Current Plots Discussion II: Discussing Today's Episode and Current Storylines

[DisneyBoy]

10 hours ago, Retired at last said:

Speaking of, isn't it about time for Jan to return with Shawn D's kid?

I'm pretty sure Jan was left in a coma when we last saw her. Was that because John strangled her? I can't remember.

Megan and Jan's returns were two of the worst plots ever.

[Rodney]

2 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I'm pretty sure Jan was left in a coma when we last saw her. Was that because John strangled her? I can't remember.

Jan is currently on the run.

Jan came out of her coma from being strangled by John thanks to Marlena (as the Devil) using his powers to bring her out of it.  He/she glamoured her into Belle and tricked Shawn into sleeping with her.  After she was exposed, she was arrested by Shawn and sent to prison, where she apparently pleaded guilty to Charlie's murder and got fifteen to life for second-degree murder.

However, she returned claiming that she was pregnant by Shawn from them sleeping together, but it was really Orpheus's son, Evan Frears/Christian Maddox, who'd fathered the baby.  Once this was exposed, Evan/Christian was about to take the baby, also named Christian, to Australia.  But Jan intervened, shot him so that he fell into Salem Harbor, and went on the run with the baby instead.  Neither she nor Evan/Christian has been seen since.

[DisneyBoy]

I just watched the shooting episode. Why - except for the cheesiness of it - did EJ say "I've won!" right before getting shot? He spent all that time detailing how everyone hates him and he didn't seem too thrilled, so....? It was just weird.

There are too many suspects and they all kinda cancel each other out a bit. It would be great if Ava shot him, or Roman, or Johnny...but it can only be one person so...I feel invested in none of them. Its like they created a dozen possible cool revenge stories against EJ, but none of them will be real.

Loved Kate's icyness towards the departing Ava.

Wasn't Abigail choked to death by Clyde? Chad's line about all her blood being on him didn't ring any bells...

[CanaryFan98]

1 hour ago, DisneyBoy said:

I just watched the shooting episode. Why - except for the cheesiness of it - did EJ say "I've won!" right before getting shot? He spent all that time detailing how everyone hates him and he didn't seem too thrilled, so....? It was just weird.

There are too many suspects and they all kinda cancel each other out a bit. It would be great if Ava shot him, or Roman, or Johnny...but it can only be one person so...I feel invested in none of them. Its like they created a dozen possible cool revenge stories against EJ, but none of them will be real.

Loved Kate's icyness towards the departing Ava.

Wasn't Abigail choked to death by Clyde? Chad's line about all her blood being on him didn't ring any bells...

No he stabbed her and Chad found her bloodied on their bed.

[norcalgal]

They really should have SORASed Tate and Holly as college students. They seemingly decide when they want to go to high school.

• Holly wakes up and tells Doug she will get him breakfast before going to school.
• Sophia has time (before school) to go over to Tate’s and gossip about EJ being shot, so now Tate goes immediately to Holly to “be there for her.”
• Holly and Sophia hang around Horton Square for…reasons…

High school has surely changed since my time since I couldn’t just flit about, choosing if/when I went to school!

[Artsda]

Sarah is terrible. 

[brisbydog]

The flashbacks are out of control.

 

Sarah is getting complete character assassination to serve the plot. The actress hates it. She said she had no idea how to play any of this because it makes no sense.

Alex and Stephanie reduced to comparing notes on their dozens of past sex partners. That tracks. What else have either of them accomplished?

Philip wants the secret out since he blabs about it in full sentences all the time.

Tate is so annoying. Obviously walked into someone's house then right into a girl's bedroom. On the other hand thanks to Salem inbreeding it's also the mansion of his great grandfather so he technically is family.

 

The only good part was the Kiriaki boys

[DisneyBoy]

35 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

Alex and Stephanie reduced to comparing notes on their dozens of past sex partners. That tracks. What else have either of them accomplished?

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

BURN!

