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S5.E16: Burn Books, Revisited? SEASON FINALE

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3 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I was with what Heather was saying in her speech until she got to the part about reading bad text’s to each other.  This is not going to end well for them (but entertaining for us). 

I call BS on this whole exercise. Mary has said nastier things to Heather's face than what was in that text.

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ZettaK

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Heather has credibility (but Monica doesn't)? She lied about the black eye, she even accused the Bravo filming crew for being responsible, and still supports Jenn Shah. 

They all more or less have connections and even friendships with bloggers, IG accounts, etc. They use them to promote their agenda, and attack other HWs. The women in all HW franchises.

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JohnnyU

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Who knows but Assume this “game” is producer-driven knowing narcissistic injuries will be inflicted making for more “interesting” tv (in their opinions).

wouldn’t be surprised if they have a few psychologists meeting on their staff to come up w this shit.  The people in the meeting probably all (correctly) figure Lisa is the one that will spaz out.

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ZettaK

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Did the women write some of those with the help of Bravo producers/were chosen with the help of Bravo producers?

Good to know what they think of each other....

28 minutes ago, FlyingEgret said:

Thanks foe the reminder - I kinda forgot Meredith was at the table...

Meredith was forgettable this season.

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Baltimore Betty

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16 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I’m LMAO at these text’s. ‘One foot in the grave the other on a banana peel’. These are gold! 

She forgot to mention the rest of that line, no living heirs.

Lisa didn't understand the assignment and Whitney's whole sex scenario about Lisa was interesting, like did she get that from thin air? It seems oddly detailed.

 

 

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JenE4

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Wait, these Bravo talking heads are actually filmed in front of a giant photo of a room in their house instead of just green screen? Starting off strong with shocking reveals I never saw coming! (Now there’s video, so maybe it is a green screen?)

Oh, no! Another middle of the night secret eye injury on a trip?! Good thing Meredith’s room is bugged with surveillance equipment so the show can get to the bottom of this without firing anyone this time.

Oh, fake tags?! Shots fired! Shots fired! A leaky gut insult! Eat some kimchi, Whitney. This man covering his baby’s ears!! Here comes Britani somehow making this about herself again. Well, at least she got Lisa and Whitney to stop.

Oh, damn. Mary is being real. This explains a lot about her.

Here comes Heather with another meme-worthy soliloquy. Find the worst thing you ever wrote about someone and have them read it. Yes, this will solve everything. Wait, the first one actually worked?! I would rather invite Bronwyn for tea than Mary! The horror! Angie!!!!! Yikes! Wow. I’m actually surprised everyone took it fairly well except for Lisa, of course. The lady doth protest too much. If someone said that about me, I’d be like, what?? That’s crazy! I’d laugh not have a full-on breakdown.
 

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And Lisa left the table after her meltdown, without her mic pac. And Meredith followed. 

How did we end up with accusations about Shawn from Lisa when her supposed threesome was being discussed? 

Bronwyn took the nasty text very well. 

Please Heather, no more books....She is writing a third one.

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princelina

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I'm calling BS on this entire exercise - no one in their right mind would agree to do it in the first place.  Secondly their texts were like journal entries - to whom?  They handed over the phone and the person reading it had no desire to see who the recipient was or what preceded/followed it?  Please.  And I'm so sure that Mary's would end with how proud she was of Heather 🙄. Speaking of that blaspheming, swindling toad, I seem to recall in the first season that she allowed her "poor relatives" to clean her house.  And her mother dumped her when she married Grandpa and stole the Chief Blasphemer and Swindler job in the family business, which her mother wanted.

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dancingdreamer

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This was a strange  episode  for me.

I felt like there was a lot of producer interference,  and/ or manipulation. 

Bronwyn  looked like a parrot,   in her coat of many feathers. I think  Mary sometimes  says what I'm thinking,  but I truly  am fond of her and Angie's friendship. Mary has always  been socially  awkward,  but this season,  for me, she has come into her own. I just hope Robert  Jr is doing  okay.

"I reached  out to Monica, " their  faces were a picture, omg. The dreaded M word. 

Lisa is always  in a snit, 8 Lisa's  to keep  her happy, snit to follow.

Read out something  awful,  then burn it, Lisa  has a snit.

There's  an awful  lot out there  about her marriage,  it sometimes  makes me wonder if it isn't true. However,  if they have an arrangement,  that's  totally  up to them. She seems to want to hurt the other  women, and Meredith  tags along. I really  don't  consider  those two to be the leads in RHSLC. 

