Utopia (US) Live Feed Discussion

[henripootel]

As per their usual fiscally irresponsible habits, each Ute was allowed ten dollars to spend on the food trucks.  Just like that - $140 gone.

How'd they get to them?  Were the food trucks brought into the compound? I thought the Topes weren't allowed out the gate.

 

What's the over/under on Red and where he really is?  Seems to me that either production cast a dying man who should never be out of a hospital, or Red's off somewhere negotiating a salary upgrade and periodic visits from his wife.

 

And while we're talking about hospital bills - how many of the Topes have now sought medical care?  These guys are more accident prone than the Three Stooges.  So who's paying for all this?  Even the announcer guy must have choked when his first line last show was 'the Utopians are completely self-sufficent now ...'.

[RedheadZombie]

The food truck vendors were brought in.

[In Pog Form]

Josh --Hundreds of thousands of people are sick of Bri and want her gone.

Well, maybe a hundred...

It's funny that they have no idea how poorly the show is rating. They probably think they're famous now, with the whole country hanging on their every word, rather than a handful of masochistic hate-watchers.

[hincandenza]

Rob and Josh talking to Nikki on the porch, privately, the vote. They have their eyes opened about Bri. They know now that she hurts the animals. They know now that she was plotting against Bella - and Chris confirmed what they had heard. They agreed that there is a reason America voted for Bri. Yeah, Josh says, she's lazy, she hurts the animals,and she's a psycho. Say what you will about Bella, Nikki says, she never hurt anyone. Neither has Red.

...

The tide is definitely turning against Bri. I noticed earlier that very few people talk to her tonight. Taylor wants Bri gone, but he's voting for Red he says. ... He doesn't like Bri. From what he heard, she is like a receptionist in a vets office rather than working with the animals is what Taylor heard. All over the world the vets are getting a bad rep due to Bri is what Taylor was told. They are 'appalled' I think he said. Bella was shouting to someone during this convo and it was hard to hear. He doesn't think Bri has the right to attack someone the way Bri attacked Bella at the barn the other day. (That was awful, Bri was such a little creep that day - yesterday, the day before?)

An eighty pound girl out eats the men. She's a fucking robot. -- Taylor

Rob still insists Red is the problem.

Taylor - America is tired of Bri.

Josh --Hundreds of thousands of people are sick of Bri and want her gone. They laugh at how Bri was safe then two seconds later America picks her.

Nikki says she thought America picked her for laziness. She had no idea she had this malicious side. Josh says Bri told him she was involved in a kidnapping. That she told him that her friend died one night at a party and then she went back inside and continued partying. Bri apparently bragged about never doing laundry a day in her life.

This all makes me so happy, as I am a masochistic hate watcher... or forum reader. I've said before, I dont even care if this is producer manipulation, if the tides are finally turning and this means Bri will be gone next, that's a big step. Even if it's just to give the Mootopians a couple of weeks break from her before the show gets cancelled, that's something!

Rob is still a choad, though. Oof, to think I praised him once! Hex I'm still mostly positive on; she has imperfect information and thus has been too chummy to the Kool Kids Klub lately, but she still shows signs of genuine compassion and good communication skills- look how easily she got through to Red earlier on how it's important that people get a chance to try different things by comparing it to raising his son. By and large, she and Josh are to me the only two original cast members who seem redeemable. Josh is all but single-handedly carrying the non-cow related workload at the compound, and if he hadn't taken the lead on the infrastructure... *shudder*.

If they ever implemented Kristen's laughably gradeschool misunderstanding of market economics, Josh would technically become Utopia's first billionaire.

[4leafclover]

Bri to Nikki--"animals are my passion.  I would never hurt them. I'm so surprised anyone would say that."  Bri also said Bella calls her names like "f---ing bitch, and I've never called Bella names."  

 

Bri brings out my worst thoughts................................................................................................

[candall]

Supposedly Huntress Hex was wearing flip-flops when the cow stepped on her foot--which makes her an idiot--but of course the last thing before blackout involved a mad scramble to pull an eagerly nursing calf away from a thousand pound cow, so who the hell knows what really happened?

