Current Plots Discussion II: Discussing Today's Episode and Current Storylines

[brisbydog]

6 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

That scene today in the Square with Susan spazzing, Gabi yelling and Kat going bug-eyed is exactly the kind of stuff I hope disappears once Ron's work is finished on...Thursday is it?

I heard we get the new team on the 24th, right?

Tomorrow!!

[DisneyBoy]

Well...that was certainly a bright start!

Loved the colors for the street fair and the idea of having Gabi spend thousands just to make JJ jealous. Otherwise it looked like the fairbwiuos have raised about 12$ for the hospital.

Plus, it was a clever flex: Gabi not only makes JJ jealous but shows off her wealth, further embarrassing him.

Love JJ, though, so he has my sympathies.

Thomas and Charlotte are perfection. So nice to see talented kids playing normal children - who are usually so absent in the world of Salem.

Why does Chad always look happiest in makeup or disguises? If we had to suffer through Body & Soul, can Chad at least go out for a part in a touring production of CATS? I'd watch the hell out of thar storyline! 😄

Xander has no business attending community events in the town square. That doesn't sit right with me. Kinda wish wed found another use for him today.

Kayla's a lousy auctioneer 😄

Why am I feeling like RSW suggested/requested his plotline in this episode? The compliments and flattery were excessive. No, he's not worth 15K.

On the plus side, Stephanie of all people finally showed signs of a personality! Huh. Maybe the new writers relate to her. She's the last character I'm concerned about, but still...

Decent start. Kat is still out of place though. ALMC just plays psychos better I think.

[brisbydog]

Ron tropes:

Xander and Alex shirtless: Check
Alex auctioned like piece of meat: Check
Leo and his boyfriend salivating over straight men: Check
Leo suggesting said straight man if purchased could enjoy a 3way: Check
Stupid dream fake out: Check
Xander acts stupid: Check

Bring on the new writers!

Edit: Attendee/Organizer of fundraiser Xander/Chad could each save the hospital by writing a personal cheque and still have money left over but plot requirements trope common sense!

[rcc]

Too much Leo and Alex for me. FF 98 percent of this. Lol

[brisbydog]

1 hour ago, rcc said:

Too much Leo and Alex for me. FF 98 percent of this. Lol

I am truly shocked Ron didn't go out on them planning a date and fulfilling all his fantasies 

[CanaryFan98]

5 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Well...that was certainly a bright start!

Loved the colors for the street fair and the idea of having Gabi spend thousands just to make JJ jealous. Otherwise it looked like the fairbwiuos have raised about 12$ for the hospital.

Plus, it was a clever flex: Gabi not only makes JJ jealous but shows off her wealth, further embarrassing him.

Love JJ, though, so he has my sympathies.

Thomas and Charlotte are perfection. So nice to see talented kids playing normal children - who are usually so absent in the world of Salem.

Why does Chad always look happiest in makeup or disguises? If we had to suffer through Body & Soul, can Chad at least go out for a part in a touring production of CATS? I'd watch the hell out of thar storyline! 😄

Xander has no business attending community events in the town square. That doesn't sit right with me. Kinda wish wed found another use for him today.

Kayla's a lousy auctioneer 😄

Why am I feeling like RSW suggested/requested his plotline in this episode? The compliments and flattery were excessive. No, he's not worth 15K.

On the plus side, Stephanie of all people finally showed signs of a personality! Huh. Maybe the new writers relate to her. She's the last character I'm concerned about, but still...

Decent start. Kat is still out of place though. ALMC just plays psychos better I think.

JJ comes from a rich family so I don't think he's that embarrassed or should be anyways.

I agree about Thomas/Charlotte I hope that they buck the trend and we can watch these kids grow up in real time(as long as Days still exists).

[brisbydog]

7 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

 

Xander has no business attending community events in the town square. That doesn't sit right with me. Kinda wish wed found another use for him today

Why? He probably is a high level donator and he's no less a reformed criminal than anyone else in town.

