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17 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:
23 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Yes, my mileage does vary. I have friends and relatives who have exhausting personalities, but I also understand that's who they are. The only deal breaker (for me) is if/when they fuck me over. Then there's no going back.

So you don't care if they fuck other people over?

Any relationship (other than mine) that my friend & relatives have with anyone else is none of my fuckin' business. I'm not their ombudsman.

16 hours ago, chitowngirl said:

Apple Maps app fell in line and it is now Gulf of America 😡

So what's the problem? Do you have something against America?

 

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US district judge Loren AliKhan:

It appears that OMB sought to overcome a judicially imposed obstacle without actually ceasing the challenged conduct. The court can think of few things more disingenuous.

Another federal judge, John Coughenour:

It has become ever more apparent that, to our president, the rule of law is but an impediment to his policy goals. The rule of law is, according to him, something to navigate around or simply ignore, whether that be for political or personal gain.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/12/trump-lawless-president

https://www.instagram.com/p/DF_HtIaNvih/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

 

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There’s constant chatter that democrats don’t have a leader, don’t have a message, were caught flat footed and have no strategy.

As far as a leader of the party anytime a young member of congress tries to assert their self they are swated down by the old guard who really have no stake in the future anymore 

Although I’ve seen and heard a lot from Chris Murphy lately it would be nice if other members like him would be more vocal everyday 

By the time we get to this fall with the midterms a year away the democrats better be flooding the airwaves and pounding the streets to have real solutions for the Americans that thought their lives were going to better with Trump in charge and not parading out the same old voices (including Kamala and Obama)

But after six months of finding out they’ve lost things they took for granted no longer exist for them I hope they’ll realize that sitting out an election or voting against their best interests to punish the other side is being ill informed and caused harm to all of us 

And thinking America can take over sovereign foreign countries and punishing Ukraine and the citizens of Gaza had bullying their neighbors is not IMO helping my life or anyone I know 

Maybe I’m wrong and everything will go swimmingly but just stupid stuff like thinking someone has the authority to change the name of an international body of water or taking over an renowned arts center is helping everyday citizens is not rational 

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Swalwell joined TikTok, and was posting videos on there.  I can’t remember if he was live, like AOC. 

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69583866/talbott-v-trump/

TALBOTT v. TRUMP (1:25-cv-00240)

District Court, District of Columbia

I’m trying to wake up, but this link was posted under a post from Patrick Tomlinson, when he stated the military are choosing to protect their trans members.  

This is what I saw from Swalwell, last week. https://www.tiktok.com/@swalwelleric/video/7468525887051353386

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6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:
22 hours ago, chitowngirl said:

Apple Maps app fell in line and it is now Gulf of America 😡

So what's the problem? Do you have something against America?

Since Trump renamed the Gulf of Mexico I would say he has something against Mexico.

1 hour ago, tres bien said:

But after six months of finding out they’ve lost things they took for granted no longer exist for them I hope they’ll realize that sitting out an election or voting against their best interests to punish the other side is being ill informed and caused harm to all of us 

Unfortunately I think for a lot of them it was to punish Democrats. They wanted them to fuck around and find out. And now we are all paying the price.  It always seems like Democrat politicians get punished for what they didn't do (paid family leave, public option for the ACA) rather than punishing the Republicans for what they did do (tax cuts for the rich, trying to repeal the ACA).  I have not always agreed with Democrats and have even refused to vote for certain Democratic candidates in my state (don't worry I didn't vote for the Rep. I wrote in my name) but overall they are much more in line with my beliefs than the Republicans could ever hope to be. 

1 hour ago, tres bien said:

Maybe I’m wrong and everything will go swimmingly but just stupid stuff like thinking someone has the authority to change the name of an international body of water or taking over an renowned arts center is helping everyday citizens is not rational 

I think we know things will not go swimmingly unless you mean gasping for breath as we try to not to drown. And I'm sure there are still enough of the MAGA base who is just happy Trump is "owning the libs" or "kicking ass and taking names (or changing names as the case may be)".  I mean really the bar is so low for him to achieve something that is base will cheer he could send a tweet with no misspellings and they think he is a genius.

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10 hours ago, SoMuchTV said:

I’m right there with you 99% of the way, but making reading a punishment just doesn’t feel right.

I did that with my son when he was a teenager.  I grounded him every way you could think of and nothing worked so I told him his punishment was he needed to read a book.  He chose the Outsiders by SE Hinton. He loved it (like mother like son) but unfortunately he didn't read any other books. To this day it still makes me sad he doesn't love to read like I do.

