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16 hours ago, politichick said:

Regarding the photo, as I recall, he said he did not pose for that and it was taken without his knowledge.

I guess what bothered me is how appalled he acted because she took a picture of him while they were out together. So what if she sent it to someone (Preston) after texting him that she was hanging with him. They've already been intimate, and it's not like it was a nude picture or pix of him in a bad light. It was just a picture from their outing. No doubt she has half a dozen more.

But he defines taking a natural pix as "really weird", which implies a distance from her like... We didn't date, we weren't intimate ... She must have stalked me to take that picture...

What's really weird is sleeping with someone and then trying to make it a secret from the world. Step down from your own "weird" ego, bruh.

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On 4/26/2024 at 9:14 AM, politichick said:

I find the women in this group frustrating because all they do is cry and argue and it's annoying.

I 100% agree!  They are so immature and take every little thing someone says to them as a diss to run off and have a tantrum about.  

Amir's girlfriend needs to get over herself.  

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15 minutes ago, swankie said:

Amir's girlfriend needs to get over herself.  

This!  I’m less worried about Bria and her relationship and more worried about Amir.  Past social media history aside, he seems like a nice guy.  I hate seeing him feel the need to walk on eggshells all the time where she’s concerned.

I’m not bothered by any of them working as bunnies.  They can be educated and cultured and also work this type of job.  They probably made lots of contacts in entertainment and other industries. I just hope the Playboy organization still isn’t the nightmare it was portrayed to be in the docuseries.

I am glad to see others added to the mix this week besides the core group.  I don’t think I want to see another talent show.

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On 4/27/2024 at 1:27 AM, Chalby said:

I guess what bothered me is how appalled he acted because she took a picture of him while they were out together. So what if she sent it to someone (Preston) after texting him that she was hanging with him. They've already been intimate, and it's not like it was a nude picture or pix of him in a bad light. It was just a picture from their outing. No doubt she has half a dozen more.

But he defines taking a natural pix as "really weird", which implies a distance from her like... We didn't date, we weren't intimate ... She must have stalked me to take that picture...

What's really weird is sleeping with someone and then trying to make it a secret from the world. Step down from your own "weird" ego, bruh.

I don't think he was appalled that she took a picture of him, I think he was appalled because she snuck and took a photo and then shared it without his permission to mutual friends. The weird part was it was easy to just say "Alex is in town and he and I are hanging out" but she characterized it as this romantic thing that it absolutely wasn't from his perspective. If we are all friends and you are sending a pic to say we are hanging out, then tag me and let me know. It's the positioning it as casual sex to him, while saying it's something romantic to mutual friends that he finds weird.

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They're trying to fit in so many different events in a short two week period, I'm exhausted just watching it. Don't they ever just sit around & hang out?

Not a Summer fan. She appeared to be itching for a fight with someone/anyone.  I get that she was going through a lot, just don't understand why she felt the need to go after the ladies for perceived slights when they were just drunk & trying to have fun.

Natalie comes off as controlling. Are they still together? If Amir really only 5'4'?

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20 minutes ago, snarts said:

They're trying to fit in so many different events in a short two week period, I'm exhausted just watching it. Don't they ever just sit around & hang out?

Not a Summer fan. She appeared to be itching for a fight with someone/anyone.  I get that she was going through a lot, just don't understand why she felt the need to go after the ladies for perceived slights when they were just drunk & trying to have fun.

Natalie comes off as controlling. Are they still together? If Amir really only 5'4'?

And as I recall, none of those girls were interested in Amir. What was he talking about? He is, however, too nice for Natalie.

Summer has some serious issues. I'm sick of all of the hysteria from all of the girls.

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2 hours ago, politichick said:

And as I recall, none of those girls were interested in Amir. What was he talking about? He is, however, too nice for Natalie.

Summer has some serious issues. I'm sick of all of the hysteria from all of the girls.

My guess? Natalie has already expressed that she isn't comfortable with some of these ladies, and Amir is trying to diffuse the potential storm coming, by identifying what would otherwise be completely innocent behavior, and advising Natalie not to get upset over it. Then he goes the extra mile by stating that he'll call it out as well if it does occur, to try to prevent any blowups on Natalie's part. My guess, she will have a problem anyway and decide to go HAM on one of the single girls who will then promptly step into a fight over nothing.