36 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

Philip wants the secret out since he blabs about it in full sentences all the time.

Yeah I noticed that. He keeps blabbing and learning nothing.

[CanaryFan98]

In a couple of weeks let's see if anything improves.

[brisbydog]

Oh Doug3 I have such an older lady crush on you. Tate looked like an idiot whining to him. I like how stoic he is but with a slight amusement to him as he deflected Tate. Him calling Tate an insecure little baby was no lies being told.

Sophia is a shrewd negotiator. She is over being forced into motherhood and wants her future back. Good for her.

Kristen first suspect up! So she didn't do it. I like all these dudes skeptical about her not hearing anything cause she was drying her hair. As a girl, makes full sense to me.

I laughed so hard at comotose EJ having a full flashback of his shooting. Peacock does know this show streams and we can watch the episode again if we want to, right?

Brady was very kind to Belle. It is clear she is fighting real feelings for EJ.

Ok episode. JJ and Shawn put me to sleep but they are an upgrade from Rafe so I'll take them as cops. At least they seem to have some investigative skills.

[norcalgal]

22 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

Brady was very kind to Belle. It is clear she is fighting real feelings for EJ.

This was the best thing about today’s episode. Raw, honest talk between Brady and Belle. I like how Brady is able to bring in his own personal experience with Kristen and with addiction to help his sister. Good sibling bonding today. Well done Days (and how often do we say that anymore?!).

[tribeca]

People in Salem are really bad at getting rid of their guns. 

[DisneyBoy]

It's kinda depressing how many guns there suddenly are in Salem to facilitate this plot. I mean, the cops having them make sense, and EJ too, since he's a habitual law breaker. But now Roman is claiming he always has one? Seriously? I feel like there were moments in the past when someone would have made good use of one in the pub, had that been a thing.

Ava - the former mob princess - needing to get a gun from Melinda - the former DA! - is hilarious to me. You'd think she have one for every outfit.

11 hours ago, norcalgal said:

This was the best thing about today’s episode. Raw, honest talk between Brady and Belle. I like how Brady is able to bring in his own personal experience with Kristen and with addiction to help his sister. Good sibling bonding today. Well done Days (and how often do we say that anymore?!).

Aw darnit now you're making me feel like I should watch the episode.

But then again, knowing the spoilers for next week, I can't help but roll my eyes. Belle needs a good therapist STAT!

Pity there are none nearby.

I seriously need to get back to the Orpheus/John plotline.

[Badger]

No one is forcing Sophia into motherhood;  it's what she's wanted all along. Or at least a way for her to get Tate. She's lucky that both Tate and Holly are morons who still haven't figured out her game.

[DisneyBoy]

Is it though?

Initially there was some nuance there. Hopefully the new writers fix things so Sophia isn't some pathetic teenage shrew desperate to trap a guy. That's so boring.

[brisbydog]

3 hours ago, Badger said:

No one is forcing Sophia into motherhood;  it's what she's wanted all along. Or at least a way for her to get Tate. She's lucky that both Tate and Holly are morons who still haven't figured out her game.

I think we are watching different shows. Sophia was horrified to be pregnant and wanted a fast abortion. Now she is doing everything she can to unload the baby so she can go to medical school and get on with her life 

[Badger]

3 hours ago, brisbydog said:

I think we are watching different shows. Sophia was horrified to be pregnant and wanted a fast abortion. Now she is doing everything she can to unload the baby so she can go to medical school and get on with her life 

No, she isn't.  She's behaving like someone who plans to keep her baby and have a relationship with the baby's father.  

[Badger]

7 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Is it though?

Initially there was some nuance there. Hopefully the new writers fix things so Sophia isn't some pathetic teenage shrew desperate to trap a guy. That's so boring.

To be fair to Sophia, even if they go down the "Aaron is the real father" route, I believe she honestly thinks Tate is the father.  

[Ohiopirate02]

22 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Kristen first suspect up! So she didn't do it. I like all these dudes skeptical about her not hearing anything cause she was drying her hair. As a girl, makes full sense to me.
 

