Stars On Mars - General Discussion

[Madding crowd]

Ariel seems grim and humorless all the time. Can’t believe they would add weepy Ashley to the group. Adam and Portia acted silly during this mission. I guess I like Tinase the best of this group.

[milkyaqua]

Not sure how the new folks will gel with the current group but it'll be interesting at least for an epi or two.  Adam and Portia did act a bit silly during the mission but since it was successful I guess that's moot.  I didn't really appreciate them teasing the group about a possible elimination.  Ariel is not making friends with the new guy so we'll see how that goes.  Oh, lookie we got a bachlorette, geez.

[Johannah]

1 hour ago, milkyaqua said:

Not sure how the new folks will gel with the current group but it'll be interesting at least for an epi or two.  Adam and Portia did act a bit silly during the mission but since it was successful I guess that's moot.  I didn't really appreciate them teasing the group about a possible elimination.  Ariel is not making friends with the new guy so we'll see how that goes.  Oh, lookie we got a bachlorette, geez.

I expect most missions will be successful, especially if it involves someone "dying".  Saving the new people, getting to the oxygen...  I think it's a foregone conclusion that these "missions" will be successful.  They didn't even make the robot dogs "death" permanent. 

I never heard of the new people, but the comedian looked familiar.  But then, I hadn't heard of most of the first group other than the jocks - but I hadn't heard of the skater and he can leave now.  I don't think he's anywhere near as attractive or cool as he thinks he is and he just proved it with his actions this ep.  I agree with the cast that it would seem unfair to vote someone off when new people arrive (although they do it on other shows, I believe), but I would have been perfectly happy if that skater was kicked off.

 

Edited July 11, 2023 by Johannah

[milkyaqua]

3 minutes ago, Johannah said:

I never heard of the new people, but the comedian looked familiar. 

I've heard of Andy Richter because of the Conan O'Brien show and I believe he also had his own show.  I've heard of Cat Cora as well but I don't follow any of the bachelor/bachelorette stuff and I'm not all that familiar with sports stars who aren't from my local teams or just so famous that almost everyone knows who they are.

[snarts]

Lance is definitely living up to his deserved reputation.  

So Rhonda can't find common ground with anyone who isn't a professional athlete?

Poor little Paul had his feelings hurt when Ariel asked everyone to pipe down and for that, he's on a mission to oust her?

[Dirtybubble]

I'm done with this show.  The fun seems to be gone from the show and we're left with controversial hot button topics and 4 new people I don't care about.  Ashley I from the Bachelor franchise?!  Good lawd she is annoying and thirsty!

Looks like all the people eliminated so far left just in the nick of time.  🥱

[milkyaqua]

17 hours ago, snarts said:

Lance is definitely living up to his deserved reputation.  

Someone definitely doesn't know how to read the room.  Even though there are folks who have expressed that same opinion and you're locked up for who knows how long with a group of people, you should probably have enough sense to know what subjects are safer to talk about.

[seacliffsal]

4 minutes ago, milkyaqua said:

Someone definitely doesn't know how to read the room.  Even though there are folks who have expressed that same opinion and you're locked up for who knows how long with a group of people, you should probably have enough sense to know what subjects are safer to talk about.

I understand about reading the room, but sometimes one just wants to share their opinion when others are doing so.  Are people so very afraid of listening to a different perspective/viewpoint that others have to limit what they say?  If one is not being hateful, why can't an opposing viewpoint be shared?  There was immediate condemnation of Lance (of whom I most definitely am not a fan), not an effort to understand his perspective.  Understanding perspectives does not mean we have to support or agree with those perspectives, but shouldn't we all be willing to listen to and maybe even learn from each other?  This scene represents a lot of what is going on socially-people don't want to listen to opposing viewpoints and try to shut those people down.  Lance specifically said that he supports the community, it was being able to compete athletically with which he had hesitations.

[milkyaqua]

9 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

I understand about reading the room, but sometimes one just wants to share their opinion when others are doing so.  Are people so very afraid of listening to a different perspective/viewpoint that others have to limit what they say?  If one is not being hateful, why can't an opposing viewpoint be shared? 