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5 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

I don't think he was appalled that she took a picture of him, I think he was appalled because she snuck and took a photo and then shared it without his permission to mutual friends. The weird part was it was easy to just say "Alex is in town and he and I are hanging out" but she characterized it as this romantic thing that it absolutely wasn't from his perspective. If we are all friends and you are sending a pic to say we are hanging out, then tag me and let me know. It's the positioning it as casual sex to him, while saying it's something romantic to mutual friends that he finds weird.

Yikes sounds like a lot of game playing just because they were intimate. If they had never slept together, he wouldn't even blink his eye of her sending a candid photo of him to a friend without him knowing.

I've taken lots of candid shots of friends when we're out together and I don't tag them UNLESS I'm posting it. But in a text to another friend? Nah, I'd just send with "guess who I'm hanging with?" note.

It's not that big a deal so I think they need to find a better storyline. No one should be made to feel bad for taking a picture in a public place, especially if it was never posted on her Instagram.

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On 4/28/2024 at 9:23 PM, For Cereals said:

I’m not bothered by any of them working as bunnies.  They can be educated and cultured and also work this type of job.  They probably made lots of contacts in entertainment and other industries. I just hope the Playboy organization still isn’t the nightmare it was portrayed to be in the docuseries.

In no way am I dissing being a playboy bunny because it was a good paying, benefits given, type of job.

My concern came with the three of them bonding over this common experience, and it appeared to morph into a mean girls club. Especially when discussing what women were wearing and whether it's fashionable or not. Yeah right, according to whom?

And anyone that worked as a bunny knows that appearance and figure is everything in the job. I wouldn't want ex bunnies judging me, or offering advice, as it's not on the same level.

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The kitchen crew standing around while drunken people ran screaming through more than once looking like they were watching a match at Wimbledon was fantastic.

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20 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

I don't think he was appalled that she took a picture of him, I think he was appalled because she snuck and took a photo and then shared it without his permission to mutual friends.

Exactly.  He was in it for casual sex, she was in it for a relationship.  That pic shows she is wanting more than he does and she knows it, hence the sneaking photo.  I am with him on this.  She was making it something it was not.  

Why doesn't anyone seem to like Alex much?  He is nice to look at, but he is a little weird.

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16 hours ago, Chalby said:

Yikes sounds like a lot of game playing just because they were intimate. If they had never slept together, he wouldn't even blink his eye of her sending a candid photo of him to a friend without him knowing.

I've taken lots of candid shots of friends when we're out together and I don't tag them UNLESS I'm posting it. But in a text to another friend? Nah, I'd just send with "guess who I'm hanging with?" note.

It's not that big a deal so I think they need to find a better storyline. No one should be made to feel bad for taking a picture in a public place, especially if it was never posted on her Instagram.

It wasn't a candid photo. They showed the picture she shared and it was taken from a distance where he wasn't even aware or looking at the camera. Appeared to be on a sidewalk/walkway outside her home.

It appeared she was bragging that he was at her house and included the pic as proof.  I'm with Alex that it was a creepy and I understand why he distanced himself.

Might be a bit biased as I have an acquaintance who used to do this a lot, take pictures of people without their knowledge and then post them to social media to look like she had all these friends. You'd be sitting at a baseball game eating a hot dog and suddenly people would be commenting on a photo of you. I found it intrusive and annoying,

The way Summer keeps talking about him being inside her, I think she feels he should now treat her differently in the house whereas he just thought it was something casual between them and was weirded out by her publicly outing it. 

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On 4/30/2024 at 8:42 AM, snarts said:

It wasn't a candid photo. They showed the picture she shared and it was taken from a distance where he wasn't even aware or looking at the camera. Appeared to be on a sidewalk/walkway outside her home

For the record this IS a candid photo, and everyone is making way too big a deal about it. It was a good photo.