 

The 24/7 live feed was the ONLY popular element the show had left, so all this desperate, clumsy censorship will no doubt finally deal the death blow to The Great Experiment.

 

Gracious, the producers never missed a single opportunity--if there was a poor choice to be made, they jumped on it.  I'd love to see a Michael Moore documentary called "$50M: The Making Of Utopia."  I'm sure it would be hysterical.

[4leafclover]

Bri also told Nikki that she was "in there" for a long time (where?  production?) and she was told she was not America's first choice but rather, the third choice!  I hope Nikki has just an ounce of brain cells to see through this crap.

[Rahul]

I'm not a Christian, but Bri is the closest personification of the Antichrist I have ever seen.  She is practically the living incarnate.

[4leafclover]

Bri crying on Ernesto's shoulder (literally, head-on-shoulder), "I came here to heal and to learn to forgive."  Said something happened to her when she was a child, "the most horrible thing that can happen to a child."  Asks him about his religion, tells him that when she was a young child, she was flying home from Canada with her family and the plane hit turbulence.  "We were falling, falling and everything was dark."  Said then the plane stabilized and the sun came out and she looked out the window and saw "Joseph" sitting on a big, puffy cloud.  He was wearing a long robe, sandals, had long hair and needed to shave.  She realized he had reached out and saved the plane from crashing.  Another time she was in church and saw "Mary," and her robe was blowing in the wind.  She then went on to tell him that she sees dead people--her mother bought a used car when Bri was 6, it had been in a terrible accident but her mother didn't know this.  Bri saw the man who was killed in the car crash, "he looked very sad."  She has also seen a woman who was hit by a car, "she was with child." (who talks like that?) All of the dead people looked so "sad."  She and Ernesto prayed together.  This doesn't really jive with the story she told Josh earlier about her best friend dying of an overdose during a rave, and she and her other friends just went back to the rave and "partied in his honor."  She is a well rehearsed chameleon who can change to fit whomever she is with--this is one very disturbed young girl.  I hope Ernesto and Nikki don't stand in the way of voting her out, she really needs to go.

[EverCat]

I was watching the beginning of that but turned it off after a few seconds and missed Bri talking about her visions.  I guess we have her all wrong...she really is a saint.

What I did see was how after telling Ernesto she had been abused in every way a child had been,  her eyes slowly glanced sideways towards him as if she was thinking to herself "I wonder if he buys this".   It was really creepy. 

Her stories have a lot of inconsistencies.  Ernesto has been there a week and only now that her head is on the chopping block, is she interested in manipulating, I mean getting to know him.

 

 

[DeLurker]

Dear Willie (or Luis or Bri's bf),

RUN! Run like the wind!

Bri will be off our tv soon so there isn't much time. Flee the country if you have to. If you need money start a Kickstarter campaign under "Break free of Bri",

All the best -

America

[riverheightsnancy]

Well, whether through manipulation or persuasion, production is going to take this "drama" and get Bri booted.  Too little, too late IMO. I would have had way more respect if they just booted her  THE FIRST TIME for the animal abuse and just tell the cast about it and bring in the new. All the other things, the stealing food and stuff, how to make money, the "experience", the failing gardens, winter coming, let that play out as part of the "drama".  Even though we are getting the same end result, it has turned off those viewers who do not follow BB and thought that this would be like a year long Survivor without challenges. I really had high hopes for this show.  It really is a shame. I really wanted to see what it would be like to try to build a society.  Obviously, a clusterf***

[ProfCrash]

I get the very real feeling that the Production staff won't let the Utopians screw this up. More likely then not the numbnuts will be brought into Production and told that the show is likely to end if Bri stays. If they want their weekly stipend to continue, they have to vote Bri out. I suspect that Production has a list of who is going to go with each vote based on the feedback that they are getting from the public. So I suspect we will see Bri this time and Aaron next time. Hopefully, Rob DOR's because there is no way Red is going to go any time soon since America, well the few people watching the feeds and calling PETA and Animal Welfare on a regular basis, will flip if Red goes any where.

