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S06.E16: One Crazy Summer


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A major disagreement threatens Statler and Dempsey's relationship. Riley receives shocking news. Nicola proposes. Razvan is not sure his relationship with Amanda can be fixed. Cleo worries about Christian's commitment. Jasmine's visa interview goes awry.

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8 hours ago, magemaud said:

Boy, Jasmine really toned down her look for the visa interview! 

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That looks like one of those photoshop disaster pics.  Her ear is apparently has a sharp edge, and the rest is just...wrong.

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Stapler really needs therapy - not a girlfriend. Burnt dinner? It's because she was abandoned and adopted as a baby. Changed her mind about kids? Same excuse.  Forgot your birthday? Same excuse.  She was adopted very young. Imagine the kids who grew up in the system.  What's their excuse??

There is her truth, her truth and the real truth somewhere in the middle.  I bet Dempsey did ask the question (maybe in passing) while they were talking online about kids and Statler just gave some answer so that she can keep going the relationship going as she gets freaky about English women.  

I really wonder what Amanda's and Jason's courtship was like.  Was she hot/cold with him too? What did it take for him to leave his family for her? A leopard doesn't change spots and I wonder the crap she's pulled with Ravzan is the same she did with her deceased husband.

Cleo should have given back the hoodie. $10 says that Christian ghosts her when he gets back to the States.  I mean, there are other "firsts" to conqueror now.

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9 minutes ago, greekmom said:

 

I really wonder what Amanda's and Jason's courtship was like.  Was she hot/cold with him too? What did it take for him to leave his family for her?

Apparently from what I've read they had already split up when he met Amanda. 

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10 hours ago, magemaud said:

Which I had to beg him for. 

Well she had to beg him for sex too.

2 hours ago, greekmom said:

I bet Dempsey did ask the question (maybe in passing) while they were talking online

I think Statler basically admitted this and then said her opinions change day to day so she may flip again later.  Exhausting.   Um once you have the kids it’s a lifelong commitment.

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2 hours ago, greekmom said:

wonder the crap she's pulled with Ravzan is the same she did with her deceased husband.

I bet Razvan has dated many more “hot” women than Jason did so he realizes that looks alone are not enough.  Jason was pretty dumpy and may have been willing to put up with any behavior to stay in a relationship with a conventionally attractive woman.

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44 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

I bet Razvan has dated many more “hot” women than Jason did so he realizes that looks alone are not enough.  Jason was pretty dumpy and may have been willing to put up with any behavior to stay in a relationship with a conventionally attractive woman.

Jason probably considered her a "trophy wife." 

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She was adopted very young. Imagine the kids who grew up in the system.  What's their excuse??

It's not uncommon for adopted children to have abandonment issues even when they were adopted as newborns; even when they are old enough to understand why their birth parents placed them for adoption. The fact that some kids have it "even worse" doesn't make them feel any better, nor should it.

I think that Statler's discussion of the impacts of adoption on her is the most (only) honest and real thing about her. I think it explains a lot of her issues; I just wish she could translate that insight into the ability and willingness to address her issues. 

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As usual, I despise Statler. She is a manipulator, narcissist, and gaslighter. Even her flip-flopping about having children drives me nuts. I'm only 7 minutes into watching the episode, and Statler has already increased my blood pressure. I wish Dempsey could see through her BS and just tell her go on her way, and to not call again. Once again, I have to repeat that I have no idea what Statler's intentions are, but they're definitely not to settle down with Dempsey. I suppose her endgame is either to be on tv, or to pursue stand-up comedy? Who knows, but her personality is off putting.

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Unpopular opinion: I like Statler (except when she vomits up her sexual exploits on uncomfortable strangers). I hope those kids make it work.

Amanda on the other hand? Can't stand her. Hate that Razvan got sucked back in when she love bombed him. And why does she do everything in slo-mo?

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I can imagine that Yeeno and Jeeeyasmin will get the visa approved. If the embassy needs any proof that their love is real, all the need to see is the footage of her talking about lifting her leg and peeing on him to get him off. 