A candid photograph is a photograph captured without creating a posed appearance. The candid nature of a photograph is unrelated to the subject's knowledge about or consent to the fact that photographs are being taken, and are unrelated to the subject's permission for further usage and distribution...This style is also called street photography, spontaneous photography or snap shooting...

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On 5/1/2024 at 10:32 PM, Chalby said:

For the record this IS a candid photo, and everyone is making way too big a deal about it. It was a good photo.

Thanks for googling the definition of a candid photo. To me, it looked more like screenshot from her Ring doorbell camera that Summer used to publicly prove that they were banging. So let's just agree to disagree...

So Amir's not allowed to mention the name Jordan? What a nice trusting relationship they have. I also felt bad for him when Moriah tried to shame him about the laundry. It's definitely not his fault that she got irate and put her hands on somebody. I don't like her, glad she was sent home.

Previews - I can't believe the ladies think telling Nick's girl that he gets handsy when drinking is a good idea. 

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42 minutes ago, snarts said:

Thanks for googling the definition of a candid photo. To me, it looked more like screenshot from her Ring doorbell camera that Summer used to publicly prove that they were banging. So let's just agree to disagree...

So Amir's not allowed to mention the name Jordan? What a nice trusting relationship they have. I also felt bad for him when Moriah tried to shame him about the laundry. It's definitely not his fault that she got irate and put her hands on somebody. I don't like her, glad she was sent home.

Previews - I can't believe the ladies think telling Nick's girl that he gets handsy when drinking is a good idea. 

It was a candid photo, but wasn't it taken without his knowledge? Then she posts it, also without his knowledge. I think maybe she wanted him to be more than "inside her."

I don't know. There's so much emotion on this show that I'm having a hard time enjoying it and definitely am wondering why I watch.

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Very telling how no one commented on this show this week.

I think it would be better if they brought in a new cast or just kept the guys and have them entertain guests. Those girls are just too emo and definitely not bringing "black excellence," at least to this black woman. 

Each time I see "screenwriter" under Jasmine's name, I'm, like, what?!?

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17 minutes ago, politichick said:

Very telling how no one commented on this show this week.

I think it would be better if they brought in a new cast or just kept the guys and have them entertain guests. Those girls are just too emo and definitely not bringing "black excellence," at least to this black woman. 

Each time I see "screenwriter" under Jasmine's name, I'm, like, what?!?

I binged the first season and was excited to watch S2 in real time but each episode seemingly devolves into arguments that I find hard to follow.

Not sure I support keeping all the men, some are just as annoying, arguing over the smallest slight. This past week Nick was upset because the ladies were chatting his drunk flirtiness. He attacked them for it instead of Natalie, who was the one running with the story to tell his girlfriend.

Hello Nick, you do flirt/get handsy and they're allowed to have opinion on it. Why not ask Natalie why she was trying to stir up shit by telling your girlfriend A) I'm sure she's aware and, B) who cares? It's not like he's cheating.

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It's a struggle to think of commentary--- that's a bad sign. Let's see:

I like Nick, Preston & the new lady. Amir & his girlfriend can go. Meh about everyone else.

I felt bad for Simon. Last year, he came in laden with ridiculously expensive gifts & got so much praise from everyone. This year, minus the gifts his name is mud. It can be lonely being in a group speaking a language that is not your first language. Even though his English is excellent, a lot of nuances are missed.

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Natalie seems like the perfect BRAVO girlfriend in that she appears to amplify the worst characteristics of her partner.

Im looking at you Amir…..

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Well, that was a real nothingburger of a season. I loved this show last year. The people in the cast seemed mostly sensible, and their activities were fun. This year, all the women lost their minds, and most of the season was them arguing and crying while the men looked befuddled. The only time I felt engaged was for the 32 minutes that Milo was missing.

I don't think these people really are friends. I suspect the former bunnies were work friends, and the others were various acquaintances. Now that they're castmates, they hang out occasionally to have things to post on social media and bitch about on the show. I am hoping for a third season, but I want everyone to have their shit together beforehand.

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8 hours ago, Passing Strange said:

Well, that was a real nothingburger of a season. I loved this show last year. The people in the cast seemed mostly sensible, and their activities were fun. This year, all the women lost their minds, and most of the season was them arguing and crying while the men looked befuddled. The only time I felt engaged was for the 32 minutes that Milo was missing.

