Chit-Chat: The Feels

Dimity · February 8

1 minute ago, Bastet said:

The only harassment or assault that happens in any notable numbers in public restrooms is that of transgender or nonbinary people, not by them.

I raised a son and a daughter. I never once worried when my daughter went into a women's washroom or changing room without me. On the other hand I was the Mom standing right outside the men's room door whenever my son was in there without his dad. I was not worried about a transgender person assaulting him. Never even crossed my mind.

Browncoat · February 8

I worry more about whether or not the other person in the bathroom will wash their hands. It never fails to astonish me how many people just walk out of the stall and out of the bathroom without so much as pausing at the sinks.

Dimity · February 8

54 minutes ago, ebk57 said:

It's developed. I'm so, so, so sad about this...

Is this an actual post made by Trump? It sounds like someone mocking him. If it's legit him how do people take this megalomaniac seriously?

Notabug · February 8

4 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Is this an actual post made by Trump? It sounds like someone mocking him. If it's legit him how do people take this megalomaniac seriously?

CNN and multiple other news outlets say that it is indeed Trump who posted that statement.

Lugal · February 8

9 hours ago, tres bien said:

He still “insults” President Obama by him using his middle name because he felt mocked at the WH Correspondents dinner in 2012

He also used "Palestinian" as a slur against Biden in the June debate and possibly against Chuck Schumer on Truth Social on Thursday.

suomi · February 8

4 hours ago, Dimity said:

Not just sports. The obsession with the idea that men are putting on a dress in order to attack women in washrooms is just bizarre. First and most obviously you don't have to be trans to put on a dress and go into a woman's washroom. You don't even have to put on the dress. As I said, bizarre.

This is true. Men all over this planet have the freedumb to attack women, girls, toddlers and infants anywhere, for any reason or no reason, without a dress code.

Annber03 · February 8

1 hour ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

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I've had so many debates on Twitter with idiotic people - men and women - who come up with so many excuses as to why they are so obsessed with transwomen in particular. It's not that I want to see transmen picked on any more than they already are, but I've talked to so many people who whine about how this is all about feminism and men are trying to make females disappear, and when I ask about transmen and if they're trying to make men disappear they either ignore it or come up with some lame reason why transwomen are somehow more dangerous. When it comes to "saving women's sports," I think it's mostly White Karens who wanted to use any excuse for why they didn't make it farther in their sport or men who are creepily obsessed with it - which is why it's fully up the FIC's alley. Neither transmen (who do participate in sports, too) nor transwomen are taking over sports, especially the more popular sports.

The "saving women's sports" one is especially hilarious considering those same people never seem to make a peep about actual issues affecting women's sports. Like, say, fair and equal pay, equal respect and treatment in terms of deals and media coverage and so on, the issue of women being sexually harassed and assaulted by men (like, say, the big abuse scandal that hit gymnastics a few years ago).

Nope. Only when transgender women want to enter the sport do they suddenly care about "saving women's sports".

I also love the people who talk about having transgender women in sports causes an "unfair playing field" and how they should have their own special events and so on. I just keep thinking, "Oh, now you want things to be fair (or at least, their definition of "fair", which basically means anything that coddles non-transgender people's feelings of discomfort)? Gosh, how very 'participation trophy' of you."

(We won't even get into the fact that so many of the same people who rail against transgender people in sports will bend over backwards to make excuses for athletes who took steroids and whose records might be tainted because of that, or teams that were caught cheating to win games, or things of that sort. But sure, people, tell me more about how you just want things to be "fair".)

Avaleigh · February 8

7 hours ago, Lugal said:

But I think there's an underlying sexism in the idea that a man will always beat a woman in any given sport. While I have seen studies that show that transwomen can retain a higher level of strength, for the first 3 years after transitioning at least, strength is not the sole determining factor in most sports (not even in boxing, really). If I were to fight Ronda Rousey, I wouldn't stand a chance despite being a man with a good six inches and probably sixty pounds on her.