[riverheightsnancy]

I wish we knew more about what is going on with Red. In other words, is this legit or some type of producer driven game/manipulation? 

[OakGoblinFly]

Well they decided Josh was right about not 'ordering' but Hex heard that Josh said he 'ordered' the things. Hex is laughing but furious. Josh is just disgusted. Josh says he made an executive decision to get a 'price order' not an 'order'.  Hex feels like that's shifty speech. Anyway, the group broke up. The guy from the place is calling Chris back with a price list and then the group will vote on what they actually get versus what Josh priced.  

 

This group of people is so at odds with each other.  They are hard to watch. 

 

 

Wait, the group is all over Josh for getting a priced quote yet they don't want to say anything about Aaron and Kristen stealing food/money.  What is wrong with these people?

ITA.  I have this fear that even if Bri is one of the names put up for possible elimination, the topes will choose to eliminate Josh or Red instead.  I'd rather they had to deal with what the voters decide.  We can be like an act of God - except instead of a disaster killing one of them unexpectedly, voters take one person out and the topes have no control over who it is.  (Or even when it's going to happen, if we really got that kind of control.)

 

 

I fear for the animals if Red is eliminated.

[Whimsy]

I voted for Bri again.  My biggest fear is that they are just going to let her out loose in the world.  She needs serious help and most likely institutionalization.

 

I don't have a lot that I have to focus closely on today at work, so I think I'm going to have the live feed (I only have access to camera 1 and 2, there's no way I'm shelling money out for this) running in the background most of the day.  I'll let you know if anything interesting happens.  I missed all the excitement yesterday!  I had to shut it off for a little bit yesterday because camera 1 and 2 were all blurry and it was giving me a headache.

[OakGoblinFly]

About half-hour ago, the utopians posted a tweet asking, "If you can change one thing about what we do here, what would you suggest?"   If anyone's interested in some of the answers they've been getting, you can see them here:  https://twitter.com/UtopiaPioneer/status/515618127187804160

 

 

Will they get to see the actual Tweets or will Fox censor them?

[Rahul]

I voted for Bri again.  My biggest fear is that they are just going to let her out loose in the world.  She needs serious help and most likely institutionalization.

 

I'm actually concerned that Bri will go after the families of those Utopians who voted her out if she can't seek vengeance on those individuals themselves (for the time being). She seems unhinged enough to do just that.

Edited September 29, 2014 by Rahul

[Whimsy]

I just had to shut off the feed.  Because I do only have camera 1 and 2 all I could hear was some male person peeing and farting.  If I want to hear that I can go home and listen to my husband.

[whack-a-mole]

And while we're talking about hospital bills - how many of the Topes have now sought medical care?  These guys are more accident prone than the Three Stooges.  So who's paying for all this?  Even the announcer guy must have choked when his first line last show was 'the Utopians are completely self-sufficent now ...'.

Technically they work for production and all their idiotic accidents happened in their workplace, so their medical care should fall under workman's compensation. They'll have a lot of paperwork, but it should all be covered. I feel sorry for whatever insurer took on this mess of a production. Hopefully they realized the potential and charged them something insane.

 

So glad to find out Bri's deeds are spreading and the tide is turning. Please don't let her highly variable tales of woe and pretty crying make anybody feel sorry for her. She abuses the animals. Even the Utopians can't think bad childhood makes it okay to keep her around to do more of it.

 

It does seem like producer shenanigans to me. I would have greatly preferred they just pull her instead of making this into an elimination storyline. The animals have had to suffer extra days of her "care" while we wait for the drama to play out. 

[DeLurker]

Perhaps it is best if Bri stays - I'd fear for the people and animals that would have the misfortune to encounter her accidentally in everyday life.  She's despicable and undoubtably has serious underlying mental health issues, but I don't think there is an easy answer to those problems.  In Utopia, there's a limited number of people she can hurt and she's under constant surveillance.  Free the chicktopians and the mootopians though.  And Bella should be removed for her own well being.

