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I would have been happy with either of the two finalists winning.  I liked both of them.  

It's interesting what people tend to know.  I would have picked Periodic Table much earlier in the game and knew most of them.  I knew none of the Sneakers.  I knew all the Shakespeare quotes and would never have been able to identify National Parks from one picture.  I find putting names to faces in a split second difficult too.  

I love this game and I'm looking forward to season 3.

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While this is an entertaining show to watch, the structure bothers me. It seems the winner gets chosen at random, purely based on the way categories are played. Periodic Table guy had to play twice, if I’m not mistaken. If I’m watching to see someone win $250,000, I want to see some dominance in knowledge, not just a lucky roll of the dice.

12 hours ago, Rickster said:

While this is an entertaining show to watch, the structure bothers me. It seems the winner gets chosen at random, purely based on the way categories are played. Periodic Table guy had to play twice, if I’m not mistaken. If I’m watching to see someone win $250,000, I want to see some dominance in knowledge, not just a lucky roll of the dice.

I get what you're saying but no one person has an advantage over anyone else, so even though it doesn't seem quite fair in ways, it actually is. I do think Keelan had an advantage in having a really, really intimidating category nobody wanted to challenge. And yes, some of the categories seem childishly simply compared to some of the others, so there's sort of an imbalance there, but it all evens up at the end.

To sum up: it's unfair. But it's fair. LOL.

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7 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I get what you're saying but no one person has an advantage over anyone else, so even though it doesn't seem quite fair in ways, it actually is. I do think Keelan had an advantage in having a really, really intimidating category nobody wanted to challenge. And yes, some of the categories seem childishly simply compared to some of the others, so there's sort of an imbalance there, but it all evens up at the end.

To sum up: it's unfair. But it's fair. LOL.

If the producers pick the category everybody gets, then naturally people who can get the producers to stick them with their category of choice 
I would also like to mention that Keelan could've gotten knocked out if Keelan was chosen by the randomizer at any point during the finale, as he would have to play something other than periodic table(We saw this with Mena in the beginning). The randomizer didn't pick him, and it once again illustrates the issue everyone was saying(if you are the last to get picked, you will win) and now it's just being gamed by winning one duel, waiting for everyone else to go, keeping your OG category, hoping the leader picks off the others, and once again, hoping you didn't get picked by the randomizer. If Keelan gets picked at any point during this finale by the randomizer he almost for sure does not win as he likely sucks at Shakespeare. Catherine(blue jacket) tried to knock Keelan out via "Russian roulette" as she called it, and failed. It's once again about being picked as the last one, but this season it was just about being the last person to have your OG category. 

There is something inherently wrong with the randomizer that needs to be fixed because the two-square thing makes it so easily gameable until the end of the season. It's better to be randomized then to be challenged because you will keep your original category in the process. You are then safe with your original category until someone challenges you(not to mention the edge/corner strategy) if you go back to the floor because your original category scares them off, which in turn would keep you safe until everyone has dueled. But all this power, for one duel(yes you might have bad options for duel choices) seems a bit too OP.

6 hours ago, wenhiku said:

I was curious what the topic would be if they had had to go three rounds to determine the winner.  Was there a category that did not get played during the game?

All categories were played, and we never found out officially, but I think a contestant said that it was going to be international Foods(the unplayed category from season 1).

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On 12/19/2024 at 12:17 PM, iMonrey said:

So it basically did come down to the periodic table in the end (and I actually knew more of them than I thought I would). It really pays to have a tough category nobody wants to challenge, and Keelan just basically stood there all season until the end. 

I was 50/50 on accessories, based on a true story, lab equipment and Shakespeare. I didn't know ANY of the sneakers. Guess I'm not a shoe person. And I recognized almost all the game show hosts, but names are tough. I know them but it's hard to come up with the name quickly. I sucked at CEOs too.

Right out of the gate, Jayna made a huge mistake challenging national parks instead of going back to the floor and defending her own category, because nobody wanted to challenge Shakespeare either. I would have sucked at national parks, I think I guessed maybe 2 of them.

Fun show. Bring on the next season!

Called it periodic dude for the win.  I actually knew a lot of them . Nat parks and sneakers were harder for me.  My hardest category in the finale was Shakespeare. 

I still have no idea what is the best strategy and I’ve watched both seasons.  I was confused on the finale about what they should do.  But yes so much more satisfying than season 1.  Liked the 2-3 but was curious what would be the tiebreaker has anyone spilled? 

Rob said at the end when recruiting for next season that’s it’s the number one game show. 