[DisneyBoy]

Yeah, but he....shot Marlena there during her last huge wedding to John.

That's pretty unforgivable.

 

...or was it Clyde? No, Clyde shot Abe. Right?

It's getting harder to remember LOL.

[brisbydog]

13 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Yeah, but he....shot Marlena there during her last huge wedding to John.

That's pretty unforgivable.

 

...or was it Clyde? No, Clyde shot Abe. Right?

It's getting harder to remember LOL.

Marlena wasn't even there today. Besides he was aiming at Eric.

He did run into Marlena in the Square at Eli and Lani's wedding and she scolded him then so all resolved.

Edited April 24 by brisbydog

[DisneyBoy]

16 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

He did run into Marlena in the Square at Eli and Lani's wedding and she scolded him then so all resolved.

Not in my book! 😄 You don't get to shoot the star actress, Hollywood Walk Of Fame Icon and then just...just....buy hot dogs!! Not in MYYYY Salem!!! *morphs into Paulina Price*

How did the episode end by the way? I saw Sarah apologize to Philip but missed the rest.

[HelenCrump]

5 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

 

How did the episode end by the way? I saw Sarah apologize to Philip but missed the rest.

Sarah apologized to Philip while Xander lurked in the background, watching with suspicion.

[brisbydog]

13 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Not in my book! 😄 You don't get to shoot the star actress, Hollywood Walk Of Fame Icon and then just...just....buy hot dogs!! Not in MYYYY Salem!!! *morphs into Paulina Price*

How did the episode end by the way? I saw Sarah apologize to Philip but missed the rest.

I'm not a Marlena fan so I don't care. He has every right to buy hot dogs. If Marlena can embrace Ben after what he did to Paige then a stray bullet is no biggie

Sarah apologized. They both vocalized that Sarah knew. Xander was seen lurking with the hot dogs and we were supposed to think he overheard.

 

 

[boes]

I'm taking a break from Show for a while.  Yesterday, and today, I read what Show was going to be about and who was going to be featured and I just couldn't do it. 

I'm sure I'll tune in again sooner rather than later but right now it's just too annoying and boring at the same time to bother with.  I'll be checking in to see what you all have to say because there's no way I can quit you guys, ever.

Edited April 24 by boes

[brisbydog]

20 minutes ago, boes said:

I'm taking a break from Show for a while.  Yesterday, and today, I read what Show was going to be about and who was going to be featured and I just couldn't do it. 

I'm sure I'll tune in again sooner rather than later bur right now it's just too annoying and boring at the same time to bother with.  I'll be checking in to see what you all have to say because there's no way I can quit you guys, ever.

But tomorrow is the dawn of a new Ron free era!

[Giuseppe]

Is it weird that I thought Chad looked really cute in the rainbow tiger make-up? Lol.

I was kinda underwhelmed by the fundraising stuff. They kept talking about the huge turnout, but it looked more like the last hour of the event when most people have gone home already. I know extras cost money that's not in the budget anymore, but I miss the days when the show would have TONS of extras for stuff like this and it would really help make the show feel alive. 

EDIT: I thought today started the new writing regime. Is it tomorrow?

Edited April 24 by Giuseppe

[TimsLove25]

On 4/21/2025 at 10:01 AM, norcalgal said:

Haven’t seen today’s episode yet, but I hope that in the process of faking their united front, they actually rediscover the brotherly bond they genuinely felt before the forged letter revelation.  Heck - this is a constant trope in romantic comedies - male and female characters fake a relationship which later becomes a real romance.  So why not do this with a sibling relationship?  😁

The  whole fallout with them has rom com feels, and I'm not mad at it. They've had a break up. Now we need a missing each other montage and then "pretending" trope of them being a United Front, up to and including the part where Phillip's fraud is made public, and Phillip decides to leave town...only to have Xander stop him at the airport. No, I'm not kidding.

[DisneyBoy]

10 hours ago, Giuseppe said:

EDIT: I thought today started the new writing regime. Is it tomorrow?

