Chit-Chat: The Feels

[peacheslatour]

13 minutes ago, Bastet said:

That be those idiots, yes -- the HOC Democrats elected Gerry Connolly over AOC as their ranking member.

And they wonder why they don't get anywhere.

[Lantern7]

I'm guessing the Dems want to deal with middle ground swing voters, as opposed to placating their "radical" base. Or maybe AOC is seen with baggage on her name. I can't contact her through her e-mail . . . I'm curious if she's ever bumped shoulders in a hostile way with the likes of MTG and/or Boebert.

I left a short message for my Congresswoman about how no one elected Elon to do anything. She's MAGA and would probably need a "drop squad" of at least seven people to change her mind, but I understand calling people is important.

[Yeah No]

14 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

As a one time student of philosophy, I couldn't agree more with Karl in theory, but it depends on how it's put in practice and how "tolerance" is defined. In my opinion being tolerant of something or someone's behavior doesn't necessarily mean approving of it. We shouldn't defend the intolerant but we shouldn't go all the way to stripping them of their basic rights either. Our intolerance should consist of speaking out against them, not BECOMING them. There's a difference but it's an important one. If they hold intolerant positions and opinions that's one thing, but if they persecute others and strip them of their rights out of intolerance they should be dealt with under the law but not outside of it. No tarring and feathering in the streets just for having an intolerant opinion for example. Another fine line there and just my opinion!

12 hours ago, Dimity said:

 

Oh for sure. That's their denial showing.

12 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

I just got my monthly statement from my fiduciary, I lost 10K in the last thirty days. Laugh it up Trumpers.

I am afraid to look at mine.

10 hours ago, Dimity said:

It's incredible.  I know at least some of the answer is "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."  But I think the main answer is never underestimate the power of hatred.  Far too many of his supporters are fueled by hatred and even if they end up worse off thanks to Trump as long as they think someone else is even more worse off they'll feel he did them proud.

That is very true. They are very happy to make sacrifices if it means they can make whoever they think is responsible for their problems suffer. But that can only lead to more unhappiness in my opinion.

8 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

But that’s already happened here, people have said (typed) “I hate Republicans, I’m not giving anyone grace, etc.”  So it’s absolutely directed toward people.

I was saying what I thought people should do here, not what some actually DO. I didn't say anything about the latter.

6 hours ago, annzeepark914 said:

I paid $4.69 for a dozen large eggs today at Wegmans. Is this a deal (or no deal)?

Well I paid $4.50 the other day at Walmart so I think it's a deal. At my ShopRite they were actually $6.99 today!

[Soapy Goddess]

15 hours ago, Notabug said:

I think it is a pretty safe bet that Trump is not a good father.  

Adultery has nothing to do with being a good father. Apples & oranges, as you all like to say. All of his kids are well-educated, respectful of their elders, hard-working (not lazy, and extremely supportive of their father. 

 

15 hours ago, Notabug said:

I think Netanyahu was just trying to placate the crazy guy

 If that's the case, why is he doing a world tour? IOW, if he was trying to placate the audience at the conference, it could have ended there. He didn't have to make multiple appearances to the same crowd.

 

15 hours ago, Notabug said:

It was Howard Stern, enough said.

And I hope you realize that was Howard playing Howard...to elicit the most outrageous comment from all his guests. BTW, Howard finally came out of the closet, which proves my point.

[Soapy Goddess]

14 hours ago, Lugal said:

I can give Trump credit for attempting to find a path toward peace in Korea.  I'll also give him credit for attempting to talk to Putin (when 2 countries have thousands of nukes pointed at each other, I think they should be talking).  And I will give him credit for pushing through the Gaza ceasefire.

Thank you for acknowledging those few items. It gives me hope that eventually we'll be able to come together over some shared responses.

 

14 hours ago, Lugal said:

And of course Netanyahu couldn't say enough good things about Trump, Trump was offering to ethnically cleanse Gaza for him.

While that might be true, I wonder what any of us would do if we were in Netanyahu's position?

[Soapy Goddess]

12 hours ago, kittykat said:

Costco was completely out of eggs yesterday.  I know it's bird flu causing shortages but it's pretty telling we're already at rationing.

