Mama June From Not to Hot: Season 7 Family Crisis

[newyawk]

Justin is a decent person with a lot of sense and good advice to give. I can see him becoming a counselor of some sort. Maybe a drug counselor? I think he'd be good at helping people (who genuinely want help).

20 hours ago, slasherboy said:

I don't believe for one minute that Pumpkin figured all that out herself. That's what the show's producers are for. If any of this storyline is true, and if Pumpkin is such a smart investigator, why didn't she realize this years ago.

Not buying it. Oh, I believe June stole Alana's money, but not that Pumpkin is a financial mastermind.

The producers do not have a motivation to gather all that paperwork and connect the dots. Pumpkin does, and she is smart.

[newyawk]

Jessica and Shyanne have got to be insane wanting to have a baby that is a half sibling to Pumpkin and Josh 's kids. 

[slasherboy]

1 hour ago, newyawk said:

The producers do not have a motivation to gather all that paperwork and connect the dots. Pumpkin does, and she is smart.

The producers have a motivation if they're desperate for a storyline and June stealing Alana's money is something they haven't done before. I could see them handing the facts and figures to Pumpkin and telling her to put on a good show.

Of course, we'll never know the truth, but I'm still not convinced. I'm also not convinced Pumpkin is so smart. 

I'm the first to admit I don't know, but this is just my take on things.

[newyawk]

Except that financial institutions aren't going to hand over that kind of stuff to TV producers. It would have to be Alana, her lawyer or her legal guardian, with Alana's permission, to procure them.

[PupCal]

Oh dang, there Anna just said she wants Kaitlyn to go to Eldridge! Not June.

[BAForever]

Sorry June Bug- you get no redemption points from me for helping to care for your dying daughter that you semi-raised. You owed her so much more. Am hoping that Pumpkin continues her fight for Alana's money. Am certain that you are barely involved in day to day care of Kaitlyn, you're too lazy. 

[Blondie]

I wouldn't put it past June destroying any document Anna signed giving  Eldredge (sp?)custody.   June is a lieing liar who lies.  She's a  grifter and a con woman.  Anna could not have been  in her right mind because  why would she leave her daughter with a drug addict who didn't protect her from a pedophile and then  allowed  said pedo back into their home? I would go back to court and use the filmed episode as proof for custody.  

[newyawk]

Was anyone else alarmed when Pumpkin's toddler got all the way to the top of the steps, and then was teetering on that narrow top step before climbing over the baby gate? It seems that the gate should be across the bottom of the stairs (and taller). I was just waiting for that kid to fall all the way down.

Also, what 's the story with Dralin's family? Why does it fall on Pumpkin, Josh and Alana to figure out his legal needs?

Edited June 23, 2024 by newyawk

[merylinkid]

15 hours ago, Blondie said:

I wouldn't put it past June destroying any document Anna signed giving  Eldredge (sp?)custody.   June is a lieing liar who lies.  She's a  grifter and a con woman.  Anna could not have been  in her right mind because  why would she leave her daughter with a drug addict who didn't protect her from a pedophile and then  allowed  said pedo back into their home? I would go back to court and use the filmed episode as proof for custody.  

of course June wants custody of a young girl.   More money to steal.  

There is no way in hell Anna asked her mother to be guardian.   Not after all Anna went through at June's hands.   Besides, if the child has a father he automatically gets custody as the actual parent of the child.   Regardless of any custody order between Anna and the father, that ended on death.   Custody is between the parents, if one parent is not available then there is no custody issue.   

[Absolom]

7 hours ago, newyawk said:

Was anyone else alarmed when Pumpkin's toddler got all the way to the top of the steps, and then was teetering on that narrow top step before climbing over the baby gate? It seems that the gate should be across the bottom of the stairs (and taller). I was just waiting for that kid to fall all the way down.

That wasn't the toddler boy of the twins.  It was the pre-school age son.  I agree it looks like a rather dangerous set up, but he's old enough to to get into tree climbing and jungle gyms.  

 

7 hours ago, newyawk said:

Also, what 's the story with Dralin's family? Why does it fall on Pumpkin, Josh and Alana to figure out his legal needs?

What is with his family and what is with Dralin? He's an adult and old enough to get himself into the trouble so should be old enough to deal with it.

[Carolina Girl]

On 6/22/2024 at 1:09 PM, Blondie said:

I wouldn't put it past June destroying any document Anna signed giving  Eldredge (sp?)custody.   

I believe the Court did award that pig custody.  The question I have is did the Court see the footage of Anna asking that custody go to Eldridge?  Of did the producers withhold it?  I wouldn't put it past them, thinking a custody battle would be good TV.  

And June knew Anna didn't want her raising Kaitlyn.  I think that Anna only agreed to be in the same room with June these past two seasons in order to get some series money for herself and the girls, bless her and help with the medical care.  Once she knows that she is dying, she needed to kick that bitch June to the curb.