 

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ZettaK

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Bravo reached new lows. I doubt any of the women thought of this hurtful game.  

From the preview of the reunion at the end of the episode:

Lisa is dating some guy according to Angie.

Seth Marks has a side chick (verbatim) in Ohio. Meredith left the stage. 

Todd didn't buy the $4 million necklace for Bronwyn, it was a loaner according to Lisa who is friends with the jeweler.

Lisa's G Wagon was repossessed.

John Barlow claimed Bronwyn had a miscarriage, and Todd got angry- we don't know the whole story yet.

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dmeets

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Every time the OGs gasps in horror at a mention of Monica, I just roll my eyes considering they stan for Jenn Shah.

Lisa pretty much admitted on WWHL that she intentionally deflected rumors onto Angie to get back at her for not defending her against Whitney earlier on the trip. With fronds like her, who needs enemies? Bronwyn seemed to realize too late that she erred in throwing everyone under the bus to try in vain to get back into Lisa’s good graces.

Something tells me Brittani has an actual burn book in her bedroom. Then again maybe she’s not emotionally old enough to make one yet.

Who’d have thought Angie and Mary would end up being the friendship goals of this show?

 

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Chatty Cake

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It would take me forever to find a text I wanted to read aloud. What they read was  ridiculously scripted.

The one thing I believed was that Mary was truly pissed at Angie for chasing Britini. 

My biggest takeaway is that there was a woman who offered to be a third for Whitney and Justin whose resume includes the Barlows?  

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bosawks

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9 hours ago, JohnnyU said:

Just my opinion- heather is fake as shit and I would not be surprised if she receives extra $ for stirring essentially scripted shit unknown to the other women.  ALLEGEDLY 🙄

My feeling about all alleged BRAVO production plants whose integrity is up for the highest bidder is, good for you, get that bag from BRAVO!

It's a dirty game might as well make the most of it.

But I also think the whole thing is 95% production and 5% reality, so my perspective is skewed.

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BloggerAloud

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I am not a Lisa Barlow fan and at first I was annoyed at her reaction at the dinner but then I sat back and thought about how all the other text messages the women read were limited to their own personal feelings about a person. Whitney used this dinner as a way to get information onto the show about Lisa and her husband which is fundamentally different. I think it sucked that Lisa used that to pivot and say stuff about Angie who was just sitting there, minding her own business. I think Angie's friendship with Mary is very sweet and I like that Mary got up and followed Angie. Also, I thought  it was interesting how Meredith clearly used Lisa's freaking out as ground cover to not participate in the exercise.

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SweetieDarling

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I thought it was interesting that when Whitney was on WWHL the other week she said that every time she has issues with "a certain cast member" (meaning Lisa) rumors start to fly about her marriage to Justin, and here she is spreading rumors about Lisa's marriage.

 

To say those 2 hate each other would be a gross understatement

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Baltimore Betty

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10 hours ago, princelina said:

I'm calling BS on this entire exercise - no one in their right mind would agree to do it in the first place.  Secondly their texts were like journal entries - to whom?  They handed over the phone and the person reading it had no desire to see who the recipient was or what preceded/followed it?  Please.  And I'm so sure that Mary's would end with how proud she was of Heather 🙄. Speaking of that blaspheming, swindling toad, I seem to recall in the first season that she allowed her "poor relatives" to clean her house.  And her mother dumped her when she married Grandpa and stole the Chief Blasphemer and Swindler job in the family business, which her mother wanted.

I thought it was strange that nobody scrolled past the text they read aloud too.

Most of the texts should have started, "Dear Diary."

Lisa's reaction was odd considering the other women didn't scream at anyone or retaliated, I think it hit a chord of truth?

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JenE4

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25 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I thought it was strange that nobody scrolled past the text they read aloud too.

Most of the texts should have started, "Dear Diary."

Lisa's reaction was odd considering the other women didn't scream at anyone or retaliated, I think it hit a chord of truth?

I tend to think they or their producers identified and screenshot a text in advance for ease of access. This was pretty evident when Lisa was zooming in and scrolling side to side to be able to  read the text, which was already in the largest front and a zoomed-in photo. Add to the burn book: As a woman of a certain age, Lisa is far too vain to use reading glasses.

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Pi237

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I hate when its too obvious that a lot of this is scripted. Ruins the illusion for me. First clue was how Long Heather was allowed to talk without anyone interrupting her.  I have to watch these shows with close caption on because they Screech over each other so much. Hurtful game was 100% pre-planned. Everyone tried to add some sugar to their poison which no one does when gossiping. So Fake.  except Whitney lol I agree, she used this as a way to get a rumor out about Lisa's marriage, and thats why Lisa lost it (& also just because Lisa Always flips out with Meredith running away close behind her, of course).