10 hours ago, tearknee said:

To be fair, courts have temporarily blocked the scheme, but lets be real, Trump does not care. He's also seeking to outsource the process to Central American countries like El Salvador.

I always assumed deportees that weren't deported to other countries would end up in for profit prisons  here. And that they would still do the jobs they did before only this time they wouldn't be paid. And they would have to live in a cell when they weren't working.  I won't be surprised if at some point this happens and Trump when explaining says it's a win win for everyone.  Yeah except for the person being detained held prisoner kept as a slave.

 

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12 hours ago, Blergh said:

Well, we employees got just a message from the CEO of my Southeast US hospital and boiled down to essentials due to Executive Orders, our hospital has been told to discontinue to have Diversity, Equity and Inclusion if it wants to keep receiving federal funds- although the CEO DID stress that we  still welcome will our patients and each other.

Yep, if I'm reading this correctly, it seems that despite our hospital running like a well-oiled machine having done its best to seek out the best, most qualified and most competent to take care of our patients- regardless of pigmentation,ethnicity or skin shape, now we're being told to stop that!  Does this mean that there will be no new hires of folks who aren't WASP males regardless of their qualifications, record or competence and what about the administrators, medical directors, doctors, researchers, managers,etc. who already work here who don't fit this myopic criteria? We have folks from virtually every background imaginable working together and things are doing well for our patients as a result!

We've also been told that support from NIH [National Institute of Health] grants is being reduced.

OK, I  just hope everyone who will have need to go to hospitals or clinics for treatments or checkups will somehow be okay despite the extra hoops the hospital and clinic staffs are now going to have to jump through that do absolutely NOTHING to improve health care or treatment.

I wish I could say I was surprised and I'm trying not to stress out (and doing all I can to support and encourage my fellow employees) but I'm downright APPALLED that  folks' livelihood are being put in limbo- to say nothing of patient care!

 

I would try not to stress. I reiterate to my colleagues that an executive order is not a law, and that in fact, obeying some of these executive orders is breaking actual laws & statutes. If employers are following any of these ridiculous EOs, they are liable to get sued. If it hasn't been approved by a court or Congress,  I'd take it with a grain of salt.

I think more than 20 universities have filed lawsuits about the indirect research funding cuts that the administration proposed. The proposed cuts would mean millions of dollars lost. 

I have a friend with colleagues who work in DEI and so far they are still presenting and doing business as normal. For example, Emory was pretty big on DEI before Biden’s presidency. It’s listed as a metric on their performance reviews.

I know the healthcare field is under attack right now,  but if Costco, Apple or the airlines can ignore the bullies and survive (so far) without having to amend their policies, then others can try too.

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27 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Seriously, can we not turn this stupid idea to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico into some kind of anti-American thing? Not even remotely the point of our complaints. At all. Let's not play coy here. 

I have a coworker who said the name change didn't bother him.  I said the issue isn't the name change.  It's everyone capitulating to him and lining up to do whatever he says.

28 minutes ago, Anela said:

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I got that from twitter, or threads.  

Many many years ago at a different job I called the assistant manager an asshole.  He of course tattled to our manager and when my manager came to work the next day he asked me if I had called the assistant manager an asshole and I said yes I did.  My manager said well yes he is but don't call him that again.

36 minutes ago, Eri said:

I have a friend with colleagues who work in DEI and so far they are still presenting and doing business as normal.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Trump and his stupid EOs can't stop companies or institutions from implementing DEI right?  All he is doing is making it not mandated.

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3 hours ago, tres bien said:

Maybe I’m wrong and everything will go swimmingly but just stupid stuff like thinking someone has the authority to change the name of an international body of water or taking over an renowned arts center is helping everyday citizens is not rational 

I'm sure you agree, but I don't think renaming the Gulf is intended to help everyday citizens of the US no matter how he tries to spin it. It was obviously done spitefully to intimidate Mexico. Psychological intimidation. And that's not rational nor does it get him anywhere. There are more civilized ways of getting other countries to agree to better terms for the U.S. All this does is piss them off and make them dig in their heels. And all of us citizens have to pay for that.

Even if Trump had a point that we needed to get better terms from Mexico, this is just about the WORST way to go about doing that. He still acts like a schoolyard bully and it's embarrassing. The U.S. should be above that kind of behavior. It makes us look bad and nobody is going to want to deal with us. He thinks he can win by intimidation but I don't see them just bellying up for him, or if they do it will be temporary and in the meantime they'll find another way to get him back. Same with Greenland. And again, we will all suffer for it.

7 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

So what's the problem? Do you have something against America?

