Spoilers & Speculation

[roamyn]

2 hours ago, Castiels Cat said:

Vought can spin anything....

Sb American hero tortured for decades by Russians and psychologically damaged brought back to America and saved by his son the Homelander.... now a heartwarming movie for the family.

That's exactly what I see Vought doing.

My issue is what/how is Vought going to be able to control SB?  He seems indestructible moreso than HL.

The Boys would have to work with Vought to apply their 'solution', and I don't see that happening now that Annie is out of there.  Vought is probably the only company/agency that can hold SB once he's contained.

[Castiels Cat]

Okay...

When Stan engineered the takedown of SB it was also the demise of Payback and the Dawn if the Seven.

I predict he's doing the same thing here. By engineering the takedown if Homelander he is planning on replacing the original Seven with newbies lead by Silver Kincaid.

Next season they will all be on the outs...  except maybe Noir who is Stan's man... if he lives.

SB will blast leaving the old Secen powerless and in disarray.

Stan puts together a new team.

[Castiels Cat]

Hi Myrelle_

Regarding SB, 

JA has said that he Hopes that he is invited back and Kripke is talking about JDM for s 4. I do not believe that Kripke would bring up JDM unless. Yeah he was joking about a Supernatural reunion but he seemed pretty serious about JDM and more joking about Jared and Misha. If he's serious about JDM then SB is not dead.

The episode 8 trailers suggest a blast which is what I speculated and certainly a cliffhanger makes the most sense. It stands to reason SB will blow one way or another at Vought tower and disappear.

We won't know who lost power. Next season will be a reboot maybe with a new team even or not. IDK.

We have to get his backstory though. And also find out exactly what MM's story is about. Did that really happen the way MM remembers and if so why.

On 7/2/2022 at 10:13 AM, roamyn said:

That's exactly what I see Vought doing.

My issue is what/how is Vought going to be able to control SB?  He seems indestructible moreso than HL.

The Boys would have to work with Vought to apply their 'solution', and I don't see that happening now that Annie is out of there.  Vought is probably the only company/agency that can hold SB once he's contained.

Exactly. That solution requires a containment set up and whomever doses him could die. It looked like people keeled over in the videos.

[patty1h]

I'm confused - how does this world determine whose offspring gets Supe powers? Some Supes have Supe kids with a "normal" partner: Homelander has Ryan and Soldier Boy has Homelander (I'm presuming the mother of HL was normal), but other Supes end up having normal kids: Stormfront's daughter, Translucent's son and Victoria's daughter.

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[Smad]

8 hours ago, patty1h said:

Victoria's daughter

I want to know what the situation there is in general. Why give the girl V? From the videos of young Vic she really seemed to resent her powers. Then as an adult she felt used by Stan. Why would you inflict that on your own child? First she has no guarantee the V won't kill her. Then she has no idea what powers her daughter will get. What if she gets deformities ala Deep (gills)? What if her powers are debilitating in every day life? What if Vought comes knocking? Or Butcher?

Other than her daughter maybe having some kind of terminal illness (of which there has been no hint at all), why would Vic do it? I doubt it's for the reason Annie's mom did it. I just don't get it.

[Castiels Cat]

1 hour ago, Smad said:

I want to know what the situation there is in general. Why give the girl V? From the videos of young Vic she really seemed to resent her powers. Then as an adult she felt used by Stan. Why would you inflict that on your own child? First she has no guarantee the V won't kill her. Then she has no idea what powers her daughter will get. What if she gets deformities ala Deep (gills)? What if her powers are debilitating in every day life? What if Vought comes knocking? Or Butcher?

Other than her daughter maybe having some kind of terminal illness (of which there has been no hint at all), why would Vic do it? I doubt it's for the reason Annie's mom did it. I just don't get it.

To protect her... so she would be strong and able to defend herself. I suppose the presumption is that she would develop strong useful powers being Victoria's daughter.

See... SB... HL... Ryan.

9 hours ago, patty1h said:

I'm confused - how does this world determine whose offspring gets Supe powers? Some Supes have Supe kids with a "normal" partner: Homelander has Ryan and Soldier Boy has Homelander (I'm presuming the mother of HL was normal), but other Supes end up having normal kids: Stormfront's daughter, Translucent's son and Victoria's daughter.

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HL may have been dosed too... we don't know what Vought did to him.

[Castiels Cat]

On 6/30/2022 at 3:46 PM, Bergamot said:

There definitely has to be some use made before the end of the season of Soldier Boy's ability to depower a Supe, other than having it happen accidentally to Kimiko. I mean, that's a huge thing in this world, to be able to negate a Supe's power; it changes everything. And if it is not used, it is just like Chekhov's gun never being fired.

