. I would have wanted to adopt. How terrible the fog machine was used and scared them. Also the ladies all screaming about some dog poop was unnecessary and scared them even more. Karen was ridiculous. Don’t brag that you are saving two dogs and then make puke noises when they are scared. 

 

[Baltimore Betty]

Gizelle thought she was pulling something over on Stacey when she bought that ugly dress but the joke was on Gizelle, she looked horrible in it!

TJ tells Stacey that if she loves her hair then he loves it for her because he was not hired to give a real opinion of anything. TJ and Stacey were the corniest MC's and I was a little surprised since they were on air (or at least she was) QVC people, you have to think fast on your feet to sell a chrome diopside ring or a frying pan that is the only one you will ever need.

Karen knocked Stacey's blonde hair...has the Grand Dame ever checked out her own wig? BTW, can you buy a wig that is an updo?

Mia should not be adopting a dog, she can barely (from what we have heard) take care of her children more than a couple of days in a row, that poor dog will be at her mercy for walks and food.

Ashley gets the prize for having the most family members on camera, I guess she does not hang out with that muppet anymore and it is slow going making Josh happen. I really wanted Ashley to wear a man-tailored suit to the reunion, just to push the narrative of her devotion to her art! 

It was cool that Wendy interviewed Karine Jean-Pierre, Wendy seemed at ease during the interview but why bring Karen, just because you got to stand outside of some Surry County federal building to hear about her three wick candle and get a key to the city and I am sure they have changed the locks by now.

 

 

 

[ButterQueen]

11 hours ago, JohnnyU said:

Is this T J thing some kind of attempted joke on us viewers?  He comes across as a psycho freak.  I’m not saying he is one but is this some storyline they are using to freak us out and make us worry about her?

something just seems very wrong here. Stacey, jmo but you look like u in danger girl. Allegedly.

I cannot stand Stacey’s dumb act regarding her divorce, her dumb non-intimate BFF or her annoying voice.  
This show isn’t fun anymore.

[ZettaK]

Karen doesn't think she is the only person who could give dogs a longer life, does she?

Her arrogance about kicking Stacey out of the group was something else. It seems she is the one who would have this fate.

Driving though a stop sign is not the same as a DUI, driving with an expired license, etc.

Karen contacts Bravo executives in order to eliminate certain women from the show, and Stacey (and Gizelle) exposed her of giving "lists" to new cast members about becoming friends, or not with the rest.

The poor, adorable puppies were scared, and one had an accident. So what? It was cleaned immediately. Karen was enjoying the created chaos.

Robyn was on Watch What Happens Live because she is on the current season of The Traitors- a good sign of her returning to the show. Other HWs appeared on The Traitors before the got reinstated. 

 

Edited Yest. at 03:51 PM by ZettaK

[Baltimore Betty]

8 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

The poor, adorable puppies were scared, and one had an accident. So what? It was cleaned immediately. Karen was enjoying the created chaos.

The way Karen carried on and the way the camera crew shot that scene it was like the Red Wedding!

[drivethroo]

1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

Her arrogance about kicking Stacey out of the group was something else. It seems she is the one who would have this fate.

That's why I said last week Stacey picked up what Gizelle and Ashley were putting down...Karen wasn't salty over Stacey going to Vivien's dress shop without consulting Karen first. Karen was salty because Stacey was making moves within the group* without Karen and Karen was warning her (through Gizelle and Ashley) that she had the power to get her blocked from the show so Stacey needed to tread lightly.

Karen made that point very clear on this week's episode...that Stacey was no longer welcome on the show and she had to go.

1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

Karen contacts Bravo executives in order to eliminate certain women from the show,

This is why Wendy was not surprised and immediately believed Stacey's story about Karen talking bad about her.  I don't think Wendy has any illusions about anyone on the cast, past or present but she is going to go along to get along and that's what she did with Karen.

This is the drama I want to see, not side characters coming on to beat up a main cast member because the main cast member ignored them, not fake Maury Povich scandals, not throuples situations, not 1 wick or 3 wick candles or cast members tossing drinks in other cast members' faces while other cast members laugh and shrug.

I know Karen probably did the same thing when she was in the Jack & Jill moms' groups ...blocking people, going behind people's backs, snubbing people etc.  This is the real Karen and the drama I want to see.