Agreed that men aren't necessarily going to beat women in every sport or in every match up. It depends on a variety of factors. There are records in skiing, gymnastics, and in swimming, just to name a few examples, where women have outperformed men.

That being said, at the end of the day, there's a reason why men and women compete separately in sports. It gives more opportunities for women to succeed, and this is, of course, important for women and girls for a variety of reasons. If you look at something like the LA or NYC Marathons, there has yet to be a woman who has beaten the men's record. Even when it comes to something like the "gender challenge" in the marathon, the women are given a head start in order to make it fair. For sports like the long jump or the high jump, the world records have been set by men.

In figure skating, there are dozens of men who can do quadruple jumps. It's become common for men to perform multiple quads in a program. There's even a man who is consistently doing a quad axel. Meanwhile, it's still relatively uncommon to see a woman do a triple axel. Currently, there are only three women this season who can do it and only one who's nailing it consistently. (I'm excluding the Russians who aren't competing this season. Also, the Russians may or may not be guilty of using PEDs. Kamila Valieva is likely just one example.)

I don't think it's sexist to say that men sometimes/often have an advantage over women when it comes to a variety of sports.

Regarding high school sports, I think it's important for there to be separate categories for men and women because of the scholarship opportunities that are offered. I wouldn't want to see sports become unisex because I think this would lead to fewer opportunities for women.

As for trans athletes, I haven't seen any evidence that allowing trans athletes to compete will necessarily lead to unfairness for female athletes.

Regarding the Olympics, I don't understand why there's resistance to having a trans division. I actually think it would go a long way to bringing positive exposure for trans athletes and the trans community in general. There would be more medal opportunities, and it would give the world a chance to get to know and root for various trans athletes. There would also be the added benefit of not having transphobic people attempting to tarnish an athlete's win with accusations of unfairness.

PRgal · February 8

Some inter-school sports are co-ed from the get-go. The league my son's school is in offers co-ed Ultimate, curling, badminton and cross country running. Snowboarding is also available as a co-ed sport. Single sex schools double up as one team.

fastiller · February 8

Great videos by Led by Donkeys.

nokat · February 8

4 hours ago, Dimity said:

Thank god he's on top of things. Jeeze louise you can't make this crap up!

Now some of you northerners thought we could protect ourselves from the shitstorm with these imported plasticky things called umbrellas. Thank you very much while I hold a toilet paper made one over my head./s

nokat · February 8

4 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

The old money New York society saw him for exactly what he was. A new money parvenue. Crass, uncultured and dishonest. They would have nothing to do with him and I'm sure he's had a vendetta against them for decades.

Honey, he doesn't have enough old money to get in that crowd, and he hates it.

ProudMary · February 8

From Governor JB Pritzger's BlueSky account. Trolling level: Expert. 👏

"An important announcement from the Governor of Illinois."

https://bsky.app/profile/jbpritzker.bsky.social/post/3lhmh6zhpr22h

(Video length: One minute)

anony.miss · February 8

9 hours ago, Dimity said:

The obsession with the idea that men are putting on a dress in order to attack women in washrooms is just bizarre.

Beyond bizarre.

Once Trump voters decided to support a man found liable for raping E. Jean Carroll, they lost any standing to discuss the dangers of sexual predators, imo. You can't elevate a proven rapist to the highest office in the land while also criticizing trans people for (supposedly) committing sexual assault in public bathrooms.

Edited February 8 by anony.miss

Salacious Kitty · February 8

My God. Iive in one of the most sexually open areas of the country (SF Bay Area,). I have NEVER been afraid in a public restroom, and yes, I've shared them with trans women and drag queens.

It's just ridiculous fear mongering.

Soapy Goddess · February 8

18 hours ago, Annber03 said:

I don't think the price of eggs was the reason she lost.

Nor do I. I was simply replying to someone else who posted that thought.

