S06.E12: Field of Dreams

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Riley attempts to reconcile with Violet; Gino is ready for a baby; Cleo seeks guidance from the stars; Nicola struggles to come clean to his family; Statler tries to repair her fragile relationship with Dempsey; Sheila's son is wary of David.
 

First Look: 8/18/23

Full Episode: 8/20/23

[AR Traveler]

Can anyone start the thread for that week's episode, or do you have to be a mod?

Almost Sunday again with some of my favorite people in Internet-land!

[DEL901]

11 minutes ago, AR Traveler said:

Can anyone start the thread for that week's episode, or do you have to be a mod?

Almost Sunday again with some of my favorite people in Internet-land!

Anyone can.  I’ve started episode threads before.  

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Anyone can.  I usually wait until Saturday because Greek Mom or someone else usually starts one on Friday.

Really classy of Riley to set the bouquet on the floor before giving it to her.  

[AR Traveler]

2 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Anyone can.  I usually wait until Saturday because Greek Mom or someone else usually starts one on Friday.

Really classy of Riley to set the bouquet on the floor before giving it to her.  

I saw that too.  That conversation made me think of what Dr. Phil said: If you say "I'm sorry, but...", everything after the "but" negates "I'm sorry".

[greekmom]

11 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Anyone can.  I usually wait until Saturday because Greek Mom or someone else usually starts one on Friday.

Really classy of Riley to set the bouquet on the floor before giving it to her.  

I needed a break from it. So TBD if i start doing it again.

Boyfriend was strong armed in watching the preview with me. His gaydar pinged with Riley.  I told him about Riley's past girlfriends but he insists that Riley isn't into gals.

He said that Nicola is delusional for thinking to find a virgin that is 40 unless he might find some nun who is leaving the order.

Oh and that big Pred looks like Chet the ogre from Weird Science.

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4 hours ago, greekmom said:

His gaydar pinged with Riley. 

He does own the complete Elton John.

[anoninrva]

I really dislike Nicola.  None of these couples work except for David and Shelia.  I thought his rough-housing was fairly gentle and age-appropriate.  Hopefully him being poor (for the US) isn't going to be a deal-breaker.  Riley and Violet, Cleo and Chris, Jasmine and Gino all seem like they keep trying to salvage relationships that are already dissolving.

[surfgirl]

These people are such losers.

Riley & Violet: He's a big wuss baby, and Violet is a bitch. They deserve each other.

Nicola & Misha: He's another putz and she's delusional. She could get a decent guy in the USA, IMO, why she's enamored with this stooge is beyond me.

Jasmine & Gino: These two have to be faking a relationship. Or she's a really bad gold digger, more like a copper digger. It's painful to watch Gino because he seems to be on the spectrum or maybe he has Turettes, I don't know but it's weird that it's never mentioned at all yet the camera always does close ups of all his ticks and twitches. He acts like he has arrested development too.

Cleo & Chris: I think these two are faking to be on the show. Cleo does that tearless crying and it comes across as fake and for the camera. Chris seems like he's faking it too.

David & Sheila: I cannot believe he cannot find a nice woman at home. Sheila lit up and practically squealed when the translator told her he made $800/week, and the attitude talking to the contractor pretty much gave her away. She'll be with anyone who will give her money and/or bring her to the US. I get it, she's very poor, but David is a nice soul and deserves someone who will love him for hom and nothing else. I thinknhe and the translator make a nice couple.

Edited August 21, 2023 by surfgirl

[bravofan27]

Riley is not going to be happy until Violet admits she kept her dating app active after asking him to take his down. She's not going to do this. He's tried to bring in a private detective, his horrible female friend to get this information out. I think at this point, he needs to move on with making this point. 

Sattler is hobosexual.

 

[Hellohappylife]

Riley/violet- TOXIC.

Nicola- Is a cold, unattractive,uncaring rude man child. 

Christian- I agree, the planets & stars won’t reveal your future. Cleo needs to be more confident before getting into relationship.

Gino- Who waits until 56 to have a child?!?

All that plastic surgery why would she want a baby? She doesn’t take care of the ones she has it appears. 

Dempsey- RUN.

David- Is sweet, I don’t know how he can financially support them all. 12/13 is a big age to move a kid to new country, he’s going to need to learn a lot more english fast. I want them to be happy the most out of all these others.

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2 minutes ago, Hellohappylife said:

Nicola- Is a cold, unattractive,uncaring rude man child. 