*Charrisse did the same thing with Monique, because Monique was infiltrating Charrisse's social circle (off the show) without Charrisse.  The problem with Monique was she was talking 💩 about Charrisse to Charrisse's friends, who reported that back to her and that led to the chain of events that resulted in seasons 5-8.

Edited Yest. at 03:54 PM by drivethroo

[heatherchandler]

11 hours ago, drivethroo said:

 

Get rid of Walter and swap him out for AJ.

The swap with the confetti and fog machine was production foolery that wasn't needed.

 

Putting bunions on counters must be a family trait because Dean had his onions, bunions and corns all over her counters.

 

Love AJ!  He’s real and hilarious.

Those poor dogs, that was cruel to scare them like that.  Poor things.

I’m so grossed out by Ashley’s kids sitting and jumping around on the counters.  Food is prepared there!  Does she not have stools?  

[Crazydoxielady]

I can't for a moment fathom why anyone would shoot a fog machine at a bunch of dogs. It was cruel. The women freaking out were idiotic.  I wanted that 1 month old Pomski! So cute!  Karen was seeking attention with her vomiting. And why adopt two dogs when you know your ass is likely about to catch a bid in prison? For Old Ray to have to take care of? Not fair. 

That hair did not flatter Stacey as much as her long dark hair, but she is such a beautiful woman she never can look bad. I'm glad AJ let her know his thoughts on the TJ situation....which apparently is about to be over (or should be) once we hear what Happy Eddy has to say.

The dresses on the women at the event were mostly awful. I can't fathom why Jassi wore a breast plate. It looks awful an any women wearing it (Cue Sai on RHONY with her breast plate and turban talking head). Jassi is incredibly boring and its pretty evident why she only ranked 'friend of."  The dress Gizelle bought to piss off Stacey was pretty on the store mannequin, but hideous on Gizzy. It made her look dumpy, and was way too young for her. The back shots of Karen were not flattering at all, she may have lost weight, but backless or low cut in the back dresses are not her friend.

I was cracking up when Ashley started singing in her kitchen her stupid thriving and surviving song...and her family made no bones about their thoughts on her singing abilities with their facial reactions! You know they have had it with her thinking she has any modicum of talent!  And lord have mercy, Sheilas' mustache is about as full as Uncle Lumps. I paused and scared myself! Sheila's just out here growing a full on stash! Is she gonna be in the next drag king event?

Edited 22 hours ago by Crazydoxielady

[Mahamid Frauded Me]

I actually like Stacey, but she needs to dump TJ, he is a d*ck. She truly seemed upset about the machine scaring the puppies, everyone acted like there was an earthquake happening, those dogs were scared, glad I wasn't there, after smacking the crap out of almost all the ladies, I would have taken all the dogs home with me. I didn't find Wendy that bad this season, for the first time. Karen is delusional acting all high and mighty when hopefully she will get the clink clink

[amarante]

My god but that shot of Karen calling into the reunion was ridiculous. 

She must have deliberately made herself look as "sick" as possible because these women glam themselves up when they wake up and call someone on the phone.

I assume she is still being delusional about garnering some kind of sympathy.

I have never liked her although I found her delusions to be amusing through the years.

Therefore I can't help but experience strong feeling of schadenfreude as the other women she has tyrannized throughout the years must also feel.

She really seriously opted for the wrong approach by going on television and acting as if this was some minor misunderstanding which would be cleared up at the trial - knowing what was contained on the tapes. 

And knowing that most of the women know that the act she has done is a complete sham - she was well known to them to be a drunk as well as having affairs - all the while putting on much more of a facade than any of the other women.

Ashley came close but she was only lying about Michael in terms of defending him but always presented herself and her marriage as not being "traditional" 

 

[Baltimore Betty]

2 hours ago, Crazydoxielady said:

The back shots of Karen were not flattering at all, she may have lost weight, but backless or low cut in the back dresses are not her friend.

The flesh does not hang on her body the way it did when she was 30, happens to all of us, a cruel reminder that we are not 30 anymore, lol.

2 hours ago, Crazydoxielady said:

I was cracking up when Ashley started singing in her kitchen her stupid thriving and surviving song...and her family made no bones about their thoughts on her singing abilities with their facial reactions!

