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3 minutes ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

Home Alone 2: Lost in New York is one my favorite Christmas movies, and I don't think I can ever watch it again, because of... you know. I'm sure that makes me a "triggered lib", and you know what? Screw it, I don't care. Mockery is the least of my problems right now. 

I've heard that when they show it in Canada, they cut his part out. He's only in the movie because the setting is in one of his properties and he insisted on being in the movie or he wasn't going to let them film there.

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Just now, peacheslatour said:

I've heard that when they show it in Canada, they cut his part out. He's only in the movie because the setting is in one of his properties and he insisted on being in the movie or he wasn't going to let them film there.

To be fair, wrangling a cameo in a movie as a quid pro quo is probably the most relatable thing he's ever done. 

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Just now, peacheslatour said:

I've heard that when they show it in Canada, they cut his part out. He's only in the movie because the setting is in one of his properties and he insisted on being in the movie or he wasn't going to let them film there.

Remember how a few years ago, it was said the late Christopher Plummer would be special effect-ed in the other guy's place? That may or may not have been a joke, but now I wish they'd done it. 

If there's ever a blu ray release with those few seconds cut out, I will gladly pay full price for it. Go ahead and mock me, you think that's going to bother me now?

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From IMDB-

 

Over the years, Keith Richards has relied on a knife as a way to get his point firmly across. At a Rolling Stones concert in the 1980s, he even threatened to go after Donald Trump with the weapon. Richards and the rest of the band were unhappy with Trump’s presence at a concert venue. After their tour producer struggled to get Trump to leave, Richards offered to take matters into his own hands.

Keith Richards made his unhappiness with Donald Trump clear by pulling out a knife

In 1989, The Rolling Stones put on a pay-per-view concert in Atlantic City. Tour producer Michael Cohl booked the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino as the venue, but the band was uncertain whether they wanted to be associated with Trump. As a result, Cohl made sure to include the stipulation that Trump could not promote the show himself or attend the concert in the contract.

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37 minutes ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

Home Alone 2: Lost in New York is one my favorite Christmas movies, and I don't think I can ever watch it again, because of... you know. I'm sure that makes me a "triggered lib", and you know what? Screw it, I don't care. Mockery is the least of my problems right now. 

I’m with you. I just change the channel when I know that part is coming, and change it back when it’s safe. But they should make like Canada and just cut it completely.

At least he doesn’t own the Plaza anymore.

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47 minutes ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

Home Alone 2: Lost in New York is one my favorite Christmas movies, and I don't think I can ever watch it again, because of... you know. I'm sure that makes me a "triggered lib", and you know what? Screw it, I don't care. Mockery is the least of my problems right now. 

There are episodes of various TV shows from the '90s, ones that are set in New York or areas close to there, that have had Trump show up in a guest appearance. I always flinch a little whenever I catch one of those episodes now. And yes, I change the channel, at least until that scene is over. I just can't. 

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23 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's not just his appearances. He is referred to in so many movies and TV shows. He is like a bad penny.  

And it was not always complimentary. I was watching an episode of Law & Order, Criminal Intent the other night and they had found a note from him among the suspect's things. They were like "Lol, he misspelled Investment."

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@peacheslatour, a friend of mine is one of the members of a four piece horn section called the Uptown Horns.  They backed the Stones on the Steel Wheels tour '89. 

Another friend is cousins with Patty Hansen, Richards's wife.

These friends don't know one another. According to each, that IMDB stuff is 100% true.

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5 hours ago, Wiendish Fitch said:

Home Alone 2: Lost in New York is one my favorite Christmas movies, and I don't think I can ever watch it again, because of... you know. I'm sure that makes me a "triggered lib", and you know what? Screw it, I don't care. Mockery is the least of my problems right now. 

I've refused to let him ruin one of my favorite Christmas Day traditions. When I know the scene is coming, I either fast forward or mute it.

4 hours ago, Annber03 said:

There are episodes of various TV shows from the '90s, ones that are set in New York or areas close to there, that have had Trump show up in a guest appearance. I always flinch a little whenever I catch one of those episodes now. And yes, I change the channel, at least until that scene is over. I just can't. 

