David & Sheila

[greekmom]

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David (42, Nebraska) is a kind-hearted, hardworking man who was born completely deaf. Connecting with people in a hearing world can be a struggle. While his last relationship ended after he was cheated on, he then met Sheila (31, Philippines) online two years ago. They’ve only communicated via text because while also hearing impaired, Sheila knows very limited sign language. His family and friends have concerns, but David’s sure Sheila’s the one and is heading to Philippines.

 

[SunnyBeBe]

So, who died in Sheila’s family?  

[Texasmom1970]

Seeing how they live really does make you realize all we have and don’t think twice about!

[Scarlett45]

19 hours ago, Texasmom1970 said:

Seeing how they live really does make you realize all we have and don’t think twice about!

Yes. Sheila and her family are living in poverty. David isn’t a high earner by any means, but his life is luxurious compared to theirs. 

[Stuckathome]

Any intel on these two since filming ended? This is one couple I keep hoping I will read reports of her being in the US already.....

[CrazyInAlabama]

I'm hoping that since there are no updates to their story, that they're still together.  With the rules for filming, and talking about current dating/marriage status for the production company, I hope that lack of news means they're together, and she's coming her with her son.     I don't know how much the Covid backlog affected processing for visas either.  

[CrazyInAlabama]

I guess David doesn't realize that compared to the way Sheila and her family live, David is rich.    Anyone with indoor plumbing, a decently built home, and good medical care is rich compared to Sheila and her family. 

I hate that they're dragging the Tyray and catfish storyline out.  I'm really wondering if he's really believing what he says, or if he's just acting?  I hope he's just acting.  

[Quof]

7 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

good medical care is rich compared to Sheila and her family. 

The Philippines has universal health care.  

Edited August 7, 2023 by Quof

[Raja]

2 hours ago, Quof said:

The Philippines has universal health care.  

There is a difference between overburdened last resort public facilities and "good"

[CrazyInAlabama]

There are still issues with full access, just as with other places where they may have universal care, but access and availability can still be an issue.     I hope Sheila and her son go to the doctor regularly, but I'm guessing the parents didn't and still don't.   

I see no reason to build a house in the Philippines, spend the money getting Shiela and her son to the U.S.    The father will be far down the list for coming to the U.S., and I doubt his health will last that long.   I hope it's not like Brandon and Mary where Brandon paid for the house, and it looks like a bunch of her family are living there. 

Compared to Sheila and her parents, David is rich.    I really hope they work out.   

Edited August 7, 2023 by CrazyInAlabama

[Stuckathome]

7 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I really hope they work out.   

Same. From the previews, it sounds like she is asking if David can build her and her family a new house. Which, honestly even if it doesn't cost what would be considered expensive here to construct a whole damn house, he very well may not be able to afford it. He works multiple low paying jobs and I am sure this trip is not cheap. I doubt he has an extra $15,000-$30,000 laying around. The money he sent her previously was used to patch up damage from the typhoon and it still was abysmal. 

[Gobi]

12 minutes ago, Stuckathome said:

Same. From the previews, it sounds like she is asking if David can build her and her family a new house. Which, honestly even if it doesn't cost what would be considered expensive here to construct a whole damn house, he very well may not be able to afford it. He works multiple low paying jobs and I am sure this trip is not cheap. I doubt he has an extra $15,000-$30,000 laying around. The money he sent her previously was used to patch up damage from the typhoon and it still was abysmal. 

The money would be much better spent bringing Sheila and her son to the US.

[Scarlett45]

2 minutes ago, Gobi said:

The money would be much better spent bringing Sheila and her son to the US.

I can agree, BUT her father (as well as she and her son) need to live somewhere in the meantime. It could be another two years before David could book a ticket for them to come (David not only has to handle the paperwork/fees but pay for two tickets).
 

 I wonder if she has siblings (or other extended family) that have room for them until the k-1 process is completed. They may be able to care for the father once Sheila gets here and gets work authorization (and is able to send money home). 

I also understand how after her mother’s tragic death she doesn’t want to be there any more. 

[1011101010001]

Re David, there is a deaf guy on the new season of Big Brother who can read lips and because he took 14 years of speech therapy speaks without any noticeable accent.  It’s interesting the different outcomes depending on the choices their parents made etc.

3 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

Same. From the previews, it sounds like she is asking if David can build her and her family a new house. Which, honestly even if it doesn't cost what would be considered expensive here to construct a whole damn house, he very well may not be able to afford it. He works multiple low paying jobs and I am sure this trip is not cheap. I doubt he has an extra $15,000-$30,000 laying around. The money he sent her previously was used to patch up damage from the typhoon and it still was abysmal. 

Yeah I think on The Other Way Brandan spent $60k rebuilding Mary’s house after a typhoon.  I doubt David can spare more than $5k or $10k a year after his own living expenses.