That's pure-D love right there.

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1 hour ago, JeanJean said:

Amanda on the other hand? Can't stand her. Hate that Razvan got sucked back in when she love bombed him. And why does she do everything in slo-mo?

I think she has no energy because she's anorexic. She spends all her energy on hair and make-up, puts on her signature jeans and solid colored t-shirt, spends the day trying to avoid eating and waiting for bed. As someone with an eating disorder, it's very evident she is struggling with food and her body image. She's also a big-boned person so she can't get rid of her hips and shoulders. She has a large frame, which I think makes her insecure. She's not smart, nor clever, and has no personality and Razvan is all three. I can see why she is clinging back to Razvan because he's attractive and adores her and good luck finding a decent guy in the random meth town she lives in. She needs a leader, and I think he could be that for her. 

 

 

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On 9/16/2023 at 6:03 PM, Elizzikra said:

I think that Statler's discussion of the impacts of adoption on her is the most (only) honest and real thing about her. I think it explains a lot of her issues; I just wish she could translate that insight into the ability and willingness to address her issues. 

Sometimes though, people learn that you can use the abandonment angle re: adoption as a crutch to get out of uncomfortable situations. Statler's personality betrays that she has abandonment issues, but moreso she has control issues.

In counseling, as soon as the psychologist gets to an area that's too close to the truth, the client throw up being in foster care, or being abandoned, as the reason they can't go further into the discussion. I don't quite buy it in Statler's position.

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14 minutes ago, Chalby said:

Sometimes though, people learn that you can use the abandonment angle re: adoption as a crutch to get out of uncomfortable situations. Statler's personality betrays that she has abandonment issues, but moreso she has control issues.

In counseling, as soon as the psychologist gets to an area that's too close to the truth, the client throw up being in foster care, or being abandoned, as the reason they can't go further into the discussion. I don't quite buy it in Statler's position.

I don't remember her ever using it to avoid something, though. And it's good, perhaps, to be aware of the issues you bring into a relationship so your partner's not flying blind.

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Well Violets not pregnant. 
 

Statlers still a piece of shit tried to guilt trip Dempsey about anxiety. 
 

Statler know good damn well she ain’t having no baby. 
 

Dempsey better not go for that shit. 
 

Cleo crying. She likes Chris way more then he likes her. He thinks he can do anything to her. 
 

Cleo is hot. She looks like a model. 
 

Riley had me cracking up.!!!! I might be a dad. 
 

Meisha will you marry me???? With no ring. Dudes negotiating the ring trying to get it cheap in front of his girl. That was comedy. 

3 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

I think she has no energy because she's anorexic. She spends all her energy on hair and make-up, puts on her signature jeans and solid colored t-shirt, spends the day trying to avoid eating and waiting for bed. As someone with an eating disorder, it's very evident she is struggling with food and her body image. She's also a big-boned person so she can't get rid of her hips and shoulders. She has a large frame, which I think makes her insecure. She's not smart, nor clever, and has no personality and Razvan is all three. I can see why she is clinging back to Razvan because he's attractive and adores her and good luck finding a decent guy in the random meth town she lives in. She needs a leader, and I think he could be that for her. 

 

 

Yo Amanda’s curves are beautiful. She got a wonderful body. 
 

 

3 hours ago, Lurk said:

I can imagine that Yeeno and Jeeeyasmin will get the visa approved. If the embassy needs any proof that their love is real, all the need to see is the footage of her talking about lifting her leg and peeing on him to get him off. 

That's pure-D love right there.

Cause that’s how a girl shows love to a man. She pees on him. 

