S01E17: The First Date Is the Deepest

[The Crazed Spruce]

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Margaret helps a client who lost his mother during a routine surgery at Allison's hospital; Margaret and Gus go on their first date; Todd is asked by the firm to investigate Gus.

 

[AnimeMania]

Next New Episode: April 27, 2023
Kareem Malcolm as Kyle
       

Alison Wandzura as Helen Gallagher
Benjamin Hollingsworth as Dr. Ross Woods
Andrew Duff as Ryan 

[MerBearHou]

Lyle and Kyle!  Funny.  I’m glad they’ve made Lyle more of a teammate and Todd and he aren’t so spiteful to each other.  They’re both good at what they do.  

[twoods]

Figured they would keep Ben Hollingsworth for more than an episode since he’s pretty recognizable. Wondering where poor Chuck is, but this is the first episode I found Allison enjoyable in so maybe she will finally not be written as a sad Eeyore. Her refusing to get grilled by her mother in court was hilarious. 

[shapeshifter]

36 minutes ago, twoods said:

this is the first episode I found Allison enjoyable in so maybe she will finally not be written as a sad Eeyore.

Allison is still “a sad Eeyore” to me.

They sure telegraphed the sociopathic killer to the audience. 

[AnimeMania]

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

They sure telegraphed the sociopathic killer to the audience. 

You mean "Murderbot 6000"?

[shapeshifter]

3 hours ago, AnimeMania said:

You mean "Murderbot 6000"?

That too.
But I meant the humanoid one.

[iMonrey]

This is such a silly show but I love it. No way the defense attorney's daughter could be used as a witness. It was such a kangaroo courtroom scene, Allison acting like a petulant child and Margaret telling her "You'll testify when I tell you to young lady!" LOL. Also got a huge kick out of Kyle and Lyle.

I wonder  . . . if Margaret is passed over for partner in her firm, maybe she will start her own firm, and take Todd with her, along with Lyle (and Kyle?). And maybe Susan. I think that might be fun. Maybe they'd even pull Allison in as medical consultant or something. The show seems to struggle a bit incorporating Allison into the show, IMO.

I doubt we've seen the last of Gus.

I recognized the actor who played Dr. Woods from Virgin River. I wonder if he'll be a new love interest for Allison.

[MerBearHou]

One of my favorite older rom-coms is "Chances Are".  In it, Ryan O'Neal appears in a short, ladies bathrobe.  My eyes almost popped out when the show said that Gus looked like Ryan O'Neal in that pink bathrobe -- super obscure reference and as a Chances Are major-fan, I loved that little sly line.

[AncientNewbie]

The legal stuff was so spectacularly bad I think I blacked out for a moment. 

During my unconsciousness, I wondered if Eliza Coupe's character might be an older one of her one from Scrubs, putting these in the same universe. 

On coming to, I enjoyed Allison having something to do, the Kyle/Lyle gag was cute, and we got more development on the implausible name partner chase as Todd fell into the web of the clearly evil senior partner. If the show would just stay out of the court room it would improve so much, though. 

[shapeshifter]

49 minutes ago, AncientNewbie said:

The legal stuff was so spectacularly bad I think I blacked out for a moment. 

Heh. I momentarily wondered if the Night Court writers had swapped places for this episode for April Fools Day. 
But, IMO, Marcia Gay Harden had the acting chops to deliver the ridiculousness of it.
And so many other dramedies are too short on the comedy.

Edited April 14, 2023 by shapeshifter

[Sarah 103]

I can't be more specific, but sometimes it feels like the show operates on Scooby-Doo logic, and I'm also loving it. The show is stupid silly fun, and I'm okay with that.

I enjoyed Margaret's love story and I hope they can make the relationship work. 

[funnygirl]

The only thing I don't particularly like about the show is the will they-won't they anvil for Todd and Susan. I don't think there's much chemistry there or that they make a good match. I wish the show would let that go. 

[Daff]

4 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I wonder  . . . if Margaret is passed over for partner in her firm, maybe she will start her own firm, and take Todd with her, along with Lyle (and Kyle?). And maybe Susan. I think that might be fun. Maybe they'd even pull Allison in as medical consultant or something.