18 hours ago, Annber03 said:

the fact that you keep harping on about her laugh while shrugging off Trump's insane ramblings just speaks volumes about how insane this whole situation is. People's cividl and human ights are under attack, we've lost the respect of our allies,

No, we haven't lost the respect of our allies. In fact, we've gained the respect of potential adversaries. In 3 weeks times, Trump has met with just about every leader in these countries. He's making deals to help keep peace in our country and avoid WW3.

18 hours ago, Annber03 said:

...and you're bugged about Kamala's laugh? Really? That's more of a concern to you than all of the above?

And yoyu wonder why people can't take those defending Trump seriously or get upset with them?

Let's just say that I'm bugged about her stupid laugh in the same way that libs are bugged about Trump's sex life. Nothing ANY of us can do to change that.

Soapy Goddess · February 8

18 hours ago, Yeah No said:

He's always working off this massive grudge against Democrats

I don't blame him one iota. They went after him with a vengeance, including multiple impeachments, lawsuits, trials, etc. If he hadn't announced early that he was going to run for a 2nd term, half of that shit would never have come to fruition. I mean seriously...because he put Stormy's fee in the wrong column?

18 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Do they tell their kids not to be like him but he's still doing right for the country anyway?

Nowadays I don't think they're telling their kids anything! Kids from 5 and up all have world news in their hot little hands. And they pretty much have come to their own conclusion. The age of innocence that we once knew is sadly gone.

18 hours ago, Yeah No said:

And don't tell me that Biden, Harris and all the other Democrats are just as bad because they are not anywhere near as corrupt

Agree to disagree. They're spending was out of control. Billions of dollars wasted on ridiculous programs...all sparking rumors of kickbacks. I mean come on...did we really need to fund Iraqi Sesame Street?

Soapy Goddess · February 8

10 hours ago, Dimity said:

And any man who gets his jollies dressing as a woman so he can listen to women pee or passes as a woman to get into their changing room because he wants to assault a woman isn't going to be deterred by Trump announcing there are officially two genders.

No, but they could be arrested. Whereas a trans with male parts sanctioned to play in women's sports cannot.

9 hours ago, suomi said:

Not a threesome. Intimate time with both brothers but the encounters were separated by weeks or months.

That's not what I heard. Maybe it was at the orgy. Regardless, in the grand scheme of things, does it really matter?

Soapy Goddess · February 8

4 hours ago, anony.miss said:

Once Trump voters decided to support a man found liable for raping E. Jean Carroll, they lost any standing to discuss the dangers of sexual predators, imo.

Speaking of EJC, does anyone find it interesting that she decided to file a lawsuit after 20+ years? And coincidentally when DJT announces he's running again? Things that make you go hmmmm....

tearknee · February 8

E. Jean Carroll was undoubtedly *used* by the left but that does NOT mean that she was not telling the truth. The fact that she has largely been abandoned by them, now that she is no longer useful, confirms my assessment.

Your suffering being used as a political tool to hurt an enemy isn't confined to the far right using a Schiavo and etc.

Edited February 8 by tearknee

Annber03 · February 8

2 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

No, we haven't lost the respect of our allies. In fact, we've gained the respect of potential adversaries. In 3 weeks times, Trump has met with just about every leader in these countries. He's making deals to help keep peace in our country and avoid WW3.

There is just absolutely zero truth to any of this. The rest of the world that isn't being run by insane dictators is looking at our country in horror and wondering what the hell we're doing.

He's gained the "respect" of dictators because they know he'll do their awful bidding and he will sell out our country to them for his own financial gain. Period. End of story.

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Let's just say that I'm bugged about her stupid laugh in the same way that libs are bugged about Trump's sex life. Nothing ANY of us can do to change that.

Except Kamala's laugh doesn't harm anyone, whereas Trump has numerous sexual assault allegations against him.

But sure, yeah, the two things are totally the same. Mmhm.