The whole family fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch going down.

Does David have rosacea or some kind of rash constantly?

[Elizzikra]

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Gino- Who waits until 56 to have a child?!?

George Clooney was about that age when he first became a dad. Tony Randall was like, 80. And some other famous actor just became a father for the first time in, I think, his late 60's. Robert DeNiro, maybe?

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David & Sheila: I cannot believe he cannot find a nice woman at home. Sheila lit up and practically squealed when the translator told her he made $800/week, and the attitude talking to the contractor pretty much gave her away. She'll be with anyone who will give her money and/or bring her to the US. I get it, she's very poor, but David is a nice soul and deserves someone who will love him for hom and nothing else. I thinknhe and the translator make a nice couple.

I don't think that is quite accurate about Sheila. It think she is genuinely fond of David and, while she is certainly looking to better things for herself and her family by moving to America, I don't think that is the only reason she is with David. I don't love the translator; I think she is a little condescending, honestly. I think if David and Sheila can get through the hurdles of appearing on this show, they have a genuine chance of actually making it a a couple.

[Matty]

Dempsey is one of the most well-adjusted people that has appeared on any of the 90 Day Fiance seasons. She's calm, articulate, level-headed, nice, reasonable. She's a cool person and seems to have her act together. Enter Statler. Weird, chaotic, unstable, clingy, needy. Statler needs to slow down, go home, and evaluate things before she pressures Dempsey further. Who tells someone "I'm moving to England and I'm moving in with you!" Statler had an entire one-sided plan figured out for her life. Only problem is that Dempsey wasn't consulted. 

I have no words for Nikola and his family. What a painful first visit that was. It's all on Nikola. What the heck does Miesha see in this guy?

Edited August 21, 2023 by Matty

[Shauna]

I was shocked to see Statler is actually 33.  I thought she was more like 23-24.  I wouldn't have been surprised if she was 20.  Very unstable. 

[anoninrva]

22 minutes ago, Shauna said:

I was shocked to see Statler is actually 33.  I thought she was more like 23-24.  I wouldn't have been surprised if she was 20.  Very unstable. 

I always wonder about the framing of the show, but, yeah, she went from quirky to damaged pretty quickly.  Of the handful of people I know, including my father, who have been adopted, I haven't seen quite this level of clinginess, but that is admittedly anecdotal. 

[bravofan27]

Why is Riley talking like a baby?

[Hellohappylife]

4 minutes ago, bravofan27 said:

Why is Riley talking like a baby?

it’s his native language.

[Breedom]

I nearly fell off my chair when Nicola mentioned his mom was only 70 years old. Nicola could pass for that!  Then when I saw the mom, I saw that she could pass for twice that age. Yikes. I could see where Nicola got his looks from.

I've said this before, but why does every first meeting with family or friends begin with staring and/or uncomfortable silence? Doesn't anyone have anything to say? Meisha is one of the few people on the show who is gracious, thoughtful and tries to engage. She deserves so much better than what she is settling for. She's setting herself up for a life of pure misery with this misfit. Run, girl. You've found someone who isn't capable of sharing a life with you or anyone else.

[Breedom]

2 hours ago, Matty said:

Statler needs to slow down, go home, and evaluate things before she pressures Dempsey further. Who tells someone "I'm moving to England and I'm moving in with you!"

"We've known each other for seven months!"

Uh . . . okay.

You don't know anything about Dempsey, girl. The fact that you think you do tells me you haven't a clue as to what being in a loving, supporting, successful relationship is.

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2 hours ago, Matty said:

Enter Statler.

“I know other people move more slowly in relationships but that’s not how I roll!  Texting, messaging,  and FaceTiming for seven months means we have a real and deep relationship and eternal love!”

1 hour ago, Shauna said:

I wouldn't have been surprised if she was 20. 

She talks about adoption like she is an eight-year-old.  I was rejected before I was even born!  Um, your parents didn’t know you as a person at that point.  It most likely was they were unable to raise any child.  I get that every adopted child has some questions but if she claims it is messing up all her adult relationships get some therapy.

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25 minutes ago, Breedom said:

i’ve said this before, but why does every first meeting with family or friends begin with staring and/or uncomfortable silence?

David wants to bond with the kid but his sole question was what sports does he like.  What is you favorite subject in school?  Favorite animal?  What do you want to be when you grow up?  Any favorite superheroes?  He’s not really trying.