Yeah now I'm confused too.

11 hours ago, boes said:

I'm taking a break from Show for a while. 

I saw this coming...but it still makes me sad :( We need you to help us assess the changes, both good and bad, that the new regime implements.

But not at the cost of your happiness, of course.

You tell it like it is. And make me guffaw loudly in spite of myself.

10 hours ago, Giuseppe said:

I know extras cost money that's not in the budget anymore, but I miss the days when the show would have TONS of extras for stuff like this and it would really help make the show feel alive. 

100%. There weren't even other kids there.

8 hours ago, TimsLove25 said:

The  whole fallout with them has rom com feels

Interesting take. I like it!

12 hours ago, brisbydog said:

If Marlena can embrace Ben after what he did to Paige then a stray bullet is no biggie

As Don Draper once said, you'll be shocked how much that didn't happen. At least in my head.

Truly, I try not to think about those dark days. The Ben worship made no sense.

[ASpring1900]

12 hours ago, Giuseppe said:

I was kinda underwhelmed by the fundraising stuff. They kept talking about the huge turnout, but it looked more like the last hour of the event when most people have gone home already.

They had the "background crowd" noise amped high up, though. Sometimes it was hard to hear the dialogue over it (I was watching with headphones, so maybe that distorted the sound).

[Giuseppe]

40 minutes ago, ASpring1900 said:

They had the "background crowd" noise amped high up, though. Sometimes it was hard to hear the dialogue over it (I was watching with headphones, so maybe that distorted the sound).

Maybe, because I also said to myself that the background noise wasn't even very loud, lol.

Saw on the DAYS Facebook page that the new writer episodes definitely start today, so I'm looking forward to watching this evening.

Edited April 24 by Giuseppe

[brisbydog]

I found it strangely poignant to see Rachel with her former fake parents. I think with female writers in charge they may explore Sarah's complicated bond with that child. Ron never cared, Sarah literally handed her BABY away to Kristen and then moved on to making Xander jealous with Brady. I did like new Rachel a lot, but it wasn't a really jarring recast, especially since we have not seen the character since February.

I wonder what Kristen was going to offer Xander? I wish he had let her make her pitch.

Maggie bidding on Chad to save him from an awkward date was so precious. I hope they bring the kids along to soothe Charlotte's worries.

God, Cat is twitchy.

Why on earth is Ava in a Tibetan Monastery?

Kayla with EJ was good; she hates him but she also has empathy, and I liked his reaction to knowing Sami was there.

Do we believe a newer, kinder EJ is really on offer? And will he listen to that recording device before Rafe ever gets around to it?

[CanaryFan98]

I think EJ will be empathetic to a point. I personally think Little Rachel shot him and I see EJ protecting her. However he also won't be above using it to his advantage also if needed.

Speaking of Kayla this was a good day for her. I thought her scenes were the best she got a POV(her valid reasons for despising EJ), and interacted with characters that this show seems to forget she's connected to(JJ namely). Maggie talking about how important she is for the hospital was quite poignant as well. The only thing missing was her interacting with Steve and it feels like months.

I mean it's only the first day but there seems to be a bit more nuance and acknowledgement of ties we always mention are ignored and shouldn't be. 

Edited April 25 by CanaryFan98

[DisneyBoy]

8 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Why on earth is Ava in a Tibetan Monastery?

Yeah. That was Ron Corny.

8 hours ago, brisbydog said:

And will he listen to that recording device before Rafe ever gets around to it?

For real - what's taking Rafe so long? Give the tape to JJ to listen to FFS.

8 hours ago, brisbydog said:

God, Cat is twitchy.

Yeah, she's grating on my nerves.

8 hours ago, brisbydog said:

I did like new Rachel a lot, but it wasn't a really jarring recast, especially since we have not seen the character since February.

No way...didn't we see her like, 4 weeks ago at the most?

Anyway I also like the new girl and she looked and sounded a bit like the original,  too. Good casting.