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So disappointed that Raz fell for Amanda's bullshit. Just wait until he comes over to podunk Louisiana for Thanksgiving. Then again, maybe he can film a hot video of him stuffing the turkey for his online fans and make some bank so it won't be a total loss ;) 

I thought Statler was refreshingly honest and personally I think it is a bit strange that Dempsey reacted the way that she did after the kids convo. I mean, yes, that IS something you need to be sure you are on the same page about BEFORE you actually bring kids into the relationship, or get married. But, after what, 2 weeks of dating?? I have heard tales of women who on the first date ask a man this and most run screaming in the opposite direction. I mean, Dempsey, are you seriously thinking that Statler is THE ONE and that you guys are ready to settle down? Fuck no. You are still in the getting to know you stage. Figuring shit out. Just calm the F down. And yes, opinions on kids or no can change depending where you are in life. 

Jasmine----of course she loses her shit and has a hysterical breakdown because it didn't go EXACTLY to plan. As Gino said, they did not deny it. I thought she looked prettier with the toned down look and I loved the pink suit. Of course, the previews of the tell all let us know that she is in the US so, obviously she gets approved. Wonder how she loved snowy Michigan, lol. 

Cleo---the crying was over the top. She cries more than Kenny and Armando and Armando's Mama combined. Is it legit? Does she have some sort of mental imbalance? Is this what she thinks woman do when in love? It just seemed over the top and fake for a couple that barely had any connection to speak of, physical or otherwise. 

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How could I leave out Riley and Violet! I now wonder if there are a LOT of details that Riley left out wrt how much $$$ he sent Violet before his trip to meet her. He didnt' seem to skimp on stuff while in Vietnam and the trip itself could not have been cheap. She was so cold and indifferent to him at least when they were filming...now we find out that she randomly showed up at night at his hotel and they had sex. Yet he didn't share that at all with the camera crew?? Either she was already pregnant or suspected and just did that to possibly get him to pop the question.....or this whole thing is made up on Riley's end.

I noticed they didn't show the screenshots of any of her text messages related to the "pregnancy". He told his "sister" all about the back and forth and tracking down a doctor for her, the offers to pay etc, but we weren't shown any of them. And the texts he did show just seemed....off. She asked him to block her. Why wouldnt' she just block him? I sort of see now why he had so many questions. As he said if she was just looking for a green card and a marriage proposal shouldn't she have been sweeter to him while he was there?  Is it possible that she has some sort of mental illness? Overall, Riley should have blocked this woman and moved on long, long ago. The trip shouldn't have ever happened.  

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Up to last night, Dempsey had owned the only entire common sense cell in the entire season.  What happened?  They have been in person for two weeks or so, which to me is too soon to decide on kids or live together.  You're still in the coffee and lunch stage.  What's the rush?   So Statler has to renew her lease for a year; that's actually a gift of much more time to get to know one another. There have already been serious areas of incompatibility that deserve much more conversation than kids or cohabitating.

That isn't even addressing the fact that you can't just move to the U.K. next week on a whim.

I agree that Cleo was inexplicably crying so hard over a guy she had zero chemistry with and 99% of the time seemed to want out of there.  A guy that her friend didn't like, also.  Here too was evidence that he's a player and wasn't into Cleo but didn't have the brass ones to admit it and just go to being friends.  Cleo was too invested in making it work out that she couldn't tell herself the truth either. That attempt at romance for a season was one of the most awkward of all time. Watch her be cheated on/ghosted/treated badly as revealed on the Tell-All.

I hate to admit it, being in the South myself, but Razvan is going to get to little spit of a town Louisiana with Amanda, her children, and Jason's ashes and pine for the culture and pace of life back in Bucharest.  I would!  He doesn't seem like a good fit.  Like Miona, who wanted big city and she found herself in not-so Rapid City, South Dakota.  I'm surprised that the flapping green card overran his spot on assessment of their relationship.

This is your life, Meisha, if you accept it: a colorless, bland, vanilla pudding of a guy to whom religion is #1 and who kept you a secret for seven years (or has she forgotten that?)  Will it be seven more years to get the annulment and whatever excuses Nicola can come up with to avoid moving out of Mommy's house?  Next it will be "She's sick and needs me!".  You're not even talking someone attractive, with a good career (as in he has none), with sex appeal, and even a personality.  There have been popes with more charm and sex appeal than this (and they used it).