And it's not like she just got a perm earlier in the day, so she's definitely telling the truth.

[DisneyBoy]

I feel like we still need Annaleigh Ashford bouncing into the DiMansion singing "OMG WE ROCK - It's the scene of the criii-iiii-iiime!"

Edited April 9 by DisneyBoy

[brisbydog]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

No, she isn't.  She's behaving like someone who plans to keep her baby and have a relationship with the baby's father.  

You will have to explain how you are interpreting that. She is literally trying anything she can to unload that baby on Johnny and Chanel. Tate was apathetic yesterday while she advocated for the adoption.

[DisneyBoy]

Was this episode only 30 mins long?

Hi Sami!

Please refresh me: does Belle know how Johnny was conceived?

I've really enjoyed the current actor playing Mr Shin in his past roles, but this is his first time appearing as Mr Shin, right? What happened to the other actor, the one who appeared when Stefano snuck back into town years ago for a meeting where Chad and Kate wore matching blue suits and plotted together?

Belle seems waaay more interested in EJ 's situation than her own father's.

[norcalgal]

56 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

Tate was apathetic yesterday while she advocated for the adoption.

To me, Tate was beyond apathetic, almost monosyllabic! 
And I nearly laughed when Sophia wanted to blow off her impatient mom to get Tate to spill the tea (aka gossip) about his interaction with Doug/Holly.

ps…I attribute Tate being mentally checked out talking to Mrs. Choi because his mind was still on the whole Doug thing.

[Rodney]

On 4/8/2025 at 12:15 PM, brisbydog said:

Brady was very kind to Belle. It is clear she is fighting real feelings for EJ.

I don't buy it.  Belle has "real feelings" after just having sex with E.J. a few times?  Yeah, I don't believe that for a second.

[DaphneCat]

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

I don't buy it.  Belle has "real feelings" after just having sex with E.J. a few times?  Yeah, I don't believe that for a second.

Was just going to say the same thing.  And she actually said "I love you" to him.  Did she witness him saving a puppy or something else we don't know about?

[brisbydog]

3 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Was this episode only 30 mins long?

Hi Sami!

Please refresh me: does Belle know how Johnny was conceived?

I've really enjoyed the current actor playing Mr Shin in his past roles, but this is his first time appearing as Mr Shin, right? What happened to the other actor, the one who appeared when Stefano snuck back into town years ago for a meeting where Chad and Kate wore matching blue suits and plotted together?

Belle seems waaay more interested in EJ 's situation than her own father's.

No he has been on has Mr Shin a few times

 

I think Belle has to know about Johnny's conception. It came out at Lucas and Sami's wedding 

[boes]

2 hours ago, norcalgal said:

I attribute Tate being mentally checked out talking to Mrs. Choi because his mind was still on the whole Doug thing.

Here's where I miss Theresa.  Somebody, anybody, needs to tell Mrs. Choi exactly when, where and how to stuff it.  Tate won't do it, Sophia, I guess, can't do it - ditto Mr. Choi - Brady's such a terrible dad he hasn't even tried to do it.  Theresa, on the other hand, with all of her faults, would have let Mrs. Choi know in no uncertain terms that unless she's planning to somehow transfer the fetus into her own womb, she's got NO say in what the actual parents get to do with the child.  

Mrs. Choi's sense of entitlement, and everyone caving to her, is enraging.

[BuckeyeLou]

Yay!  Sami appears!  Ohhh, she over-hears her Sister saying "I Love You" to EJ!  Drama will ensue :)  I was LOL at Kristen calling Shawn & JJ "Detectives Dumb & Dumber".  Hmmm..Gabi was peering thru the French doors...did she see who did it?!  I think Xander & Philip are celebrating too soon!