3 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

I am sure this trip is not cheap

I can’t remember if production pays for these trips but I bet they do.

[seacliffsal]

On 8/7/2023 at 5:50 AM, Quof said:

The Philippines has universal health care.  

Having universal health care is not necessarily the same as having a good health care system.  I lived and worked in a country with universal health care and it left something to be desired.

[Shrek]

24 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

Having universal health care is not necessarily the same as having a good health care system.  I lived and worked in a country with universal health care and it left something to be desired.

There's good & bad in all heath care systems but at least she wouldn't have the added worry of having to pay for it as well as recovering, if she is close to any sort of health care of course.

[Raja]

18 hours ago, Texasmom1970 said:

Me watching the show wondering why with the money Brandan sent for the house there is no roof that keeps bugs out better. 
 

I know it’s not the U.S. so I guess it’s just the way they build or they ran out of money?

I haven't seen the Other Way show but it is a tropical island. The only way that you're keeping bugs and the lizards  hunting them out is to run air conditioning 24/7. Most places have fairly regular brown outs and even without them few can afford that much of an electricity bill 

[CrazyInAlabama]

I really hope David, Sheila and the little boy come back to the U.S. and make a happy family.   David probably makes over $30k, and that's the income he'll need to sponsor Sheila and the little boy.       The father is never going to come to the U.S, it's a multiyear process, and David would have to sponsor him too.   

I think Sharp should step up for once, and pay to fix the father's house, and pay the transportation fees, for David, Sheila, and the little boy.   Paying the processing fees would be a good thing to do too.    I hope that the three get another season on 90 Day, then Pillow Talk, or other shows, so I can see them grow together as a family, and as another source of income. 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by CrazyInAlabama

[Fable]

51 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I think Sharp should step up for once, and pay to fix the father's house, and pay the transportation fees, for David, Sheila, and the little boy.   Paying the processing fees would be a good thing to do too.    I hope that the three get another season on 90 Day, then Pillow Talk, or other shows, so I can see them grow together as a family, and as another source of income.

I would like to see this happen too, although not particularly Pillow Talk as that would be rather hard to follow in ASL.  

[Auntie Anxiety]

20 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I think Sharp should step up for once, and pay to fix the father's house, and pay the transportation fees, for David, Sheila, and the little boy.   Paying the processing fees would be a good thing to do too. 

If I were to guess, I’d say there is not a chance in hell that Sharp would do anything of the sort. Sharp is interested only in the bottom line.

[Raja]

On 8/26/2023 at 5:03 PM, CrazyInAlabama said:

I think Sharp should step up for once, and pay to fix the father's house, and pay the transportation fees, for David, Sheila, and the little boy.   Paying the processing fees would be a good thing to do too.    I hope that the three get another season on 90 Day, then Pillow Talk, or other shows, so I can see them grow together as a family, and as another source of income.

The harder they have it the more drama which they hope translates into ratings the show has. Besides every other couple in the future will have their hands out asking for the David/Sheila deal to allow the filming 

Edited August 31, 2023 by Raja

[Raja]

On 8/26/2023 at 5:03 PM, CrazyInAlabama said:

The father is never going to come to the U.S, it's a multiyear process, and David would have to sponsor him too.   

I think technically it would be after Sheila receives citizenship and then she would be the petitioner. Given the stated income level of David I would guess we would have a dual income couple by the time that could happen. 

[Tuneful]

On 8/26/2023 at 8:03 PM, CrazyInAlabama said:

I really hope David, Sheila and the little boy come back to the U.S. and make a happy family. 

 

I agree. I find it odd though to be letting a 12-year-old decide whether he will come to the U.S. My family moved a number of times before I was 13, and we were told about our moves, not asked. We had to go with our parents. Her son has just Sheila and his grandpa, I think, and anyone can see that grandpa is in poor  health and living in a disastrous structure. Do they have senior group homes there? Apply to have the kid come to the U.S., he has no other parent.   

Edited September 6, 2023 by Tuneful

[Raja]

1 hour ago, Tuneful said:

I agree. I find it odd though to be letting a 12-year-old decide whether he will come to the U.S. My family moved a number of times when I was young (under 21), and we were told about our moves, not asked. We had to go with our parents. Her son has just Sheila and his grandpa, I think, and anyone can see that grandpa is in poor  health and living in a disastrous structure. Do they have senior group homes there? Apply to have the kid come to the U.S., he has no other parent.   

Family dynamics in the modern era demands we ask kids, not that the mother would not override the child's wishes in the end.  But then the father's family can also emerge to throw a monkey wrench into things as few have formal court approved custody agreements. But given their general state you would think all parties would want the son to head towards the states in this scenario.