I agree with this but it was obviously going to push buttons and unfortunately as you said, nowadays it's a lot hard to express an opinion and have a civil conversation about it without someone feeling attacked.  It's pretty much what's been going on in local/federal governments for the past few decades.  Nothing good is coming to come out of any of this unless people can learn to turn the volume down and hear each other out before pouncing.

[rmontro]

2 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

I understand about reading the room, but sometimes one just wants to share their opinion when others are doing so.  Are people so very afraid of listening to a different perspective/viewpoint that others have to limit what they say?  If one is not being hateful, why can't an opposing viewpoint be shared? 

I thought the response to Lance was very typical Gen Z/Hollywood celebrity.  Which is to villainize any opposing point of view and ostracize the person holding that opinion.  Honestly, they probably have to do that to keep their jobs in Hollywood.  On the other hand, from what I gathered, Lance was the one who brought up the subject, which was a stupid thing to do.  As children, we used to be taught to never bring up religion or politics in polite company.

It might have been interesting to see what the athletes vs. celebs might have thought though.  Ronda had a look on her face like she wasn't getting involved in that.

Arf!  Arf!

[Grizzly]

Question is, would Lance have listened calmly and openly to an opposing viewpoint? 

[LakeGal]

I had seen recently that Lance and Kaitlyn Jenner are both working together on this subject.  They both believe that trans athletes should not be allowed to compete in women's sports.  He truly believes he is right about this.  Now we are seeing Lance talk about it on the show.  I just have a problem with Lance who cheated in his own sport talking about this.   

[SHERMDOG]

6 hours ago, Grizzly said:

Question is, would Lance have listened calmly and openly to an opposing viewpoint? 

Good question!!

[Ananayel]

Also, didn't Caitlyn Jenner compete in a women's golf tournament? Can't stand either one of them.

Now that Natasha is gone, I don't really know much about the rest (other than Lance). I'm okay with Andy Richter, and I've seen Cat Cora in a couple of things, but nothing that makes this must-see tv. Well, except for Shat being Shat. So I may be out, and we'll try again next season, if there is one.

[seacliffsal]

At this point, I think the only thing holding this show together is Shatty Daddy.  So, of course, I'm in until the end (and, no, I'm not proud of myself for my t.v. viewing habits...).  I do like the creativity of the challenges/tasks and I might add that Martha and Eartha are growing on me and I'm so glad they survived the blasts.  

[lh25]

On 7/11/2023 at 4:08 PM, snarts said:

Poor little Paul had his feelings hurt when Ariel asked everyone to pipe down and for that, he's on a mission to oust her?

And I have a sneaking suspicion that he wouldn't have felt the same had the MC been male.  

[ladle]

On 7/13/2023 at 3:17 PM, lh25 said:

And I have a sneaking suspicion that he wouldn't have felt the same had the MC been male.  

100%. 

I keep wondering if there's something we haven't seen between Lance and Ariel that makes him dislike her so much. He told the new cast members that "last night" there was "a lot of drama" and that it was "really bad." I haven't seen anything remotely dramatic occur between them though? 

[MyMaui]

I do like this show but good grief I cannot stand Ariel at all.  She is just as annoying in real like as she was on Modern Family.

[Diana Berry]

On 7/12/2023 at 12:42 PM, seacliffsal said:

I understand about reading the room, but sometimes one just wants to share their opinion when others are doing so.  Are people so very afraid of listening to a different perspective/viewpoint that others have to limit what they say?  If one is not being hateful, why can't an opposing viewpoint be shared?  There was immediate condemnation of Lance (of whom I most definitely am not a fan), not an effort to understand his perspective.  Understanding perspectives does not mean we have to support or agree with those perspectives, but shouldn't we all be willing to listen to and maybe even learn from each other?  This scene represents a lot of what is going on socially-people don't want to listen to opposing viewpoints and try to shut those people down.  Lance specifically said that he supports the community, it was being able to compete athletically with which he had hesitations.

Bravo good post

[Diana Berry]

On 7/12/2023 at 3:18 PM, rmontro said:

I thought the response to Lance was very typical Gen Z/Hollywood celebrity.  Which is to villainize any opposing point of view and ostracize the person holding that opinion.  Honestly, they probably have to do that to keep their jobs in Hollywood.  On the other hand, from what I gathered, Lance was the one who brought up the subject, which was a stupid thing to do.  As children, we used to be taught to never bring up religion or politics in polite company.