Maggie saving Chad and making a huge donation was awesome. So sweet.

[BuckeyeLou]

Thought this was a good show to end the week:  A lot of intense, personal scenes.  So, who has the missing memory card?!  Does EJ think Belle put it there & is still lying to him?  Is EJ pretending to be a "kinder, nicer person"?  I was sad during the break-up scenes between Rafe & Jada...it was a very adult civilized conversation, but I felt bad for both of them.  Will Rafe really take the FBI job?  I always like the sibling bond between Rafe & Gabi(both Gabis), I got a kick out of Brady reminding Gabi of what she did to him!   As for yesterday's show, I was happy to see the new Rachel, she is cute & was very natural on-screen.  I am glad the show remembered the bond between Rachel & Sarah.  Kristen looked like she was wearing a very sexy lingerie, not appropriate for a family gathering!  I laughed when Kristen threw her drink on Xander & he Had to take his shirt off!  Maggie bidding a Million dollars for a 'date" with Chad was funny. Thomas & Charlotte were cute & got some lines, but gads, the actress who plays Catt waves her head around so much & makes strange faces & acts like she is 16 years old, its very distracting.  

[norcalgal]

25 minutes ago, BuckeyeLou said:

the break-up scenes between Rafe & Jada...it was a very adult civilized conversation, but I felt bad for both of them. 

Yeah, the highlight of today’s episode was the mature, honest conversation between two adults ending their relationship. Very adult of both of them, but sheeeesh, Galen Garing just canNOT elevate his acting ability, can he?  At best, his reaction was as though finding out he lost a sock in the dryer.  

[DaphneCat]

1 hour ago, BuckeyeLou said:

Is EJ pretending to be a "kinder, nicer person"?

Yeah, so far, I'm not buying it and I'm not sure I actually like it.  It's one thing to try and redeem someone, it's another entirely to have him become a completely different person.  "Good" EJ could very easily become sanctimonious and REALLY boring.

[Retired at last]

On 4/24/2025 at 6:23 AM, DisneyBoy said:

f Marlena can embrace Ben after what he did to Paige then a stray bullet is no biggie

What about what he did to her own grandson, Will?

I think EJ is going to fake a nicer, gentler EJ. But, didn't he already start lying? Seems like I remember reading that in a recap. I think he is lying to protect Rachel, but I also think he will let Kristen take the blame.

It seems like the whole "who shot EJ?" story is already lame. He woke up in about 2 hours, they haven't even started arresting innocent people yet, and the vast majority of the viewers already think we know who did the shooting. I wonder if they filmed all of the people who had a motive to shoot him and we may eventually see those clips?

And, come on - Rafe never thought to look for the thumb drive and EJ has it??? Was Rafe a favorite of Ron, because he isn't getting any decent stories now?

[brisbydog]

Long day and watched this one late, my thoughts:

EJ is faking being nice I think. He is going to use his new persona to try to get Johnny's forgiveness, and I noted he did not say he loved Belle back. He totally thinks she planted the recording device. I also don't think he was sorry at all that Shawn overheard Belle confessing her love.

Rafe is such a bore. He couldn't even squeeze out a little bit of emotion while being dumped. Fly Free Jada, and enjoy hunky Shawn. I'm excited that we are getting a Bo mention.

I loved that Brady was very clear on the takeover being something Victor would have wanted. It should never be forgotten that he is also a Kiriakis and he was very close to Victor. I am glad to see Gabi suffer under the takeover, and that Brady remembered her awful use of Rachel to get the Dimera shares, but it has only been a day, and Xander has spent most of it in his living room or at the fun fair, how much torture can he have inflicted on Gabi Chic in that time frame?

Belle and Johnny was lovely. I am already appreciating the new writers putting characters together who are family but who Ron never bothered to show any connections. I am glad that the inevitable Sarah and Xander split will be written by adults, and even better, their path back together by writers who care about human emotions and not just plot driven drivel.