 

The rest of the Topes who are buying into her Poor Wittle Bri act can fend for themselves.  Many of them haven't shown a lot of redeeming characteristics so if this turns into the Donner Party I bet ratings would go up.  Let's face it - this stopped being "entertainment" after the first episode.

 

I've been trying to compile a list of positive characteristics for the Topes because I keep telling myself that there has to be some in everyone.  I'm coming up short on most of them because they either say or do something that contradicts what small points I might give them.  So far...

Josh - despite initial douchery of the highest level, he's been consistently a hard worker and his efforts are not for pure personal gain;

Red - again, a rough start with our boy Red plus chronic use of "I's quitting" ploy, he's been great with the animals and has had some pretty gentle interactions with Bella;

Hex - She's been surprisingly respectful and diplomatic at times (not all times).  Not sure how I feel about her hate-on for Josh.  He has been very well behaved since those first days, but if his actions were directed at me, I may have a hard time getting over it too.

Nikki - While she hasn't been the most productive Tope, she hasn't been the least either.  She seems open minded which is good, but she also seems gullable which isn't.  I don't recall her really being negative towards anyone other than Aaron, so please correct me if I am misrembering.

 

and then as I go down the list of Topes I hear crickets...lots and lots of crickets.

Edited September 29, 2014 by DeLurker

[MissMel]

Taylor was just talking to Kristen and said, "In my opinion, Bri might be leaving sooner than the next vote...". Then, of course, the audio cut off. When it picks back up, Taylor is saying Rob has threatened to leave if Red stays.

Kristen is milking Betsy. Taylor could be heard talking to Honey. Bri and someone else(Hex?) just stumbled up to the milking area. And then audio cut out and the camera blurred. Bri just stood there initially but she walking in the direction of Kristen and Betsy. How are the vets keeping an eye on the cows if the feed keeps getting cut?

[Whimsy]

I missed the conversation about Bri leaving earlier.  I have been listening but I am working so I miss some dialogue. 

 

Here's what I have so far.

 

5:00am- Rob and Josh quietly get ready for barn work in the kitchen. 

 

5:30am- Rob and Josh cleaning the barn.  Josh just said to Rob “we have another month safe, unless you do something stupid to get kicked off”.  I think he meant that as a universal “you” not directly to Rob “you”.  But, I thought at first that’s what he was saying and it was funny.

 

Josh announced the chickens laid 13 eggs!  They are so much happier!  Yay!  (the chickens- I don’t care about the Utopians).

 

6:00-6:30am- I stepped away to chat with a co-worker.

 

6:30am- Taylor comes to the barn and checks in with Rob about what’s been done. Rob goes back to bed.  Taylor checks on Hex.  I gather from what he’s saying she has a pee bucket in her tent so she doesn’t have to walk to the bathroom.  Gross.  He then goes over and talks to the calf (I also refuse to call her Cash). 

 

Kristen’s up.  They have a kind of humorous conversation about book smarts vs common sense.  Hilariously (and not for the reasons they think) they are saying that Bri is book smart but not common sense smart.  I think it’s hilarious because Bri is NEITHER!

 

Then they talk about Bella.  Taylor says that Bella’s “done it to herself” but then the Utopians “did it to Bella”.  I think they mean driving her to craziness.  The sound cuts in and out.

 

Taylor explains what happened with Hex.  He confirmed that it was during the time that they were trying to get the baby away from Betsy that Hex got stepped on.  Taylor said he was scared because Betsy was getting really agitated (my words, not his) and smashed her head into Taylor.  Hex grabbed Betsy.  And then my screen froze and I lost sound.  This is frustrating!  I lost sound for about 5 mins. 

 

When I got it back they were talking about Red and how crazy he is.  Taylor is starting to sound like a freaking genius.  He says that Red needs to learn how to express his opinion without getting mad.  That he would be heard more if he wasn’t always getting angry.  I am paraphrasing a lot because I am actually doing a little work and I’m getting the gist of the conversation without remembering the EXACT words said.