[Elizzikra]

7 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

“I know other people move more slowly in relationships but that’s not how I roll!  Texting, messaging,  and FaceTiming for seven months means we have a real and deep relationship and eternal love!”

She talks about adoption like she is an eight-year-old.  I was rejected before I was even born!  Um, your parents didn’t know you as a person at that point.  It most likely was they were unable to raise any child.  I get that every adopted child has some questions but if she claims it is messing up all her adult relationships get some therapy.

Being adopted can be really fraught for some people. It does sound like Statler could use some therapy so that she can understand that her birth parents like did want her very much but placed her for adoption because they felt they could not provide for her. 

As much as I feel for her struggling with those types of issues, I just plain don't like her. She gets to the end of the conversation with Dempsey, makes out like she understands where Dempsey is coming from and everything is fine, then in her talking head says "I just hope I can change her mind and she will let me move in after all." Like that entire conversation didn't just happen. 

[Gobi]

6 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

David wants to bond with the kid but his sole question was what sports does he like.  What is you favorite subject in school?  Favorite animal?  What do you want to be when you grow up?  Any favorite superheroes?  He’s not really trying.

I imagine David does not engage in much small talk and hence isn’t very good at it.

[Breedom]

10 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

David wants to bond with the kid but his sole question was what sports does he like.  What is you favorite subject in school?  Favorite animal?  What do you want to be when you grow up?  Any favorite superheroes?  He’s not really trying.

I thought the same thing and was puzzled as to why he couldn't think of one more thing to ask. I like that he is totally on board in being a dad, but he has to learn how to relate to a child, whether he is hearing or not. Look online - what is a 10 (or whatever age) year old boy interested in? He quickly reverted to a hand game with the little boy which was a fantastic idea.

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16 minutes ago, Gobi said:

I imagine David does not engage in much small talk and hence isn’t very good at it.

Yeah but trying to get to know someone you expect to move across the globe and live with you is more than small talk.

9 minutes ago, Breedom said:

He quickly reverted to a hand game with the little boy which was a fantastic idea.

I just don’t know how long horseplay is supposed to keep the kid’s interest, especially as he matures.  And David expects him to learn English yet is not trying to learn to read lips.

[Shrek]

11 hours ago, surfgirl said:

These people are such losers.

 

Nicola & Misha: He's another putz and she's delusional. She could get a decent guy in the USA, IMO, why she's enamored with this stooge is beyond me.

 

I have no doubt she could find a like minded Qanon, flat earth believing god botherer quite easily at truth social or whatever it's called who is in her own country, she's quite a good looking lady so it can't be that difficult.

[Hellohappylife]

1 hour ago, Breedom said:

I've said this before, but why does every first meeting with family or friends begin with staring and/or uncomfortable silence? Doesn't anyone have anything to say?

Too be fair, it seemed like Nicola told his mom 5 minutes before their arrival he was bringing a guest. Plus he was being a real dick & not willing to translate or engage much in the conversation. 

[Hellohappylife]

Why is Nicola so afraid of his family finding out meisha’s “past” which is basically that she’s divorced & has 2 daughters…. he speaks as if she was a porn star or something. It’s 2023, he’s in his 50s. Do they really expect him to find someone in his age group that’s been single & a virgin their whole life?

I’d be more concerned honestly about the one who’s 50+ still living with their mother.  

 

[bichonblitz]

I can not stand Violet. She will never take ownership for anything she has ever said or done wrong. Riley needs to dump her ass. How much do you have in your account bank? Fuck off. 

Um, Gino. You have to have sex and actually ejaculate to make a baby. Ain't happening. Since when is this now a big deal for him to have a baby? More important than pre-nups, cheating and fighting? Where are Jasmines kids? How old are they? Reminds me of that nutcase from Brazil Larissa that moved to America leaving her kids back in Brazil with other people and baby daddies. 

Cleo is too sensitive. It's exhausting. Stop with the damn crying. 

Statler. Ewww. Dempsey deserves so much more. 

[anoninrva]

17 minutes ago, Hellohappylife said:

Why is Nicola so afraid of his family finding out meisha’s “past” which is basically that she’s divorced & has 2 daughters…. he speaks as if she was a porn star or something. It’s 2023, he’s in his 50s. Do they really expect him to find someone in his age group that’s been single & a virgin their whole life?

I’d be more concerned honestly about the one who’s 50+ still living with their mother.  