I hope Bo wakes up still a bit Bo Kiriakis and wants to work with his little brothers. That would be fun. For me anyway.

[norcalgal]

32 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

EJ is faking being nice I think. He is going to use his new persona to try to get Johnny's forgiveness, and I noted he did not say he loved Belle back. He totally thinks she planted the recording device

Co-signed. I agree with the above, especially regarding Belle. It’s just the look on his face when they showed the flashback to him finding the recording device, and then immediately transitioning to him looking at Belle. Suspicious…

32 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

I hope Bo wakes up still a bit Bo Kiriakis and wants to work with his little brothers.

?  I don’t remember Bo ever being interested in Titan. Are you saying you’d like Bo to work at Titan, or work with his bros in some other way?

Edited April 26 by norcalgal

[brisbydog]

Just now, norcalgal said:

Co-signed. I agree with the above, especially regarding Belle. It’s just the look on his face when they showed the flashback to him finding the recording device, and then immediately transitioning to him looking at Belle. Suspicious…

?  I don’t remember Bo ever being interested in Titan. Are you saying Bo you’d like Bo to work at Titan, or work with his bros in some other way?

The Bo two years ago wanted to be Victor. I'd like if he still had that edge. But mainly I want to see him interact with Xander and Philip 

[norcalgal]

1 minute ago, brisbydog said:

The Bo two years ago wanted to be Victor. I'd like if he still had that edge. But mainly I want to see him interact with Xander and Philip 

Oh yeah, the Bo who came out of cryogenics had a personality transplant. I didn’t feel he was the “real” Bo we saw for decades on Days. 
But yeah, it’ll be interesting to see how he interacts with Xander and Philip. 

[salvame]

Oh bother. I just realized that if EJ spotted the hidden recorder and removed the micro chip, there is actually no recording of who shot him. 

[Rodney]

Catching up with the week.

On Tuesday's episode, I couldn't believe that Gabi was actually friendly with Cat, given her cold behavior told her during the Vancouver scenes.  When she did become okay with her?

[brisbydog]

10 hours ago, salvame said:

Oh bother. I just realized that if EJ spotted the hidden recorder and removed the micro chip, there is actually no recording of who shot him. 

He has a red herring recording of someone I bet. Roman or Johnny. 

[chediavolo]

On 4/25/2025 at 2:49 PM, BuckeyeLou said:

Thought this was a good show to end the week:  A lot of intense, personal scenes.  So, who has the missing memory card?!  Does EJ think Belle put it there & is still lying to him?  Is EJ pretending to be a "kinder, nicer person"?  I was sad during the break-up scenes between Rafe & Jada...it was a very adult civilized conversation, but I felt bad for both of them.  Will Rafe really take the FBI job?  I always like the sibling bond between Rafe & Gabi(both Gabis), I got a kick out of Brady reminding Gabi of what she did to him!   As for yesterday's show, I was happy to see the new Rachel, she is cute & was very natural on-screen.  I am glad the show remembered the bond between Rachel & Sarah.  Kristen looked like she was wearing a very sexy lingerie, not appropriate for a family gathering!  I laughed when Kristen threw her drink on Xander & he Had to take his shirt off!  Maggie bidding a Million dollars for a 'date" with Chad was funny. Thomas & Charlotte were cute & got some lines, but gads, the actress who plays Catt waves her head around so much & makes strange faces & acts like she is 16 years old, its very distracting.  

Kristin needs some undergarments especially a bra. I mean she looks fantastic but she’s not 25 anymore.

[brisbydog]

 I can feel the difference with the writing. My Steve and Kayla are back, family members are connecting in realistic ways, everybody feels real again. Very excited with the new writers. I know they are wrapping up tired Ron plots but as long as they are doing it with quality, character driven writing I am thrilled.

[CanaryFan98]

Yes I really enjoyed the references to history although it did make me want ice cream afterwards(I've been good and not indulged but still).

[DisneyBoy]

I've always enjoyed Bo so please don't hate me for saying this...