I feel most for the kid that Violet is supposedly carrying (I don't buy it, but assuming).  Riley was an obnoxious, self-righteous twit and then did the deed without protection.  Violet was there, too and didn't insist on it!  That makes them both dumb as rocks.

Gino and Jasmine are unbearable.  And here they come again!

 

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9 minutes ago, AR Traveler said:

I feel most for the kid that Violet is supposedly carrying (I don't buy it, but assuming).  Riley was an obnoxious, self-righteous twit and then did the deed without protection.  Violet was there, too and didn't insist on it!  That makes them both dumb as rocks.

 

 

I enjoyed your whole post (very insightful) but didn't want to repost the whole thing. Hence, the editing!

I am thinking that Violet really doesn't want Reilly, she only wants the child support that she thinks he may provide.  This may not be the first time she has used this to make money. Interesting that after showing no affection for the entire trip, she shows up RIGHT before he leaves and after everything is packed up. (I know he said he didn't bring condoms, which would be stupid for an 18 year old, much less someone of his age!)

And just 4 weeks after he left, she knows she is pregnant seems quick.

 

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These people are just so dumb. Or they think we're all dumb for believing this stuff is real.

Cleo, what a bad actress she is. She went to the Sobbyn Robbyn Brown School of Tearless Dry Eye Crying. She always squeezes her face up like she's got a turd lodged way north of the exit zone. I didn't see one actual tear all the gazillion times She tried to squeeze one out of her eye holes. And Christian comes across as a self-hating homophobe who dabbled in the Trans pool but hates himself for it and thus seeks female validation every chance he gets. He just wanted to experience something 'different' and probably tells himself how cool and open he is, but he's not into her at all. In fact I'd like to know exactly what 'we were intimate' actually means? Touchy touchy? Sucky sucky? Fucky fucky? I seriously doubt they had actual sex at this point.

And since we're on the subject, I also question what Violet and Riley actually did on their super secret tryst. 😳  He's on meds that make him temporarily sterile? She knows she's pregnant like 4 weeks after he left? She refuses to see the doctor he'll pay for? It's all totally suss at this point.

Statler is a nutter. A narcissist who makes everything about her and then when things don't go her way, she deflects and blames the other person. Dempsey is in for a world of hurt if she continues with this. Statler needs serious therapy, not a relationship.

Misha, WTF are you thinking girl? She is in love with his 'holiness' but she also wants sexual compatibility? I think she thinks she can train him in the sack but that's not happening. This guy who's never felt up a girl already knows everything he needs to know about pleasing women because....he has friends...and they tell him stuff...Oy! If she married him she deserves whatever she gets at this point.

Razvan, you pussy whipped simp! You KNOW this relationship is toxic, but you cave because monotone Amanda gave you a card and some stuffed animals?!? I had such high hopes for you dude. PS: You will never be accepted in her backwater, podunk Louisiana town. You will be miserable there dude.

Yeeno and JeeAAZmine, just go away already. Nobody cares.

I can't remember anything else, I must have blacked out in boredom.

 

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No Razvan, the real Amanda is that dead-eyed bitch who makes you feel less than. This romantic, gift giving, putting out like a porn star version is what you'll get only when she needs to get you back where she wants you. I bet she wrote that same bs in a card to Jason.

Violet waited until the last night to get it on with Riley so a repeat performance couldn't occur. She needed to withstand it once for this pregnancy scheme, and she hates this dude, so her skin is probably still crawling from his touch.

Nicola been saving his allowance for the last 5 years to buy that ring. It's okay though. He prayed on it and mama will continue to support him until Meesha takes over.

Let's just focus on that 10 minutes when things were good, Cleo. Don't dry cry babe. I still plan to treat you like dirt for awhile more. I love you.

Jazz looked fairly classy with her tits covered and face less spackled. Then she ugly cry shrieked and ruined the whole facade.

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4 minutes ago, applewood said:

I can't stand Amanda. She seems so immature. I can't believe she's 31 with two children. She seems like she's 18 or 19.