See above. I have nothing against the name per sé but in light of the motive I believe was behind it I'm not on board with it. I don't believe there was anything positive intended by it and there was no real need to change it. He just wanted to show Mexico "who's boss". 🙄 Does America need that badly to aggrandize itself that it needs to change the name to something else? He really needs to grow up. Sadly, it's way too late for that.

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8 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

So what's the problem? Do you have something against America?

 

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Canadian residents are racing to save the data in Trump's crosshairs :  Guerilla effort underway to preserve medical, environmental data from deletion

 

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An analysis by the New York Times identified thousands of pages taken down in the days following Trump's inauguration, in part as a result of Trump's executive order targeting diversity initiatives.

Among the pages observers have seen disappear are ones that monitor HIV infections, deal with health risks for youth and contain census data, education data and information about assisted reproduction technologies. A website containing the names of those charged in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol was also removed. 

 

Proud to say I have several friends involved in this initiative and for all we dump on the mainstream media kudos to the New York Times and our own CBC here in Canada for making sure this kind of totalitarian atrocity is not being hidden away.

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8 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

So what's the problem? Do you have something against America?

My problem is with stupid, empty, jingoistic gestures when there are real problems to be solved.  It's too pathetic to really get outraged over.  We're going to call it a new name that is not recognized anywhere outside of America just because Trump doesn't like Mexico.

And perusing Wikipedia, the gulf has been called various names over the centuries.  Among them: Sea of the North, Gulf of Florida, Gulf of Cortés, Gulf of St. Michael, Yucatán Sea, Cathayan Sea, Mexican Sound, the Great Antillian Gulf and the Gulf of New Spain.  The Mayans would have called it something like K'ak'nab or K'anaab, so maybe we should go back to that.

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1 minute ago, Lugal said:

My problem is with stupid, empty, jingoistic gestures when there are real problems to be solved.  It's too pathetic to really get outraged over.  We're going to call it a new name that is not recognized anywhere outside of America just because Trump doesn't like Mexico.

This.  It's also like him "banning" paper straws (apparently according to him they've been know to blow up) it's trivial in the grand scheme of everything he's doing but it just exhausting wading through the trivial to focus on the truly world alteringly significant.

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1 minute ago, Dimity said:

This.  It's also like him "banning" paper straws (apparently according to him they've been know to blow up) it's trivial in the grand scheme of everything he's doing but it just exhausting wading through the trivial to focus on the truly world alteringly significant.

I know this is probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but I thought the whole bandwagon to get rid of plastic straws was well intended but not the big fish that should be targeted. There are bigger offenders to go after with regard to plastic waste. But stuff like that sticks in Trump's craw because he saw it as some kind of "liberal virtue signaling". But in his case he doesn't care about the environment at all so he just sees it all as liberal hypocrites latching onto something trivial to show the world that they're doing something to save the environment. And I hate to say it but I do think that was the case in some cases. Some of these people's carbon footprint is atrocious. But I just think there are bigger things to target, not that we shouldn't find ways to limit plastic waste. And there will always be hypocrites, but that shouldn't deter us from trying to save the planet.

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2 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

But stuff like that sticks in Trump's craw because he saw it as some kind of "liberal virtue signaling".

Whatever his motivation it's yet another example of his lying on a grand scale.  Does he actually believe what he says is true?  I don't know.  They do say that liars who lie the way he does (as in if he's talking, he's lying) do start to believe their own lies.  But who knows. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

But in his case he doesn't care about the environment at all so he just sees it all as liberal hypocrites latching onto something trivial to show the world that they're doing something to save the environment.

It's not just that he doesn't care about the environment it's that a lot of things needing to be done to save our planet will hurt the bottom line of fossil fuel companies that donate money to him and other Republicans.  As with everything related to Trump it's always about money.

24 minutes ago, Lugal said:

My problem is with stupid, empty, jingoistic gestures when there are real problems to be solved.  It's too pathetic to really get outraged over.  We're going to call it a new name that is not recognized anywhere outside of America just because Trump doesn't like Mexico.

He knows this stuff plays well with his base.  Despite his expensive college education he has the intelligence of someone who couldn't pass a GED test. So that is one reason he talks about simple things like renaming a body of water. Or says drill baby drill when asked how he was going to get rid of inflation.

RFK Jr was confirmed.  Sure hope a new virus doesn't emerge. Parents vaccine your kids while you can.

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17 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's not just that he doesn't care about the environment it's that a lot of things needing to be done to save our planet will hurt the bottom line of fossil fuel companies that donate money to him and other Republicans.  As with everything related to Trump it's always about money.