PRgal · February 8

6 hours ago, ProudMary said:

From Governor JB Pritzger's BlueSky account. Trolling level: Expert. 👏

"An important announcement from the Governor of Illinois."

https://bsky.app/profile/jbpritzker.bsky.social/post/3lhmh6zhpr22h

(Video length: One minute)

Does he do this often because I would not be able to keep a straight face.

Anela · February 8

2 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Speaking of EJC, does anyone find it interesting that she decided to file a lawsuit after 20+ years? And coincidentally when DJT announces he's running again? Things that make you go hmmmm....

No, I don't. Women are shamed out of coming forward. I do find it strange that people would vote for a man that a judge decided had sexually assaulted her.

Edited February 8 by Anela

tearknee · February 8

27 minutes ago, Anela said:

[..] I do find it strange that people would vote for a man that a judge decided had sexually assaulted her.

people who are dedicated to causes and ideologies [like social justice] are not most people/voters.

most people decide by emotion. If the BTK killer was a candidate but was making *most voters* feel happy... yes :'(

1 hour ago, tres bien said:

There’s a fine line between being delusional and being ignorant

Just wondering... me? Or voters?

EtheltoTillie · February 8

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/08/opinion/trump-power-surrender.html?unlocked_article_code=1.vU4.OcYp.7fTTx02C8Ilg&smid=url-share

Here's a gifted link to the NYT. This is must reading about how a dictator can take over.

Anela · February 8

23 minutes ago, tearknee said:

people who are dedicated to causes and ideologies [like social justice] are not most people/voters.

most people decide by emotion. If the BTK killer was a candidate but was making *most voters* feel happy... yes :'(

Just wondering... me? Or voters?

There's so much concern about trans-women being in bathrooms, though. You would think they wouldn't be voting for someone who was accused of rape, by more than one woman.

I also don't see that she's been abandoned by anyone.

Edited February 8 by Anela

suomi · February 8

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

That's not what I heard. Maybe it was at the orgy. Regardless, in the grand scheme of things, does it really matter?

Exaggeration always matters, if accuracy is a priority. Statements without accuracy are just noise.

Dimity · February 8

3 hours ago, tres bien said:

There’s a fine line between being delusional and being ignorant

Trump is both.

abbyzenn · February 8

Since Congress is responsible for each agency's funding I'd say they've been derelict in their duties.

I didn't work for USAID nor do I know anyone that did but it looks to me as if it does do some good. I still think stopping everything and throwing almost all staff out of work and then as Rubio has said taking a look at the programs and deciding what should be continued is the wrong way to do things.

Trump cares so much about fraud that he pardoned a man who at the time (and maybe still) was considered to have committed the biggest medicare fraud.

This is small potatoes but since this administration is so hot on waste it's been reported that Hegseth is moving into a house on a military base for which over $137000 has been spent refurbishing it including $50,000 for "emergency painting." $50,000 for painting?????

And how wasteful is it to offer feds to stop working now but pay them until September? Of course it will be shocking if they actually get paid until September.

How much money is going to be wasted investigating the investigators? Should no one have investigated the actions of Jan 6? Is it now okay to destroy property and attack policemen?

Just like it's okay for the President to take classified documents with him despite the law? And when asked to return them refuse to do so and try to hide them. How was trying to get those documents back persecuting him?????

And this admin cares so much about us little guys that they're going to abolish the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Between this and action Bondi is taking over at Justice it's going to be free reign for businesses.

But on the positive side Trump is able to find the time to be chairman of the Kennedy Center (any bets there will be a name change soon) and establish a task force to take on the "war against Christians."

Notabug · February 8

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

He cared enough about the young girls to stop boys from entering their sports activities. This is just one example. Given time, I'm sure they'll be more.

How big a problem was this? How many transgender kids were playing in organized sports? Amongst teens, fewer than 1% identify as transgender and the number of younger kids in that category is miniscule.

Even presuming that every single transgender kid, male and female, wanted to play organized sports, I am not seeing how this was ever going to be the massive issue that the right claims it already is, especially since around half of those kids are female to male. Nor do I think anyone is going to decide to transition in order to play girls' sports at a higher level.