[norcalgal]

58 minutes ago, boes said:

Here's where I miss Theresa.  Somebody, anybody, needs to tell Mrs. Choi exactly when, where and how to stuff it.  Tate won't do it, Sophia, I guess, can't do it - ditto Mr. Choi - Brady's such a terrible dad he hasn't even tried to do it.  Theresa, on the other hand, with all of her faults, would have let Mrs. Choi know in no uncertain terms that unless she's planning to somehow transfer the fetus into her own womb, she's got NO say in what the actual parents get to do with the child.  

Mrs. Choi's sense of entitlement, and everyone caving to her, is enraging.

What’s extra enraging (and I posted about it on this forum) is that early on, either Tate or Sophia mentioned that Sophia has to do everything her mom wants in case Mommy Choi no longer funds Sophia’s college education. 
Well, aren’t John and Theresa wealthy? They could tell Sophia they will 100% fund Sophia, as long as she and Tate stop allowing Mrs. Choi to dictate their actions/decisions. Voila. 

[Ohiopirate02]

11 minutes ago, norcalgal said:

What’s extra enraging (and I posted about it on this forum) is that early on, either Tate or Sophia mentioned that Sophia has to do everything her mom wants in case Mommy Choi no longer funds Sophia’s college education. 
Well, aren’t John and Theresa wealthy? They could tell Sophia they will 100% fund Sophia, as long as she and Tate stop allowing Mrs. Choi to dictate their actions/decisions. Voila. 

There's also Dimera and Paulina's money in play here if Johnny and Chanel did want to adopt. I get that ethically speaking one should not be buying a baby, but this is fiction and there are ways to foot the bill for an education without directly giving money.

[tribeca]

Annoyed that people care more about EJ then John.  
Phillip is so goofy.  Is he really Kate and Victors son. 
since when is Kayla so secretive about patients.  

[CanaryFan98]

7 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Was this episode only 30 mins long?

Hi Sami!

Please refresh me: does Belle know how Johnny was conceived?

I've really enjoyed the current actor playing Mr Shin in his past roles, but this is his first time appearing as Mr Shin, right? What happened to the other actor, the one who appeared when Stefano snuck back into town years ago for a meeting where Chad and Kate wore matching blue suits and plotted together?

Belle seems waaay more interested in EJ 's situation than her own father's.

The show claims she didn't but wasn't Belle around when it happened? As much as I dislike Sami she does give that old Days feeling that few characters/actors do on this show anymore. 

Plus she needs to be there for this story. I also think it's absurd that EJ matters more than John right now but there's only so much you can do with John when the actor wasn't around.

Edited April 9 by CanaryFan98

[BoredAtHome]

On 4/1/2025 at 6:50 PM, DisneyBoy said:

"Rosebud!", for those not aware, is a deathbed line from the classic film Citizen Kane.

He might as well have said "show me the money!" or "as God as my witness, I'll never go hungry again!"

Ron has no self control.

Yeah, Rafe needed to shut the hell up completely. Jada did not deserve to be yelled at after all the weeks of hell she went through and the highly unusual circumstances. She'd even be within her rights to say "I can't love this face anymore, sorry" and just end the relationship and take some time alone. But no, rather than Rafe quietly accept that she had a slip-up, he flips his lid for the drama of it.

Bad writing.

Or "Where's the beef?"

[DisneyBoy]

10 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

Was just going to say the same thing.  And she actually said "I love you" to him.  Did she witness him saving a puppy or something else we don't know about?

The only way I can buy Belle being this enamored with EJ is to assume she's had no sex in the last two years because of all of Shawn's depression and crap. EJ has always (we assume) been confident in bed, so I'm assuming he's just f***ed her brains clear out of her head.

I also assume Jada enjoyed her brief romp with Shawn purely because she was desperate to have a good time after all the grief "Rafe" was putting her through, so she just focused on herself and not especially on him.

Sorry, Shawn, but until there's a recast, I'm not buying you as a stud in any way shape or form.