Trump ran on "I'm lowering your grocery prices" won on it and broke that promise first chance he got, he does one defend that?

You can thank the hundreds of Costco shoppers who are hoarding eggs as if they were toilet paper! And as with the TP, this too shall pass.

You really need to give the guy more than 3 weeks to fulfill promises. He's done more in less than a month than Biden did in 4 years. Oh wait, Biden really wasn't running the country now, was he?

 

12 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

We have seen Trump fuck over his wives and other family members. People he hired to work for him.  People enrolled in Trump University.  People who were supposed to get money from his charities.  So why would anyone not think he would fuck over the American people?

Guess the same thing could be said for Bill Clinton and JFK, who fucked any woman with a pulse. Let's not pretend that Trump is the only man to cheat on his wife. Since Jackie is dead, let's ask Hillary.

[tearknee]

This is for all and each of you that have shown compassion to me despite my disability -autism plus an impaired filter due to the ABI:

 

[Soapy Goddess]

10 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

Trump said he would handle immigration, and he tackled it.  He said he would deal with government spending and he’s shutting it all down.  His followers are impressed with all of this.  

The main reason they're impressed is because he's actually, you know, DOING something! 

[FilmTVGeek80]

39 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Adultery has nothing to do with being a good father. Apples & oranges, as you all like to say. All of his kids are well-educated, respectful of their elders, hard-working (not lazy, and extremely supportive of their father.

Respectful of their elders? Ha! Have you just completely missed the awful way some of them have talked about Democrats? Did you miss DJT laughing about Paul Pelosi's attack? Yeah, they are really respectful of their elders.  Hard-working? LOL. What did they ever accomplish that wasn't handed to them because of their family name? What jobs have they ever earned? And they were really hard-working when they fleeced a CHILDREN'S CHARITY. 

 

25 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

You really need to give the guy more than 3 weeks to fulfill promises. He's done more in less than a month than Biden did in 4 years. Oh wait, Biden really wasn't running the country now, was he?

No, we don't need to give him more than 3 weeks when what he's done already - during his first four years and now - has been so unbelievably horrific. You don't want me to bring out the list of everything Biden did - yes, Biden who ran the country. Everything that he did was positive for the country. He's done more? What exactly has he done? Rounded up immigrants - some who either committed minor offenses or none at all - so he could put them in detention centers so they could be free labor for him? Authorized his goon squad to raid schools searching for those dangerous immigrant fourth graders. Signed worthless executive orders keeping transwomen out of sports (as if that's going to do anything for the country given the monumentally small number of transwomen in sports anyway.) Stripped transpeople of their rights and tried to make them disappear? Given the real president - Musk - unauthorized access to all our information? Boasted about all of the land he wants to steal from other countries? Ordered tariffs - tariffs that would do nothing good - and immediately backtracked when the other leaders just gave him things they were already doing in the first place. Trying to shut down the government so he could try and remake it in his image and fill it with people loyal to him - not to us, not to the Constitution, to him. What exactly has he done to make lives better for the country as a whole? You're right that he's done a lot, but doing a lot of shitty things is not something to boast about. 

 

25 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Guess the same thing could be said for Bill Clinton and JFK, who fucked any woman with a pulse. Let's not pretend that Trump is the only man to cheat on his wife. Since Jackie is dead, let's ask Hillary.

The comment wasn't even about adultery.

Edited February 6 by FilmTVGeek80

[Soapy Goddess]

4 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

The comment wasn't even about adultery.

Hmm...let me see, how else would he "fuck over his wives"??

[FilmTVGeek80]

3 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Hmm...let me see, how else would he "fuck over his wives"??

Yeah, there are plenty of additional things to cheating that you can do to fuck over your spouses - like abusing them or stiffing them on spousal support. Also, the comment you quoted wasn't just talking about spouses. It specifically mentions him screwing over other family members and people who work for him. And, of course, him screwing people over with his fake university and his stealing from children's charities - a topic that you sidestepped entirely. But, of course, because zeroing in on adultery is the only way you can go, "See, JFK and Clinton were just as bad." Yeah, they were all cheating assholes, but the two others didn't commit felonies while cheating on their pregnant wives. They didn't cheat children and steal from them. 