She must have been very sheltered when she was married to Jason.

It would appear any personal development or mental growth stopped the minute she got married if not the minute they met. I'm guessing by her comment & his smile that her 1 redeeming feature is that she gives a good BJ but even that wears off eventually without anything to back it up.

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I don’t think Violet is pregnant, BUT knowing 4weeks after sex isn’t odd these days. Home pregnancy tests can very accurate before you’ve even missed your period ~2weeks after sex. Riley is 50 and has NO kids? He either knows how to wrap it up or he has fertility issues.
 

I think Violet is pregnant like I’m a size 6 (I’m a size 14) and this is for storyline purposes. 
 

 

I don’t think Christian is into Cleo. Cleo aggravates me sometimes, but I think she really liked him. He should just TELL HER that it was a great visit but he doesn’t see them having a future (maybe he will next episode), if he does I won’t complain about Christian. 

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1 hour ago, J80134 said:

Violet waited until the last night to get it on with Riley so a repeat performance couldn't occur. She needed to withstand it once for this pregnancy scheme, and she hates this dude, so her skin is probably still crawling from his touch.

I do wonder if she has pulled this scam on other guys who have come to town to visit. She may be hoping he just sends her some $$ to go away, or starts sending monthly support payments and then won't have any $$ to actually go visit his "child." 

 

Who could forget Meisha and NIIIIICOOOOLAAAAA. That was a laughable excuse for a heartfelt proposal. And the haggling over the cost on that tiny ring? I admit, I was surprised it cost THAT much given the speck of a stone. Just how does he even have ANY money for that ring? I really, really don't get the attraction here, at all. He isn't charming, or funny, or physically attractive. There really is no big mystery as to why he is still a single virgin at his age. And when he goes on and on about religious stuff, the look she gets on her face makes me think she is a bit....slow. Cause this guy isn't some great religious scholar or orator. Sniffing his pits? WTF. I just vomited a little in my mouth remembering that scene. 

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I don’t think Christian is into Cleo. Cleo aggravates me sometimes, but I think she really liked him. He should just TELL HER that it was a great visit but he doesn’t see them having a future (maybe he will next episode), if he does I won’t complain about Christian. 

And if he does, the second he does, if it is at the tell all, they will all pile on him as being transphobic. Maybe being trans is part of it, maybe it is the multitude of OTHER issues Cleo has (and he has too). He looked like he couldn't wait for that plane to take off so he could switch off the camera and start throwing back the drinks to try and forget the nightmare visit. 

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Just now, Stuckathome said:

I do wonder if she has pulled this scam on other guys who have come to town to visit. She may be hoping he just sends her some $$ to go away, or starts sending monthly support payments and then won't have any $$ to actually go visit his "child." 

 

I could see it as a scam to get money to terminate a faux pregnancy, but no man with half a brain in the 21st century would send child support with out a DNA test and EVIDENCE of an actual BABY.

2 minutes ago, Stuckathome said:

And if he does, the second he does, if it is at the tell all, they will all pile on him as being transphobic. Maybe being trans is part of it, maybe it is the multitude of OTHER issues Cleo has (and he has too). He looked like he couldn't wait for that plane to take off so he could switch off the camera and start throwing back the drinks to try and forget the nightmare visit. 

I hope they don’t pile onto him for being transphobic when it’s clear that he and Cleo had so many issues. I did think Christian was leading her on at first, but who knows he may have really wanted all the money for the season. I agree he couldn’t wait to get out of there and dump her over FaceTime. 

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Just now, Scarlett45 said:

no man with half a brain in the 21st century would send child support with out a DNA test and EVIDENCE of an actual BABY.

Agree. But, this IS Riley we are talking about, lol. Still, I think for a price, anything can be faked in Vietnam. I think it is telling that she won't go to the doc he found at the international hospital. She was married, she had children before and she should understand that he rightfully wants some proof. She may have a friend who will doctor up a DNA/paternity test result, a friend who had a mixed race baby that they can use the photos of....what are the chances he will actually travel back and say hey Violet I want to be there the entirety of your actual pregnancy? 