 

4 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's not just his appearances. He is referred to in so many movies and TV shows. He is like a bad penny.  

It's been so frustrating. I remember that, pretty soon after the 2016 election, I was trying to get my mind off things and watch movies all day. We started with this horror movie, Lights Out. I rarely look up at the credits, but for some reason, I did and saw Steve Mnuchin's name. I had no idea he produced movies. One of the following things we watched had a 45 cameo or mentioned him. Then, the last thing we watched was Stuck on You. It's a mindless comedy with Matt Damon. My husband likes it, and I'd never seen it. Towards the end, Ben Carson has a cameo. I could not win that day. But yeah, 45 is mentioned a disgusting amount of times. I think it's just that many writers are lazy, and he became their go-to example of a famous rich person. I'm experiencing something familiar with Puff Daddy. It's even weirder because I'm mostly watching holiday movies right now, and a surprising number of them mention Puff Daddy or P. Diddy. I think he was a lot of writers' go-to name to drop when they wanted an example of a famous rapper, especially since his various names are funny to say.

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7 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

It's not just his appearances. He is referred to in so many movies and TV shows. He is like a bad penny.  

Here's a bit from The Onion. It was published in 2017, but it feels like it could have been written yesterday . . .  by an AI with two weeks' "training" and rudimentary programming.

Juan Soto just signed with the Mets. I'm not really that excited. It's not a Trump thing . . . I lost my enthusiasm for baseball ages ago. I did get excited when the Mets made their postseason run. Hey, Trump likes McDonald's. You think Grimace could pummel him if he was asked nicely?

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8 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

Here's a bit from The Onion. It was published in 2017, but it feels like it could have been written yesterday . . .  by an AI with two weeks' "training" and rudimentary programming.

Juan Soto just signed with the Mets. I'm not really that excited. It's not a Trump thing . . . I lost my enthusiasm for baseball ages ago. I did get excited when the Mets made their postseason run. Hey, Trump likes McDonald's. You think Grimace could pummel him if he was asked nicely?

That Onion bit is too real to be funny and is basically what this book is about.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/12/08/donald-trump-jill-biden-cologne-perfume-notre-dame-paris/76856679007/

The man just can quit grifting.  He will exploit anyone and everyone.

29 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

That Onion bit is too real to be funny and is basically what this book is about.

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I have had that book in my library saved queue forever.  I think I will request it today.

There has been so many Trump books and I read if not all damn near all. And they all say the same thing.  The man is unfit.  He is petty. Childish.  Narcissistic.  Vengeful.  Dumb.  Greedy. Lying liar who lies.  And he somehow increased his vote count this time.  Says more about my fellow citizens than it does him. 

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Oh FFS.  This is amongst the many things I was afraid of.  Maybe not this specifically (thought it would've been another of the spawn/spawn-in-law generation).

RNC Co-Chair Lara Trump to step down amid speculation about Florida senate seat

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The move comes amid mounting speculation that she could be tapped to fill an upcoming Senate vacancy in Florida, whose Sen. Marco Rubio has been nominated for secretary of state.


 

The grift will never stop. Ever. At all.

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9 minutes ago, fastiller said:

Oh FFS.  This is amongst the many things I was afraid of.  Maybe not this specifically (thought it would've been another of the spawn/spawn-in-law generation).

RNC Co-Chair Lara Trump to step down amid speculation about Florida senate seat

From the linked article:

The grift will never stop. Ever. At all.

I am breathing a huge sigh of relief that Josh Stein is the governor-elect in North Carolina and not Mark Robinson. Lara is from North Carolina and I do not doubt for one second that she would rather be the Senator for NC and not Florida if she was given the chance. She's spent the last 8 years quietly playing the NC politics game.

I do have to wonder why Ron DeSantis would willing give up one of his perks as governor and appoint Lara over another Floridian who's been playing the game within the state. I do understand wanting to go along with Trump as a Republican, but the man is 78. He's going to die someday, and his movement is not going to be sustainable once that happens. Why pander to him by giving his daughter-in-law a real political position where she could outlast him. 

