Spartan Girl April 10 Share April 10 (edited) So once again, they’re messing with canon, making Harley an inmate fangirl than his shrink. I greatly admire and respect Lady Gaga but if she gets an Oscar nomination for this while Margot got nothing from the Oscars for Barbie, I’ll puke. Edited April 10 by Spartan Girl Link to comment
AimingforYoko April 10 Share April 10 I think Gunn's already said this is an Elseworld's deal. That was something, alright. Why didn't they have any singing in the trailer? Cowards. Link to comment
Spartan Girl April 10 Share April 10 And oh goody, we’re getting another stairs scene with both of them this time. Hard pass. Link to comment
FilmTVGeek80 April 10 Share April 10 3 hours ago, Spartan Girl said: I greatly admire and respect Lady Gaga but if she gets nominated for this while Margot got nothing for Barbie, I’ll puke. What does one have to do with the other? Wouldn't it be more apt to say if she gets nominated for this, while Robbie never got nominated for however many times she played Quinn? Robbie got plenty for playing Barbie—a truckload of money and lots of award nominations. 2 hours ago, AimingforYoko said: That was something, alright. Why didn't they have any singing in the trailer? Cowards. It's just the teaser trailer. I'm actually shocked we got as much as we did. 3 Link to comment
Spartan Girl April 10 Share April 10 8 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said: What does one have to do with the other? Wouldn't it be more apt to say if she gets nominated for this, while Robbie never got nominated for however many times she played Quinn? Robbie got plenty for playing Barbie—a truckload of money and lots of award nominations. I was referring to the Oscar nomination she didn’t get, but I do see your point. I just don’t want this movie to be the one that gets Gaga her Oscar. Hell, I’m already afraid they’ll nominate Joaquin again. Link to comment
magdalene April 13 Share April 13 That was a superb teaser trailer, kind of darkly romantic. So, I think this teaser is obviously very misleading. My theory for this sequel is - feel free to laugh at it - he falls in love with her but does she with him? The trailer makes it look like she is another inmate but she is actually a music therapist or some kind of volunteer. Maybe even the doctor as in the comics. In the comics the Joker manipulates and abuses her - maybe they are turning the tables here? The poor crazy murderous schmuck falls for her and under her spell but she uses him for her own crazy murderous desires. And here is the darkest possibility, in the end she kills him and becomes him? Smiles. Too dark? Link to comment
Trini April 14 Share April 14 4 hours ago, magdalene said: That was a superb teaser trailer, kind of darkly romantic. So, I think this teaser is obviously very misleading. My theory for this sequel is - ... I feel like this is the type of movie that doesn't need a big twist. They're both famous bad guys; either of them using/abusing/turning against the the other wouldn't be surprising, however they do it. Harley being an inmate to start seems to be a narrative shortcut. Link to comment
Spartan Girl April 14 Share April 14 I mean, I would like a movie about Harley killing Joker, but I don’t thin’ this is going to be it. 2 Link to comment
Cobalt Stargazer April 14 Share April 14 Honestly, this is where they could take a page from Margot's version of Harley. Spoiler tagging for those who haven't seen The Suicide Squad "I made myself a promise that the next time I got a boyfriend, I'd be on the lookout for any red flags, and if I saw any, I would do the healthy thing, and I would murder him. And killin' kids.....kind of a red flag." I don't believe this is going to be that, though. I didn't see the first movie with Phoenix, but I know it's not supposed to be comedic, not even darkly so. More's the pity. 1 Link to comment
Sarah 103 April 15 Share April 15 On 4/9/2024 at 9:26 PM, Spartan Girl said: I greatly admire and respect Lady Gaga but if she gets an Oscar nomination for this while Margot got nothing from the Oscars for Barbie, I’ll puke. I'm still mad the director of Joker was nominated for an Oscar and Greta Gerwig wasn't. After I saw Joker I thought, almost everything in here has been done before and been done better. It felt like a retread/reheated version of various 1970s movies and didn't add anything different. Greta Gerwig managed to create a fresh adaptation of a classic work that had been done multiple times before, but managed to make it feel different and new. 1 Link to comment