It might have been interesting to see what the athletes vs. celebs might have thought though.  Ronda had a look on her face like she wasn't getting involved in that.

Arf!  Arf!

I have really strong opinions on the topic especially after listening to Riley Gaines.    There is never any middle ground with hollywood

[Diana Berry]

Does anyone know where this is filmed besides Mars?

[seacliffsal]

3 hours ago, Diana Berry said:

Does anyone know where this is filmed besides Mars?

Wait, what?  You mean this group of 'celebrities' isn't the first human grouping we have sent to actual Mars?  These people with their high level skill sets, scientific minds, and wonderful compatibility aren't the first ones chosen to create a settlement on Mars?  Shatty Daddy doesn't work at the real Mission Control?  What???

[Grizzly]

4 hours ago, Diana Berry said:

Does anyone know where this is filmed besides Mars?

I saw in the credits something about Australia. 

[Johannah]

7 hours ago, Diana Berry said:

Does anyone know where this is filmed besides Mars?

It's all smoke and mirrors.  It's actually filmed on Jupiter.  Lots of empty space there and the taxes are reasonable.

[seacliffsal]

Well this was an...interesting...episode.  I guess some celebrities are so coddled that they don't know how to respond to different perspectives.  I totally got what Marshawn was saying about not having either Lance or Ariel as Base Commander.  And he was proven correct when they both showed how immature they are while telling us how mature they are.  Really Lance?  Wanting to quit?  I guess there's not a way to find a substance that will allow you to win (what that too much of a comment?).  

I wasn't surprised that Ashley I went home.  The other contestants probably don't really know who she is and she didn't seem to seemlessly blend into the group.  There are real alliances being formed and I think there will be a lot of tension moving forward.  It seemed like Ariel was trying to target Paul but Porshia and others weren't having it.  

My biggest question after watching this episode is: where were the dogs?

[snarts]

For me, this episode highlighted the amazingly fragile male ego. Apparently, there's nothing worse than an outspoken female who dares use a strident tone in their presence. 

While I agree with Marshawn's concerns with having either of them be Base Commander. I side eye his only bringing it up once Ariel won the vote. Before that, he was all in on Lance. Lance, who was so butthurt that someone dared disagree with him that he threatened to pick up his toys & go home.

It sucks that it appears Lance, Marshawn & Paul will not be happy until Ariel is gone. Why, what exactly did she do that's so threatening to them?

Ashley should've been praised for her ingenuity rather than being slagged for laziness, it wasn't her fault that was the hole she was assigned but they have to vote off someone I guess. 

[KeithJ]

Personally, Marshawn's concerns with Ariel and Lance were bullshit.  He didn't even have them until after Ariel was voted as base commander and he was actually the first one to nominate Lance for base commander.  I think he was just worried about one of his alliance members getting sent home.

[milkyaqua]

I think Lance and Ariel both have issues as far as this competition goes.  But it does seem some of the males have easily bruised egos.  I wonder how long it will be until one of the newer additions is voted base commander.  So long Ashley (I'm amazed at all the makeup some of the contestants brought with them).

[seacliffsal]

I did love the end part during the credits when Andy took delight in identifying himself as a "monster."  I hope he stays a while so he can stay playing the two alliances.  

[rmontro]

11 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

I wasn't surprised that Ashley I went home.  The other contestants probably don't really know who she is and she didn't seem to seemlessly blend into the group. 

It crossed my mind that the others didn't think she was a "real" celebrity so cast her out.  I admit I got distracted during the mission, so I don't know if she did a good job or not.  It does appear Paul was working hard though, and he was in the bottom two.  It appeared to have something to do with Cat Cora sealing holes in the habitat with some sort of cake frosting.

 

11 hours ago, snarts said:

While I agree with Marshawn's concerns with having either of them be Base Commander. I side eye his only bringing it up once Ariel won the vote. Before that, he was all in on Lance.

I might agree with you, except Ariel has stayed behind numerous times functioning as the #2 in command (can't remember what that spot is called, mission specialist or something?).  Lance hasn't had a chance to stay behind once so far.