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50 minutes ago, fastiller said:

The grift will never stop. Ever. At all.

I hear people say Don Jr will run be installed once Trump is gone. That whole family is just so gross to me.  Not a single one of them cares about anyone but themselves.  I mean this is not the Kennedy family who felt public service was a good thing.  This is the Trump family who have just found another way to to make money. 

28 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I do have to wonder why Ron DeSantis would willing give up one of his perks as governor and appoint Lara over another Floridian who's been playing the game within the state. I do understand wanting to go along with Trump as a Republican, but the man is 78. He's going to die someday, and his movement is not going to be sustainable once that happens. Why pander to him by giving his daughter-in-law a real political position where she could outlast him. 

DeSantis might be moving to the Pentagon if Hegseth can't get confirmed.

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6 minutes ago, PRgal said:

The Trumps are the only billionaires I can think of that doesn't have some sort of family foundation going, I believe.

They did have a charity. It was ordered to shut down because the family used it for personal and political gain. Imagine that.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/18/trump-foundation-to-shut-down-1067924

 

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16 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I hear people say Don Jr will run be installed once Trump is gone. That whole family is just so gross to me.  Not a single one of them cares about anyone but themselves.  I mean this is not the Kennedy family who felt public service was a good thing.  This is the Trump family who have just found another way to to make money. 

Junior can try, but he does not command the stage like his father and will find out real quick that the establishment Republicans are not going to just allow him to continue his father's term. They are using Donald just as much as Donald is using them, and JD is not going to give up his chance at being president for Junior.

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8 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Junior can try, but he does not command the stage like his father and will find out real quick that the establishment Republicans are not going to just allow him to continue his father's term. They are using Donald just as much as Donald is using them, and JD is not going to give up his chance at being president for Junior.

I agree. Don Jr. is so stoned all the time he hasn't built himself a mystique around himself like the old man did. He won't ever hold public office.

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1 hour ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I do understand wanting to go along with Trump as a Republican, but the man is 78. He's going to die someday, and his movement is not going to be sustainable once that happens.

I keep thinking of the Christmas special Santa Claus is Coming to Town where the Burgermeister Meisterburger has outlawed toys   "And by and by, the good people realized how silly the Meisterburger laws were. Well, everybody had a wonderful laugh and forgot all about him." 

I don't think we'll ever have a good laugh but there will come a day when Trump is a memory, a distant memory at that and his family may think they will carry on but only DJT gets away with being DJT.

Just now, bluegirl147 said:

Also his father doesn't even like him.  If he needed pardoned I doubt Daddy would do it.

Daddy would expect Jr to go to jail for him, hell he'd expect Jr. to throw himself on a grenade for him.

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1 minute ago, Dimity said:

I keep thinking of the Christmas special Santa Claus is Coming to Town where the Burgermeister Meisterburger has outlawed toys   "And by and by, the good people realized how silly the Meisterburger laws were. Well, everybody had a wonderful laugh and forgot all about him." 

My favorite animated Christmas special.

1 minute ago, Dimity said:

I don't think we'll ever have a good laugh but there will come a day when Trump is a memory, a distant memory at that and his family may think they will carry on but only DJT gets away with being DJT.

I do wonder if he will be as reviled as Hitler. In this country and beyond. Once he is dead and gone and (hopefully) MAGA has died out will people cop to voting for him?

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3 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

My favorite animated Christmas special.

I do wonder if he will be as reviled as Hitler. In this country and beyond. Once he is dead and gone and (hopefully) MAGA has died out will people cop to voting for him?

I used to wonder that too but then this last election happened and people forgot how horrible his first term was. After Joe Biden won, we started having normal headlines and I stopped being afraid to look at the news. Now, even though he's not in office yet, not  a day goes by where the first thing I see is the newest outrageous threat or declaration of the horrors to come.