Spartan Girl July 27 Share July 27 So Todd Phillip’s revolutionary take on Harley Quinn is to make her a Manson girl. 2 2 Link to comment
MadyGirl1987 July 27 Share July 27 5 hours ago, Spartan Girl said: So Todd Phillip’s revolutionary take on Harley Quinn is to make her a Manson girl. Right? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but that doesn't seem much different from what we've seen of Harley Quinn in other forms before; someone drawn to the Joker because they find him, or something about him, charismatic. The only difference is that it seems like she's already got issues before meeting him. 1 1 Link to comment
tv echo October 4 Share October 4 Todd Phillips Is Moving on After ‘Joker: Folie à Deux’: “My Time in the DC Universe Was These Two Films” By Kirsten Chuba October 1, 2024 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/todd-phillips-dc-universe-joker-folie-a-deux-lady-gaga-1236018853/ Quote Asked if he would ever want to do a standalone film for Gaga’s character, Phillips noted, “It’s not really where this movie is headed for me. I feel like my time in the DC Universe was these two films,” after previously saying he was not interested in doing a Joker 3. .... Link to comment
proserpina65 October 4 Share October 4 On 4/9/2024 at 9:52 PM, AimingforYoko said: I think Gunn's already said this is an Elseworld's deal. That was something, alright. Why didn't they have any singing in the trailer? Cowards. Because they knew that would drive people away. Link to comment
AimingforYoko October 5 Share October 5 I'll tell you this: There's no way this movie's making a billion. 3 Link to comment
overtherainbow October 5 Share October 5 I went to see this today without reading any of the reviews. I had a gift card I'd been itching to use. Now I really wish I had. What a depressing pile of misery porn with just about every courtroom trope we've seen ever rolled into what felt like forever. Plus cheesy song after cheesy song. 2 4 Link to comment
Spartan Girl October 5 Share October 5 28 minutes ago, overtherainbow said: I went to see this today without reading any of the reviews. I had a gift card I'd been itching to use. Now I really wish I had. What a depressing pile of misery porn with just about every courtroom trope we've seen ever rolled into what felt like forever. Plus cheesy song after cheesy song. No, save your gift card for a better movie. I haven’t seen it but I read the spoilers and I know what happens. And all I can say is I’m glad this is pissing off all the people that liked the original movie. 2 2 1 Link to comment
overtherainbow October 5 Share October 5 5 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said: No, save your gift card for a better movie. I haven’t seen it but I read the spoilers and I know what happens. And all I can say is I’m glad this is pissing off all the people that liked the original movie. If only it pissed off the people that liked the original WHILE still being a good movie that's thought provoking..and this is from someone who actually likes musicals 1 1 Link to comment
Spartan Girl October 6 Share October 6 2 hours ago, overtherainbow said: If only it pissed off the people that liked the original WHILE still being a good movie that's thought provoking..and this is from someone who actually likes musicals Not a chance with a pretentious douche like Todd Phillips at the helm. 1 2 Link to comment
Harvey October 6 Share October 6 8 hours ago, Spartan Girl said: No, save your gift card for a better movie. I haven’t seen it but I read the spoilers and I know what happens. And all I can say is I’m glad this is pissing off all the people that liked the original movie. 2 Link to comment
Palimelon October 6 Share October 6 TBH I always thought the first one was extremely overrated. This one just sounds bad. 6 1 1 Link to comment