I don't think these people really are friends. I suspect the former bunnies were work friends, and the others were various acquaintances. Now that they're castmates, they hang out occasionally to have things to post on social media and bitch about on the show. I am hoping for a third season, but I want everyone to have their shit together beforehand.

I totally agree. The women were maddening! And I don't care for the way they treated Nick. If you don't want eyes wandering, don't surround the man with your twerking asses and exposed tits. He was not even leering at them; more like, WTAF?

And will Jasmine return next year with a baby? I'd like a new cast with Jordan, Nick, Preston, and Alex. Amir can stay at home with messy Natalie.

They're having a reunion. Can't imagine what that will be like.

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So, this cast is closer in age to my son than to me, and one of his female friends commented that most of the cast is actually closer to late 30-somethings who try to act like they are late 20-somethings on tv. She noted that she's seen some of them "in the wild" and the real doesn't at all match the show. She specifically noted how crazy it is that 'ole girl calls herself a screenwriter with a single credit which came after her appearance on the show.

It also took me all season to figure out why Summer was so salty with Alex. I think she thought he was going to be her person to confide in, but when they were several days in and she realized he was treating her the same as every other woman in the house. That coupled with his failure to give her invites to his off-screen activities couldn't be read as anything other than "you're not that significant". She starting spiraling after that, but of course didn't talk about any of it to anyone and just looks like a crazy drunk as a result.

Finally, Bria...somebody needs to tell that chick she needs to grow up. With her untrained emotional support dog, her full toolbox of therapy speak and her absolute entitlement to act the fool, she's not going to be able to get away with this much longer. It plays well at 20, is less understandable at 30 and is unacceptable at 40. 

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1 hour ago, Rlb8031 said:

So, this cast is closer in age to my son than to me, and one of his female friends commented that most of the cast is actually closer to late 30-somethings who try to act like they are late 20-somethings on tv.

That’s like Summer House (original).  It’s pathetic.  Bravo needs actual fun 20-somethings.

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3 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

So, this cast is closer in age to my son than to me, and one of his female friends commented that most of the cast is actually closer to late 30-somethings who try to act like they are late 20-somethings on tv. She noted that she's seen some of them "in the wild" and the real doesn't at all match the show. She specifically noted how crazy it is that 'ole girl calls herself a screenwriter with a single credit which came after her appearance on the show.

It also took me all season to figure out why Summer was so salty with Alex. I think she thought he was going to be her person to confide in, but when they were several days in and she realized he was treating her the same as every other woman in the house. That coupled with his failure to give her invites to his off-screen activities couldn't be read as anything other than "you're not that significant". She starting spiraling after that, but of course didn't talk about any of it to anyone and just looks like a crazy drunk as a result.

Finally, Bria...somebody needs to tell that chick she needs to grow up. With her untrained emotional support dog, her full toolbox of therapy speak and her absolute entitlement to act the fool, she's not going to be able to get away with this much longer. It plays well at 20, is less understandable at 30 and is unacceptable at 40. 

Loved this whole post. Tell your son's friend that Jasmine's "screenwriter" is crazy to me, too, and I shake my head each time I see it.

I for some unknown reason watched the marathon yesterday and Summer told Alex there's a "sort of love" or some bullshit like that that happens when two people have had sex, and he was, like, "No, ma'am."

Few people with a longstanding history of going to the Vineyard would ever want to hang with any of them with perhaps the exception of Alex and Nick.

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18 hours ago, Rlb8031 said:

She specifically noted how crazy it is that 'ole girl calls herself a screenwriter with a single credit which came after her appearance on the show.

 

15 hours ago, politichick said:

Loved this whole post. Tell your son's friend that Jasmine's "screenwriter" is crazy to me, too, and I shake my head each time I see it.

Jasmine wrote the screenplay for a short film, which entitles Jasmine to call herself a screenwriter.