[MostlyContent]

47 minutes ago, tearknee said:

This is for all and each of you that have shown compassion to me despite my disability -autism plus an impaired filter due to the ABI:

 

I just want to take a moment to tell you something.  

There are a lot of interesting posts on this thread. Even though I disagree with a lot of it, I like to ruminate and think.  Still, there are 3,4 people who I always look forward to 'seeing'.  I have looked forward to your posts since the near-beginning of this thread.   I wish I would have copied the ones that were deleted (about Gaza/Israel), but almost all your posts about *whatever* are thought-provoking, intriguing, or very funny in some way.  

Anyway..........Thank you for posting things that lead me down some very informational rabbit holes.  Seriously.  Thank you for existing.  💜

Edited February 6 by MostlyContent

[tearknee]

12 minutes ago, MostlyContent said:

I just want to take a moment to tell you something.  

There are a lot of interesting posts on this thread. Even though I disagree with a lot of it, I like to ruminate and think.  Still, there are 3,4 people who I always look forward to 'seeing'.  I have looked forward to your posts since the near-beginning of this thread.   I wish I would have copied some of them, but I had no idea they would be deleted as the subject certainly seemed to apply (to me). 

Anyway..........Thank you for posting things that lead me down some very informational rabbit holes.  Seriously.  Thank you for existing.  💜

aw *tears but happy ones*

[tres bien]

5 hours ago, Bastet said:

That be those idiots, yes -- the HOC Democrats elected Gerry Connolly over AOC as their ranking member.

This was one of the reasons I turned against Pelosi.

Connolly is a 74 year old that revealed in November 2024 he was diagnosed with cancer of the esophagus and receiving treatment 

AOC was thrown under the bus by Pelosi. But fine AOC is going to out live both of them and I feel confident that she will be a force in the party and is smart enough to know that she’ll have to moderate some of her positions 

If the democrats don’t start elevating the younger members they’re going to loose the voters they need 

[anony.miss]

5 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

 

I left a short message for my Congresswoman about how no one elected Elon to do anything. She's MAGA and would probably need a "drop squad" of at least seven people to change her mind,

Trump voters are souring fast on Musk, so your MAGA Congresswoman might be changing her tune soon:

"In The Economist/YouGov poll taken in the days after the November 2024 election, 47 percent of surveyed Republicans said they wanted Musk to have “a lot” of influence in the Trump administration...Today, however, the share of Republicans who say they want Musk to have “a lot” of influence has fallen substantially to 26 percent..."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5129353-gop-support-for-musk-influence-with-trump-falls-dramatically-poll/

Trump & Vance are also polling lower after Week 2:

"...Americans have less favorable views of Trump and Vance than they did in last week’s poll, conducted after their first week in office.

Trump has zero net favorability, with 48 percent of respondents viewing him favorably and unfavorably. Last week, Trump had a positive net favorability rounded to 3 points, with approximately 50 percent of survey respondents viewing him favorably and 48 percent unfavorably. Vance’s favorability rating dropped more significantly, from a net positive rating of 2 points down to a negative 7-point favorability rating."

Edited February 6 by anony.miss

[Dimity]

With regard to other presidents and adultery (like Reagan and Eisenhower just to add two more) I must have missed where they went on talk shows with their mistress and bragged about.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 6 by Dimity

[anony.miss]

Not so happy with Daddy now....

The polling next week will include voter reaction to Trump claiming Gaza - should be interesting.

 

Edited February 6 by anony.miss

[Dimity]

4 minutes ago, anony.miss said:

Maybe not - Trump voters are souring fast on Musk:

"In The Economist/YouGov poll taken in the days after the November 2024 election, 47 percent of surveyed Republicans said they wanted Musk to have “a lot” of influence in the Trump administration...Today, however, the share of Republicans who say they want Musk to have “a lot” of influence has fallen substantially to 26 percent..."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5129353-gop-support-for-musk-influence-with-trump-falls-dramatically-poll/

Trump & Vance are also polling lower after Week 2:

"...Americans have less favorable views of Trump and Vance than they did in last week’s poll, conducted after their first week in office.