Also, every person has their own level of skill and talent and, when it comes to sport, some of that is based on physical characteristics. Should Simone Biles be banned from gymnastics because she has a petite, muscular frame that is ideal for the sport? Michael Phelps' long arms give him a wingspan in the pool that greatly contributed to his success; should we take his gold medals because it wasn't fair?

There is a need to do more studies to assess the benefits and drawbacks to athletic competition between trans and cis gender people, but, in the long run, the fact of the matter is that virtually no one is going to be affected by the presence of trans athletes in the first place.

I won't get into using hormone blockers in prepubertal males transitioning except to say that, because their testosterone production is blocked, they will not have the muscle mass of a typical boy their age. I've got a whole lot of reservations about using these meds in children, but creating elite trans athletes isn't one of them.

krankydoodle · February 8

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

No, we haven't lost the respect of our allies. In fact, we've gained the respect of potential adversaries. In 3 weeks times, Trump has met with just about every leader in these countries. He's making deals to help keep peace in our country and avoid WW3.

If you don't mind my asking, where do you get your news from?

Kemper · February 8

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

Trump is both.

You are right. But sadly, Delusional and Ignorant are not the worst things he is. They are almost benign.

Dimity · February 8

18 minutes ago, Kemper said:

You are right. But sadly, Delusional and Ignorant are not the worst things he is. They are almost benign.

I keep going back and reading that post he made about the Kennedy Centre and wondering how anyone can support this man. He is right out there, front and centre, showing us his giant ego and his over inflated sense of self importance. It would be funny if it wasn't so terrifying.

suomi · February 8

48 minutes ago, abbyzenn said:

I didn't work for USAID nor do I know anyone that did but it looks to me as if it does do some good.

USAID and the Peace Corps were created by JFK in 1961 via executive orders.

He was perhaps the most well-traveled individual of his era to serve in Congress (US Representative and US Senator). After visiting numerous countries and territories during the 1940s and 1950s he realized that colonialism was a thing of the past. As a US President he knew it was the highest form of hypocrisy to be leading a former colony while denying freedom to others who wanted to create and live in independent nations. He also knew that a region's individuals and natural resources were of equal value and that both were up for grabs during independence movements. During and after those struggles would they move into our orbit or into Russia's orbit?

To this day, USAID's food and medicine missions are the foundation of how America and Americans are viewed by millions of people in need all over the world. JFK knew that clean drinking water and vaccinations and mosquito nets and FOOD were the keys to winning the hearts and minds of desperate and impoverished people.

Think about how many generations of starving people have eaten food delivered in USAID packaging and have been saved from childhood illness, especially the devastating tropical illnesses.

As a pragmatist, JFK knew that propaganda served along with lifesaving measures was a valuable tool.

As a pragmatist, I know that CIA lurks among USAID and the Peace Corps and similar initiatives but reality mandates that alternative measures will not bear valuable fruit. The enemy determines the methods we employ.

Mocking USAID's Iraqi version of Sesame street is shortsighted and ignores basic facts.

The initiative, funded under the Biden administration, aimed to foster understanding among Iraq’s diverse ethnic and religious groups, particularly in communities struggling after years of war. According to USAID, Iraqi youth, who make up over half the population, face challenges like unemployment and displacement, which could make them vulnerable to radicalization.

https://channel8.com/english/30979

Trump is self-serving above all else and his only tool is a hammer so everything looks like a nail. In his mind, nuance does not exist and facts have zero value. His despicable ways reflect poorly on his supporters and on the rest of us as well.

I cannot forget his behavior during a G7 summit in Italy. He was "late" for the photo session (passive aggression). When the leaders of the free world ambled along companionably on foot he isolated himself at a distance in a golf cart. He knew he was outclassed and outmatched and his current scorched earth initiatives are payback for that.

When he was 5 years old the baby next door was sunning in its backyard playpen when, hearing screams, the mother caught him throwing rocks at her baby and his aim was true. This is who he was then, and this is who he is today.