June probably lied to the judge.  

[PupCal]

It's been a bit since I've been in college but I do remember that Finals Week didn't have classes at all, 'cause y'know, it's Finals Week.

[Absolom]

This episode is so hard to watch.  All that hoopla over the Christmas party and they really didn't even have the time for it.  Seeing all the people coming by is awful.  I know they said Anna wanted it filmed, but did she really want this filmed?

They flipped from June being an interfering witch to Anna actively dying over a commercial break.  

Edited June 29, 2024 by Absolom

[applewood]

I don't even like June but that was hard to watch. I feel so bad for Kaitlin and Kylie. I wonder if Anna saying on camera that she wants Eldridge to have Kaitlin will mean anything in court. I know it isn't a notarized document but the judge can see that she is clearly stating her wishes.

What happened to Kaitlin's father? Is he not in the picture at all?

[Absolom]

Responded in the media thread as it hasn't aired on the show yet.

[newyawk]

12 hours ago, applewood said:

I don't even like June but that was hard to watch. I feel so bad for Kaitlin and Kylie. I wonder if Anna saying on camera that she wants Eldridge to have Kaitlin will mean anything in court. I know it isn't a notarized document but the judge can see that she is clearly stating her wishes.

What happened to Kaitlin's father? Is he not in the picture at all?

Doesn't Kaitlyn's father work a night shift? Or is that the father of Anna's other two girls? 

[Absolom]

Kaitlin's father isn't around to know if or when he works.  That's the whole custody problem.  Anna only had two daughters not three.  Eldridge was their stepfather who Anna married after being diagnosed.  He had to be at work very early in the morning.  Kylie had a relationship with her father so her custody was always going to him.

[Angeltoes]

It was heartbreaking when Anna was crying and saying that Kylie's dad would just rip her away from Kaitlin and from the life she knows.  I hope he isn't the kind of ogre that would keep sisters apart.  Those girls need each other.

[Absolom]

So it was Michael, Kylie's father, that filed for custody of Kaitlin.  Mama June had reached an understanding with Eldridge.  That was a tough one since Michael had no direct connection to Kaitlin after he and Anna divorced.  He did do things with both girls and I hope he still is.  

[Boxer Woman]

I've only seen the first 20 minutes of this episode so far since I haven't yet found an episode on YouTube that isn't a repeating 20 minute loop and no torrent sites I know of even bother with this show, isn't popular enough, but was surprised that the father of Anna's younger daughter not only isn't even known but according to June they've tested "5 or 6" men who she maybe had sexual relations with who are not her father?  I don't understand how people can live like this, especially a woman who already has one child and knows how things work with that.  What a sad mess.  I'm afraid to even know who the real father is given past history of this family.  :(

Edit -- full episode located on YouTube!

Edited July 6, 2024 by Boxer Woman

[Absolom]

It's the older daughter Kaitlin who June is claiming the father is unknown.  I think Anna did know who the father was, but he dropped out of the picture very quickly.  I think it was said in articles or on the show that Anna was married to Kylie's father at one time.  

[Boxer Woman]

Does anyone know how many times Anna has been married?  I remember back before all the scandals she married one guy (while wearing cowboy boots) that was televised, also remember June saying something like "I think he's a good first husband for Anna" but if he was the father it should be obvious, so she didn't have any children from first marriage and already had two daughters when she married Eldridge?  And had at least one other marriage between those two, who fathered Kylie?  This is such a confusing mess.

[Absolom]

Anna was not married to Kaitlin's father and apparently never specifically named him.  It was somewhat assumed Caleb Clark was her father since he was Anna's long time boyfriend and she gave Kaitlin the last name of Clark.  Anna later married Michael who is Kylie's father.  They divorced and then she married Eldridge during her cancer treatment.  

[Boxer Woman]

Thanks, so it seems if they tested 5-6 men to check for Kaitlin's father surely Caleb Clark was among them?  But of course June can't be trusted about anything so no telling if they really did DNA testing on anyone.

Edited July 6, 2024 by Boxer Woman

[merylinkid]

Good old June, calling her dead daughter a slut in order to get attention.

IMO, Anna knew who the father was, knew he didn't care so didn't bother naming him.

 

Also June is one to talk.   How many men has she been with?

[BAForever]

Cried last 2 epis. 29, and having June as her mother, what a sad life. Hated that June said they had tested 5 or 6 men for paternity- nobody's business June Bug. Agree that Anna prob knew paternity. IMO, Justin will be a good father to Kaitlin. 

Edited July 6, 2024 by BAForever

[Blondie]

Is that poor little girl sleeping in a pantry or a broom closet?

June buuugs wardrobe is so unflattering and tacky she is the last person who should be picking out clothes for her  granddaughter.   