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On 5/6/2024 at 5:56 AM, snarts said:

Thanks for googling the definition of a candid photo. To me, it looked more like screenshot from her Ring doorbell camera that Summer used to publicly prove that they were banging. So let's just agree to disagree...

For the record, I know photography angles and shots only because I've taught this subject for years. But I did google my description "candid" in case it changed in the last year or so. I don't know what Ring pixs will be considered as.

Anyhow, of course we can disagree. I just didn't think a simple pix should cause so much negativity. Much ado about nothing. 

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On 5/6/2024 at 6:40 AM, politichick said:

It was a candid photo, but wasn't it taken without his knowledge?

Then she posts it, also without his knowledge.

I stand corrected. I had no idea she "posted it". I thought she just shared it while messaging that one fellow. Public posting without consent is rude.

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On 5/19/2024 at 10:12 PM, bosawks said:

Natalie seems like the perfect BRAVO girlfriend in that she appears to amplify the worst characteristics of her partner.

Im looking at you Amir…..

It looks to me that she's using Amir to be on the show.  The way she jumped right into the drama that had nothing whatsoever to do with her was like she was auditioning to become a regular.  She's already proven she doesn't trust or respect Amir.  I certainly don't think she's in love with him.  She's very narcissistic.  She wants to be seen.  She's using him.

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On 5/23/2024 at 11:20 PM, Chalby said:

I stand corrected. I had no idea she "posted it". I thought she just shared it while messaging that one fellow. Public posting without consent is rude.

I'm not sure she posted it. I thought she sent the photo to one of the women. 

On 5/24/2024 at 4:45 AM, swankie said:

It looks to me that she's using Amir to be on the show.  The way she jumped right into the drama that had nothing whatsoever to do with her was like she was auditioning to become a regular.  She's already proven she doesn't trust or respect Amir.  I certainly don't think she's in love with him.  She's very narcissistic.  She wants to be seen.  She's using him.

She would never become his girlfriend if he were not on the show. She thinks she is so much better than him, and he is scared to death he might say something that would anger her. It's obvious she created drama in order to become a regular cast member. Since when Nick's girlfriend is her friend, and she decided to be the one to inform her about his perceived indiscretions? She literally met her hours before.

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On 5/23/2024 at 11:20 PM, Chalby said:

I had no idea she "posted it".

She didn't. She sent it privately to Jordan, who Summer said knew that she and Alex were hanging out. As odd and unpleasant as Summer was about some things, I agree that she wasn't wrong with this one. 

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9 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Since when Nick's girlfriend is her friend, and she decided to be the one to inform her about his perceived indiscretions? She literally met her hours before.

They are "friends". She and Amir have spent time with Nick and his girlfriend outside of the show. Double dates and the such. But if she was a real friend, she would have told the GF off camera. The fact that she was trying to do it on the show and at dinner is a dead give away that she's trying to get on the show. Her and Amir's relationship is toxic as fuck and he's just too nice a guy to see it. 

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9 hours ago, luckyroll3 said:

They are "friends". She and Amir have spent time with Nick and his girlfriend outside of the show. Double dates and the such. But if she was a real friend, she would have told the GF off camera. The fact that she was trying to do it on the show and at dinner is a dead give away that she's trying to get on the show. Her and Amir's relationship is toxic as fuck and he's just too nice a guy to see it. 

Did they spend any considerable time with Nick and Tasia before Season 2 filmed? Tasia sensed where the conversation was going and left. 

It's a shame because I liked Amir in S1. It was obvious he encouraged Natalie to talk to Tasia like any seasoned reality person would do. 

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What a shitshow of a reunion. They were all in shades of pink so the set looked like pepto bismal spill. Amir wore a sleeveless ivory fuzzy sweater with pale pink pants. Seriously. Oh, and Jasmine was blonde and IMHO it looked hideous.

The cast is too big, they don't like each other. I hope if it's renewed for S3 that there's a major cast shake-up/purge. 

 

 

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Yet even all in pink, they still managed to look substantially better than the group from original recipe Summer House. Except for Jordan, who looked like she was wearing a leftover breastplate from RuPaul's Drag Race, the women's dresses were nice, and hair and makeup were on point. The guys all looked good and unlike Kyle's too tight and West's too big suits, their clothes fit. Alex carried off a tailored suit with sneakers, and I loved Preston's footwear. I wonder if Andy decreed pink so he could wear his Pepto Bismol suit.