On 12/20/2024 at 4:13 PM, GameJayAnalysis said:



There is something inherently wrong with the randomizer that needs to be fixed because the two-square thing makes it so easily gameable until the end of the season. It's better to be randomized then to be challenged because you will keep your original category in the process. You are then safe with your original category until someone challenges you(not to mention the edge/corner strategy) if you go back to the floor because your original category scares them off, which in turn would keep you safe until everyone has dueled. But all this power, for one duel(yes you might have bad options for duel choices) seems a bit too OP.

 

That's the whole point of the randomizer, it's random, and what you do has no bearing in who is chosen by it, the only thing you know is that it picks people who haven't been picked & the only way to have any say is to pick people yourself. The randomizer could pick someone first, last, or anywhere in between.

Now maybe you could make a case for the concept being wrong or bad but if that is how you feel then go watch something else because it's not changing anytime soon. 

 

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I'm calling shenanigans on the Accessories category. Angie said Hajib and they didn't give it to her. They usually aren't that picking on pronounciation and it sounded pretty close to me. 

I do wonder what they do if the judges do mess up? Interrupting a challenge midway would be difficult, but something would have to be done. 

 

In any case, I'm glad it was a Best of 3 battle in the end. I suspect there is a 101st category everyone knows about, but it isn't mentioned until its needed. This time it wasn't needed.

 

And that said, as a science nerd, I would've been all over Periodic Table long before the final challenge. I nailed most of them including some she passed on. Most of the rest of the categories I was FUBARed in of course. :)

3 hours ago, Taeolas said:

I'm calling shenanigans on the Accessories category. Angie said Hajib and they didn't give it to her. They usually aren't that picking on pronounciation and it sounded pretty close to me. 

I do wonder what they do if the judges do mess up? Interrupting a challenge midway would be difficult, but something would have to be done.

Also Accessories, they showed a pic of stockings (hosiery), but the contestant said pantyhose and the pic was labeled as pantyhose. I realize that younger generations don't wear either anymore, but they are two different articles of clothing and it was labeled wrong from the get go.

Between this & Led Zep and ELO as spin off bands... (is anyone there over 45 to fact check stuff?? besides Rob, I mean...)

 

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On 12/20/2024 at 11:49 PM, Diana Berry said:

Rob said at the end when recruiting for next season that’s it’s the number one game show. 

Well, it's literally the only game show on network TV right now, so . . .

20 hours ago, Taeolas said:

And that said, as a science nerd, I would've been all over Periodic Table long before the final challenge. I nailed most of them including some she passed on. Most of the rest of the categories I was FUBARed in of course. :)

The thing is, if you're standing next to Periodic Table Guy, you have a chance to study the category, which I would have done. And there are a finite number of symbols on the table. So after some studying I think I could take a stab at it. I guess the same could be said of sneakers, although would be more difficult because you wouldn't know what you are looking for. Anyone can pull up the periodic table.

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23 hours ago, Taeolas said:

And that said, as a science nerd, I would've been all over Periodic Table long before the final challenge. I nailed most of them including some she passed on. Most of the rest of the categories I was FUBARed in of course. :)

 

2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

The thing is, if you're standing next to Periodic Table Guy, you have a chance to study the category, which I would have done. And there are a finite number of symbols on the table. So after some studying I think I could take a stab at it. I guess the same could be said of sneakers, although would be more difficult because you wouldn't know what you are looking for. Anyone can pull up the periodic table.

The other thing is, though, I don't think they know in advance how the clues would be presented.  It could be as straightforward as what they did, or it could be pictures of the elements, or "what element is this number?" or "what element name is missing in this title?" or...

But I agree, the Periodic Table probably is one of the easier (or at least most well delimited) things to study for, even if you don't know exactly how they're going to ask about it.

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7 hours ago, jabRI said:

Agree with a lot of the responses, my feeling is its always a disappointment with the 'winner' of the season being someone we've never seen before.  Maybe if people earned money every time they played, it might be more competitive?  Too many people going back to the floor and waiting it out

 

I like that idea of earning money for each survived round.   Something like $1000 for each winning round, that way some folks would at least get a little something and it may encourage more people to keep going.

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9 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Well, it's literally the only game show on network TV right now, so . . .

The thing is, if you're standing next to Periodic Table Guy, you have a chance to study the category, which I would have done. And there are a finite number of symbols on the table. So after some studying I think I could take a stab at it. I guess the same could be said of sneakers, although would be more difficult because you wouldn't know what you are looking for. Anyone can pull up the periodic table.