I am *so* tired of him dangling above the jaws of death. Kayla sounded absolutely moronic today panicking about sepsis and then saying the clunkiest dialogue: "oh gee golly wait...I FORGOT about that unnamed doctor on my staff making a drug for exactly this situation!" 🙄

Lady, if that was the situation it would have instantly popped into your head! Come on! Yeesh, writers.

...and didn't we hear that Bo was awake and slowly recovering like months ago? I seem to recall dialogue to that affect from Hope.

We already had him seriously ill for the 50th. Now again for the 60th.

...we gonna be doing this again for the 70th too?

Realistically, wouldn't there be enough drama in Bo just going through physio after months in a coma and years fozen in a tube? Does he have to wake up only after "dying" dramatically again, and then somehow be 100% fine and walking and talking?

Remember when John left town with Doc 15 years ago or so? He came back in a wheelchair because it had taken like two whole years to get his strength back. That was cool and believable.

This....is not.

But at least ShawnD almost cried today, so that's a plus. Haven't seem him act that convincingly in a long while.

[norcalgal]

5 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

But at least ShawnD almost cried today, so that's a plus. Haven't seem him act that convincingly in a long while.

Sorry but all I could focus on was how red/flushed his face and neck looked!  Why was it that color?!

[Soapy Goddess]

2 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

.and didn't we hear that Bo was awake and slowly recovering like months ago? I seem to recall dialogue to that affect from Hope.

We already had him seriously ill for the 50th. Now again for the 60th.

...we gonna be doing this again for the 70th too?

I agree, but here's the thing...Peter Reckell does NOT want to act any longer. So it's up to the writers to figure out how to keep him "alive" when PR doesn't want any part of it. 

[DisneyBoy]

1 hour ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I agree, but here's the thing...Peter Reckell does NOT want to act any longer. So it's up to the writers to figure out how to keep him "alive" when PR doesn't want any part of it. 

But then why does he keep coming back? He claimed to want Bo killed off, sure, and that that's the reason he returned for the 50th. But then, he came back after that for a reunion with Hope....and then again for Beyond Salem, to be dragged out of heaven and placed in a tube...and now he's back again!

His original vague exit really messed things up for his costar KA and then his 50th return messed things up for her AND her new love interest. PR has never addressed this and doesn't seem to care how his leaving made KA's situation precarious. Sure, some of that is on the writers, but people wanted Bo and Hope too....not just Hope.

It really seems like this is all about attention and hoopla...and money. I bet if they offered him his late 90s salary, he'd be back in a flash.

If he didn't want to act, Bo's original death would have 100% sufficed. But he keeps returning, and only with big hoopla surrounding him. And only for short stints, meaning his asking price is big.

Doesn't paint a great picture.

 

Edited April 29 by DisneyBoy

[Soapy Goddess]

3 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

But then why does he keep coming back? He claimed to want Bo killed off, sure, and that that's the reason he returned for the 50th. But then, he came back after that for a reunion with Hope....and then again for Beyond Salem, to be dragged out of heaven and placed in a tube...and now he's back again!

His original vague exit really messed things up for his costar KA and then his 50th return messed things up for her AND her new love interest.

it really seems like this is all about attention and hoopla...and money. I bet if they offered him his late 90s salary, he'd be back in a flash.

If he didn't want to act, Bo's original death would have sufficed. But he keeps returning, and only with big hoopla surrounding him. And only for short stints, meaning his asking price is big.

Doesn't paint a great picture.

 

Also agree with your assessment. My guess is that PR would prefer a "recurring" role similar to the character of Orpheus. 

Peter probably wanted to return for the 50th because it was a milestone for the show (photos & all). Same with Beyond Salem and launch at Peacock.

Yes, he messed things up for KA, but at the end of the day, that was his choice. 

That said, I believe "Soaps" or SOD said that fans with soon have the "closure" they want/need for Bo Brady...whatever that entails.