There are a few last resort governmental resources and some churches and other NGOs for destitute senior housing but nothing that can be depended upon as there are many squatters/homeless in the cities

[CrazyInAlabama]

People asked what David's jobs are, In Touch Weekly answered:

David currently enjoys a “simple life” in Omaha, Nebraska. “I work at a grocery store stocking shelves,” David shared during his debut on season 6 of 90 Day Fiancé: Before the 90 Days in June 2023. “And also at a casino cleaning. I like to work there because it’s interesting seeing all the people having a good time until they lose money.” 

His name is David Dangerfield, I wonder if he is related to the late Rodney?  

I really hope David and Sheila make it. 

[surfgirl]

Has anyone else noticed that when David talks via signing, the translation usually sounds like he is speaking English as a second language? Like his sentences are very weirdly constructed broken English. He is the first American deaf person I've ever seen that signs like he barely understands basic English. I wonder what that's all about? Did he never have proper ASL training and maybe he taught himself? I'm just thinking aloud here because I find it a bit weird.

Edited October 8, 2023 by surfgirl

[Elizzikra]

17 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Has anyone else noticed that when David talks via signing, the translation usually sounds like he is speaking English as a second language? Like his sentences are very weirdly constructed broken English. He is the first American deaf person I've ever seen that signs like he barely understands basic English. I wonder what that's all about? Did he never have proper ASL training and maybe he taught himself? I'm just thinking aloud here because I find it a bit weird.

He learned to sign when he was in a boarding school for deaf children. I believe he was there from age 10 through high school graduation so he isn’t self taught.

My understanding is that sign language is its own language; not based on English. I think that David finger spells a lot because Sheila doesn’t have a large sign language vocabulary but knows the alphabet. I don’t know much about sign language but I’ve always been impressed by David and Sheila’s ability to communicate.

[greekmom]

3 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

He learned to sign when he was in a boarding school for deaf children. I believe he was there from age 10 through high school graduation so he isn’t self taught.

My understanding is that sign language is its own language; not based on English. I think that David finger spells a lot because Sheila doesn’t have a large sign language vocabulary but knows the alphabet. I don’t know much about sign language but I’ve always been impressed by David and Sheila’s ability to communicate.

Yeah i remember hearing something that the grammer isnt the same as English and that hearing impaired kids have trouble with writing English.

[Scarlett45]

21 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Has anyone else noticed that when David talks via signing, the translation usually sounds like he is speaking English as a second language? Like his sentences are very weirdly constructed broken English. He is the first American deaf person I've ever seen that signs like he barely understands basic English. I wonder what that's all about? Did he never have proper ASL training and maybe he taught himself? I'm just thinking aloud here because I find it a bit weird.

That’s because ASL is a distinct language of its own, so a direct translation wouldn’t match the grammar rules of English. 

 

3 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

My understanding is that sign language is its own language; not based on English.

Yes. 

 

42 minutes ago, greekmom said:

Yeah i remember hearing something that the grammer isnt the same as English and that hearing impaired kids have trouble with writing English.

Yes, just because a deaf or hard of hearing person is fluent in ASL doesn’t mean they can write in fluent English, or write as someone does for whom English is a first language. 

[surfgirl]

2 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

Yes, just because a deaf or hard of hearing person is fluent in ASL doesn’t mean they can write in fluent English, or write as someone does for whom English is a first language. 

Thanks toall who replies to my comment. I didn't realize that ASL doesn't translate directly into grammatically correct English.

[Kath94]

There is a method of signing called SEE sign - Signing Exact English.  This method includes prefixes & suffixes that we use in English and all of the articles, etc.  This is sometimes taught to hearing impaired students when teaching them English, but it's correct that ASL has its own grammar and word order.

[Frozendiva]

 

That is a lot of money to ask of fans.

 

 

[Raja]

Go big or go home 

[Frozendiva]

Owning a house comes with taxes, monthly bill payments, yard work, paying for repairs, etc. Plus food and clothing and everything else.

[Raja]

Burt Bacharach wrote, Dionne Warwick and a generation later Luther Vandross sang about the differences between a house and a home

[1011101010001]

Maybe if he can’t afford to bring her over he could find someone here.  Just saying.

[Scarlett45]

I have opinions about Go Fund Me, but isn’t David making money from the show? They are one of the most interesting couples- I think TLC would be glad to have them back for ratings.

Sheila’s mother’s passing was tragic (I felt terribly for all of them) but what does that have to do with David being able to support Sheila and her son in the USA?

 

I do think Sheila had a perception that David was wealthy, or at least more financially comfortable than he was (probably because of stereotypes about the USA). I don’t think David is in danger of not making his rent next month (when you’re single you can live well on little money compared to if you’re supporting others), but he doesn’t have the lifestyle she assumed he would have. I’m sure he saved for months or an entire year to take that trip to meet her. 

On 1/13/2024 at 6:30 PM, MrBuhBye said:

Maybe if he can’t afford to bring her over he could find someone here.  Just saying.

