S07.E01: The Shot

[Snazzy Daisy]

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Now recovering from a gunshot wound and feeling the effects of his age, John and the team welcome two new rookies and continue the hunt for two dangerous inmates with very personal vendettas following their prison escape.

Air Date: Jan 07, 2025

 

Ivan Hernandez in season 7 episode 1.

Lisseth Chavez as Celina Juarez, Patrick Keleher as Seth Ridley, and Deric Augustine as Miles Penn.

Eric Winter as Tim Bradford, Melissa O'Neil as Lucy Chen, and Deric Augustine as Miles Penn.

[Snazzy Daisy]

RECAP of last season's finale:

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The LAPD was infiltrated by a dirty rookie psychiatrist, Blair London, who sold officer secrets to Monica Stevens. Blair was arrested, Monica is somewhere running through the hills of Argentina, Nolan got shot in the ass, and the officer tapes are in the possession of the FBI. Meanwhile, Oscar Hutchinson and Jason Wyler (Bailey’s ex-husband) escape prison, leaving the season off with a cliffhanger.

Credit to: Spoiler TV

[preeya]

They may have used the season's entire "bullet budget" in this episode. The newbie rookie from Texas is annoying.

[shapeshifter]

8 hours ago, preeya said:

They may have used the season's entire "bullet budget" in this episode. The newbie rookie from Texas is annoying.

Seeing he’s living in his car means it’s false bravado. Should we place bets on whose roommate he’ll become?

Or is he supposed to be a mole for the criminals? Nah. They’d have paid him well enough for him to not be unhoused.

Edited January 8 by shapeshifter

[Netfoot]

So, in Episode #1 we start with a nuke. How do they ramp up from here?  Either an asteroid or space aliens. My guess: Aliens riding on an asteroid...

12 hours ago, preeya said:

The newbie rookie from Texas is annoying.

AF!

Edited January 8 by Netfoot

[KeithJ]

13 hours ago, preeya said:

They may have used the season's entire "bullet budget" in this episode. The newbie rookie from Texas is annoying.

Agreed.  I'd love to see him wash out very quickly.

What was with all the super low flying jets in the first scene? It just seemed unnecessary and a budget waster.  And, I know they do this in pretty much every cop show but, why are beat cops doing the job of SWAT?

[Netfoot]

58 minutes ago, KeithJ said:

What was with all the super low flying jets in the first scene?

They started by saying they would not have air-support because of the proximity to the airport. The shot with the low-flying aircraft was probably not be necessary, but emphasized this. I don't know that it was  something they would have to pay for. Just film in the right spot and there would be a plethora of low flying aircraft for them to film.

[milkyaqua]

All I could think of was please don't let us see Monica again, enough with Wesley's jealously, please let them hurry up and find Hutchinson and Wyler because I'm not interested in Nolan being worried about Bailey.

As for the rookies, meh.

[Snazzy Daisy]

Yeah, this is NOT a solid S07 premiere. 😣

Superwoman Bailey should be deployed with the National Guard FOREVER. Her absence is the best part of this episode.

Glad to hear that Aaron is happy at North Hollywood but am gonna miss him and his ride with Tim.

Am not invested in the story of 3 villains who are still out in the wind. They should’ve killed Bailey’s ex-husband a long time ago, a boring character.

The new rookies — The Ringer (Miles) and The Virgin (Seth) are kinda MEH. Their purpose is to support Chenford scenes so these 2 exes can continue with their casual flirtiness. 🙄

Anyway, congratulations Lieutenant Grey on your promotion! 👏🏻

[JamieLynn832002]

I feel like the ADA married to a detective at the precinct probably wouldn't be the one sent to make sure there's no further corruption from the evil psychologist/Monica situation. Especially if he used to be engaged to Monica and his wife considers one of the psycologist's patients family. 

[Jodithgrace]

Yeah, that whole situation is dodgy. I know that Wesley is the only lawyer in LA, well except for the crooked one running around South America, but it can’t possibly be ethical to have him listen to London’s therapy sessions when his own wife works at that precinct. Of course he’s going to hear things he shouldn’t. 
 

So we’re supposed to see obnoxious rookie bedding down in his car and think, “ah, that explains everything!”
 

Btw, The Cowboy and the Virgin is the title of my next album. 
 

Bailey’s away? Yay! She always reminds me of the old tv show, called oddly enough, The Rookies, where one of the rookies is married to the only nurse in LA. And it was a real problem for her patients because she was also always being taken hostage. Of course Bailey’s not merely an EMT, she’s also a firefighter and a soldier. Plus I’m sure she’s been taken hostage a time  or two, herself. Not to mention having been married to the world’s most dangerous criminal! 