In real life, the best way to not give these rumors power,is to just laugh them off.  I would've laughed if someone said they heard my husband does circle jerks lmao. But getting enraged and holding grudges is their job. So, Angie had to jump on that one even tho it was stupid. 

Some funny parts-"I have to leave the tag on because I'm returning it tomorrow "

"Your gut is leaking, take a probiotic"

Angie trying not to laugh when Britney stormed off. Then, Britney saying, "thank you for coming to talk to me" aka bringing the cameras over. She's Sahara thirsty, that one. 

Meredith," I feel like we got the horses that represent our personalities" Horse farts.

Brownwyn's Technicolor feather coat was ridiculous &  Fabulous. I'd love to wear it. The pineapple bra tho, pass. 

 

I can't stand when someone uses past trauma as an excuse to be mean in the present. Mary's a selfish narcissistic regardless of her awful parents and son's struggles. Shes crafty and grown enough to know right from wrong. No one needs 'family' who manipulates you like that. Run, Angie! But before you go, please explain how Mary changed your life so dramatically that it brings tears, begging and requires total mob-like loyalty to her.  That was weird.

Maybe I'm slow, but they flash those updates way too fast at the end. 

 

 

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njbchlover

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Well, that was a lot to absorb!!  First, I agree with everyone that the "read it, burn it and move on" game was totally producer driven.  These women, including Heather, would NEVER want to reveal what they actually think and feel about the other women in the cast.  I'm also sure that there are or have been other texts in their phones that go way nastier than what was revealed.  Seriously - Lisa screamed on camera about Meredith sleeping with (not the words she used) half of New York and she has no problem calling Whitney all kinds of names on camera - you think she doesn't have really nasty text messages on her phone?  

I don't think we got to see/hear Lisa's "burn text" (or Meredith's for that matter), but I'm curious to know what they were.

Whitney is a perfect "reality" cast member.  She's good at manipulating a situation to make her appear caring and empathetic while she's actually stabbing a dagger into someone's back.  She's a nasty piece of work, wrapped up in a pretty face and a pseudo-caring persona.  Whitney completely manipulated that game to drop that supposed bombshell on Lisa.  All the while, we are just supposed to forget and move on from the fact that she has been in touch with Monica, who so offended all of them last season, including Whitney.

I can't stand Lisa, and don't know or care if there is any truth at all to what Whitney said, but that was a final low blow that didn't need to be put out there after so many other low blows from Whitney to Lisa.  And, why would random woman just offer up herself for a threesome with Whitney and her husband and then offer up this little tidbit of info about Lisa and her husband?  Seems very suspicious to me, and something that, again, can't be proven.

And, can someone please, please, please give Whitney some speech therapy and teach her how to pronounce words correctly?  "Hilling" = healing - Fillings = feelings, etc. etc.  When she was talking about feelings, I actually had to think about it, as I though she was discussing dental work.  

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dmeets

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1 minute ago, njbchlover said:

I don't think we got to see/hear Lisa's "burn text" (or Meredith's for that matter), but I'm curious to know what they were.

On WWHL Lisa said her text was about Meredith, and that Meredith took it "with stride [sic]" but she didn't detail what it said so I'm presuming it was an extension of the hot mic incident. She said she couldn't remember anything about Meredith's text. I'm annoyed that those two were cut for time, when we could have done without Friend Of's "I'd rather have tea with Bronwyn than Mary." And Friend Of's fifteenth 'storm off and wait for the producers to prod someone to go check on her' scene

While it was funny for a second, I felt bad for the waiter at Heather's suck up to Lisa luncheon when the whole table kept repeating "I loooove thaaaaat" while the poor guy was just trying to get their order and get the hell out of there.

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Marley

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I don't know I found the ending overly produced. I know these shows are not straight reality but Heather's speech at the end seemed to be trying to capture the magic of last season's big reveal. I found it cringey lol.

Lisa is such a bitch for just throwing Angie into it for no reason. I'm over Lisa I think.

Meh to Bronwyn too 

Meredith needs to chill. For someone who likely takes a daily Xanax she's always exploding. Her marriage is trash too.

Brittani better not be asked back. She is the worst & the biggest try hard. It annoyed me people ran after her because that is what she wanted she was faking being upset. She sucks so bad.

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