Trump has zero net favorability, with 48 percent of respondents viewing him favorably and unfavorably. Last week, Trump had a positive net favorability rounded to 3 points, with approximately 50 percent of survey respondents viewing him favorably and 48 percent unfavorably. Vance’s favorability rating dropped more significantly over the past week, from a net positive rating of 2 points down to a negative 7-point favorability rating."

Not surprised about Musk but did Vance do anything other than  back up Trump?

[Anela]

I missed speeches yesterday, but my sleep schedule is a mess, and I tuned in to C-Span, in time to hear Andy Kim's speech in the middle of the night. I really liked it.

I mostly took a break from reading or watching anything to do with politics. I've been cooking, and baking a bit. 

Edited February 6 by Anela

[Blergh]

Given Ivana's final resting place (in an untended, unmarked spot on her 1st ex's golf course), I wonder if she'd have considered her children (who each individually if not collectively could have afforded to have her her interred in a real cemetery with an actual marker) to have been 'respectful of their elders'- to say the least?

[CM-BlueButterfly]

Hi everyone, 

I’ve seen some speculation around the creation of the topic, so I thought I’d just clear it up. I created it some time on November 6th after I had seen the first posts pop up in "Chit-Chat: What's On Your Mind Today?" 
As the election results affected (and affect) all of us and had (and have) repercussions beyond the US, I felt that it wasn’t fair to stifle conversation around it. But I also wanted to prevent posts from appearing here and there. So, in order to keep politics free spaces politics free, and the others show-related, I set up this thread.

As tessaray correctly assumed, I used a previously made post as the first one so that my opening post wouldn’t fade into the other posts somewhere in the middle of the first page.

With that said, the thread is open to everyone who wishes to post. It isn’t, and never was, intended as a safe heaven for either side or anyone in between and the ask that feelings please be recognized, respected and considered equally valid, shouldn’t be interpreted as an excuse to express them without any regard for other community members. (Because, if you take a peek at that first post, I also pointed out that things like gloating, personal attacks and accusations and so on could lead to the closure of the topic).

On that note, kindly remember to keep criticism constructive and express disagreement in ways that respect the opinion of the individual, as well as the individual, we disagree with. Use “I” statements and focus on facts and/or actions and not the individual. "I" statements and fact/action-based commmenting allows us to hold individuals (outside the community) responsible and express disagreement without shaming or making community members feel judged.

If you need to, consider taking a break from the thread. As much as it can help to be among people who share our impressions and feelings, the more there is of the impressions or feelings that we share, the more it amplifies our own. Taking a break allows us to clear our heads and hearts and focus on and fill them with something else. At least, for a little bit.

Thank you!

[suomi]

Thu 6 Feb 2025 06.00 EST

"US immigration is gaming Google to create a mirage of mass deportations

Thousands of press releases about decade-old enforcement actions topped search results, all updated with a timestamp from after Trump’s inauguration"

Conclusion: 

“[With Ice] these are old articles that are now appearing at the top of the Google and Bing search results as recent headlines, where no other government agency is doing this,” she said. “As someone in tech, I would interpret that as an intentional play to get more clicks, essentially on these misleading headlines.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/ice-us-immigration-deportations-google

 

Edited February 6 by suomi

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, Blergh said:

Given Ivana's final resting place (in an untended, unmarked spot on her 1st ex's golf course), I wonder if she'd have considered her children (who each individually if not collectively could have afforded to have her her interred in a real cemetery with an actual marker) to have been 'respectful of their elders'- to say the least?

But their dad got a tax break so I'm sure they think it's all good.

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

Not surprised about Musk but did Vance do anything other than  back up Trump?

Vance will do whatever his master Peter Thiel wants him to do.

2 hours ago, anony.miss said:

The polling next week will include voter reaction to Trump claiming Gaza - should be interesting.

I won't be surprised if his base even cares.  Their thinking is Trump didn't mean what he said.  OK he meant what he said but it won't be me or anyone I know fighting that war. OK so there might be some people I know who will be fighting that war but they know what they signed up for.  OK some people I know died in that war but I only like people who don't get killed so who cares.