[Grizzly]

On 7/18/2023 at 7:51 PM, rmontro said:

I might agree with you, except Ariel has stayed behind numerous times functioning as the #2 in command (can't remember what that spot is called, mission specialist or something?).  Lance hasn't had a chance to stay behind once so far.

Lance has said he doesn't want to stay behind. He likes getting outside.

[KeithJ]

So last week Randy couldn't be the base commander because he was the new guy but this week he can when probably only a day has gone by in the game?  Makes no sense to me (last week's reasoning made no sense either).

Ronda (and Lance a few weeks ago) show why these celebrity shows really don't work.  They're not playing for anything so as soon as they feel homesick they can just basically quit.

[snarts]

Rhonda wanting to leave seemingly came out of the blue, didn't it?  Sadly, it coincided with the appearance of her personality.  It was nice to finally see her smile & laugh.

Wow, Cat sure is pissed. I didn't expect that. Of course Andy is going to try to curry favor with the OGs. He didn't want to be their target. There was no danger that Cat would be sent home, so why is she so mad?

I think the reason why this show isn't as fun and entertaining as it could be is that they cast way competitive people alongside those who are there for fun/an appearance fee. The rules are vague and it's becoming a popularity contest. I wish they didn't do the voting off thing and instead had the mission "loser(s)" get some stupid penalty but still stay.

Sadly, the campy fun of the first few episodes is gone and it's become just another Big Brother.

[rmontro]

I don't blame Cat and Paul for being angry about being in the bottom three.  Adam talked Andy out of putting his allies in the bottom three, so this was all social game.  Which is smart, I suppose, if you want to win, but I don't find it entertaining.  Seems much more fair to choose on merit alone.

They were saved by Ronda volunteering to leave.  It's disappointing to see someone quit, no matter what the reason.  I have similar feelings here as I do when contestants on Alone quit - if you have a baby that you need to attend to, why do the show in the first place?  Shame to see her go though, since it appeared she was playing the game well.  She's leaving Marshawn Lynch in a bit of a hole.

[LakeGal]

I am getting really sick of both Adam and Ariel.  I would be happy if there could be a week where neither is safe and has to actually do something.  They are always protected.  Adam really does nothing.  

[rmontro]

49 minutes ago, LakeGal said:

I am getting really sick of both Adam and Ariel.  I would be happy if there could be a week where neither is safe and has to actually do something.  They are always protected.  Adam really does nothing.  

I'm with you there, but they appear to be pretty safe because they seem to have the strongest alliance.

[SHERMDOG]

I like Adam...I know I'm in the minority tho. Haha...Lance is the one I'm kind of surprised is such a baby!! Crickeys! As far as Ronda is concerned, I really like her. Maybe she signed up not really realizing  HOW much she would miss her baby? I can see where once you are cooped up your brain works differe.t??

[Johannah]

On 7/25/2023 at 11:12 AM, snarts said:

...

Sadly, the campy fun of the first few episodes is gone and it's become just another Big Brother.

I noticed that I hadn't been enjoying it as much and just thought the novelty had worn off, but I think you nailed it.  It's devolved into the petty alliance/friendship cliques like other reality shows.  😞

22 hours ago, LakeGal said:

I am getting really sick of both Adam and Ariel.  I would be happy if there could be a week where neither is safe and has to actually do something.  They are always protected.  Adam really does nothing.  

I haven't cared for Adam since his "keep me because I'm beautiful" campaign - especially because I don't find him attractive (or maybe I don't because of his personality) and I liked Ariel at first, but now I'm not sure.  I agree with some things she says, but, I don't know, maybe it's the way she says them?

So sorry that Andy was totally swayed by Adam in deciding bottom 3.  I have no respect for him now.  

[rmontro]

1 minute ago, Johannah said:

I haven't cared for Adam since his "keep me because I'm beautiful" campaign - especially because I don't find him attractive

I've never cared for that kind of overconfident, narcissistic attitude.  He could be overcompensating for something though, you never know.  

 

1 minute ago, Johannah said:

So sorry that Andy was totally swayed by Adam in deciding bottom 3.  I have no respect for him now.  

Andy totally got hoodwinked by Adam, and I half suspect he knows it but went along anyway, in order to ingratiate himself to the alliance.  It's also possible that Ronda leaving was more of a done deal going into the mission than we were led to believe.