[brisbydog]

Peter has been very vocal on Twitter about wanting to be back for longer arcs. I suspect he wants too much money which is why I heard he was not back for Doug's funeral. 

[DisneyBoy]

2 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Peter has been very vocal on Twitter about wanting to be back for longer arcs. I suspect he wants too much money which is why I heard he was not back for Doug's funeral. 

Yeah that was not a good look on him.

[Retired at last]

Back to the moronic Kayla story about a staff member working on the sepsis reversal thing. . . first, that sounds like Dr. Crazy, and second, if that was a real thing, the hospital would be famous and not declaring bankruptcy. My mom died from sepsis, so it's not something that can magically go away. If all of your organs and functions are shutting down, what kind of pill or treatment is going to reverse that and what condition would your organs be in if you did live?

I am not a fan of the characters coming and going all the time. I am glad that so many will be back for John's funeral, and it will be nice to read about them, but I don't need them there for long. It disrupts the stories that are going on, although I do understand that there is nothing exceptionally interesting happening. I hope the writers will slow the pace of the filming.

[CanaryFan98]

12 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I've always enjoyed Bo so please don't hate me for saying this...

I am *so* tired of him dangling above the jaws of death. Kayla sounded absolutely moronic today panicking about sepsis and then saying the clunkiest dialogue: "oh gee golly wait...I FORGOT about that unnamed doctor on my staff making a drug for exactly this situation!" 🙄

Lady, if that was the situation it would have instantly popped into your head! Come on! Yeesh, writers.

...and didn't we hear that Bo was awake and slowly recovering like months ago? I seem to recall dialogue to that affect from Hope.

We already had him seriously ill for the 50th. Now again for the 60th.

...we gonna be doing this again for the 70th too?

Realistically, wouldn't there be enough drama in Bo just going through physio after months in a coma and years fozen in a tube? Does he have to wake up only after "dying" dramatically again, and then somehow be 100% fine and walking and talking?

Remember when John left town with Doc 15 years ago or so? He came back in a wheelchair because it had taken like two whole years to get his strength back. That was cool and believable.

This....is not.

But at least ShawnD almost cried today, so that's a plus. Haven't seem him act that convincingly in a long while.

I agree with you here I was fine with Bo being killed off 10 years ago. I don't see the point in his returns if nothing is really going to result from them and Hope is stuck in limbo. 

They could've just given them a HEA and bring them back for visits like they have done for Jack/Jennifer. 

[DisneyBoy]

Yeah agreed. Bringing someone back from the dead who isn't even staying on the show for more than 2 seconds is so stupid.

Hey, remember when Corday said at the 50th that death was going to be final again? Funny how that worked out.

The focus right now should be on John. It's super uncomfortable that they hoped Drake would return but were writing him out, and now Peter gets more attention,  even though he's actaully alive, during what should be a moment focused on someone else.

Today's episode:

Raven was amazing today. Cry your eyes out girl, you need to let it all out. I feel for Chanel wanting to start a family and it repeatedly blowing up in her face, but she was hardcore pressuring Johnny at a time when he needed to feel heard. He's allowed to have second thoughts. Funny how they flipped from her saying "lets work this out" to him saying it.

Did the hallway/doorway into Paulina's apartment change layout?

Smart to bring back the Doug owes money to mobsters plot. Wonder how they'll target the K house.

I guess the new team has decided that Sophia does love Tate and that they're going to be coparents in the end. Meh. I find it a bit boring, though the new Sophia handled the shocking news of Johnny's decision very believably.

Sarah needs to ask everyone who knows to please shut their mouths about her knowing the secret for this "let it pass" approach to work...which means it won't. Just tell him now.

Edited April 30 by DisneyBoy

[brisbydog]

My heart broke for Chanel today. Marlena's advice was awful and instead of making Johnny recognize he is not his father and to embrace a better future she managed to make him wallow in it. And how dare he tell Tate and Sophia before he and Chanel had even made a final decision?? At this point I hope Chanel and Paulina adopt the baby together.