Come to think of it, I don't buy Philip as some kind of catch either. And I severely hate the wacky energy he puts out. Recast them both, PLEASE, because as it stands, I don't see how either can drive story or be good in a coupling no matter who they're paired with.

10 hours ago, brisbydog said:

No he has been on has Mr Shin a few times

Really? Oh ok. I guess I missed his previous appearances. Do you know, give or take, when he first assumed the part?

He's not the same guy who was at that board meeting with Chad and Kate that I remember from...2012? Something like that.

10 hours ago, boes said:

Mrs. Choi's sense of entitlement, and everyone caving to her, is enraging.

And completely unrelatable. I can't get anyone to agree with me on which movie to watch, nevermind what to do with a baby!

In the absence of Theresa, I say Sami step in there and tell Ms Choi to STFU and quit bossing the underage parents around.

9 hours ago, BuckeyeLou said:

I think Xander & Philip are celebrating too soon!

Yeah, what exactly was that? Why on earth would Shin want to merge the two companies, when he's the one who has supposedly been running DiMera for almost a decade? Why would he want to merge with rival Titan?

I feel like this has all gotten brief, bare-minimum lip service in spite of being a rather large shift in the status quo.

[methodwriter85]

Have there been any babies successfully adopted on this show though since Alex (and maybe Brady with his relationship to Marlena) all the way back in the early 90's. This show has been consistently anti-adoption/anti-abortion for the most part. Mimi got an abortion and got punished while I believe the only reason Jada was able to get away with her abortion was because the show really didn't want Eric to have a child with anybody but Nicole. They wouldn't even let Rafe keep David, who had to go back to his biological aunt.

*By successfully adopted, I mean a baby that is raised by two (or a single) non-biological parent (so no retcons that come to the show as adults after being raised by adoptive parents), and aren't killed off as babies/toddler. (See: Zac (who was taken back by Hope and then ran over by his drunk Baby Swamp sister) and Grace (who was switched with Sydney by Nicole and died of bacterial meningitis.) 

 

Edited April 10 by methodwriter85

[Soapy Goddess]

9 minutes ago, methodwriter85 said:

By successfully adopted, I mean a baby that is raised by two (or a single) non-biological parent (so no retcons that come to the show as adults after being raised by adoptive parents), and aren't killed off as babies/toddler. (See: Zac (who was taken back by Hope and then ran over by his drunk Baby Swamp sister) and Grace (who was switched with Sydney by Nicole and died of bacterial meningitis.) 

What about "Pocket"?  Didn't Kayla & Steve adopt him?  Admittedly, I don't know what happened to him, so I could be wrong.

[CanaryFan98]

5 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

The only way I can buy Belle being this enamored with EJ is to assume she's had no sex in the last two years because of all of Shawn's depression and crap. EJ has always (we assume) been confident in bed, so I'm assuming he's just f***ed her brains clear out of her head.

I also assume Jada enjoyed her brief romp with Shawn purely because she was desperate to have a good time after all the grief "Rafe" was putting her through, so she just focused on herself and not especially on him.

Sorry, Shawn, but until there's a recast, I'm not buying you as a stud in any way shape or form.

Come to think of it, I don't buy Philip as some kind of catch either. And I severely hate the wacky energy he puts out. Recast them both, PLEASE, because as it stands, I don't see how either can drive story or be good in a coupling no matter who they're paired with.

Really? Oh ok. I guess I missed his previous appearances. Do you know, give or take, when he first assumed the part?

He's not the same guy who was at that board meeting with Chad and Kate that I remember from...2012? Something like that.

And completely unrelatable. I can't get anyone to agree with me on which movie to watch, nevermind what to do with a baby!

In the absence of Theresa, I say Sami step in there and tell Ms Choi to STFU and quit bossing the underage parents around.

Yeah, what exactly was that? Why on earth would Shin want to merge the two companies, when he's the one who has supposedly been running DiMera for almost a decade? Why would he want to merge with rival Titan?

I feel like this has all gotten brief, bare-minimum lip service in spite of being a rather large shift in the status quo.