 

If she is *divorced*, and can't get an annulment, they can't be married in the Catholic church.  That would be a pretty big deal for Nicola, so either there's something not being disclosed here, or they really can't be planning to marry.  His mom did look shocked when they announced that.

[Breedom]

13 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

I can not stand Violet. She will never take ownership for anything she has ever said or done wrong. Riley needs to dump her ass. How much do you have in your account bank? Fuck off. 

Uhhhh . . . how much does Violet have in HER bank account? I'm okay with her talking finances, but not to be brought up out of the blue. And how much does Jasmine have? Her finances are never, ever brought up. Gino couldn't possibly be supporting her 100%.

14 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Since when is this now a big deal for him to have a baby? More important than pre-nups, cheating and fighting? Where are Jasmines kids?

Seems scripted, to keep the story going. Either that or Jasmine has a deep need to keep testing Gino. Funny how her kids are never brought up. Then we have Amanda, who is fixated with letting everyone know for the umpteenth time that she is a young widow with children that suffered a tragedy. On a side note, she is a cold, brick wall who has no issue with hurting other people for her own lack of judgement. 

[lilysmom]

1 hour ago, MrBuhBye said:

“I know other people move more slowly in relationships but that’s not how I roll!  Texting, messaging,  and FaceTiming for seven months means we have a real and deep relationship and eternal love!”

She talks about adoption like she is an eight-year-old.  I was rejected before I was even born!  Um, your parents didn’t know you as a person at that point.  It most likely was they were unable to raise any child.  I get that every adopted child has some questions but if she claims it is messing up all her adult relationships get some therapy.

I felt she threw in the adoption/rejection comments because she wasn't getting anywhere with her "logical" arguments and figured she'd toss some guilt Dempsey's way. Like, so now YOU are rejecting me, too?! And it appears Dempsey fell for it.

[Drogo]

In case you missed this week's episode because Mercury was in the microwave, here's a quick visual recap! 

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SHEILA:

DAVID:

JHONREIL:

 

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DEMPSEY: 

STATLER: 

 

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ASTROLOGY PhD: 

CHRISTIAN:

CLEO: 

 

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VIOLET: 

RILEY: 

 

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GINO:

JASMINE:

 

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MEISHA: 
 

NICOLA'S FAMILY:

NICOLA: 

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First Jasmine was whining that Gino wasn’t ejaculating and now she is whining that she may get pregnant because he is ejaculating pick a lane.  
 

Didn’t they show one of Jasmine’s kids the first season that she was on?   Then she sent him away to the country to live with her mom so she could go butt plug shopping and fuck her neighbor.  Interesting she confesses next week she fucked him a month ago.  That is cheating, bye girl.  The other son supposedly lives with the father.

1 hour ago, Hellohappylife said:

he’s in his 50s

He’s 45 but just looks like shit.  

46 minutes ago, anoninrva said:

If she is *divorced*, and can't get an annulment, they can't be married in the Catholic church.  That would be a pretty big deal for Nicola, so either there's something not being disclosed here, or they really can't be planning to marry.  His mom did look shocked when they announced that.

Except I think mom and the siblings are not Catholic.  That’s why he kept stressing tradition (kept hearing that Fiddler on the Roof song) rather than religion.

Edited August 21, 2023 by MrBuhBye

[surfgirl]

2 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

Being adopted can be really fraught for some people. It does sound like Statler could use some therapy so that she can understand that her birth parents like did want her very much but placed her for adoption because they felt they could not provide for her. 

As much as I feel for her struggling with those types of issues, I just plain don't like her. She gets to the end of the conversation with Dempsey, makes out like she understands where Dempsey is coming from and everything is fine, then in her talking head says "I just hope I can change her mind and she will let me move in after all." Like that entire conversation didn't just happen. 

I felt like she used adoption as an excuse and it felt like emotional blackmail, whi h really turned me off. Thankfully, Dempsey didn't fall for it and stood her ground. Methinks Dempsey just wants to get through this visit and then break up with her once she gets back to the US. Statler needs some serious therapy.

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Dempsey should have said I understand you have issues with rejection but rushing the relationship makes it more likely to fail so you are doing the opposite of what you claim you want.

[Breedom]

41 minutes ago, lilysmom said:

I felt she threw in the adoption/rejection comments because she wasn't getting anywhere with her "logical" arguments and figured she'd toss some guilt Dempsey's way. Like, so now YOU are rejecting me, too?!