 

I ran down to get something to eat after the cameras blurred and when I came back to hear Bella say that someone ("he") is wrong about the animals.  Not sure who's she's talking about. 

 

Aaaand- Taylor is an idiot again.  He doesn’t know what “monogamy” means.  Hex had to give him the definition of the word.

[MissMel]

I'm just watching the free feeds, as well. Both cameras are focused on a grassy area with no sound. The last image I saw was Taylor trying to get one of the cows to stand up. The cameras blurred and then focused on the grassy area. (Mike ran through the area a couple of times to empty the buckets he was carrying. No movement since.)

[Whimsy]

Yeah, MissMel, I left when the cameras stayed on the field.  I'll check back in later.

[OakGoblinFly]

 @hippykid @mz_gael We have production people on site during Utopia Experience to intercede if improper conversations begin

 

 

What's considered "improper"?  Apparently NOT Kristen smack talking her fellow inmates to a "civilian".

With less than a full complement of Pioneer Inmates, anything anyone says is just going to be twisted to suit the needs of the current person talking.

 

 

Didn't the vets try this already?  I remember them telling the inmates what they should and should not be doing regarding care of the animals (Hex even took notes) --- sadly the only person who seems to have retained the knowledge is Red.

[candall]

So Hex is there and she's fine?  It's unlikely a cow mashed down on her flip-flopped foot a few hours ago.  Something else must have happened besides what they posted in their official update.

[whack-a-mole]

What's considered "improper"?  Apparently NOT Kristen smack talking her fellow inmates to a "civilian".

The Utopians can say anything they want. It's the people visiting who're given a whole set of instructions to not tell them anything they know about the feeds/show/outside world. At least that's what I remember from a blog post somebody who went wrote. 

 

The Hex thing sounds fishy. Cows are heavy.

[OakGoblinFly]

Rob and Josh talking to Nikki on the porch, privately, the vote. They have their eyes opened about Bri. They know now that she hurts the animals.  They know now that she was plotting against Bella - and Chris confirmed what they had heard. They agreed that there is a reason America voted for Bri. Yeah, Josh says, she's lazy, she hurts the animals,and she's a psycho.  Say what you will about Bella, Nikki says, she never hurt anyone. Neither has Red. 

 

What chaos in the barn?  Red is the one who is working there and making sure that things get done - properly.  I don't get Rob's beef with Red - yes, Red does have his tantrums and he did steal the money.  However, when given proper food, space, and a little respect Red has proven himself to be a decent person and a damn hard worker.

 

I agree with Nikki, Bella is a nutter and exhausting to deal with - however she wouldn't intentionally hurt anyone.  She's a frail person and probably shouldn't be there (especially with the bullying) but she shouldn't be voted out before Bri, Aaron, Kristen, or Mike.  

 

And as an aside, Bella looked so painfully thin on Friday's broadcast ........ someone please step up and say something about the lack of food she - she's withering away (not that she had any extra weight to begin with). 

[ottoDbusdriver]

I'd believe that Red has been off-site for medical attention for an infected finger -- if at any point before his evacuation he actually complained about a cut on his hand that hurt or even had a bandage on it.

 

Though 24 hours is more than enough time to fly his wife out from Kentucky for some sexy time.

[MissMel]

Camera 2 is showing about 8 deer grazing right now. Bella just noticed them.

Hex just told Taylor her foot is not fractured and she asked if they were looking at the correct x-ray. I'm fairly certain I saw both cows standing, as well. Everyone is back in the people barn now.

[MissMel]

I'd believe that Red has been off-site for medical attention for an infected finger -- if at any point before his evacuation he actually complained about a cut on his hand that hurt or even had a bandage on it.

 

Though 24 hours is more than enough time to fly his wife out from Kentucky for some sexy time.

I think Red did point out an infected spot on his hand/finger. I think he was talking to Hex. I want to say it was dusk or dawn judging by the amount of sunlight.