I could just feel Sophia's dispair too. She finally had a plan and could look forward to being a teenager again and now this is all uncertain again. Anybody else feel she and Tate are stuck with this kid?

I am thrilled the new writers are very clear that Sarah's motivation was not that she wanted to respect Victor's wishes, or her sympathy for Philip's mental health struggles, but that it was all about loving Xander, fearing losing him to jail, and protecting their family. That makes sense, whatever Ron had her spouting in January did not.

Hi Doug3! I've missed you! I enjoyed his random run in with Philip. I still much prefer him with Holly to dull Old Man Tate.

And my favourite pairing of Xander and Philip were on. When Xander whispers "I want to throw you out a window" he is really saying "I love you".
 

Edited April 29 by brisbydog

[BuckeyeLou]

Oh Gosh, my heart was breaking for Chanel today!  The young actress was very good at her hurt over her husband was all about his feelings & not considering her.  I think Johnny is being selfish.  And I also enjoyed the emotional scenes between Maggie & Julie!  They had me teary...such good friends & knowing their history together(Maggie bringing up Julie stealing the mink stole when she was a teen).  Xander & Sarah are so in love, I love their scenes together.  And Xander & Philip are always good together.  I did like today's show...the new writers are tapping into the show's history & I like the dialogue between different characters.

[norcalgal]

45 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

My heart broke for Chanel today. Marlena's advice was awful and instead of making Johnny recognize he is not his father and to embrace a better future she managed to make him wallow in it. And how dare he tell Tate and Sophia before he and Chanel had even made a final decision??

Co-signing everyone’s praise for Raven.  She is so talented! I can’t even recall the other Chanel actresses before her. I agree that Chanel and Johnny should have thoroughly discussed the adoption before Johnny told Tate and Sophia…except (see below)

8 minutes ago, BuckeyeLou said:

I think Johnny is being selfish.

Ultimately, he’s doing the right thing *for the baby*. No one should have a baby if they’re not 1000000% sure. A baby isn’t a shirt you can return to the store if you change your mind later.  Just wish he had given both him and Chanel a bit more time as a couple to come to terms with how he feels before unilaterally telling Tate/Sophia.

Maggie is SUCH a hypocrite! Laying into Philip for lying AND for roping others into his lie. Let’s see…who does Maggie know who did the same thing (and is continuing to lie)?

• So it’s ok for Sarah to rope Stephanie and Alex into the ridiculous “Steph cheated on Alex with Philip” lie. 
• And it’s ok for Sarah to still lie about knowing about the fake letter because it’s “for the sake of her family/daughter/marriage”. 

Biological child lies:  it’s for the greater good 

Stepchild lies: you are despicable!  

[brisbydog]

1 hour ago, norcalgal said:

Co-signing everyone’s praise for Raven.  She is so talented! I can’t even recall the other Chanel actresses before her. I agree that Chanel and Johnny should have thoroughly discussed the adoption before Johnny told Tate and Sophia…except (see below)

Ultimately, he’s doing the right thing *for the baby*. No one should have a baby if they’re not 1000000% sure. A baby isn’t a shirt you can return to the store if you change your mind later.  Just wish he had given both him and Chanel a bit more time as a couple to come to terms with how he feels before unilaterally telling Tate/Sophia.

Maggie is SUCH a hypocrite! Laying into Philip for lying AND for roping others into his lie. Let’s see…who does Maggie know who did the same thing (and is continuing to lie)?

• So it’s ok for Sarah to rope Stephanie and Alex into the ridiculous “Steph cheated on Alex with Philip” lie. 
• And it’s ok for Sarah to still lie about knowing about the fake letter because it’s “for the sake of her family/daughter/marriage”. 

Biological child lies:  it’s for the greater good 

Stepchild lies: you are despicable!  

To be fair, Maggie handwaved kidnappings, baby swappings, blackmailings, near killings and a multitude of other crimes for her favourite stepson/son in law, Xander.