I agree with most of this post except the Sami part. Sami is worse because she wanted Allie to keep a kid she didn’t want at least Mrs. Choi was open to adoption 

3 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

What about "Pocket"?  Didn't Kayla & Steve adopt him?  Admittedly, I don't know what happened to him, so I could be wrong.

I believe they tried to. I found it hard to believe Victor/Kate wouldn’t care about their grandchild being out there. 

[brisbydog]

1 hour ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I agree with most of this post except the Sami part. Sami is worse because she wanted Allie to keep a kid she didn’t want at least Mrs. Choi was open to adoption 

I believe they tried to. I found it hard to believe Victor/Kate wouldn’t care about their grandchild being out there. 

The fact Victor didn't give a crap about Pocket/Tyler actually helped me beleive he wouldn't care about Xander either. Victor was only about family when they were in his orbit

7 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

 

Really? Oh ok. I guess I missed his previous appearances. Do you know, give or take, when he first assumed the part?

Yep this Shin started in August 2022

[DisneyBoy]

6 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

I believe the only reason Jada was able to get away with her abortion was because the show really didn't want Eric to have a child with anybody but Nicole.

I believe that's the truth of it.

But I'm grateful it happened, even if it only did for that reason.

I realize this is a genre aimed at women and always has been...and that women love having babies LOL and that that's a kind of narrative "happy ending" trope...but we live in 2025, abortions can be done safely and for liberated women who aren't beholden to the misogynistic ideals of the 50s, it's a procedure that makes sense.

Allie should have had the chance to terminate her pregnancy, and Sophia definitely should have had that chance as well. I mean, you'd think a young woman studying to be a Doctor would be open to it.

But no. TPTB keep regurgitating plotlines from decades ago that tell women their true purpose is being baby makers and the rest is just details.

😡

[DaphneCat]

2 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

Allie should have had the chance to terminate her pregnancy

I honestly don't remember her character even mentioning that she considered termination. She simply showed up very pregnant so I assumed she decided to continue the pregnancy for ...... reasons?

 

5 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

But no. TPTB keep regurgitating plotlines from decades ago that tell women their true purpose is being baby makers and the rest is just details

Especially since having a baby REALLY interferes with plotlines.  Most of the time, characters don't even mention their kids in passing.  Granted, I understand no one wants extended baby care scenes but just once, I want someone to mention that they can't  meet up with friends or go on an adventure because they don't actually have someone they can dump said baby on at a moment's notice.  Or they can't really have a conversation because the kid is doing what babies do, i.e. screaming, not sleeping/napping approximately 23 hours a day.

[CanaryFan98]

1 hour ago, DaphneCat said:

I honestly don't remember her character even mentioning that she considered termination. She simply showed up very pregnant so I assumed she decided to continue the pregnancy for ...... reasons?

 

Especially since having a baby REALLY interferes with plotlines.  Most of the time, characters don't even mention their kids in passing.  Granted, I understand no one wants extended baby care scenes but just once, I want someone to mention that they can't  meet up with friends or go on an adventure because they don't actually have someone they can dump said baby on at a moment's notice.  Or they can't really have a conversation because the kid is doing what babies do, i.e. screaming, not sleeping/napping approximately 23 hours a day.

She wanted to put the kid up for adoption and I think at one point wanted Will/Sonny to adopt them Sami said no. She even considered Eric/Nicole and Sami objected to that as well(at least that one I understood)

Lucas I believe was rather accepting of Allie's decision here. 

This was before we found out it was a product of rape.

[DisneyBoy]

Well now - that was a party! Nice to see Rex in a cast as a follow-up to that off-camera car accident. Great to see Vivian too :)

 

RSW was, by a mile, the worst part of the episode. What a horrible, horrible OTT performance. Alex, it isn't all about you. Why even bother screaming at - and clapping at the face of 👀 - Sarah if you are still keeping the secret?

Shut the hell up.

