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S01.E02: 8:00 A.M.

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Irlandesa

Irlandesa

I'll put my thoughts here but I really liked this, especially the second episode.  As with any new show, it does a bit too much of telling us who these people are but by the second episode, they got better at showing us. 

My favorite moment was when the doctor's ankle monitor went off.  That was truly unexpected.  I do quibble a bit with the 20-year-old med student calling her a 'young single mother.'  In the first episode, she said she was a 42 second year resident.  In this episode, she said her son is 11. That'd make her 31 when she had him.  That's a perfectly normal and expected age to have a child.  A majority of women have their first before 30, so if anything, she's older than most first-time mothers.

I liked her performance, though.  She's the one who really felt the most like a doctor I've had to me. 

The children with the elderly father they decided to intubate infuriated me and hit a little too close to home.  It's so sad that someone can decide they don't want extra measures used to save their life, and it can be overridden by their family. 

I have dread about the mother who made herself sick and her ticking time bomb of a son. 

 

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Irlandesa

Irlandesa

29 minutes ago, preeya said:

Yes, I was expecting a parade of EMTs with gunshot victims to arrive at the ER.

I suspect that will happen around the 10th or 11th episode by the time they've moved on to other patients and we'll not be thinking too much about this woman and her son.  It might explain the 15 hour shift which I'm pretty sure is longer than most ER shifts. Or at least the ER doctors I know don't have shifts that long. 

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babyrambo

babyrambo

Reminded me of a mix of early New Amsterdam andThe Resident, with all the same doctorly shuffling as ER. I rewatched it a while back and it really was one of the few medical shows that starts off with a heavy focus on the medicine, like this one. The shows aren’t clones but all the reviews stating there are absolutely no similarities are a bit disingenuous IMO. 

But it’s a solid start. They’ve planted some seeds of melodrama but so far  that’s all taking a backseat to the patients.

There are a lot of characters to keep track of and currently I only really buy Carter Robby, Collins, and McKay as doctors, but I really liked the charge nurse and the added touch of Filipina nurses as well, because that reflects real life. And other than St Denis, which is sitcom, I don’t think I’ve seen any other show touch on that.

I know some action shows have done the ‘every season is a day’ thing but I haven’t seen it with a medical drama yet. So far, it seems interesting. 

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OLynn33

OLynn33

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9 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

I suspect that will happen around the 10th or 11th episode by the time they've moved on to other patients and we'll not be thinking too much about this woman and her son. 

Oh yes. The return of incel boy will be epically horrific. Maybe in the finale. IRL I'm pretty sure the authorities could have been notified about him at least for a chat considering the mom found essentially a manifest of the girls he wants to "eliminate." I just chalked it up to television drama writing why they weren't. The mom desperately trying again to call her son contrasted with the other mom wailing in grief at the impending loss of hers made for an affective closing scene. 

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Notabug

Notabug

4 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

I think the mom could tell the school but I'm not sure what could be done without an immediate threat.

When you are talking about minors in danger of serious injury or death, a whole lot can be done.  Multiple juveniles have been arrested for threatening messages online or elsewhere.  The police should've been notified, the kid immediately removed from class and his locker and backpack and any other personal items checked for weapons or other inflammatory writings.  Then, probably after a psychologic evaluation, the kid could've been charged in juvenile court.

I actually know someone whose kid posted something online complaining about his school and saying he wanted to plant a bomb and blow it up.  He was arrested, expelled from school and charged with inciting panic or something and spent time under court supervision.  And this was about 20 years ago.

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jah1986

jah1986

I really enjoyed the first two episodes. I like Noah Wyle better here than I did in Leverage:Redemption.  I stopped watching ER years before it ended so I can see Dr. Robby instead of Carter.

I hope to see the other characters become better fleshed out. I don't think the med students would be wearing the same uniforms as the residents though. I like the charge nurse. 

I'm curious if there is more to the relationship between Robby and that one senior resident who's pregnant.