Bella and Bri are discussing why Bella voted for her. Bella just said Red is the one not doing the work in the barn. Ugh. Bri just said she doesn't like how Red handles the cows. Ick.

[OakGoblinFly]

Taylor was just talking to Kristen and said, "In my opinion, Bri might be leaving sooner than the next vote...". Then, of course, the audio cut off. When it picks back up, Taylor is saying Rob has threatened to leave if Red stays.

 

 

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

[riverheightsnancy]

Yeah, an infection can be serious if it goes on long enough and becomes systemic, so maybe it was bad? That is why the cow should be looked at too for the infected teat.  But Hex getting her pinky toe (I don't know if that is true, just saying) stepped on requires immediate medical RESCUE 911! intervention.  

 

Oh, if they do not keep the deer out, they will have nothing left to eat. I am in NJ and we have had a lot of dry this year and a serious overpopulation of deer. The deer (because of their large livers-they can process more plant life that might be toxic or that they normally won't eat), but if they are hungry, they will EAT IT ALL (sort of like Bri). I cannot keep Hydrangeas, Sedum, tulips, arborvitae, mums. They deer were so hungry last winter they ate ALL of our English Ivy groundcover. I seriously couldn't believe it. Plus they jump our 4 foot fence like nothing. 

[candall]

I just looked at Joker.  Notes from there say that Hex has a swollen foot, Red has an infected finger (right--gone two days?) and there's a bit of discussion about Aaron putting beef bullion cubes in the vegetarian dishes:  moron or saboteur?

 

One of the Joker people visited Utopia and posted a five part report--mostly about how much he liked the people he already liked from watching the feed, so it was semi-interesting, but no expose', except that flies are swarming all over the cows and in the kitchen.  He didn't talk to Bri or Aaron, notes that Taylor is "no Ben Stein."  Hee.

 

If the link doesn't work, it's in the Joker site under "In Depth."

http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=UtopiaInDepth

Edited September 29, 2014 by candall

[Whimsy]

Hahahahaha.  This is what Bella says to Bri during her torturously long pep talk:

 

"I've seen a lot of growth in you in the past four days.  I've seen a lot of growth in you in the past day.  I've seen a lot of growth in you just today".  I wasn't sure if Bella kept changing her mind as to when this growth supposedly happened or if she is just completely blind to Bri and thought there was "growth" (getting sick of typing that word) continuously over the past four days that she is seeing. 

 

Bella also can't seem to get that Chris and Bri "broke up". 

 

Oh, and Bella thinks that Bri (and Hex) is going to be able to sell hundreds of thousands of whatever it is that they make (Hex makes jewelry, I don't know what Bri is going to make.  Something with "cute sayings") and be super successful.  These people are so delusional!!

[whack-a-mole]

I can sort of see thinking the swollen foot was much worse and hauling her right off. I'm just not sure how that's all she got from being stepped on by a cow while wearing flip flops. The two days for a finger thing also makes little sense, but we don't know how much of that was spent on medical attention versus desperately trying to convince Red to go back.

 

Aaron was probably just being a moron. I've seen people not understand that those things weren't just flavored cubes and not actual meat product. He's shown so little knowledge of food and cooking, I'm going to give him incompetence on this one. Now, all the scamming, stealing, poorly sized portions and sneaking his own special food into orders is still all on him. He's a selfish jerk who should not be trusted, but I don't think he knows anything about food.

 

ETA: I'm just laughing about the deer. I hope somebody tells them, and they take it very seriously for once. Watching them run around flailing to try to scare off deer could be funny.

Edited September 29, 2014 by whack-a-mole

[DeLurker]

 

"I've seen a lot of growth in you in the past four days.  I've seen a lot of growth in you in the past day.  I've seen a lot of growth in you just today".

Bella must have a lisp so s's come out as th's.

 

I remember this from my several stints in speech therapy Bella, so say it with me:  Sammy snake slithers silently.