3 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Yeah, there are plenty of additional things to cheating that you can do to fuck over your spouses - like abusing them or stiffing them on spousal support. Also, the comment you quoted wasn't just talking about spouses. It specifically mentions him screwing over other family members and people who work for him. And, of course, him screwing people over with his fake university and his stealing from children's charities - a topic that you sidestepped entirely. But, of course, because zeroing in on adultery is the only way you can go, "See, JFK and Clinton were just as bad." Yeah, they were all cheating assholes, but the two others didn't commit felonies while cheating on their pregnant wives. They didn't cheat children and steal from them. 

Thank you! There is over 40 years of public record of Trump being Trump. He has a long history of not paying his bills.  Of mistreating women. Of lying.  Of making everything about him, including 9/11. Before he ran for president and formed his MAGA cult there wasn't anyone showing him any adoration.  More than a few people believe he only ran in 2016 as a way to make money since he had a lot of loan payments coming due.  Him being president (twice!) has become his biggest grift ever.  And unfortunately we are all paying for it.

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

The main reason they're impressed is because he's actually, you know, DOING something! 

Doing something and doing something good are two different things.  And a lot of what he is doing is being challenged in court.

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

You really need to give the guy more than 3 weeks to fulfill promises. He's done more in less than a month than Biden did in 4 years. Oh wait, Biden really wasn't running the country now, was he?

 

Is Trump really running the country or is it Elon Musk?

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

While that might be true, I wonder what any of us would do if we were in Netanyahu's position?

You mean overseeing the genocide of the Palestinian people?

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

All of his kids are well-educated, respectful of their elders, hard-working (not lazy, and extremely supportive of their father. 

If you mean graduated from top schools sure.

 

[Annber03]

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

You really need to give the guy more than 3 weeks to fulfill promises. He's done more in less than a month than Biden did in 4 years. Oh wait, Biden really wasn't running the country now, was he?

No, we don't need to give him more than three weeks. I don't WANT him to fulfill his promises, because his promises involve enacting policies that will do harm to many, many people. He's already shown us who he is MANY times over, and his policies are targeting vulnerable groups of people and are going to make their lives hell, and now he's dragged Elon Musk on board to somehow take control of aspects of our government despite the fact that, y'know, the guy wasn't on the ballot last November, last I checked. 

So, no, I am more than fine with not giving him a single chance to prove himself or redeem himself, because I already know that will never happen. 

And we're simply calling out Trump supporters on the lie that the price of eggs was why they couldn't possibly vote for Kamaa -i f they were suppsoedly angry enough to refuse to vote for Democrats because of inflation, they should be equally as furious with Trump. If he has time to push out executive orders to go after transgender people and immigrants, he sure as hell should've had time to tackle the inflation issue that Trump supporters were so insistent he could totally fix. 

And yet he hasn't done that, and instead is throwing us into a trade war that is only going to jack up prices even nmore. 

And yet Trump supporters remain curiously silent on that part of things, which just further proves they didn't vote for him because of inflation. So we're simply higlighting how full of it they are with their supposed concerns about inflation, and thier refusal to acklwedge the REAL reasons they voted for him (read: going after women and minorities). 

[tres bien]

The democrats had 10 weeks and 6 days between the election and Inauguration Day to start forming a plan to fight back against MAGA. It was not an unknown. But their collective attitude seemed to be we’ll find common ground where we can. Seriously? The MAGAs pretty much voted against everything President Bidet was able to pass then showed up in their states and districts claiming victory 

John Fetterman was the only democrat to vote for Attorney General Pam Bondi. Last night the democrats held an all nighter on the Senate floor to protest the OMB nominee 

Yesterday the democrats were in front of the treasury building with Chuck Schumer screaming “we will win”. Lame

There has to be a better strategy. I’m still advocating for the party of no. Don’t try to find common ground with the MAGAS. It doesn’t exist and especially in the House. If the democrats cave they can kiss me goodbye 

[Yeah No]

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Guess the same thing could be said for Bill Clinton and JFK, who fucked any woman with a pulse. Let's not pretend that Trump is the only man to cheat on his wife. Since Jackie is dead, let's ask Hillary.