Oh for sure, but he and the right in general see rich liberals as big hypocrites because they benefit from those fossil fuel companies, either by financial gain from them or by usage which is larger than for the average person. So they see the big show they make about straws and such as hypocritical. But every effort we make is for the betterment of the world, although I agree that some people need to make a bigger effort than they are based on the size of their carbon footprint. And if they are benefitting from stocks and other things that come from fossil fuels they need to make some changes there too. But Trump and the Republicans are hardly the people justified to call others hypocrites, so that's definitely not lost on me. They should take the logs out of their own eyes first.

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2 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but Trump and his stupid EOs can't stop companies or institutions from implementing DEI right?  All he is doing is making it not mandated.

That's right. He cannot stop them, but his vengeful pettiness alone is causing some companies/institutions to make sure they don’t get caught in his crosshairs (if they're heavily reliant on federal funding that is).

Executive orders tell the executive branch how to enforce existing laws, not private companies. Employers can still be prosecuted for violating the Equal Employement Opportunity Act and any state discrimination laws in effect. An executive order won't protect you in court for violating civil rights.

It’s why I'm so boggled that companies are rolling over to acquiesce this farce; no one has to follow illegal orders (see also Nuremburg).

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I live in LA. Today I paid $4.29 a gallon for gas and that's at the cheap station. Elsewhere it's in the $4.59-$4.79 range. The prices have gone up every week since Trump has taken over. Eggs at Ralphs are $7.99. $8.99 if you want a dozen organic. A couple of specials where you can get 18 for $10-$13.99 depending on the brand. $7.49 for our usual whole grain bread. We're cutting out our cold brew plus my once a week Starbucks that I have while I wait for my daughter to finish a therapy session.

We're really going to have to commit to doing the bulk of our shopping at Costco even though it's pain in the ass for us for several reasons. Also, getting gas at Costco is the only thing that makes sense at this point. Ralphs (Kroger) is just completely outrageous. Trader Joe's is somewhat affordable depending on what you're buying, but it's not a good place to do a big shopping trip if you're trying to be conservative with spending. 

At least I can rest easy knowing that the Gulf of Mexico is listed as the Gulf of America on Google Maps. /s

It's going to be a long four years. When I asked my mom why Trump hasn't been able to make groceries more affordable she said 'Give him time. The Democrats are doing everything they can to make sure he doesn't succeed.' *sigh* I held my tongue and didn't point out that he said prices would go down immediately just by him being in office. I also didn't bother to ask what it is she thinks the Democrats are doing to prevent him from keeping his promise about lowering the price of groceries. It's just become impossible to have a sensible conversation about anything political, so I mostly refrain but sometimes it's really, really hard to accept that she believes this stuff. It's like she's a different person than the one who raised me. It make me so sad, it's hard to put into words. 

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22 minutes ago, jennifer6973 said:

There used to be, back in the early 90s

I was thinking about all the Republicans who still worship at the altar of Reagan. How can they be okay with Trump getting us into an unnecessary trade war with countries that are supposed to be our allies? Reagan is on record saying that getting into a trade war with allies is a road to weakening our economy. 

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In four years when the Dems take back the White House I hope they move a lot quicker than they did last time in holding these people accountable for the things they have done, are doing, and will continue to do, in their efforts to turn the US into a fascist country.

I also wish that our provincial premiers would stop going to Washington to state their cases against tariffs.  Trump is laughing at them.  He certainly isn't listening.  He loves the attention and he's gloating over his ability to get people dancing to his tune.  So fellow Canadians please stop giving the baby the attention he craves.  Accept that Trump will be Trump and no sensible arguments are going to change that man's mind on anything.  He's on his vengeance tour and if the whole world catches fire he doesn't give a damn.

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7 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

I was thinking about all the Republicans who still worship at the altar of Reagan. How can they be okay with Trump getting us into an unnecessary trade war with countries that are supposed to be our allies? Reagan is on record saying that getting into a trade war with allies is a road to weakening our economy. 

Since 2016, Republicans have said they'd rather be Russian, than a Democrat. 

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33 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Turns out the only sane republican is Mitch McConnell 

He is not sane. He is just doing this stuff as a big fuck you to Trump.

19 minutes ago, Eri said:

Employers can still be prosecuted for violating the Equal Employement Opportunity Act and any state discrimination laws in effect.

How long before he wants to get rid of that too?  We can all see what he is doing.  This is his version of ethnic cleansing. 

4 minutes ago, Anela said:

Since 2016, Republicans have said they'd rather be Russian, than a Democrat. 

There was some Republican on a news show last night talking about Trump and Putin "negotiating" to end the war in Ukraine.  This idiot whoever he was said Putin is feeling some remorse and is now trying to right things. These people are delusional if they think Putin is feeling anything other than vengeful and power hungry. His plan has always been to restore the Soviet Empire and he will try to demolish anyone or anything that stands in his way.