Bliss · February 8

18 minutes ago, suomi said:

USAID and the Peace Corps were created by JFK in 1961 via executive orders.

He was perhaps the most well-traveled individual of his era to serve in Congress (US Representative and US Senator). After visiting numerous countries and territories during the 1940s and 1950s he realized that colonialism was a thing of the past. As a US President he knew it was the highest form of hypocrisy to be leading a former colony while denying freedom to others who wanted to create and live in independent nations. He also knew that a region's individuals and natural resources were of equal value and that both were up for grabs during independence movements. During and after those struggles would they move into our orbit or into Russia's orbit?

To this day, USAID's food and medicine missions are the foundation of how America and Americans are viewed by millions of people in need all over the world. JFK knew that clean drinking water and vaccinations and mosquito nets and FOOD were the keys to winning the hearts and minds of desperate and impoverished people.

Think about how many generations of starving people have eaten food delivered in USAID packaging and have been saved from childhood illness, especially the devastating tropical illnesses.

As a pragmatist, JFK knew that propaganda served along with lifesaving measures was a valuable tool.

As a pragmatist, I know that CIA lurks among USAID and the Peace Corps and similar initiatives but reality mandates that alternative measures will not bear valuable fruit. The enemy determines the methods we employ.

Mocking USAID's Iraqi version of Sesame street is shortsighted and ignores basic facts.

The initiative, funded under the Biden administration, aimed to foster understanding among Iraq’s diverse ethnic and religious groups, particularly in communities struggling after years of war. According to USAID, Iraqi youth, who make up over half the population, face challenges like unemployment and displacement, which could make them vulnerable to radicalization.

https://channel8.com/english/30979

Trump is self-serving above all else and his only tool is a hammer so everything looks like a nail. In his mind, nuance does not exist and facts have zero value. His despicable ways reflect poorly on his supporters and on the rest of us as well.

I cannot forget his behavior during a G7 summit in Italy. He was "late" for the photo session (passive aggression). When the leaders of the free world ambled along companionably on foot he isolated himself at a distance in a golf cart. He knew he was outclassed and outmatched and his current scorched earth initiatives are payback for that.

When he was 5 years old the baby next door was sunning in its backyard playpen when, hearing screams, the mother caught him throwing rocks at her baby and his aim was true. This is who he was then, and this is who he is today.

Excellent post.

I was just wondering how a tRump supporter would react/feel if tRump bullied his way into their home, told them to give it to him or he'd get his military cult to force them out. "Sure! Here are all my keys! Watch the upstairs toilet... it leaks. Oh, and you may need a new roof soon. Lastly, our next door neighbour is insane." A couple of inside jokes there.

I pray a lot. Every so often I get a direct line to a higher power and my prayers for help are answered pronto. Lately, there's been a busy signal. Very busy! I won't give up. I believe good will conquer evil in the end. It's the 'meantime' that's a challenge.

Blergh · February 8

6 hours ago, tres bien said:

There’s a fine line between being delusional and being ignorant

And being willfully ignorant does require quite a bit of effort to keep the blinders on to maintain one's delusions that one feels is a comfort to them despite how counterproductive they may be!

Edited February 8 by Blergh

PRgal · February 8

3 hours ago, Bookworm 1979 said:

Canadian here. Yes, you have. You absolutely have. (We still love those of you who didn't vote for that monster.)

But they don’t really have allies anymore. But then again, there’s Russia and China. Those three are the big bullies at school. You know, the ones who pick on other kids, steel their lunches and shove some in lockers.

Blergh · February 8

On 2/8/2025 at 7:50 AM, abbyzenn said:

But on the positive side Trump is able to find the time to be chairman of the Kennedy Center (any bets there will be a name change soon) and establish a task force to take on the "war against Christians."