That’s a really good idea, and I did think about her striking out on her own, but there are a couple of problems. First, not having made partner, she has no chops to draw clients. Second, I don’t see Lyle coming along on such a risky venture. Third, I’m not sure she has the capital to do that. But my Pollyanna loves the idea.

[Daff]

4 hours ago, iMonrey said:

doubt we've seen the last of Gus.

I think she knee-jerked at the revelations on the date. Damn Todd’s impulsive need for NOW! He could have waited until the date was over. I believe her fears of “as MY boss” were unfounded. He’s obviously not into work power struggles,  but she sees that as totally alien, where men are concerned, so doesn’t trust him.

 

4 hours ago, iMonrey said:

recognized the actor who played Dr. Woods from Virgin River.

He and MGH were both main characters in “Code Black”.  I knew as soon as I saw his face that she’d save him.

[twoods]

Yes they were in Code Black together! I loved that show. 

[Daff]

I have to say that of all the episodes so far, this is my fave. When I saw the trailers during the last week, I couldn’t help but think they are trying to project a “Sarandon”-like character (The Client), where she jumps in to help the downtrodden. If she makes partner, she’ll end up with clients she doesn’t necessarily want to defend. (Careful what you wish for.)

Just now, twoods said:

Yes they were in Code Black together! I loved that show. 

Of all the cancellations that broke my heart, that was THE worst. What an ensemble!

[howiveaddict]

I normally don't watch medical shows because of something I call "bad medicine".  The implausibility of the medical scenes.  Tonight I noted that there is no way they would allow all the courtroom into an operating room, without having at least foot wear and masks on.  At most scrubs also. That is a clean area and street gear is not allowed for  a purpose.  

Also the law aspect was ridiculous also, but show are the law and order franchises lately.  

[shapeshifter]

10 minutes ago, howiveaddict said:

Also the law aspect was ridiculous also, but [so] are the law and order franchises lately.  

This episode's courtroom scenes make a terrific spoof of the L&O reboot.

[kirinan]

Dear show runners:

First, PLEASE stop trying to make Todd and Susan happen. I'm usually all over a love story, but this is not it. Todd had way more chemistry with the podcast host.

Second, please do NOT mess up Margaret and Gus; I love those two together.

Third, I would be all in for Kyle coming on board to torment Todd, too. 

Thank you for your consideration.

Oh, and P.S. Fourth, as ridiculous and unrealistic as the legal and medical stuff was, I really enjoyed this episode.

[Bobbin]

5 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

And so many other dramedies are too short on the comedy

"Todd" borders on slapstick. Thank God no one uses laugh tracks anymore to make sure you know what was supposed to be funny.

[KaveDweller]

I can't believe any doctor would murder multiple patients just to get promoted to Chief of Surgery.

I know TV shows aren't realistic, but I feel like the law stuff is so dumb on this show it makes Margaret seem like a bad lawyer.

[Johannah]

On 4/14/2023 at 11:22 AM, iMonrey said:

.  . . . if Margaret is passed over for partner in her firm, maybe she will start her own firm, and take Todd with her, along with Lyle (and Kyle?). And maybe Susan. I think that might be fun. Maybe they'd even pull Allison in as medical consultant or something. The show seems to struggle a bit incorporating Allison into the show, IMO.

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So... the same show without the boss?

 

I like the silliness, too.  As I've said about other shows, realism isn't a huge factor for me.  Just entertain me.

[tvfanatic13]

Margaret is already a partner at the firm. She wants to be a named partner. Not every partner is in the name (in a bigger firm which this one seems to be). 

[MaryMitch]

Agree that this episode was the best yet! 

And on a shallow note, Marcia Gay Harden looked really pretty in all her scenes.

[South]

On 4/14/2023 at 11:02 PM, KaveDweller said:

I can't believe any doctor would murder multiple patients just to get promoted to Chief of Surgery.

I know TV shows aren't realistic, but I feel like the law stuff is so dumb on this show it makes Margaret seem like a bad lawyer.

I snicker a bit each time I’m reminded that the show is listed under drama, but I love it!