He looked and sounded like Ben about to strangle another woman.

😡

Anyway, great to see Sami and finally hear her shitting on EJ a little. Isn't that 10 years overdue! But then, they softened it a bit and I started to get worried. She'd better be over him for real now. Please!

Why is it on Sami to explain things to angry Johnny? She was the victim. She suddenly found herself pregnant by her attacker who was part of a powerful family, while also carrying a different innocent child to term. Is it that hard to guess that she tried to make the best of a shitty situation, dude?

Telling you about the rape would have made you hate your father. Seems pretty self-explanatory.

I would love to see Sami own up to her ugly duckling syndrome a bit but I don't see her being that vulnerable.

Anyway, it IS weird she became obsessed with EJ and remarried him multiple times and nursed him back from the grave and all that but...go easy on her a bit.

Solid episode aside from RSW/Alex. Looking forward to tomorrow.

[Sunrain]

5 hours ago, brisbydog said:

The fact Victor didn't give a crap about Pocket/Tyler actually helped me beleive he wouldn't care about Xander either. Victor was only about family when they were in his orbit

Yep this Shin started in August 2022

Even those who were in his orbit were treated more as tools. When they became an obstacle to his goals or priorities, he’d throw them under the bus. This was how Victor alienated Justin, Bo and Isabella. Even if he might have changed later on, his egotistic self was still deep within his heart.

[brisbydog]

17 minutes ago, Sunrain said:

Even those who were in his orbit were treated more as tools. When they became an obstacle to his goals or priorities, he’d throw them under the bus. This was how Victor alienated Justin, Bo and Isabella. Even if he might have changed later on, his egotistic self was still deep within his heart.

I mean he gave Justin impotence bills, rigged an elevator to kill Bo, and hid vital info about John from Isabella. Every one of them walked away from him.

For Xander vs Philip I just have to in my head assume that Victor delighted in having these two sons born at the same time, one that he could deny everything to, the other who would get everything, and see which method would create the perfect heir to his empire. The irony is that these two sons are now working together and actually like each other (for now). I liked when Philip was wistful about how nice it would have been to have a brother growing up to share the burden of Victor's attentions.

 

1 hour ago, DisneyBoy said:

Well now - that was a party! Nice to see Rex in a cast as a follow-up to that off-camera car accident. Great to see Vivian too :)

 

RSW was, by a mile, the worst part of the episode. What a horrible, horrible OTT performance. Alex, it isn't all about you. Why even bother screaming at - and clapping at the face of 👀 - Sarah if you are still keeping the secret?

Shut the hell up.

He looked and sounded like Ben about to strangle another woman.

😡

Anyway, great to see Sami and finally hear her shitting on EJ a little. Isn't that 10 years overdue! But then, they softened it a bit and I started to get worried. She'd better be over him for real now. Please!

Why is it on Sami to explain things to angry Johnny? She was the victim. She suddenly found herself pregnant by her attacker who was part of a powerful family, while also carrying a different innocent child to term. Is it that hard to guess that she tried to make the best of a shitty situation, dude?

Telling you about the rape would have made you hate your father. Seems pretty self-explanatory.

I would love to see Sami own up to her ugly duckling syndrome a bit but I don't see her being that vulnerable.

Anyway, it IS weird she became obsessed with EJ and remarried him multiple times and nursed him back from the grave and all that but...go easy on her a bit.

Solid episode aside from RSW/Alex. Looking forward to tomorrow.

Really great episode, again! Amazing how the show has improved now that Rafe, Leo and Jada have taken a week off.

The Sami and Belle scenes were excellent. I love both these girls and they have such a natural, adversial thing going that is based on years of working together. I love that Dan is on screen every day despite being in a coma. And I am looking forward to Johnny and Sami tomorrow. I hope it is written well.

Vivian!!! I knew she would be the one to blow up this whole secret, although Philip is doing a good job himself by letting half the town overhear him talking about it.

Rex. Whatever.