So the old bag sleeps till noon and  only makes 1 meal a day then sits on her arsenal.  What a good example of a  mama she is.  Justin  really  missed his opportunity when he brought her clothes in that hamper and dropped it on the floor.  I would have  dumped the contents over her head.  

The doors in that place aren't  going to last much longer.  The bedroom  door swung past the hinge and the front  door  didn't even close properly.  

That woman shouldn't even have custody of a goldfish. 

[renatae]

Justin is really the voice of reason in this pair. You can see he's getting sick of hee nonsense. Wonder how long he'll stick around for this guff.

I don't understand who'd give custody to June!

[newyawk]

Ella is totally turning into another Honey Boo Boo. It's a shame Pumpkin doesn't do something about that.

[LeesburgLee]

In the preview, June said something like, “what have they got on me?”

Well, this is Season 7 of this show and there were the other two series before that, so I think the custody courts have probably got a good amount of info on her parenting skills, life skills, and general capabilities around child rearing.

Maybe the sheriff who gave her a sample of jail time will be back to vouch for her.

 

[applewood]

I was surprised when June said they tested 5 or 6 men for paternity of Kaitlyn. Anna was only 17 at the time. How many men was she sleeping with???? Of course that whole story could be just BS on June's part. I read online that Michael raised her since she was 8 months old and was paying for her private school tuition. And that's another thing that bugged me. If she was happy in her old school why did June take her out and put her in public school. She's had enough disruption in her life. And at her old school at least she and Kylee  were together.

Also, I couldn't believe it when June said she was going to give her stability. When has she ever been stable? I remember watching the early shows in 2012 (yes, I know I need a new hobby) and it seemed liked the kids did whatever the heck they wanted. There wasn't much parenting. I am surprised Pumpkin turned out so normal.

Edited July 8, 2024 by applewood
reworded sentence

[Absolom]

June disrupted everything.  She split the sisters, she needlessly it seemed changed the school, she set up "June's rules" for a child still all up in the air grieving, and generally was a bitch to the child at least for what was filmed.  Justin seemed much more in tune with what was going on.  For someone as selfish as June what makes her think she can keep up the act of concerned guardian especially if she's sleeping until noon and Justin is indeed doing all the work. 

Edited July 8, 2024 by Absolom

[tvfanatic13]

I hate myself, but Justin actually seems like he will be a good parent. 

[BAForever]

1 hour ago, tvfanatic13 said:

I hate myself, but Justin actually seems like he will be a good parent. 

Justin shows a level of empathy and insight that June either can not or will not. 

The fact that Pumpkin, Josh, Alana and Jessica seem to like him points to that. One would assume that the kids would dislike June's significant other due to past history. 

June is still heinous.

Edited July 8, 2024 by BAForever

[applewood]

On 6/30/2024 at 5:34 PM, Angeltoes said:

It was heartbreaking when Anna was crying and saying that Kylie's dad would just rip her away from Kaitlin and from the life she knows.  I hope he isn't the kind of ogre that would keep sisters apart.  Those girls need each other.

I saw the family on Entertainment Tonight in June and they said that they have only seen Kylee twice since Anna's death. Once at the funeral and once at an event in April. Alana said she saw her one other time recently because Dralin's little sister goes to the same school as Kylee. They said Michael will not allow them to see her. That is so sad. I don't know what their relationship with Michael was prior to Anna's death, if there was a lot of problems or what. :(

[Angeltoes]

I can understand him being protective of Kylee especially considering what Anna herself went through as a child in that family.  But surely he could have Kaitlin come over and spend a weekend a month at his house so the girls can see each other.  I can guarantee that if he doesn't nurture the relationship between those two girls that it will come back and bite him a few years down the road.

[zenme]

Anna being molested as a child and then having to test several partners for paternity…Sometimes promiscuity can be the result when a person believes their worth and validation is in sex. Poor Anna.

[Boxer Woman]

On 7/8/2024 at 4:47 PM, Angeltoes said:

But surely he could have Kaitlin come over and spend a weekend a month at his house so the girls can see each other.

I agree, but maybe it's June preventing the girls from visiting, wanting to dictate terms, have it televised and done at June's residence, etc., to which Kylee's father is objecting.

Edited July 12, 2024 by Boxer Woman
can't keep known fathers of children straight

[merylinkid]

On 7/12/2024 at 7:48 PM, Boxer Woman said:

I agree, but maybe it's June preventing the girls from visiting, wanting to dictate terms, have it televised and done at June's residence, etc., to which Kylee's father is objecting.

This.   He might want the girls together but having to deal with June to do it is probably a deal breaker.

On 7/8/2024 at 12:02 PM, applewood said:

If she was happy in her old school why did June take her out and put her in public school.

Michael probably wouldn't continue to pay for the private school and June sure as hell won't.   

Judges usually live in fear of making the wrong decision about custody of kids.  They don't want to see their names attached when something happens to the kid.   This judge may live to regret the decision to put a small child under June's control.