Agree there is only so many answers for periodic table.  That definitely would have been one to study.

does anyone know when the contestants get their specialty from the producers how long  do they have to study it before the first show ? 

 

 

On 12/4/2024 at 11:52 PM, HerkyJerky said:

not that it mattered because she won the duel anyway, but why didn’t they give the woman credit for saying HOWE when they showed a picture of Gordie Howe? Is there more than one Howe in hockey?

And later in the same episode they gave a point to the guy who just said Thicke instead of Robin Thicke.  It should either be full name all the time or just last name.

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Names can be tricky in general with gameshows. Sometimes they demand full names, and sometimes they are fine with a distinctive name. 

That said, I think most sports fan would recognize "Howe" as "Gordie Howe" and give it... (unless they misheard it has "How?" maybe?) 

 

As for Thicke, for singers, that is probably identifiable enough, but for celebrities you'd probably need to clarify because you could have either Robin or Alan. 

 

Sometimes it just seems like the luck of the judge for if you get the credit or not. 

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@Lantern7The wikipedia page updates constantly.
By the way, they are having jeopardy champs and a lot of celebs this year. David with eurpoean geography, Brian with convince store items, etc. Thankfully less celebrity categories this year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Floor_(American_game_show)

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Most of the categories were pretty easy in this first episode. "Mountains" is the one I would have the most trouble with, although I did recognize Machu Pichu. Hard to believe someone who claims to be an expert in the category wouldn't know one of the most recognizable mountain ranges. 

In fact, five out of the eight people who were challenged in this episode failed to defend their own category. I think that speaks to how the show more or less assigns categories to people whether they truly know anything about them or not. "Children's literature" should have been a breeze from someone who claimed to know a lot about it. She didn't even know Alice in Wonderland, for Pete's sake.

I'm confused why Logan won the 20K. She only won 2 rounds, same number as Madeline. Did she somehow acquire more floor squares in those rounds?

I'm also of the opinion that if you manage to win 2 rounds in a row you should definitely go for a third and get that time boost.

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55 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

"Children's literature" should have been a breeze from someone who claimed to know a lot about it. She didn't even know Alice in Wonderland, for Pete's sake.

I definitely knew more than either of the players, but it kind of threw me that they didn’t show the actual book covers. At least, those weren’t the “original” covers I’m used to seeing. 

59 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

Most of the categories were pretty easy in this first episode. "Mountains" is the one I would have the most trouble with, although I did recognize Machu Pichu. Hard to believe someone who claims to be an expert in the category wouldn't know one of the most recognizable mountain ranges. 

In fact, five out of the eight people who were challenged in this episode failed to defend their own category. I think that speaks to how the show more or less assigns categories to people whether they truly know anything about them or not. "Children's literature" should have been a breeze from someone who claimed to know a lot about it. She didn't even know Alice in Wonderland, for Pete's sake.

I'm confused why Logan won the 20K. She only won 2 rounds, same number as Madeline. Did she somehow acquire more floor squares in those rounds?

I'm also of the opinion that if you manage to win 2 rounds in a row you should definitely go for a third and get that time boost.

Didn't she (Logan) also get the time boost so she must have won more than 2 rounds. 

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I'm glad this show is back.  I hope they don't screw it up with too many new twists.

I wonder if they are going to rerun last night's episode on Wednesday or start with episode 2.  I can't imagine that most fans of the show stayed up as late as I had to to watch it after the SuperBowl.  

I think nerves must have got to several of the people who lost.  Some of them seemed to be missing fairly easy things.

That smug woman with the huge flower on her dress can go any time.  She may be smart but she's very annoying.

 

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1 hour ago, mlp said:

I wonder if they are going to rerun last night's episode on Wednesday or start with episode 2.  I can't imagine that most fans of the show stayed up as late as I had to to watch it after the SuperBowl. 

Episode 2 airs on Wednesday but I think people will stream it. Likely because well... that first episode had really badly timed commercials. Kinda getting sick of the randomizer music and then commerical. 

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1 hour ago, mlp said:

I wonder if they are going to rerun last night's episode on Wednesday or start with episode 2.  I can't imagine that most fans of the show stayed up as late as I had to to watch it after the SuperBowl

I believe it is episode 2 on Wednesday. I will be watching Episode 1 on Hulu tonight (and probably Ep 2 on Thursday---conflicts with Celeb Jeopardy on Wed).

Episode 2.