If David and Sheila are in love and want to be together, I would think the more practical thing would be to save and wait an additional year for the paperwork to come through and cover both airline tickets/extra costs of supporting her and her son. 

[1011101010001]

As someone else noted there are a lot of expenses with home ownership.  So if he is working minimum wage jobs, how is he going to cover property taxes, insurance, utilities, major repairs etc.?  Plus whatever car expenses he has.  It wouldn’t be good to own a home and then lose it in a few years because you are living beyond your means.  

[Scarlett45]

3 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

As someone else noted there are a lot of expenses with home ownership.  So if he is working minimum wage jobs, how is he going to cover property taxes, insurance, utilities, major repairs etc.?  Plus whatever car expenses he has.  It wouldn’t be good to own a home and then lose it in a few years because you are living beyond your means.  

This is true- but if you buy a home in cash, taxes, insurance, etc would be the monthly rent you’re used to paying. For most of us (no matter our income level) our housing is our biggest monthly expense. If I didn’t have a mortgage payment (and just taxes, insurance and maintenance) I would be rolling in dough on a monthly basis. 
 

I assume the $150k-$200k ask was to purchase a small home in cash in Kansas. 

[Quof]

Doesn't he have 2 jobs?  Perhaps he only gets part-time hours at each, or maybe he works far more than 40 hours per week, both for the money and just because he doesn't have much of a social life, and wants to cut back to a normal full time schedule when Sheila arrives.  

[1011101010001]

22 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

This is true- but if you buy a home in cash, taxes, insurance, etc would be the monthly rent you’re used to paying. For most of us (no matter our income level) our housing is our biggest monthly expense. If I didn’t have a mortgage payment (and just taxes, insurance and maintenance) I would be rolling in dough on a monthly basis. 
 

I assume the $150k-$200k ask was to purchase a small home in cash in Kansas. 

In some areas property taxes rise much faster than incomes but maybe he will be able to swing it. 

24 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

small home in cash in Kansas.

Think he is in Nebraska.

[Scarlett45]

16 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

In some areas property taxes rise much faster than incomes but maybe he will be able to swing it. 

Think he is in Nebraska.

You’re right he is in Nebraska. Omaha?

[1011101010001]

I believe so but could be a burb because they are not always honest.

[Elizzikra]

6 hours ago, Quof said:

Doesn't he have 2 jobs?  Perhaps he only gets part-time hours at each, or maybe he works far more than 40 hours per week, both for the money and just because he doesn't have much of a social life, and wants to cut back to a normal full time schedule when Sheila arrives.  

He does, or at least he did. He stocks shelves in a supermarket and also cleans at a hotel or casino. I think one job might be part time and one is full time.

[surfgirl]

I really find this gross, asking people to give you money for a house when you can't even afford to bring your internet girlfriend to the US. His IG account is bizarre and honestly, I think it's ridiculous to be begging for money of he can afford the legal fees and a suitable home for his potential bride and her son.  If he really wants to be with her maybe a better option would be to move to the Philippines and live there. I wonder if he gets any social security disability money each month. That would go far over there. And I'd bet he could get a job with a NGO that works with deaf people. I mean, there are options over there that would make it doable on a smaller income.

Edited January 18 by surfgirl

[1011101010001]

I don’t think she would marry him if he planned to live over there.

[surfgirl]

1 hour ago, MrBuhBye said:

I don’t think she would marry him if he planned to live over there.

If that's so, then I guess it's another international transactional relationship isn't it?

[1011101010001]

29 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

If that's so, then I guess it's another international transactional relationship isn't it?

Let’s just say I don’t think he is her dream husband.

[surfgirl]

37 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

1 hour ago, surfgirl said:

If that's so, then I guess it's another international transactional relationship isn't it?

Let’s just say I don’t think he is her dream husband.

Another head-in-the-sand American dude who's playing Captain Save a Gal. I'd actually have more respect for him/them if he figured out how to get a decent job over there and they could live in a nice place on a fraction of what it costs here. Her kid could go to an international school over there, I mean, it's so much more feasible when you're a guy with basic job skills (I say that based only on the two jobs he has, it's not a diss to him). It's delusional to think you're going to fund a K1 Visa process and a new house all via a Go Fund Me.

[Raja]

14 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

Another head-in-the-sand American dude who's playing Captain Save a Gal. I'd actually have more respect for him/them if he figured out how to get a decent job over there and they could live in a nice place on a fraction of what it costs here. Her kid could go to an international school over there, I mean, it's so much more feasible when you're a guy with basic job skills (I say that based only on the two jobs he has, it's not a diss to him). It's delusional to think you're going to fund a K1 Visa process and a new house all via a Go Fund Me.

The problem with a fraction of the cost is the fraction of the pay. It is the reason a tenth of the adult population is working overseas