[ProfCrash]

I had an infection that caused my groin area to go from a little swelling, think half a pinky finger to covering about the size of two hands in the course of 8 hours. I went to the emergency room and the Doctor said it was good that I did because at that rate the infection would have ended up in the blood stream and life would have been bad. He was talking about IV antibiotics as it was and decided to try regular antibiotics but I had to go see my Doctor in two days no matter what.

 

I only waited because it was a Sunday and I was planning on calling my Doctor for an emergency appointment on Monday. The rate of spread meant I didn't wait until Monday. The ER Doc warned that it might continue to spread for the first 24 hours on the antibiotics (it did, the swelling reduced but the rash doubled in size). By the time I went to my Dr on Tuesday the rash was almost back to the size it was when I first went to the ER and the swelling was totally gone.

 

That was in a clean environment, with no identifiable wound and or entry point (still don't know how it happened. The guess is that something got in when I was shaving)

 

Whatever Red did to his finger, I am sure that they were worried about the unsanitary conditions these folks chose to live in causing whatever smallish infection to spread. They probably waited to make sure that the antibiotics had 48 hours to fully work into his system in order to prevent it from getting much worse. I can understand that.

[4leafclover]

Bri telling Bella that Chris convinced her to vote for Bella, that she really wanted to vote for Red.  Per Bri, Red doesn't work in the barn, SHE does, SHE knows how to take care of the animals--Red "forces" the animals and she handles them with love and compassion.  Bri said she has made more money for the group than Bella has, and she has many business plans including "message in a bottle, bri-chinos and ceramics."  Bri also thinks she has sold more art than Bella.  This little love fest ended with Bella and Bri agreeing to vote Red out and then they hugged and became BFFs.  

[candall]

It's odd that their most polarizing character has just **poof** disappeared and everyone's toeing the somewhat questionable "infected finger" line.  Conjugal visit, maybe.  (I'm thinking back to Pastor Jon's finger situation, which was thoroughly documented.)

 

Whack-a-mole, you think better of people than I.  Secretly seeding the vegetarian dishes with animal protein sounds exactly like a deliberate Aaron move to me.

 

About the flies:  I've seen neglected farm animals who needed a dusting of fly-off and didn't get it.  Horrible. The animals shake themselves and swish their tails until finally they're overwhelmed and they give up.  (I won't go into detail about when the flies take over.)  Whether these people are too fucking lazy to do it or they're debating the expense, this is right at the top of the animal mistreatment list and it's not something that will show up clearly on the feeds.  Unless someone has spotted this situation being corrected, it's time to reload the animal protection cannons.

Edited September 29, 2014 by candall

[whack-a-mole]

It's odd that their most polarizing character has just **poof** disappeared and everyone's toeing the somewhat questionable "infected finger" line.  Conjugal visit, maybe.  (I'm thinking back to Pastor Jon's finger situation, which was thoroughly documented.)

Whatever happened with the finger, they were not very clear about it. For a show that's supposed to be so transparent, they're hiding a lot of details. Why's it okay to show them having sex, but updates on a finger infection sustained while there can't be given? Or even a clear explanation of where he was for hours?  It's weird.

Whack-a-mole, you think better of people than I.  Secretly seeding the vegetarian dishes with animal protein sounds exactly like a deliberate Aaron move to me.

Oh, I think he would deliberately do something like that to any of the dietary issues.  I've just seen this particular error too many times. "You mean they put real meat in those? I thought they were artificially flavored! The real stuff comes in cans." Then I facepalm. I've had that conversation so many times. So I'll allow incompetence as a likely option here. Seeing as he's supposedly a chef, that's just as damming a conclusion.

Edited September 29, 2014 by whack-a-mole

[MissMel]

Taylor just called the vet. He left a message. Bri and Bella were about to paint but Bri needs a nap. (this was their BFF plan for today)

I hope someone has better audio than I do because it's really hard for me to make out some conversations when everyone is talking amongst themselves. Someone, possibly Kristen but I'm not sure, was telling a man "if that's out there, I have to leave because it's not true." The man says "but you did say it. It's out there and recorded verbatim somewhere". She says "then I have to leave. I can't have that out there because its not true and I don't remember saying it". The man says "you did say it, Rob told me you said it and a man from yesterday told me he heard it, verbatim, too". Audio cut out. This happened as breakfast was being cleaned up and everyone was discussing what tasks to get started. There were many different conversations happening at once. There was also talk about a bucket full of dead fish and maggots a visitor spotted during this time.