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Just now, Cementhead said:

I will never forget the anecdote that Ivana shared in her book that Trump didn't want to name Don Jr. after him because 'what if he's a loser?' 

That anecdote has shown up in so many Trump books. In the delivery room he looked at his newborn son and was hesitant to give his firstborn son his a name because as you said @Cementhead because "what if he is a loser?"  Can you imagine worrying your baby is going to be a loser? I mean he did kinda turn out to be one but I'm guessing his father had a lot to do with that.

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12 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

I do wonder if he will be as reviled as Hitler. In this country and beyond. Once he is dead and gone and (hopefully) MAGA has died out will people cop to voting for him?

A journalist who was in Germany a few years after the war said he never once met anyone who would admit they had ever supported Hitler.  He said it was like the entire country had been part of the resistance - which was ridiculous. 

 

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15 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

I will never forget the anecdote that Ivana shared in her book that Trump didn't want to name Don Jr. after him because 'what if he's a loser?' 

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8 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

That anecdote has shown up in so many Trump books. In the delivery room he looked at his newborn son and was hesitant to give his firstborn son his a name because as you said @Cementhead because "what if he is a loser?"  Can you imagine worrying your baby is going to be a loser? I mean he did kinda turn out to be one but I'm guessing his father had a lot to do with that.

I call bullshit (NOT directed to you @bluegirl147, in general): there's no way he was in the delivery room.

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14 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Yeah, I've given up on the living long enough to see him in jail dream but I'm figuring with any luck I'll live long enough to read a certain obituary. 

Let's make a pact that if this site is still here on that glorious day, we'll all be here to celebrate. 

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4 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

Also his father doesn't even like him.  If he needed pardoned I doubt Daddy would do it.

This is another big thing that amuses me about MAGA's reaction to Biden pardoning his son. Unlike Trump, Biden actually cares about his children, so of course he wants to actually support them however he's able. 

And I don't think Trump supporters understand that. 

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10 hours ago, Annber03 said:

How are we losing to guys like this? I don't get it. 

Because too many men want to be just like Junior. Rich without ever having to do any hard work to get there. And Junior's drug use plus whatever else he has gotten himself up to while high is exactly what they would do if they had the means and the time. The Trump family is really emblematic of how many lower and middle class Americans view being rich "the right way." Their crassness and garishness makes them "relatable" to them. And Donald's ability to consistently land women who are above his weight class also endears himself to these men. I don't think the American public's fascination with Donald Trump would have happened if Marla Maples was not Playboy material back in the late 80s. 

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12 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Because too many men want to be just like Junior. Rich without ever having to do any hard work to get there.

I remember when Trust Fund Baby was meant to be an insult.

14 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Their crassness and garishness makes them "relatable" to them.

Money cannot by class.

14 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

And Donald's ability to consistently land women who are above his weight class also endears himself to these men.

Yep. They are thinking if I had money I too could get arm candy.

11 hours ago, Annber03 said:

How are we losing to guys like this? I don't get it.

Because of voters like that.  They think Junior and his dad are examples of everyday average Americans  stupid people getting far in life through hard work being born rich. So if the Trumps can do it so can they.

 

 

 

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For a long time now, I have considered both The Washington Post and The New York Times to be overtly racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-Arab, misogynistic conservative publications. The New York Times, even more so than The Washington Post, has not only sanewashed Trump but also sanewashed religious fanatics, crypto/tech bros, and corporations with deep pockets in American politics. Since these people work in a medium where perception is everything, before even reading the article—which I haven’t because I don’t subscribe—the artwork is already telling a manipulative story. Someone online did read the story, and yes, voting for Trump is a very good reason to end any relationship!  

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/07/well/friend-breakup.html?smid=tw-share

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6 minutes ago, fairffaxx said:

You can avoid the paywall here:  https://archive.ph/7Ih99

So the article wasn't even about friendships ending because of politics.

And that is something happening more frequently. I am no longer friends with two people because our political differences became too much for me to ignore. They must have felt the same way because neither one of them reached out to me once I stopped talking to them.

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