Xander and Philip niggling Gabi was great fun. I felt like they were chem testing Gabi and Philip. Definitely more lively than her and JJ. Didn't they date in the past when they had different faces?

I don't love Alex but I was cheering on everything he said today, Rob's awful performance aside (what was with the clapping ffs?). He is being forced to do exactly what was done to him, and he should be furious. I just wish he had given Sarah an ultimatum with a timeline to tell Xander the truth or he would. This needs to be over with. Sarah has to know that with so many people knowing about it that it coming out is inevitable.

[DisneyBoy]

19 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

As much as I dislike Sami she does give that old Days feeling that few characters/actors do on this show anymore. 

I totally get what you mean. Sami, Kate and Viv all give me those feelings, so it's a good week for me.

[brisbydog]

6 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

I totally get what you mean. Sami, Kate and Viv all give me those feelings, so it's a good week for me.

Me too. Rex not so much.

[tribeca]

Sami your passive aggressive self or maybe just aggressive self is soapy goodness.   Belle can give it right back.  They were good sparring partners.  Stopping for minute to check in on John and their mom. 
  Chad and Johnny had a good talk. Chad is becoming the head of the family it seems.  Totally understand all Johnnys questions.  I never understood Sami and EJ relationship and not because I am a Lumi fan for life.  Sami who can hold a grudge like it’s an Olympic sport forgave him.   
alex?
 

philip and Zander are a fun team.  Hope they keep a brotherly bond 
 

[BuckeyeLou]

Question:  I thought the actor who plays Rex had retired from soaps and was a Newscaster in Las Vegas...is he back to acting, or just on for a few days?

[Nique]

17 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

The only way I can buy Belle being this enamored with EJ is to assume she's had no sex in the last two years because of all of Shawn's depression and crap. EJ has always (we assume) been confident in bed, so I'm assuming he's just f***ed her brains clear out of her head.

🤣💀That's one way to put it and that's also assuming she has any brains & cells up there. The way she has been acting I don't think so

[CanaryFan98]

4 hours ago, brisbydog said:

I mean he gave Justin impotence bills, rigged an elevator to kill Bo, and hid vital info about John from Isabella. Every one of them walked away from him.

For Xander vs Philip I just have to in my head assume that Victor delighted in having these two sons born at the same time, one that he could deny everything to, the other who would get everything, and see which method would create the perfect heir to his empire. The irony is that these two sons are now working together and actually like each other (for now). I liked when Philip was wistful about how nice it would have been to have a brother growing up to share the burden of Victor's attentions.

 

Really great episode, again! Amazing how the show has improved now that Rafe, Leo and Jada have taken a week off.

The Sami and Belle scenes were excellent. I love both these girls and they have such a natural, adversial thing going that is based on years of working together. I love that Dan is on screen every day despite being in a coma. And I am looking forward to Johnny and Sami tomorrow. I hope it is written well.

Vivian!!! I knew she would be the one to blow up this whole secret, although Philip is doing a good job himself by letting half the town overhear him talking about it.

Rex. Whatever.

Xander and Philip niggling Gabi was great fun. I felt like they were chem testing Gabi and Philip. Definitely more lively than her and JJ. Didn't they date in the past when they had different faces?

I don't love Alex but I was cheering on everything he said today, Rob's awful performance aside (what was with the clapping ffs?). He is being forced to do exactly what was done to him, and he should be furious. I just wish he had given Sarah an ultimatum with a timeline to tell Xander the truth or he would. This needs to be over with. Sarah has to know that with so many people knowing about it that it coming out is inevitable.

They almost had a fling but Gabi couldn't sleep with him because she couldn't stop thinking about Jake at the time(I believe he was involved with Kate). In retrospect both characters should've been paired because they were in a much better place than what their storylines ended up being after that flirtation ended.

JJ/Gabi are a pitstop until Stefan's inevitable return. I do hope they at least have JJ in more family scenes when that happens ideally I wanted Joy with him but she's gone now.