What is up with the resident and the ankle bracelet? What is the story there?

That one patient with the rats, freaked me out. Of course the guy raised on the farm was the only one not running away scared. I would have been out of there.

Looking forward to the rest of the season.

Notabug

Notabug

1 hour ago, jah1986 said:

I hope to see the other characters become better fleshed out. I don't think the med students would be wearing the same uniforms as the residents though. I like the charge nurse. 

I'm curious if there is more to the relationship between Robby and that one senior resident who's pregnant.

What is up with the resident and the ankle bracelet? What is the story there?

That one patient with the rats, freaked me out. Of course the guy raised on the farm was the only one not running away scared. I would have been out of there.

Looking forward to the rest of the season.

Yep, in real life, med students wear short coats while residents and attendings usually wear longer ones, coming almost to their knees.  A lot of ER docs have gotten away from the white coats altogether and either wear scrubs or polo shirts with the hospital logo on them.

It's obvious the pregnant resident has some negative feelings towards Dr Robby (I hate the way they shortened his last name into a nickname, BTW).  I just hope he's not the babydaddy.

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iMonrey

iMonrey

This one was hard to watch. That ending, with the mom wailing over her son, and everyone in the trauma center hearing it. The show gets some heavy hitters playing patients and their families. Samantha Sloyan earned her paycheck for this one. And I had no idea Joanna Going was the mom with the potential school shooter son. OMG how can she be so old now? That must mean I'm old too.

I wasn't sure whether or not I liked this after the first episode, but I warmed up to it a bit more during the second episode. Still, it was hard to watch. 

snarts

snarts

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I'm really enjoying this show. I loved ER, was ambivalent on Noah Wylie but loving him here. Still a bit unsure on the each episode equals an hour format. It worked on 24 because there was a plot/mystery to solve. In this case, it's more character based and the format doesn't allow for any character growth. In any case, the first two episodes kept my interest and entertained me and that's all I can ask for.

The trach scenes hit way too close to home. In my personal situation, I would've loved to have one of the Drs be straight and tell us that it would just prolong the inevitable, rather than ventilating him and telling us after, leaving us with the hard decision to remove it. Not enough talk about end of life decisions so everyone is so unprepared. I wish I would've known a lot more so I applaud the show for going there. 

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Morrigan2575

Morrigan2575

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I'm really enjoying this so far,  I hope they don't go overboard on the medical visuals because it's on MAX, they Subway woman's foot last episode was a bit much for me.

So far I'm liking the little pieces of personal information we're getting on the students. I like King, can't stand Santos and feel sorry for Whitaker (do we know why he pockedted the 2nd sandwich)? I'm unsure about Javadi mostly because it feels her character is all about being a nepobaby and super genius...just a little much for me right now.

Did Dr Collins and Robby have a past relationship? I'm definitely getting vibes.

I'm ridiculously amused that The Pitt is dropping episodes Thursday at 9pm since E.R. aired Thursday at 10pm 😆

 

 

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Raja

Raja

On 1/12/2025 at 12:44 AM, Notabug said:

Yep, in real life, med students wear short coats while residents and attendings usually wear longer ones, coming almost to their knees.  A lot of ER docs have gotten away from the white coats altogether and either wear scrubs or polo shirts with the hospital logo on them.

It's obvious the pregnant resident has some negative feelings towards Dr Robby (I hate the way they shortened his last name into a nickname, BTW).  I just hope he's not the babydaddy.

Its not really a nickname but just the boss saying use my name while everyone else is Doctor X who says use my name. Meanwhile farmboy Funking Music and Crash as medical students seem to be on the way to a student year name whether she likes it or not.

After the one F bomb of the first hour/episode the gummy dosed child's mother let loose in what I expected from a Max show.

Irlandesa

Irlandesa

5 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Did Dr Collins and Robby have a past relationship? I'm definitely getting vibes.