The difference between the two of them and Trump is that they didn't do it openly and brazenly in public. Also, you can't equate Clinton's indiscretions with Trump's, there is no comparison. If the public including Democrats had found out the truth about JFK while still in office it wouldn't have been kind to him especially back in 1963 (I was alive and conscious then and even at 5 I would have been CRUSHED to hear such things as JFK was an idol to a lot of people). Meanwhile Trump's followers don't even care about his vile, misogynist and piggish behavior which he did publicly for anyone to see. "Oh, nothing to see here, folks, this doesn't affect his ability to be a good father or leader." This from the party of so-called "family values" that supposedly stands for good moral values and wants to punish people and strip their rights for much milder behavior that doesn't even hurt anyone. It boggles my mind. The hypocrisy is not lost on me.

[Yeah No]

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Guess the same thing could be said for Bill Clinton and JFK, who fucked any woman with a pulse. Let's not pretend that Trump is the only man to cheat on his wife. Since Jackie is dead, let's ask Hillary.

We'll never know how JFK would have dealt with it had the public found out about his affairs. AFAIK, Trump has never apologized publicly for his behavior or done any kind of public soul searching to show that he has realized his wrongs and reformed himself like Clinton did. So yeah, let's ask Hillary.

[chitowngirl]

Even if Elon and his people leave Washington in an hour’s time, they will have downloaded and will take with them…everything. 😞

[PRgal]

1 minute ago, chitowngirl said:

Even if Elon and his people leave Washington in an hour’s time, they will have downloaded and will take with them…everything. 😞

And then quit their jobs.  

[Yeah No]

6 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

You can thank the hundreds of Costco shoppers who are hoarding eggs as if they were toilet paper! And as with the TP, this too shall pass.

Costco shoppers have nothing to do with the price of eggs in my supermarket, which are about $7.00 a dozen for large right now. And the shelves are stocked there because people are not buying them at that price.

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He's done more in less than a month than Biden did in 4 years. Oh wait, Biden really wasn't running the country now, was he?

I keep hearing that trope over and over from Trump supporters. That's a big myth. Whenever Trump opens his mouth people think he's doing something. He is NOT. All that big talk is just smoke and mirrors! Most of what he is blathering about right now (and even some of the executive orders) is not even LEGAL or Constitutional and the rest of the gov't., including some Republicans are not even supporting it much less able to let it happen. A lot of it is either going to go away altogether or be dialed WAY back. So much for Trump "running the country", LOL. 🙄

Meanwhile Biden quietly got tons done but no one except his supporters were paying attention to it or gave him credit for it. It's incredibly unfair and incidentally, contrary to the right's assumptions, the so-called "liberal" media was only making that perception worse by not making a big deal about Biden's accomplishments. Instead, every time Trump spewed BS they reported it like a front page headline, making him look like he was "getting things done" when he was NOT. I am sure there are many people here who can provide the "bullet points" to back up Biden's accomplishments better than I can!

Edited February 6 by Yeah No

[Notabug]

7 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Adultery has nothing to do with being a good father. Apples & oranges, as you all like to say. All of his kids are well-educated, respectful of their elders, hard-working (not lazy, and extremely supportive of their father. 

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The most important thing a father can do for his children is to love their mother.

Theodore Hesburgh

Blatantly cheating on their mother and bragging about it in the media is not the act of a loving father who cares about his children.

As for Trump's kids being respectful and hard-working; I think there is quite a bit of evidence that many, if not most, of them are neither.

Edited February 6 by Notabug

[bluegirl147]

46 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

 

I keep hearing that trope over and over from Trump supporters. That's a big myth. Whenever Trump opens his mouth people think he's doing something. He is NOT. All that big talk is just smoke and mirrors! Most of what he is blathering about right now (and even some of the executive orders) is not even LEGAL or Constitutional and the rest of the gov't., including some Republicans are not even supporting it much less able to let it happen. A lot of it is either going to go away altogether or be dialed WAY back. So much for Trump "running the country", LOL. 🙄

 

He is "running the country" the same way he ran his company which is with a lot of smoke and mirrors. His was a private company so he could more or less do what he wanted. With him perception is reality. He thinks if he says he is ordering something done that means it is done.  He really does have some magical thinking. Remember when he was asked what his net worth was and he said it depended on how he thought or felt that day? He has signed over 50 executive orders in the past two weeks.  I hope someone does a recap in a year to see how many actually were put into effect.