[shapeshifter]

2 minutes ago, Jodithgrace said:

Bailey’s away? Yay!

Won’t 3 mentions of her name here summon her back?🧟‍♀️

[Raja]

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

Won’t 3 mentions of her name here summon her back?🧟‍♀️

Since I'm the board heretic who likes Bailey I'll do my part. 👍 

[bros402]

On 1/7/2025 at 9:30 PM, preeya said:

They may have used the season's entire "bullet budget" in this episode. The newbie rookie from Texas is annoying.

The show has only used air pistols since the Rust shooting - so no blanks anymore.

 

 

9 hours ago, JamieLynn832002 said:

I feel like the ADA married to a detective at the precinct probably wouldn't be the one sent to make sure there's no further corruption from the evil psychologist/Monica situation. Especially if he used to be engaged to Monica and his wife considers one of the psycologist's patients family. 

Yuuup, everyone in my house was yelling "CONFLICT OF INTEREST! CONFLICT OF INTEREST!"

[Raja]

42 minutes ago, bros402 said:

 

Yuuup, everyone in my house was yelling "CONFLICT OF INTEREST! CONFLICT OF INTEREST!"

Irrelevant, we're the good guys 

[Zaffy]

Oddly enough I wasn't annoyed by this episode. 

[NJRadioGuy]

It wasn't bad, but I'm honestly sick and tired of every bad guy having fully-automatic machine guns with unlimited rounds that are supposed to fire almost continuously. Something like a Mac-10 will fire close to 1,100 .45 caliber bullets every minute and would use up a magazine in continuous fire after a couple of seconds. That's a lot of reloading time, and they'd need a particularly strong henchman to just carry the dozens (hundreds?) of pre-loaded magazines to keep that rate up.

[MrWhyt]

On 1/8/2025 at 10:02 AM, Netfoot said:

Just film in the right spot and there would be a plethora of low flying aircraft for them to film.

yeah I've flown into LAX and it is disconcerting how it is right inside the city.

Edited Thursday at 05:13 PM by MrWhyt

[Netfoot]

26 minutes ago, MrWhyt said:

yeah I've flown into LAX and it is disconcerting how it is right inside the city.

I've stood in a parking lot in Miami and with one commercial airliner roaring past overhead so low it looked like I could hit it with a cricket ball, I looked back up the approach lane and saw six other planes on final. Seven planes on approach and visible at the same time.

I'm sure many large cities have expanded out to meet their once-distant airfield.

[Zaffy]

2 hours ago, NJRadioGuy said:

It wasn't bad, but I'm honestly sick and tired of every bad guy having fully-automatic machine guns with unlimited rounds that are supposed to fire almost continuously. Something like a Mac-10 will fire close to 1,100 .45 caliber bullets every minute and would use up a magazine in continuous fire after a couple of seconds. That's a lot of reloading time, and they'd need a particularly strong henchman to just carry the dozens (hundreds?) of pre-loaded magazines to keep that rate up.

I know nothing about guns but I was wondering what kind of weapon can carry so many bullets without reloading. It was pretty dumb.

[Netfoot]

3 hours ago, NJRadioGuy said:

I'm honestly sick and tired of every bad guy having fully-automatic machine guns with unlimited rounds that are supposed to fire almost continuously. Something like a Mac-10 will fire close to 1,100 .45 caliber bullets every minute and would use up a magazine in continuous fire after a couple of seconds. That's a lot of reloading time, and they'd need a particularly strong henchman to just carry the dozens (hundreds?) of pre-loaded magazines to keep that rate up.

Many years ago I had the opportunity to play with (but alas, not fire) a British-issued, WW-II vintage, Bren LMG (Light Machine Gun). It fired .303 ammunition from a 30 round box magazine at 500–520 rounds per minute. (Bren: An adaptation of a Czech weapons made in Brno, by Britiah British manufacturers in Enfield.)This weapon was designed with a quick-change barrel. When you were issued with the LMG you would receive a spare barrel.The reason for this is because after ten mags at rapid fire, you were supposed to swap out the barrels. (Which required you get up off your belly and on to your knees, thereby giving the enemy a perfect opportunity to blow your head off.)Why? Because after 10 magazines, the barrel would be too hot to touch (note handle to avoid burns while swapping barrels). So hot that when a round was chambered it was likely to fire spontaneously due to the heat, without anybody pulling the trigger and with no warning whatsoever. 