It was clear Caroline was assigned Female Country Singers because she didn't know any of them - not even Loretta Lynn! I wouldn't have known any of them either (except Dolly, Reba and Loretta) but I don't claim to be an expert in anything country. 

Same with Darlene and Sushi. How do these people wind up assigned with categories they know nothing about? And I'm not sure what "bluffing" you're a sushi chef gets you. If you've already been called up to the stage it's too late to get into your opponent's head. That would only maybe help you not get challenged in the first place.

Madeline did seem to know a little about Landmark Architecture, but not as much as Brian. And Logan had an excuse - she had inherited Class Films from the first episode. 

Seems to be a lot of "stunt" casting this season: Globetrotter, Olympian, Amazing Race contestant, mother and daughter, etc. Not sure it really matters though, it's not as if it gives them any sort of advantage. 

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The best part of the show was seeing the woman with the giant flower leave.  When they showed the clip of another competitor calling her "cocky," I figured she must have annoyed everyone including the producers.

I think I knew two of the country singers although I'd heard of most of them.  I just don't know what they look like.  I've found that to be true for me with many of the categories that show just pictures of people.  

I wonder how many contestants are actually expert in their categories vs. people who have been assigned to them.  A comparison might be interesting.  It looks like some are selected for looks or personality or something rather than expertise.

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38 minutes ago, mlp said:

she must have annoyed everyone including the producers.

I bet the producers thought she was a controversial character but more so in "people will talk about her, in positive ways or bad ways" and I think she is a very you love her or you hate her type character. Either way, it gets people talking, and it's good for the show, somewhat. It's funny how she said she knew everything about her category then struggled to remember said things about that category and I think it was funny to see her get eliminated after getting so cocky about it.

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17 hours ago, mlp said:

The best part of the show was seeing the woman with the giant flower leave.  When they showed the clip of another competitor calling her "cocky," I figured she must have annoyed everyone including the producers.

Totally agree!  She was annoying me with her facial expressions and over-confident words.  Living in Chicago doesn't make you an expert on World Architecture.  As was shown!

I wish more of them had just guessed from context.  Wasn't one of the book "Snow ___"?  Even not having heard of the book I guessed.  Of course, that's sitting on my couch at home with no pressure.

And the model guy used some phrases I hadn't heard before, like "individual couch".  And something odd to me for the recliner.  Regional thing maybe

 

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I was really surprised that a new season is out already.  It's only been what, 2 months?

15 hours ago, Lantern7 said:

I’m good with the “celebrities” now. The guy that played Dante in Clerks wins three straight? Cool. I dunno if he qualifies as an actor. Wasn’t most of the cast made up of Kevin Smith’s friends?

Possible alert: there’s a bearded guy named Garrett representing Camping. I think he’s from Anna Leigh’s season of TAR.

Brian O'Halloran has 56 credits to his name on IMDB and has been working pretty steadily.  He may not be a household name or much of a celebrity, but he's still a working character actor.

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On 2/14/2025 at 10:45 AM, lh25 said:

Totally agree!  She was annoying me with her facial expressions and over-confident words.  Living in Chicago doesn't make you an expert on World Architecture.  As was shown!

Also, her age was listed as 30?!? Between her hair, her demeanor, and her outfit, she could easily pass for a woman in her 50s.

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And the model guy used some phrases I hadn't heard before, like "individual couch".  And something odd to me for the recliner.  Regional thing maybe

oh my God, I forgot about this guy and his creative naming conventions. Individual couch...lololololol. He did have a couple gems, but I can't remember them off the bat. 

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I’m good with the “celebrities” now. The guy that played Dante in Clerks wins three straight? Cool. I dunno if he qualifies as an actor. Wasn’t most of the cast made up of Kevin Smith’s friends?

Possible alert: there’s a bearded guy named Garrett representing Camping. I think he’s from Anna Leigh’s season of TAR.

 

Kenny and Mari from the Bachelor franchise are there too. I'm relieved to learn that there is stunt casting happening because several people looked very familiar to me and I couldn't figure out why.

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11 hours ago, GameJayAnalysis said:

I heard via Wikipedia that in episode 4 they are going to shake things up, apparently.

I'm pretty sure these tv types sit around a table & someone says "you know how successful this show has been in its current format, why don't we shake it up & make it less popular?". They are a complete & utter bunch of fucking idiots.

Like getting rid of Patton Oswald & replacing him with that total asshole Joel McHale on that other new quiz show.