Let me say that as a Christian, AFIAC, the ones waging war against us are those who bastardize Scriptures, ignore Gospels (and Commandments) to elevate false prophets while behaving as Pharisees to treat one cruel, false witness bearing, unrepentant, profane individual as someone to venerate if not outrightly worship while being oblivious to those innocents suffering due to being needlessly and unjustly persecuted (all of which flies directly in the faces of what we Christians are supposed to believe)!

Edited February 9 by Blergh

Dimity · February 8

I have one word for Musk - Schirach. Leader of the Hitler Youth and sentenced to 20 years at Nuremberg, and served every day of that sentence.

The above is a picture of Musk surrounded by some of the very young men he has recruited to 'fix' America.

Lugal · February 8

8 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Sorry, but biological factors are not sexist. It's more about our hormones. A man will always beat a woman. If not in boxing, how about swimming? Lung capacity? People need to go beyond the scope of sexism and empathize with the women who are/were facing this issue in their chosen sport field.

I'm not denying biological factors, nor that they grant various advantages to either sex. Nor am I against separate men's and women's competitions. All I'm saying is that a man beating a woman in any given sport is not a sure thing. I can't believe that I have to say it but there will always be people bigger and stronger out there. Most sports are based on getting around that disadvantage to win. As for swimming, men may have greater lung capacity, but women's higher body fat gives them greater buoyancy.

3 hours ago, Notabug said:

How big a problem was this? How many transgender kids were playing in organized sports? Amongst teens, fewer than 1% identify as transgender and the number of younger kids in that category is miniscule.

Even presuming that every single transgender kid, male and female, wanted to play organized sports, I am not seeing how this was ever going to be the massive issue that the right claims it already is, especially since around half of those kids are female to male. Nor do I think anyone is going to decide to transition in order to play girls' sports at a higher level.

Thank you! It's small enough that it can and probably should be taken on a case-by-case basis.

tearknee · February 8

6 hours ago, Anela said:

There's so much concern about trans-women being in bathrooms, though. You would think they wouldn't be voting for someone who was accused of rape, by more than one woman.

I also don't see that she's been abandoned by anyone.

In the sense that she's a lot less prominent and left wingers have moved onto other tools to wield.

Voters cared about their wallets. Cynical but as Sir Humprey said about cynics...

peacheslatour · February 8

2 minutes ago, tearknee said:

In the sense that she's a lot less prominent and left wingers have moved onto other tools to wield.

Voters cared about their wallets. Cynical but as Sir Humprey said about cynics...

People have moved on because the trial is over and there's not any news about it anymore. That's it. She was never a "tool".

tearknee · February 8

4 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

People have moved on because the trial is over and there's not any news about it anymore. That's it. She was never a "tool".

Some saw her as *their* tool. I learned the hard way that neither side of the political spectrum has clean hands. You do not wish to know what the hard way was.

nokat · February 8

3 hours ago, Kemper said:

You are right. But sadly, Delusional and Ignorant are not the worst things he is. They are almost benign.

You say almost benign. Ignorant is a bad one. I've been scrambling to make sure my finance's are secure. Will I be able to go to the bank on my own?

tearknee · February 8

to my friends -- family, really - on here - I hate being in pain. I hate the palsy and i hate the remarks in RL.

ProudMary · February 8

Oh goody, I see we've returned to the 2018 Trump era where millions of women had to justify #WhyIDidn'tReport. 😒

The E. Jean Carroll case provided people who actually followed the case, and more importantly, the jury, with substantial amounts of contemporaneous notes and conversations from the time of Trump's assault.

Dimity · February 8

I am having flashbacks to Anita Hill. A courageous woman who dared to speak out. No one forgot about her even if the GOP decided to ignore what she was telling them (sound familiar?), and she was nobody's left wing tool.

Dimity · February 8

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

The information he has stolen in the last two weeks almost makes it a guaranteed outcome.

But at least we don't have to listen to Harris laugh. Financial ruin is a small price to pay for that.

nokat · February 8

3 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Women will be made the villains.

peacheslatour · February 8

3 minutes ago, nokat said:

Women will be made the villains.

Every time.

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