Also, according to the mutterings of the greybeards who were teaching me all this, continued firing without swapping barrels could lead to "barrel droop". A condition which distorted the barrel making the weapon unserviceable. Possibly leading to the gun blowing up in your face due to a round "cooking off" into a distorted barrel. (I never saw this in the official documents, so maybe it was just talk to emphasize the importance of changing barrels.)

I know from personal experience that just 5 rounds through a pistol barrel can leave it hot enough to be painful should you accidentally touch it. 

I think the take-away here is that any gun-lore you see on The Rookie is probably bullshit.

Edited Thursday at 07:51 PM by Netfoot

[Zaffy]

3 hours ago, Netfoot said:

I think the take-away here is that any gun-lore you see on The Rookie is probably bullshit.

I was curious enough to check a Mac-10 on you tube. They fire so fast, that the 32 rounds of each magazine last a few seconds, 1 or 2 secs, you blink and you miss at what you shoot at! The bad dude in Rookie should had been reloading every 3-4 secs. Instead we were watching him firing infinite rounds that apparently an invisible entity was reloading in his weapon 😁
But yeah, we will have the same silly "excuse", it is TV, it is fiction..
Fiction though does not necessary means unrealism or fairytales.
Last time I checked  The Rookie is not a cartoon or a fairytale or a fantasy story about ghosts reloading machine guns. 

[shapeshifter]

19 minutes ago, Zaffy said:

The bad dude in Rookie should had been reloading every 3-4 secs. Instead we were watching him firing infinite rounds that apparently an invisible entity was reloading in his weapon 😁

I multitask while watching this show. During the gunporn scenes I don't watch.

[Raja]

9 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

I multitask while watching this show. During the gunporn scenes I don't watch.

I think since the pilot episode and the first patrol gunfight The Rookie has been on the 6 shooter that never runs out of bullets with its gun porn scenes. Even shows like SEAL Team, S.W.A.T and The Unit aren't much better.

[Msample]

I cringed when in the “previously on” recap they showed Elijah. Please for the love of god, don’t bring him back.

[shapeshifter]

45 minutes ago, Msample said:

I cringed when in the “previously on” recap they showed Elijah. Please for the love of god, don’t bring him back.

Unless it's his not-evil twin

[Raja]

On 1/8/2025 at 11:58 PM, KeithJ said:

Agreed.  I'd love to see him wash out very quickly.

What was with all the super low flying jets in the first scene? It just seemed unnecessary and a budget waster.  And, I know they do this in pretty much every cop show but, why are beat cops doing the job of SWAT?

SWAT was there. The first guy through the door got hit and the patrol backup passed through to take over.

[Raja]

On 1/9/2025 at 7:21 AM, Jodithgrace said:

 

So we’re supposed to see obnoxious rookie bedding down in his car and think, “ah, that explains everything!”
 

Btw, The Cowboy and the Virgin is the title of my next album. 

It explains nothing. They put him from Sugar Land, an affluent Houston suburb but with his bull he came off like Deputy Enos leaving the Dukes of Hazard to go to LA to be the best. Since real life LAPD pays while you're in the academy, even if West and Smitty lived at the station parking lot, living on the street instead of a slum is still a why question.

[Slider]

3 hours ago, Raja said:

It explains nothing. They put him from Sugar Land, an affluent Houston suburb but with his bull he came off like Deputy Enos leaving the Dukes of Hazard to go to LA to be the best. Since real life LAPD pays while you're in the academy, even if West and Smitty lived at the station parking lot, living on the street instead of a slum is still a why question.

I was really intrigued by him.  His confidence being his undoing, but trying to walk the thin line of not a rookie, but still a rookie. 

The thing that annoyed me was the use of mouth wash before going to bed.  Your alone.  Why do you need mouth wash before you sleep?  Use it in the morning.  

[preeya]

15 minutes ago, Slider said:

The thing that annoyed me was the use of mouth wash before going to bed.  Your alone.  Why do you need mouth wash before you sleep?  Use it in the morning.  

Maybe it wasn't mouthwash. . . . . . .

[NJRadioGuy]

Another thing that bugged the hell out of me was that they couldn't use air support because of arrivals at LAX. Sorry Skippy but it doesn't work that way. Feds or even LAPD could easily tell LAX that they need to divert all arrivals to different runways because they need a TFR (Temporary Flight Restriction) for law enforcement ops.