There's a relationship there but I'm undecided what that relationship is.  I think the show wants us to think it's romantic and that he's the father but there were other hints that made me think that isn't their relationship.

For one, the discussion around her pregnancy at the beginning of the first episode had her saying she wasn't going to reveal her pregnancy until she hit 12 weeks and I believe made reference to previous attempts.  She and Robby don't quite feel like they have a happily partnered and trying-for-a-kid vibe. 

She's a resident.  I don't think the hospital would have her under Robby's supervision if they were openly together.

So if there is something romantic, I don't think he's her primary partner.  I'm almost wondering if she's related to his mentor. 

 

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SeanBug

SeanBug

Really enjoyed this, and a lot of it was very upsetting. I went thru stuff with my father in his last decade, in and out of ERs, nursing homes etc. It was actually the nursing home who tried to talk us out of not honoring his DNR, because you lose a patient, you lose that $$ from Medicare. 

One critic thought the hospital administrator telling Robby to get his positive reviews up was ridiculous, but IMO it was spot on.

And a better question, why does healthcare need ad agencies and marketing campaigns? 

 

 

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Raja

Raja

3 hours ago, SeanBug said:

 

One critic thought the hospital administrator telling Robby to get his positive reviews up was ridiculous, but IMO it was spot on.

And a better question, why does healthcare need ad agencies and marketing campaigns? 

 

 

For the people willing to pay to get better or more personalized care than the county or baseline insurer is willing to pay.

Notabug

Notabug

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6 hours ago, SeanBug said:

 

And a better question, why does healthcare need ad

agencies and marketing campaigns? 

 

 

Because the margins between profit and loss are small and it is not cheap to keep a hospital up and running.  Hence, it is important to let consumers know what services are available and the quality of care at individual institutions so as to attract them and their health care dollars to that facility rather than a competitor.

In other words, same reason other businesses advertise.

Almost nobody is willing to pay more for amenities or specialized services beyond what their insurance provides. It has become the norm that most hospital rooms are private, for example, there is no extra fee charged for it.  Why? Because patients expect it and, if given the choice, will go to the hospital where a private room is guaranteed rather than take their chances on ones where it isn't.

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SeanBug

SeanBug

16 hours ago, Notabug said:

Because the margins between profit and loss are small and it is not cheap to keep a hospital up and running.  Hence, it is important to let consumers know what services are available and the quality of care at individual institutions so as to attract them and their health care dollars to that facility rather than a competitor.

In other words, same reason other businesses advertise.

Almost nobody is willing to pay more for amenities or specialized services beyond what their insurance provides. It has become the norm that most hospital rooms are private, for example, there is no extra fee charged for it.  Why? Because patients expect it and, if given the choice, will go to the hospital where a private room is guaranteed rather than take their chances on ones where it isn't.

Interesting study I found showed that marketing campaigns or advertising have little to no effect on what the general public knows about hospitals in their area. Nor does it affect  a satisfaction survey, or patient outcomes. One reason is the advertising can be a bit misleading.  

I realize for an elective procedure, a person may choose a particular hospital, but more likely than not, people go to hospitals where their GP or specialist have privileges.  Unless it's an admission following an emergency. 

Where I live, the public hospital is one of the most well regarded in the city. It takes all insurance and is the most affordable. And I know people who have been treated there and at a private hospital and they preferred the public facility. 

Notabug

Notabug

1 minute ago, SeanBug said:

Interesting study I found showed that marketing campaigns or advertising have little to no effect on what the general public knows about hospitals in their area. Nor does it affect  a satisfaction survey, or patient outcomes. One reason is the advertising can be a bit misleading.  

I realize for an elective procedure, a person may choose a particular hospital, but more likely than not, people go to hospitals where their GP or specialist have privileges.  Unless it's an admission following an emergency. 

Where I live, the public hospital is one of the most well regarded in the city. It takes all insurance and is the most affordable. And I know people who have been treated there and at a private hospital and they preferred the public facility. 