Yeah, very possible. I can't judge Statler though because I'm not adopted, but if I was put up for adoption right after birth, as an adult now I would think that my parents may have been very young and that's not really a rejection. If one was older, one might possibly go the other route depending on circumstances. I hope that she had/has a nurturing upbringing with her adoptive family. I don't remember what she said during her introduction.

[Booger666]

1 hour ago, anoninrva said:

If she is *divorced*, and can't get an annulment, they can't be married in the Catholic church.  That would be a pretty big deal for Nicola, so either there's something not being disclosed here, or they really can't be planning to marry.  His mom did look shocked when they announced that.

On an earlier episode I thought she said she applied for the divorce and felt confident about getting an annulment, it was more of a timing issue.  But, these guys make up their “scripts” as they go along so who knows what the truth is.

[Adeejay]

1 hour ago, anoninrva said:

If she is *divorced*, and can't get an annulment, they can't be married in the Catholic church.  That would be a pretty big deal for Nicola, so either there's something not being disclosed here, or they really can't be planning to marry.  His mom did look shocked when they announced that.

Let me see if I understand this.  Nicola's family will not accept Meisha because she is a divorcee with two children.  Even though he is a 46-year-old unattractive man who is unemployed and broke, they are expecting him to marry a 24-year-old virgin.  Okay.  Got it. 

Can't believe Dempsey fell for Statler's "no one has ever wanted me" bull crap.  Lots of people are adopted and go on to live happy, healthy, normal lives.  

[Drogo]

21 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

Even though he is a 46-year-old unattractive man who is unemployed and broke, they are expecting him to marry a 24-year-old virgin.

[anoninrva]

1 hour ago, Booger666 said:

On an earlier episode I thought she said she applied for the divorce and felt confident about getting an annulment, it was more of a timing issue.  But, these guys make up their “scripts” as they go along so who knows what the truth is.

That would make sense.  But if she's already pursuing annulment, they can get married (in the Church, at least), and it's just water under the bridge.  Maybe this is producer-driven drama instead of the obvious drama of him being an energy-sucking jerk.

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1 minute ago, anoninrva said:

That would make sense.  But if she's already pursuing annulment, they can get married (in the Church, at least), and it's just water under the bridge.  Maybe this is producer-driven drama instead of the obvious drama of him being an energy-sucking jerk.

For all his studying of the New Testament he doesn’t seem to treat people well.

[cynicat]

2 hours ago, Breedom said:

Uhhhh . . . how much does Violet have in HER bank account? I'm okay with her talking finances, but not to be brought up out of the blue. 

I'm no fan of either part of this couple, however I can see Violet's point.  She will be giving up her career to move to the US and as I understand it, can't work until she gets a green card.  That's pretty scary.

As for bringing it up out of the blue, I smell the stink of production manipulation.

 

[surfgirl]

2 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Can't believe Dempsey fell for Statler's "no one has ever wanted me" bull crap.

I dont think she fell for it at all. She stood her ground, she just hugged Statler and continued to say no to moving in.

[Drogo]

2 hours ago, Breedom said:

I hope that she had/has a nurturing upbringing with her adoptive family. I don't remember what she said during her introduction.

One of the only things I remember from Statler's intro was her saying that a lot of people think they have ADHD but she "REALLY has it." 

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13 minutes ago, Drogo said:

One of the only things I remember from Statler's intro was her saying that a lot of people think they have ADHD but she "REALLY has it." 

And then she took a break from remote work to play with a toy.

[Fable]

1 hour ago, surfgirl said:

I dont think she fell for it at all. She stood her ground, she just hugged Statler and continued to say no to moving in.

I'm glad Dempsey stayed firm about living together, but if she continues with this relationship, standing her ground will become a way of life for her because this wasn't just a one-off.  Statler will continue to bulldoze her at every turn when she isn't getting what she wants. If Dempsey can handle that, more power to her.  That has to be exhausting though.  Hell, I get exhausted just watching her! 

[lilysmom]

2 hours ago, surfgirl said:

I dont think she fell for it at all. She stood her ground, she just hugged Statler and continued to say no to moving in.

But then, she let her back in her bed. (Baby steps, baby steps!)

[bichonblitz]

5 hours ago, cynicat said:

I'm no fan of either part of this couple, however I can see Violet's point.  She will be giving up her career to move to the US

What is her career? I must have missed that.