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17 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I hope they don’t pile onto him for being transphobic when it’s clear that he and Cleo had so many issues. I did think Christian was leading her on at first, but who knows he may have really wanted all the money for the season. I agree he couldn’t wait to get out of there and dump her over FaceTime. 

I think he liked the idea that she was an "Italian model" so he could brag to his friends. From what I could see, the fact she's trans didn't seem to bug him.  More likely, he just wants to be part of the 90 Day gravy train.

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Cleo is a hot Italian. She has low self esteem. She needs to be with a man. Who goes crazy over her trans hotness and can’t keep his hands off of her. The complete opposite of Chris. 
 

Jane told her. Chris said it all Cleo is crying balling. And this dude can’t get out of the car and console her. He’s laughing saying he will be back. He couldn’t wait to leave. If that was sincere he’d be running back trying to hug her. 
 

his actions said everything. We can joke about it. But damn randomly hitting on girls inviting them to Thanksgiving is bizarre. Chris is a bizarre guy. 
 

And Cleo needs to be with a man who supports her and wants to cater to her and be around here. 

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Compassion Chris didn’t show Cleo compassion. The bar with the chicks who were sitting by her. I don’t get it. Why leave that first bar and not stay there. I’m just appalled. 
 

seems like this whole season was a big funny fest for Chris. 
 

The season Overall was a little boring. The Tyre thing was so weird how it was resolved. 
 

And Gino and Jasmine will be on the new season no word yet if we will see more pee from Jasmine. 
 

This network should really watch who they put on T.V. I don’t know if Statler was using TLC to punk everybody but her shit looked mad sus. 
 

Razvan and Amanda I was just waiting for him to say I want to suck your blood. lol. 
 

And Violet Riley the comedy. Is Riley Smashing his air quotes sister? 
 

Tell All will be all types of drama. This show really needs to get back to finding interesting characters. 

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1 hour ago, cynicat said:

See, I think he liked the idea that she was an "Italian model" so he could brag to his friends. From what I could see, the fact she's trans didn't seem to bug him.  More likely, he just wants to be part of the 90 Day gravy train.

I think he has massive issues with her being trans and I think that's why he told production nothing happened in the sack. For Cleo, particularly as a trans woman, I would guess that being with a man who lies about being with you is like the ultimate betrayal and a huge red flag. Nothing in this guy's actions say he's into Cleo but she's too desperate for a relationship to see the massive warning signs. It's sad, really, assuming its even real. Nobody deserves to be treated the way he treats her. He's a gaslighting motherfucker, again IF it's real.

OTOH, I'm soooo over Cleo's constant fake crying, and I'm also over how whenever there's an issue she pulls 'Oh but I'm autistic' out as her blanket excuse. I don't buy that Violet's pregnant and I don't think I buy that Cleo is on the spectrum. None of us really knows what part of these stories are made uo and what is real, but overall, these people all feel like they're trying on various personas to see what will stick on the show and what will garner them a longer ride on THE TLC Gravy Train (I'm looking at YOU, Jasmine and Gino!). Frankly, I just look at this show as a dramatic recreation of a made up soap opera st this point because all these folks are so.over the top ridiculous. 🙄

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2 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Agree. But, this IS Riley we are talking about, lol. Still, I think for a price, anything can be faked in Vietnam. I think it is telling that she won't go to the doc he found at the international hospital. She was married, she had children before and she should understand that he rightfully wants some proof. She may have a friend who will doctor up a DNA/paternity test result, a friend who had a mixed race baby that they can use the photos of....what are the chances he will actually travel back and say hey Violet I want to be there the entirety of your actual pregnancy? 

And how happy Violet would be for him to return! That might be poetic justice! 

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8 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

She asked him to block her. Why wouldn't she just block him?