Ashley's singing to her family was priceless when their expressions.  I might have listened patiently to a few bars just for a piece of that pretty cake.

 

[goofygirl]

So... Is her going to rehab an attempt to keep from going to jail?

[amarante]

30 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

So... Is her going to rehab an attempt to keep from going to jail?

Yes of course

The problem is that this is what she should have done immediately

Been incredibly contrite and accepted some kind of plea deal which included rehab.

This is what both Shannon and Gina did on OC. Shannon was shown learning how to use the breathalyzer on her car last season. Gina discussed how difficult it was to not be able to use her car to run even errands.

They accepted their fate and by and large most of the viewers accepted them as having done something wrong but not attempting to minimize their behavior as Karen has done all season.

I can't begin to imagine what kind of thinking would enable someone to think that they would be completely vindicated in terms of it being a misunderstanding. She and her attorney would have viewed the cam recordings well before the trial and that should have motivated an immediate request for a plea deal of some kind

She might shave off some jail time based on rehab but typically if you make it go to trial you are going to receive a harsher sentence than if you do a plea deal. The government needs an incentive to make plea bargains attractive and "deal" is the operative word - if you plead guilty and avoid having the DA spend valuable legal time plus money plus the money for the actual court room trial when trials are generally backed up - you are going to have to face repercussions for that decision

[TV Glotzer]

Why on earth is Karine Jean-Pierre wasting her time with that moron Osefo?

TJ is one creepy and awkward dude. He talks to Stacey like she’s his property. 

[Baltimore Betty]

9 hours ago, TV Glotzer said:

Why on earth is Karine Jean-Pierre wasting her time with that moron Osefo?

TJ is one creepy and awkward dude. He talks to Stacey like she’s his property. 

My only thought about Karine JP was to have a moment to show other women, women who look like her can advance in life and their jobs, not sure how many people are watching the Wendy Osefo Show but KJP decided to take advantage of whatever platform she gets.  Also, maybe a slow news day?  I thought Wendy's questions were good and she and KJP had good banter so there's that.

I looked up Wendy's show last year, I only saw one episode, she was able to get a lot of notable women to appear so there's that.

I hated that yellow suit Wendy wore, so there's that.

Karen seemed sober, so there's that.

[Keywestclubkid]

I find them all freaking out because a dog shit so fucking stupid ... they are dogs they shit what were you expecting .... 

 

just the over the top reaction of the gagging and stuff was just stupid ... you women have changed fucking diapers have wiped snotty noses took care of your children when they were sick and disgusting .. but you can't handle a dog shitting that you didn't even have to clean up??

 

get the fuck out of here 

[Keywestclubkid]

Stacy's GBFF telling her to get away from that man ... GIRL listen to your friend that has known you forever ... he aint the one for you ....

the dude comes off as such a douche when he interacts with her its kinda scary with the controlling shit he attempts .. she marries this man it will end in tears and disaster ....

 

Stacy also trying to shade G for buying and wearing the dress and calling her big bird .. Jealousy is a very ugly thing Stacy and you were super green with it in that talking head 

[Giddyup]

I am not a fan of Karen but i thought it was crappy of Stacey to turn on her for Mia’s favor. Mia isn’t a friend to anyone. 
Although I don’t think anyone except Mia and Jacqueline are actual friends.  The show needs a good pair or two of actual friends.

[amarante]

46 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

My only thought about Karine JP was to have a moment to show other women, women who look like her can advance in life and their jobs, not sure how many people are watching the Wendy Osefo Show but KJP decided to take advantage of whatever platform she gets.  Also, maybe a slow news day?  I thought Wendy's questions were good and she and KJP had good banter so there's that.

I looked up Wendy's show last year, I only saw one episode, she was able to get a lot of notable women to appear so there's that.

I hated that yellow suit Wendy wore, so there's that.

Karen seemed sober, so there's that.

Wendy is friendly with April Ryan and my understanding is that she helped broker it.

Wendy has appeared on CNN and other networks as a talking head. She isn't much in demand but she does have some what of a legitimate media presence

The Press Secretary isn't an enormous "get" in terms of an interview and so it was a chance to have a low stakes interview with a "friendly" media presence

I don't think it was the Dr. Wendy podcast that was what they wanted but a broader audience that watches BRAVO shows that might not watch legitimate news media