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28 minutes ago, Shrek said:

why don't we shake it up & make it less popular

I'm pretty sure it's just a one-episode experiment, so afterwards the game will resume as it was before. I think they're changing the prize or how the randomizer works. Must be to address complaints about the entire "she only had to play X duels" the entire way or "X played 12 duels and got nothing!". We'll see how it goes and if it works or not, but it's too early to tell.

By the way, 9 duels for episode 3.

The Adirondak chair, I wonder if they had a Canadian if they would have accepted Muskoka Chair. They're basically the same thing, but the later is what Canucks know it ias. 

 

I have noticed that generally they will show the name the person said when they get an answer, even if there is another name it could be; usually due ot regional differences. I wonder what is really shown to the contestants as they get an answer. 

 

As for shaking things up, I'm not sure what they could do. The Time bonus was a good shakeup and certainly gives people a reason to stay up there. 

 

I almost wonder if they had a controversy or mistake, so the "shakeup" is to bring a contestant back, give them the choice of who to challenge and a chance to return to the game or something.

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On 2/13/2025 at 5:41 PM, mlp said:

I think I knew two of the country singers although I'd heard of most of them.  I just don't know what they look like.  I've found that to be true for me with many of the categories that show just pictures of people.  

I wonder how many contestants are actually expert in their categories vs. people who have been assigned to them.  A comparison might be interesting.  It looks like some are selected for looks or personality or something rather than expertise.

Is it confirmed that some people have categories assigned to them? Why would that be? It would seem unfair for some people to have categories they genuinely have knowledge in and others to have random categories.

But if they do choose their own categories, that sushi lady should be embarrassed, as should the country singer lady. I would give the country singer lady a slight pass because I wouldn't have known some of those more current singers by face, BUT Loretta Lynn is someone you would know if you genuinely had a strong knowledge of female country singers.

A lot of the people categories can be tough because you can't be sure what era they will be pulling from. The easiest categories seem to be the ones with objects, like kitchen utensils or whatever.

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14 minutes ago, ljenkins782 said:

Is it confirmed that some people have categories assigned to them? Why would that be? It would seem unfair for some people to have categories they genuinely have knowledge in and others to have random categories.

But if they do choose their own categories, that sushi lady should be embarrassed, as should the country singer lady. I would give the country singer lady a slight pass because I wouldn't have known some of those more current singers by face, BUT Loretta Lynn is someone you would know if you genuinely had a strong knowledge of female country singers.

A lot of the people categories can be tough because you can't be sure what era they will be pulling from. The easiest categories seem to be the ones with objects, like kitchen utensils or whatever.

I believe they are given a list of categories from which to choose. The boning up on each category is up to them & I get the feeling that some of them think they know enough to not bother looking things up. 

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I seem to recall reading (don't ask me where) that a lot of people will come in having chosen the same, or very similar, areas of expertise. A lot of people will want sci-fi, for instance, or movies, or rock music, etc. They can't give everyone their preferred category without a lot of duplication, so they have to assign things to some of the contestants.

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On 2/17/2025 at 10:05 AM, Shrek said:

I'm pretty sure these tv types sit around a table & someone says "you know how successful this show has been in its current format, why don't we shake it up & make it less popular?". They are a complete & utter bunch of fucking idiots.

I'll reserve judgment until I see what they have in mind, but producers tend to think they need to "shake things up" to keep the audience engaged and keep the show "fresh." It's way too early to be doing that here, this is only the third season. I also think producers and other people behind the scenes feel obligated to do something that shows they're earning their paycheck, or they simply want to put their mark on the show for their own ego.

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On 2/17/2025 at 11:05 AM, Shrek said:

Like getting rid of Patton Oswald & replacing him with that total asshole Joel McHale on that other new quiz show.

Oh noooo! Are you talking about The 1% Club? If so, nooooooo!!!

On 2/17/2025 at 3:10 PM, Taeolas said:

The Adirondak chair, I wonder if they had a Canadian if they would have accepted Muskoka Chair. They're basically the same thing, but the later is what Canucks know it as. 

I was truly puzzled with the 'correct' answer. I've never known it as anything but a Muskoka chair. (Yes, I'm Canadian.)

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9 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Oh noooo! Are you talking about The 1% Club? If so, nooooooo!!!

 

 

Yeah, the 1% club is hosted by Joel. I don't mind him personally; but I don't see the reason to swap hosts like this, aside from turning Fox into the All Joel network it seems. 

Patton has a dry humour that worked well for a "nerdy" show like 1%; but that talks better for its own show thread. 

Hopefully after 3 seasons, The Floor should be safe from McHaleification. 

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