My guess (and as I always, I claim no "inside information"): she's a sex worker whose phone is monitored by her pimp/manager/whoever. They check her Block List and would want to know why his number is on it. But if he blocks her, there'd be no evidence on her phone. She could simply delete the entire text transcript.

Second possibility: Someone else got ahold of Violet's phone and was trying to permanently stop the relationship, so they asked Riley to block the number. Violet would get the phone back and not know why she was blocked, and would have no way of finding out.

It's suspicious either way.

 

7 hours ago, surfgirl said:

She refuses to see the doctor he'll pay for? It's all totally suss at this point.

That was bizarre. In a country with sketchy medical care, he's offering her a full-ride OB/GYN and she turns him down? I'm guessing it's because a real doctor would know that she's not pregnant, or at least the timelines with their tryst and the baby's development don't match up.

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1 hour ago, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:

My guess (and as I always, I claim no "inside information"): she's a sex worker whose phone is monitored by her pimp/manager/whoever. They check her Block List and would want to know why his number is on it. But if he blocks her, there'd be no evidence on her phone. She could simply delete the entire text transcript.

Second possibility: Someone else got ahold of Violet's phone and was trying to permanently stop the relationship, so they asked Riley to block the number. Violet would get the phone back and not know why she was blocked, and would have no way of finding out.

It's suspicious either way.

 

That was bizarre. In a country with sketchy medical care, he's offering her a full-ride OB/GYN and she turns him down? I'm guessing it's because a real doctor would know that she's not pregnant, or at least the timelines with their tryst and the baby's development don't match up.

Damn is this 90 day fiancé or 48 hours? 

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19 hours ago, Craigcodybazhate said:

Dudes negotiating the ring trying to get it cheap in front of his girl.

There must be quite a markup that the jeweler could come down so much so fast.  Unless it was all staged.

12 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Just wait until he comes over to podunk Louisiana for Thanksgiving.

She relocated to Ohio to be closer to her sister. But still podunk.

12 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Is this what she thinks woman do when in love?

She is a woman.

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6 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Still, I think for a price, anything can be faked in Vietnam.

On Love After Lockup a woman bought a fake marriage license for $99.  So I’m sure Violet could get a fake birth certificate for less than that in Vietnam.  And borrow a friend’s baby for pics.  And the DNA samples keep getting “lost.”

What is this magical drug that lowers sperm count to zero and why can’t all men take it so women can get off birth control lol?

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I agree that Cleo was inexplicably crying so hard over a guy she had zero chemistry with and 99% of the time seemed to want out of there.  A guy that her friend didn't like, also.  Here too was evidence that he's a player and wasn't into Cleo but didn't have the brass ones to admit it and just go to being friends.  Cleo was too invested in making it work out that she couldn't tell herself the truth either. That attempt at romance for a season was one of the most awkward of all time. Watch her be cheated on/ghosted/treated badly as revealed on the Tell-All.

I wonder who he got drunk with on the plane ride home.

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There must be quite a markup that the jeweler could come down so much so fast.  Unless it was all staged.

I currently work in a similar type of retail setting. Wholesale is quite a bit lower than retail but the markup has to cover staff salary, insurance, rent for the shop, commissions, etc. After all that, there's only a little wiggle room (at least here, I have no idea how retail works in Jerusalem). I think it was all staged and if I were Meisha, I would have stepped away while they talked finances. I don't know how much my engagement ring cost or how big the stone is and I have no interest in knowing. I only care that it was the ring my wonderful husband chose to propose with, so it's perfect.

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What is this magical drug that lowers sperm count to zero and why can’t all men take it so women can get off birth control lol?

I feel like, at times, I've read about research into a male pill but I don't think it ever pans out. I do know that some chemo for cancer will lower sperm count significantly; my brother had cancer during his prime child-producing years and while he wasn't actively trying, his doctors warned him that a) it would be much harder for him to impregnate someone because of low sperm count and b) he should still practice safe sex because they really weren't sure how the chemo would affect any sperm that might manage to swim through and make a baby.

And let me just say that I never, ever want to type that much about my brother's sperm ever again.

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