Edited September 29, 2014 by MissMel

[henripootel]

Technically they work for production and all their idiotic accidents happened in their workplace,

Oh, I know who's paying for this, obviously.  I just think the conceit that these guys are self-sufficient (or ever were, or could be) grows ever more pathetic.  Surely by now the amount of money spent to keep these yahoos 'self-sufficent' outweighs their 5 gs by an order of magnitude.

 

I know, I know - 'reality' tv.  But I'll give shows like Big Brother and The Amazing Race their due; they don't make me pretend that this is all happening for any other reason than that the producers set it up just so.  Embrace the artificiality of the situation and just go with it, I say.

Edited September 29, 2014 by henripootel

[Whimsy]

There was a conversation happening that I came in late to and then they cut away in the middle of.  There were only voices.  I THINK it was between Kristen and Josh and the female was saying something about having to leave because of something she (says she didn't) say that if it got out would be bad and it can't "be out there" and she was going to have to leave immediately.  Does anyone know what that was?  Was it about embezzling?  That was just about the only really interesting thing to happen all day (unlike right now watching those stupid men exercise). 

 

ETA:  MissMel and I were posting at the same time.

[4leafclover]

The conversation in the background was between Josh and Kristen--he confronted her on saying they hooked up during sequester.  Kristen denied saying that, "unless I was angry."  Josh said that both Rob and a visitor yesterday told him she said that.  Kristen said, "well, if that's out there, then I have to leave because its not true.  I'll have to go home."  Then the audio switched to another conversation.  

[Whimsy]

Oh.  Much less dramatic or interesting than I thought.  That's a stupid reason to have to go home over.  Just deny, deny, deny!!

[whack-a-mole]

If she leaves over it, they'll definitely play the clip over and over.  If she treats it as nothing, chances are that doesn't even make the edit. They don't like talking about logistical things like the sequestering on the show.

[ProfCrash]

I am cool with Kristen leaving over something like that. Very cool with it. Anything to weed out the assholes.

 

Hex, Josh, Nikki, Amanda, Ernesto all seem to be people I can stand to watch regularly. They have had their screw ups, especially Hex and Josh, but they seem like good people who work hard.

 

Taylor, Rob, Red, Bella, Dede are people I am fine with staying. They have are not my favorite and have moments that are flat out awful but they do not seem to be mean spirited and are just a bit out there.

 

Aaron, Kristen, Bri, Mike can all leave right now and I would be very happy. They are intentionally hurting people and/or animals and are manipulative people. I don't like what they are doing or what they represent.

 

I am really not sure about Chris. Maybe I would put him in the middle category but he seems to be an enabler and that is bad with the last four on the list.

[photo fox]

So did they hookup and she's denying that, or did they not hookup, but she said they did, and that's what Josh is objecting to?  These people.

 

So Hex is there and she's fine?  It's unlikely a cow mashed down on her flip-flopped foot a few hours ago.  Something else must have happened besides what they posted in their official update.

 

Well, there's stepped on and there's stepped on.  I've been stepped on dozens of times, and aside from once or twice when I did RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation), it's always just been a swear roundly and walk it off situation.

 

Red, on the other hand, I call shenanigans.  Remember back when he said something on the feeds about having a "deal" with Production?

I am really not sure about Chris. Maybe I would put him in the middle category but he seems to be an enabler and that is bad with the last four on the list.

 

I was horrified by the incident where Chris picked Bri up and without her prior permission flashed her genitals at the camera and some of the cast members.  She's a reprehensible person, but I think she's clearly damaged, and Chris taking advantage of her that way is so disgusting to me.