tv echo October 6 Share October 6 (edited) James Gunn Reminds Fans DC Studios Had NOTHING To Do With Warner Bros.' JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX By Josh Wilding Oct 6, 2024 https://comicbookmovie.com/batman/joker/james-gunn-reminds-fans-dc-studios-had-nothing-to-do-with-warner-bros-joker-folie-deux-a213718#gs.fpl17g Quote Instead, it's another critical and commercial flop, doing DC few favours as it looks to rebound from the DCEU era of storytelling. It probably won't surprise you then that DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn was quick to remind fans on social media that they had nothing to do with the critically panned sequel. * * * Director Todd Phillips and co-writer Scott Silver made similar comments last month at a pre-screening Q&A. "With all due respect to [Gunn and Safran]," he said, "this is kind of a Warner Brothers movie, and that's them also wanting it to be like, 'Okay, Todd did his thing. Let Todd continue to do his thing.'" Silver chimed in to say Joker: Folie à Deux "started before [Gunn and Safran] even came up for it," prompting Phillips to remind those in attendance that this is "not like DC proper, even though it'll say DC after." * * * In our review of the movie, we concluded by saying, "Lady Gaga shines and Joaquin Phoenix brings more of the same to Joker: Folie à Deux, a wholly unnecessary sequel with no new ideas and nothing to say. It doesn’t work as a movie or a musical. What a waste of $200 million." https://www.threads.net/@jamesgunn/post/DAvsRt7PITb?xmt=AQGzjN3ySR4spo1Ho45WrRwNrb5zGz2_TaOp8V6e0nlXD6I Quote jj124654 1d ago Bro Why there's no DC studios logo on Joker: Folie à Deux * * * jamesgunn 22 hours ago Because it’s not a DC Studios film. Edited October 6 by tv echo Link to comment
BlueSkies October 6 Share October 6 I do love me some Lady Gaga.... but more her music vs acting. 1 Link to comment
tennisgurl October 7 Share October 7 I was going to head out to see this but then I read review and had to look at spoils so...I think I'm going to wait until it comes out on streaming, which should be pretty quickly given its reception. I never thought that the 2019 Joker was the amazing revolutionary movie that a lot of people thought it was, but I could appreciate what it was doing and I admitted its artistry. I try not to judge a movie without seeing it first, but this sounds like a horrible mix of boredom and batshit crazy that I don't want to use my money on. 3 1 1 Link to comment
Palimelon October 9 Share October 9 Fans Are Calling For Joker To 'Release The Gaga Cut' After Spotting Key Scenes From Trailer Are Not In Film. Link to comment
methodwriter85 October 11 Share October 11 I am not going to see this but I've talked to people who have and it all basically seems like Todd Phillips decided to say "Fuck you!" with a 200 million dollar film. 1 Link to comment
Frisky Wig October 12 Share October 12 I saw this today. Not much plot, way, WAY too much singing, some court scenes dragged, other court scenes annoyed me (the voices Arthur used when he was made up as Joker, for example), very depressing. Also, the other lawyer, was that Harvey Dent? looked distractingly young. Link to comment
AimingforYoko October 13 Share October 13 Joker 2 suffers record 81.3% drop in second weekend. 1 1 Link to comment
Danny Franks October 14 Share October 14 I confess I was morbidly fascinated to see how this movie would do, given the narratives around the previous one. The first one was like a rallying call for every guy who thinks he's a special snowflake that's been ignored by the world and is bitter and full of rage because of it. Todd Phillips didn't help in the build up to it by whining about how "you can't even do comedy any more because of political correctness." So how would those guys react to a musical, a form of entertainment that's usually seen as non-manly? Would they embrace it because it was centred around the avatar of their misanthropy, or would they reject it because it was full of songs and had a prominent female character muscling in on their guy's supposedly righteous acts of vengeance? Unfortunately it seems like the movie is objectively bad, so all those guys have a ready made excuse for rejecting it. It also sounds like an incredibly lazy endeavour. A jukebox musical? Really? Not even musical fans want that. 1 1 Link to comment
Palimelon October 15 Share October 15 Joker sequel on course for catastrophic $200m loss. 1 Link to comment
Spartan Girl 4 hours ago Share 4 hours ago Todd Philips broke the Honest Trailer Guy with his pretentious hackery. Link to comment
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