I, too, live in a large metropolitan area where the public hospital is well-regarded and offers specialized services that are nationally known and respected.  The facilities are every bit as nice as any of the private hospitals, too.  I worked for them years ago and received compensation that was competitive with private practice or employment by a private hospital system.  The notion that public hospitals are somehow inferior to other institutions is incorrect in this day and age.  My local public hospital has 100% private rooms for patients, BTW.  No room mates and certainly no wards.

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Kenz

Kenz

I really like the show, although it stresses me out. I do have a question. Would it be normal for the head of the ER to wear a hoody and cargo pants? When there is a surgical procedure, Dr. Robby casually drapes a white cover on himself, not bothering to bring it up to his neck level. It's bugging me, but could this be correct attire in a hospital ER?

Notabug

Notabug

55 minutes ago, Kenz said:

I really like the show, although it stresses me out. I do have a question. Would it be normal for the head of the ER to wear a hoody and cargo pants? When there is a surgical procedure, Dr. Robby casually drapes a white cover on himself, not bothering to bring it up to his neck level. It's bugging me, but could this be correct attire in a hospital ER?

It could be; but most hospitals are a bit more formal than that.  I work for a large hospital system, and, if I came to work dressed like that, I would go to the locker room and change into scrubs.  The hospital system where I work allows ER providers to wear either scrubs or a blue polo shirt with the hospital logo on it with chinos or similar.  Hospital policy is no jeans ever, for any on-duty employee.

On ER, they did something similar, although, by series end, most of the male docs anyway, seemed to wear scrubs rather than street clothes. There are a lot of bodily fluids floating around an ER, so avoiding wearing anything that might get stained is a good idea.

Doctors dress much less formally than they did when I started out 40 years ago.  I had a friend from residency who practiced in Atlanta and she told me she never wore anything other than a skirt or dress to the office for her first 5 years in practice, all the female docs did the same.  

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txhorns79

txhorns79

On 1/15/2025 at 2:09 PM, Notabug said:

I had a friend from residency who practiced in Atlanta and she told me she never wore anything other than a skirt or dress to the office for her first 5 years in practice, all the female docs did the same.  

She must have caused quite the commotion on the days she came in never wearing anything other than a skirt. 

On 1/15/2025 at 9:34 AM, Notabug said:

My local public hospital has 100% private rooms for patients, BTW.  No room mates and certainly no wards.

I'm honestly surprised, if only because it doesn't seem particularly cost efficient for a public hospital to keep every patient in a private room. 

On 1/14/2025 at 9:37 AM, SeanBug said:

I went thru stuff with my father in his last decade, in and out of ERs, nursing homes etc. It was actually the nursing home who tried to talk us out of not honoring his DNR, because you lose a patient, you lose that $$ from Medicare. 

That's interesting.  Medicare doesn't typically pay for skilled nursing outside of short term rehab.  It's usually Medicaid the person is on for long term care, unless they are private pay or have some other form of insurance.

I deal with the end of life issues a lot in my work, and while I understand a child's inability to let go, it still frustrates me watching a person who has made their views clear through a DNR be put through something they didn't want for reasons that put their views second.    

SeanBug

SeanBug

11 hours ago, txhorns79 said:

She must have caused quite the commotion on the days she came in never wearing anything other than a skirt. 

I'm honestly surprised, if only because it doesn't seem particularly cost efficient for a public hospital to keep every patient in a private room. 

That's interesting.  Medicare doesn't typically pay for skilled nursing outside of short term rehab.  It's usually Medicaid the person is on for long term care, unless they are private pay or have some other form of insurance.

I deal with the end of life issues a lot in my work, and while I understand a child's inability to let go, it still frustrates me watching a person who has made their views clear through a DNR be put through something they didn't want for reasons that put their views second.    

I used the term "nursing home", as my father was in the  short term rehab wing, but it also had a long term nursing home wing. I had applied for Medicaid, he died before we needed it. 

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