[Kemper]

If I never, ever hear the phrase "the price of eggs" again - it will still be too soon. Jesus weeps.

[peacheslatour]

31 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Blatantly cheating on their mother and bragging about it in the media is not the act of a loving father who cares about his children.

As for Trump's kids being respectful and hard-working; I think there is quite a bit of evidence that many, if not most, of them are neither.

Nepo babies who had everything handed to them are "hard working"? I guess selling national secrets documents to the Saudis and making deals with the Chinese for clothing lines, going off to Africa and Europe to kill endangered animals and stealing money from a childrens cancer charity are considered hard work in bizarro world.

Edited February 6 by peacheslatour

[tres bien]

Yesterday I thought the arrogance of Trump and. Bibi was was despicable. Bibi showed up in FOX to praise his BFF calling the plan to throw the people out of Gaza, bulldoze the land and rebuild it into something like The Truman Show brilliant 

But no,today Master MAGA mind posted on his truth social his bigger better plans which include relocating Chuck Schumer to the new beautiful Gaza

Seriously this is beyond weird 

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

I am sure there are many people here who can provide the "bullet points" to back up Biden's accomplishments better than I can!

This was done at least a few times on this thread.  Which, fair enough, has moved fast.  Still we could ask the mods to do a sticky with those bullet points and the Trump supporters will ignore it.

It's interesting that even now the best they can say about Trump is give him a chance.  Sigh.  What have the last 8 years been?

Edited February 6 by Dimity

[nokat]

On 2/4/2025 at 7:48 PM, Dimity said:

They've also been deluding themselves if they think they value women for anything more than breeding stock.  They've been pretty upfront about that for years.

I've had cashiers hand my change to my husband when I've paid for items. Like bitch, I earned that money and I don't have an allowance. 

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, nokat said:

I've had cashiers hand my change to my husband when I've paid for items. Like bitch, I earned that money and I don't have an allowance. 

I saw Paul Manafort being interviewed at the Republican convention in 2015. The reporter asked him why women should vote for Trump (this was right after the Access Hollywood tape) and he said because their husbands would make a lot of money from a Trump presidency. Back then reporters still had their balls I guess because the reporter asked Manafort if he knew what century this was. And he answered that women would love Trump. 

[Dimity]

[tearknee]

16 minutes ago, nokat said:

I've had cashiers hand my change to my husband when I've paid for items. Like bitch, I earned that money and I don't have an allowance. 

If you want help with those cashiers, I have a contact in LE that may be helpful

 

Spoiler

 

[Ohiopirate02]

51 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Of course, the various levels of government never go after the people employing the undocumented workers. Looking at you Smithfield Foods. I can understand why small businesses like contractors and restaurants look the other way when it comes to a good worker, but the corporations are the ones who need to punished for this. Or at least make the fines hurt the companies and not be slight enough that the business can absorb the cost.

[kittykat]

10 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

You can thank the hundreds of Costco shoppers who are hoarding eggs as if they were toilet paper! And as with the TP, this too shall pass.

I was talking to a woman who was doing an Instacart and she mentioned people selling them on Facebook Marketplace.  Like come on people.

5 hours ago, Annber03 said:

And we're simply calling out Trump supporters on the lie that the price of eggs was why they couldn't possibly vote for Kamaa -i f they were suppsoedly angry enough to refuse to vote for Democrats because of inflation, they should be equally as furious with Trump. If he has time to push out executive orders to go after transgender people and immigrants, he sure as hell should've had time to tackle the inflation issue that Trump supporters were so insistent he could totally fix. 

It was never about the eggs.  All these guys finally found a window to control women and they're taking it.

[kittykat]

57 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I've been making that argument to my friends for YEARS.  Why punish the immigrants when there's no consequences for the employers who exploit the cheap labor and hold these people by the throat when the complain about working conditions.

[Dimity]

Just now, kittykat said:

I've been making that argument to my friends for YEARS.  Why punish the immigrants when there's no consequences for the employers who exploit the cheap labor and hold these people by the throat when the complain about working conditions.