LAX has four parallel runways, two south of the terminals, two to the north. Normally one north and one south are used for arrivals and, the other two (again, one north, one south) are for departures.  It's not fun for arrival controllers to sequence close-in parallel approaches, but it's done at SFO all the time, because their runways are close together. So put the arrivals on 24L/24R and departures on 25L and 25R for the duration of the TFR. No big deal. Wake turbulence departure holds would make for stupid-long taxi times for departures, but such is life in the world of pushing tin.

Not to mention that the FBI and LAPD also have lower-altitude drones they could launch for aerial surveilance.

[Raja]

On 1/10/2025 at 2:44 AM, Zaffy said:

I know nothing about guns but I was wondering what kind of weapon can carry so many bullets without reloading. It was pretty dumb.

"I ain't got time to bled" nudge a memory. How Jesse the body Ventura mananged to carry that thing normally mounted on a helicopter is a big question 

8 hours ago, Slider said:

I was really intrigued by him.  His confidence being his undoing, but trying to walk the thin line of not a rookie, but still a rookie. 

The thing that annoyed me was the use of mouth wash before going to bed.  Your alone.  Why do you need mouth wash before you sleep?  Use it in the morning.  

He looks all rookie that Sergeant Bradford has to break. Someone a Sheriff just handed a gun and badge and said "raise your hand, repeat after me you're a Deputy" level of training in Texas. And did not go through the LAPD academy but was sent out on probation with a new LAPD uniform.

[Jodithgrace]

I assume that homeless rookie used mouthwash before he went to bed because he had no place to brush his teeth, so rinsing out his mouth was the best he could do.

[shapeshifter]

9 hours ago, NJRadioGuy said:

Not to mention that the FBI and LAPD also have lower-altitude drones they could launch for aerial surveilance.

Good point. 
Has this show ever shown them using drones? 
They better get with the times.

[Raja]

43 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Good point. 
Has this show ever shown them using drones? 
They better get with the times.

Maybe S.W.A.T and SEAL Team have but I  can't think of any genre show which has upgraded the technology base 

[christie]

My question is how did the Texan get into LAPD if he's homeless? Don't you need to declare a home address in order to get a job? Isn't thus a problem that homeless people have in real life; they can't get a job because they don't have an address and, therefore, they can't get money in order to get off the streets.

[Raja]

26 minutes ago, christie said:

My question is how did the Texan get into LAPD if he's homeless? Don't you need to declare a home address in order to get a job? Isn't thus a problem that homeless people have in real life; they can't get a job because they don't have an address and, therefore, they can't get money in order to get off the streets.

All the background investigations would have been done in Texas. Sgt Friday gave an episode to the process on the color version of Dragnet. He gets the academy class assignment and give Texas his notice on his way to LA.

[christie]

17 minutes ago, Raja said:

All the background investigations would have been done in Texas. Sgt Friday gave an episode to the process on the color version of Dragnet. He gets the academy class assignment and give Texas his notice on his way to LA.

Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying (Sgt Friday? Dragnet?). He's not in Texas anymore, he has a job with the LAPD surely the LAPD would ask for a home address.

[Raja]

5 minutes ago, christie said:

Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying (Sgt Friday? Dragnet?). He's not in Texas anymore, he has a job with the LAPD surely the LAPD would ask for a home address.

He got the job then went to the academy. Now we have the upcoming drama repeating what they already did with West moving into the station parking lot in a trailer like Smitty's living arrangements 

[Attatude]

10 hours ago, christie said:

My question is how did the Texan get into LAPD if he's homeless? Don't you need to declare a home address in order to get a job? Isn't thus a problem that homeless people have in real life; they can't get a job because they don't have an address and, therefore, they can't get money in order to get off the streets.

I thought about the same thing.  It made him less obnoxious, though.

 

All prime time network TV shows were preempted for fire coverage in the Los Angeles area, so a lot of viewers didn’t get to see this or other network shows.  

[b4pjoe]

On 1/9/2025 at 9:57 AM, NJRadioGuy said:

It wasn't bad, but I'm honestly sick and tired of every bad guy having fully-automatic machine guns with unlimited rounds that are supposed to fire almost continuously. Something like a Mac-10 will fire close to 1,100 .45 caliber bullets every minute and would use up a magazine in continuous fire after a couple of seconds. That's a lot of reloading time, and they'd need a particularly strong henchman to just carry the dozens (hundreds?) of pre-loaded magazines to keep that rate up.

And never hit any of our heroes.

[Raja]

13 minutes ago, b4pjoe said:

And never hit any of our heroes.

That's why we have SWAT on shows not named SWAT.