[Johannah]

31 minutes ago, rmontro said:

I've never cared for that kind of overconfident, narcissistic attitude.  He could be overcompensating for something though, you never know.  

 

Andy totally got hoodwinked by Adam, and I half suspect he knows it but went along anyway, in order to ingratiate himself to the alliance.  It's also possible that Ronda leaving was more of a done deal going into the mission than we were led to believe.

I hate the move so much, I'm not willing to believe he knew he was hoodwinked, but I agree he wanted to play with the self-proclaimed "cool kids".

[Madding crowd]

In the first couple episodes, it did seem like a few people weren’t working as hard and deserved to go but now everything is assigned by the base commander and the stars do what they are told. How do you decide? Even the previous episode with Ashely I: I can’t stand her but if she was assigned to put her finger in that hole she was following the same order’s as everyone else.

Still don’t like Adam, Ariel or Portia who have appointed themselves the cool team. They and Tinase will be the last ones left and I still haven’t seen any of them do any hard work.

Edited July 28, 2023 by Madding crowd

[Grizzly]

I don't dislike Adam but he was the most useless person in that challenge. Andy read out all the directions that the mission specialist usually does. Adam should have been eligible for elimination. Rhonda made the whole thing moot.

[jabRI]

I don't understand..  when Andy was talking about the song team, he didnt mention Ariel as possibly going home.  She contributed nothing, handed over a few sticky notes.

[eel2178]

Just in case:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/happens-someone-dies-space-122325613.html

[Johannah]

7 hours ago, eel2178 said:

Just in case:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/happens-someone-dies-space-122325613.html

That's a lot of hogwash.  As we've learned from this very educational show, they will just send a shuttle for the body. Obviously, they would no longer be mission critical.   Duh.

😁

Edited August 1, 2023 by Johannah

[Grizzly]

The Lance/Ariel feud seems to have been put on the back burner. And Cat was able to get her revenge on Andy. So let's start something between Marshawn and Porsha. 3 people voted for Cat-Ariel, Lance and Andy. 2 voted for Porsha-Adam and Tinashe. Marshawn voted for Lance, so Paul voted for himself. For that, I would have voted him out.

[seacliffsal]

Although I think Cora wanted revenge on Andy, he really was annoying while on the mission.  Overtalking, joking, etc.  Yes, I know this is just a silly little show, but the participants are expected to play along with it.  

I kind of thought that they should have had the participants just follow the hoses back to the original location, but they way they did it worked-but barely within the time frame.  I enjoyed the surprise second half of the mission as they were taking it fairly easy thinking they had it all wrapped up and then BAM! there was another mission.

I think Ariel has a bit of entitlement going on as she was seriously surprised she wasn't immediately chosen to be mission specialist.  She has been getting a bit of a cushy ride as she has been mission specialist more than anyone else, so I'm glad she had to go out and participate on the mission.

Oh, and shallow note, but I really liked Porshia's real hair-it looks totally sophisicated IMO.  

[milkyaqua]

I turned this off once they were all back in the airlock.  Not sorry to see Andy gone  because he was annoying with all his talking.

I agree with the Ariel thinks she's entitled and Adam can get on that train as well.

I can see Portia thinking it was her time to be BC but oh well.  She at least lived to try another day...

[ladle]

On 7/18/2023 at 12:46 PM, milkyaqua said:

I think Lance and Ariel both have issues as far as this competition goes.  But it does seem some of the males have easily bruised egos.  I wonder how long it will be until one of the newer additions is voted base commander.  So long Ashley (I'm amazed at all the makeup some of the contestants brought with them).

I remain confused about the root of Ariel and Lance’s conflict. I know they disagreed about trans athletes but there wasn’t a ton of overt conflict over that, that we saw. Then later Lance told the newcomers something like, “It was really bad - we were ready to rip each other’s faces off” (paraphrasing) Was there an altercation that we didn’t see? Very confusing. 

[milkyaqua]

Who knows if there was an actual altercation (I think if there had been, one or both would have been asked to leave).  I know these types of shows edit and also encourage contestants to say or do things on camera and a lot of it we never see or hear about due to NDAs.