I wish someone would answer the question about Jasmine with the truth. "You were inauthentic" doesn't tell her they think Silas is demanding and controlling, and they hate the Stepford wife she's become. When the majority of your TV friends don't miss Silas, maybe they're not the problem.

I wanted to slap Noelle every time she accused someone of lying. 

The crap about Nick got old fast. He's your friend, not your superior. If he's making you uncomfortable, no matter what the reason is, tell him. He's smart, he's mature, he'll figure it out. Or you could, you know, babble about it among yourselves and then bitch at him when he wants to know what's up.

Summer is right about one thing at least: Shanice doesn't have great taste. I'm still chuckling about the sweater. "Yes, but I know how to pair it. You don't." Tactful, that one.

They really do know that the location has nothing to do with Martha Stewart, right?

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17 hours ago, Passing Strange said:

The crap about Nick got old fast. He's your friend, not your superior. If he's making you uncomfortable, no matter what the reason is, tell him. He's smart, he's mature, he'll figure it out. Or you could, you know, babble about it among yourselves and then bitch at him when he wants to know what's up.

I thought the whole thing was ridiculous and manufactured drama with Brie being a walkaway bitch.  I would absolutely hate if someone I was trying to talk to kept saying "Go ahead, get it out, let it go...."  UGH!  I wanted to slap that smug look at Brie's face so bad!  She was talking shit about one of her "friends" then acts all smug about it.  I just can't with her.  I hope she does not come back if there is another season

Honestly, this season sucked because the women fought consistently about a lot of NOTHING or something they started.  The guys were ok.  At least they get along.

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11 hours ago, ZettaK said:

The cast was not in good terms. I wonder how the ratings were. 

The original Summer House was renewed according to this.

According to TV Deets ratings were not good.  Meh, I tried to watch this show but it was just kinda boring to me.  Preston was great but everyone else....🥱

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13 hours ago, ZettaK said:

The cast was not in good terms. I wonder how the ratings were. 

No need to cancel, just an overhaul is necessary.  Just find some Bostonians who are young and messy, have them go to MV on the weekend, like Summer House original recipe.  Just add some alcohol for hard partying and drama will rise.

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48 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

No need to cancel, just an overhaul is necessary.  Just find some Bostonians who are young and messy, have them go to MV on the weekend, like Summer House original recipe.  Just add some alcohol for hard partying and drama will rise.

I think  you meant "hahd pahtying" and "dramah".....

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25 minutes ago, bosawks said:

I think  you meant "hahd pahtying" and "dramah".....

LOL. Most black people in Boston don't speak with that accent, especially middle and upper class.

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I liked the first season, but some of the women had personal problems, and (I can understand it) were not "fun" to be around in the second season (Jordan, Summer). 

Silas was not missed by most of the viewers, or the cast (I think the few cast members who said they missed him did it in order to be polite). Amir was messy, and his new girlfriend super messy and super thirsty. I always had an issue with Alex because he exposed Shanice's issues with an ex (that was mostly a false narrative by the ex on gossip sites) during the first season, and then because he was too touchy about Summer revealing to Jordan, a close friend, they were seeing each other. Bria has her own issues. I don't think Simon seeks clout through her, I think he is an attention seeker, and he always was. Nick sent DMs to several of the female cast members in the first season when he was in a relationship, and he was a little handsy this season, so I don't blame his girlfriend for breaking up with him- he humiliated her on tv. Preston is the most likeable.

Noelle's dress, and Alex's outfit at the reunion were decent looking. 

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WTF am I watching!? If I wanted to see a bunch of babies crying in every episode I would stay home all day with my kids. This show is clinging to life. 

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True. It's on pause. I hope that means they're retooling, and it will come back and be as much fun as it was the first season. They're not even pretending that Jasmine was the organizer anymore, so give that role to, say, Preston and let the Cooper family stay home. Then, just cast some people who aren't "going through a lot right now."

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