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What will the Supremes say?

Missouri AG sues Starbucks, says workforce is ‘more female and less white’

The federal lawsuit filed Tuesday by Andrew Bailey, a Republican, accuses Starbucks of engaging in “systemic racial, sexual, and sexual orientation discrimination” through hiring quotas, advancement opportunities and board membership.

Such practices force Missouri consumers to “pay higher prices and wait longer for goods and services,” he argued, because making hiring decisions “on non-merit considerations will skew the hiring pool towards people who are less qualified to perform their work.” He did not provide evidence of how this would pass on increased costs to consumers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/13/starbucks-dei-diversity-missouri-hiring-andrew-bailey/

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5 minutes ago, suomi said:

What will the Supremes say?

Missouri AG sues Starbucks, says workforce is ‘more female and less white’

The federal lawsuit filed Tuesday by Andrew Bailey, a Republican, accuses Starbucks of engaging in “systemic racial, sexual, and sexual orientation discrimination” through hiring quotas, advancement opportunities and board membership.

Such practices force Missouri consumers to “pay higher prices and wait longer for goods and services,” he argued, because making hiring decisions “on non-merit considerations will skew the hiring pool towards people who are less qualified to perform their work.” He did not provide evidence of how this would pass on increased costs to consumers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/13/starbucks-dei-diversity-missouri-hiring-andrew-bailey/

He is telling us he is a racist misogynistic homophobe without using the words.

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26 minutes ago, suomi said:

Missouri AG sues Starbucks, says workforce is ‘more female and less white’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/13/starbucks-dei-diversity-missouri-hiring-andrew-bailey/

An astute WaPo commenter notes that the nursing home industry is overwhelmingly staffed by females, especially WOC, and wonders when this will be addressed.

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2 minutes ago, suomi said:

An astute WaPo commenter notes that the nursing home industry is overwhelmingly staffed by females, especially WOC, and wonders when this will be addressed.

My MIL's residence, ranging from independent living to memory care, had put out a statement that they will support DEI policies. It affects over 30 (maybe as many as 50) facilities throughout the state. It's not much, but it's something. 

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1 hour ago, Dimity said:

This was the one appointment I thought the saner Senate republicans would have turned thumbs down on.  I guess my first mistake was believing there are any sane Senate republicans.

I keep saying they have been intimidated into cooperating.  I only have second hand word on this but why else?  Primaried is one thing - threats are another.

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7 hours ago, Anela said:

With everything he’s doing, I think trump has something against America. 

Especially red state Americans - tariffs, farmers losing USAID sales, and now the Department of Education on the chopping block, an agency where the majority of funding goes to red states. Trump is rapidly creating a red state underclass full of less prosperous, less educated workers who will have no choice but to do the shit jobs corporate America needs done for a non-union wage. MAGA was so busy "owning the libs" they didn't realize they were blowing up their own lives instead.  Data (USA facts.org):

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(Calling it now: the next "blame everybody else" MAGA conspiracy will be that "the elites" wanted Trump in power all along, and MAGA got tricked by the deep state/libs into voting against their own best interests.)

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6 minutes ago, anony.miss said:

Trump is creating a red state underclass full of less prosperous, less educated workers who will have no choice but to do the shit jobs corporate America needs done for a non-union wage. MAGA was so busy  "owning the libs" they didn't realize they were blowing up their own lives along the way. 

I live in one of those states and the denial is strong.  His base still thinks there is some great renaissance coming and mills and factories are going to open back up and they are going to get well paying jobs with great benefits they will be able to retire from.  So many of them remind me of Cousin Eddie from the Vacation movies who was always unemployed because he was holding out for a management position. 

And speaking of red states it would seem some red state politicians like Mitch McConnell and Susan Collins and Katie Britt among others are quite peeved that Trump's tariffs and proposed spending cuts are going to adversely affect their states.  Guess those damn leopards are still roaming free.

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29 minutes ago, suomi said:

An astute WaPo commenter notes that the nursing home industry is overwhelmingly staffed by females, especially WOC, and wonders when this will be addressed.

Nurses are also notoriously underpaid, understaffed and overworked.  It is also still a predominantly female field so I can see nurses not being too affected because the idiots in charge see it as one of those positions where women are "in their rightful place."

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8 minutes ago, kittykat said:

Nurses are also notoriously underpaid, understaffed and overworked.  It is also still a predominantly female field so I can see nurses not being too affected because the idiots in charge see it as one of those positions where women are "in their rightful place."

The same can be said about teachers. 

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