It's also been fodder for jokes for years.  There was an episode of Frasier when he owned a restaurant and all the workers left because they thought someone from Immigration was checking on them and in the movie The Bird Cage the Robin Williams character threatens someone with the comment "I have two words for you, green card".

[Is Everyone Gone]

To get an idea of what kind of dad is, I just went through Ivanka Trump's IG. The eyes always tell the story, and there's not a single photo of her and her father together that shows any happiness in her eyes or body language. Compare that to photos with her husband and kids -- there's genuine happiness in those photos.

 

[bluegirl147]

18 minutes ago, kittykat said:

I've been making that argument to my friends for YEARS.  Why punish the immigrants when there's no consequences for the employers who exploit the cheap labor and hold these people by the throat when the complain about working conditions.

You always hear it's undocumented workers keeping wages low.  No it's the companies that hire the undocumented workers.  And they will keep doing it.  If their current workers are deported they will look for new undocumented workers. It's not like they will suddenly decide to hire US citizens and pay them a living wage and provide benefits.  No matter what Trump and the Republicans say that is not happening.

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's not like they will suddenly decide to hire US citizens and pay them a living wage and provide benefits.  No matter what Trump and the Republicans say that is not happening.

I know we shouldn't believe that Trump and his merry band of incompetents rule by meme, but frankly, with him, I wouldn't be surprised.  Anyway all that to say I have seen a disturbing number of posts and memes that are suggesting, if not downright insisting, that anyone collecting benefits like unemployment insurance, should be expected to go pick fruit.  I think they are imagining some bizarre republican twist on what Roosevelt did during the depression to provide employment. 

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

You always hear it's undocumented workers keeping wages low.  No it's the companies that hire the undocumented workers.  And they will keep doing it.  If their current workers are deported they will look for new undocumented workers. It's not like they will suddenly decide to hire US citizens and pay them a living wage and provide benefits.  No matter what Trump and the Republicans say that is not happening.

 

Where are they going to find American workers willing to pick strawberries  six days a week, for however long daylight holds out at $5.00 per hour? And I've heard conservatives say  "well, I picked fruit on my uncles farm when I was a kid, those jobs are teenage summer jobs." Yeah, I picked fruit in the summer too but when we got too hot or too tired, we stopped and went to the beach and if we got sick we had our parents health insurance and if we were hungry, our parents gave us food. I know farm workers do not have any such options.

[Notabug]

20 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

 

Where are they going to find American workers willing to pick strawberries  six days a week, for however long daylight holds out at $5.00 per hour? And I've heard conservatives say  "well, I picked fruit on my uncles farm when I was a kid, those jobs are teenage summer jobs." Yeah, I picked fruit in the summer too but when we got too hot or too tired, we stopped and went to the beach and if we got sick we had our parents health insurance and if we were hungry, our parents gave us food. I know farm workers do not have any such options.

Times have also changed greatly.  Although the Republicans haven't noticed, teens no longer take menial jobs in the summer.  Take a look at your favorite fast food joint; they have trouble finding kids to work there and instead use retirees or young adults without vocational training or college.  It's even worse in rural areas where there are fewer kids overall.  Expecting that a kid living in the inner city is going to be willing or able to travel out to the sticks to pick fruit daily is pure nonsense.

I worked at Burger King when I was in high school back when dinosaurs roamed.  Kids nowadays are not looking for that kind of work.  I'm not a parent, I don't know what they do for spending money, but they ain't picking tomatoes.

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, Notabug said:

Times have also changed greatly.  Although the Republicans haven't noticed, teens no longer take menial jobs in the summer.  Take a look at your favorite fast food joint; they have trouble finding kids to work there and instead use retirees or young adults without vocational training or college.  It's even worse in rural areas where there are fewer kids overall.  Expecting that a kid living in the inner city is going to be willing or able to travel out to the sticks to pick fruit daily is pure nonsense.

I worked at Burger King when I was in high school back when dinosaurs roamed.  Kids nowadays are not looking for that kind of work.  I'm not a parent, I don't know what they do for spending money, but they ain't picking tomatoes.

When my kids were older teens they worked in coffee shops and stores within easy reach of our house. One thing I rarely see anymore are teens babysitting or mowing lawns which were standard teen jobs when I was growing up. As you say the world has changed.