And I love the idea of this happening to Homelander, just to see what it would do to his fragile psyche. I mean, him being attacked in the last episode and having to fly off to save himself, is like literally the first time in his entire life he has ever been in physical danger. I am really looking forward to seeing what kind of shape he is in after that.

I am still finding it hard to picture Soldier Boy joining forces with Homelander, even if he does learn that Homelander is his son. (Or at least was made from him somehow, since supposedly Ryan is the first time that a Supe has fathered a child.) It has been made clear to Soldier Boy that Homelander is supposed to be his replacement, and we saw what he thinks of that idea.

Also, there was an instant antipathy between Soldier Boy and Homelander, which I find it hard to believe they could overcome. I think it is pretty clear to anyone who sees Homelander unmasked that he is barely human, and I think that Soldier Boy is shrewd and unsentimental enough to understand this about him immediately, even if Homelander does have his DNA.

I see a power loss across the board. HL might have some inherited power that he wouldn't lose but his showy powers would have to be V induced which is why Butcher got them too; we see Butcher's laser eyes and know that HL did not inherit that and he did not inherit flying.He might still be strong, fast whatever he might have inherited from SB and also from his mon if she was indeed Liberty.

It won't be a forever loss. They will manage to get V even if they are in the outs with Stan and Vought. It may change the dynamics for a while.

Maybe the Deep is somehow immune and is stronger than HL for once... who knows how can and will play out.

SB will blast.

[Smad]

2 hours ago, Castiels Cat said:

To protect her... so she would be strong and able to defend herself. I suppose the presumption is that she would develop strong useful powers being Victoria's daughter.

See... SB... HL... Ryan.

First of all I doubt she would know the SB/HL/Ryan connection. Second, Ryan was actually born with powers. Vic's daughter was not so there is no guarantee that when you shoot her up with compound V, she will get any useful powers. And even if her daughter has powers, that is no guaranteed survival strategy. HL could probably laser someone from orbit. All this does is screw up her daughter's life.

Unless the point of the show is that there are no decent parents, whether they are supes or regular people. Name one decent parent on this show. I guess Monique would count but Todd is a freaking tool so she is just inviting trouble into her and her daughter's life. Hughie's dad seems like the best dad on the show except he screwed up his son a little too. MM seemed like a great dad too until his issues were dialed up to 11 this Season.

[Castiels Cat]

3 hours ago, Smad said:

First of all I doubt she would know the SB/HL/Ryan connection. Second, Ryan was actually born with powers. Vic's daughter was not so there is no guarantee that when you shoot her up with compound V, she will get any useful powers. And even if her daughter has powers, that is no guaranteed survival strategy. HL could probably laser someone from orbit. All this does is screw up her daughter's life.

Unless the point of the show is that there are no decent parents, whether they are supes or regular people. Name one decent parent on this show. I guess Monique would count but Todd is a freaking tool so she is just inviting trouble into her and her daughter's life. Hughie's dad seems like the best dad on the show except he screwed up his son a little too. MM seemed like a great dad too until his issues were dialed up to 11 this Season.

She wants her daughter to be able to defend herself. That much is obvious. Protecting her daughter is her driving motivation.

MM had issues all along. They have ramped up because he got back with Butcher and supes are his trigger, especially SB. The fact that his wife went fir someone the polar opposite of him in every way is another trigger and also telling of how much his mental illness and tendencies towards anger and violence impacted his marriage. It's probably why he was always in the brig too.

They are certainly emphasizing toxic relationships this season and toxic masculinity.

Characters like Frenchie and the Deep stand out as nurturing although the Deep is too weak to be his true self in front of HL; his desperation to be one of the Seven leads him to do despicable things to Starlight and to Timothy.

Edited July 4, 2022 by Castiels Cat

[MrWhyt]

8 hours ago, Castiels Cat said:

the Deep is too weak to be his true self in front of HL;

no i'm pretty sure that's his true self, he's a bootlicker. Out of all the supes he is the most obviously pathetic. I never though much of Chace Crawford (or anyone else from Gossip Girl for that matter) but he's doing a good job here of selling the Deep's desperation at trying to  not show how useless he is.

[Smad]

12 hours ago, Castiels Cat said:

Characters like Frenchie and the Deep stand out as nurturing although the Deep is too weak to be his true self in front of HL; his desperation to be one of the Seven leads him to do despicable things to Starlight and to Timothy.

There is a reason why his supe name is ironic. Because he ain't deep. What you see is what you get, same with A-Train. Which is why I consider both a giant waste of screen time. But the show goes out of it's way to continuously save A-Train's life. And they apparently love sea life porn jokes so Deep ain't going anywhere.

[roamyn]

8 hours ago, Smad said:

There is a reason why his supe name is ironic. Because he ain't deep. What you see is what you get, same with A-Train. Which is why I consider both a giant waste of screen time. But the show goes out of it's way to continuously save A-Train's life. And they apparently love sea life porn jokes so Deep ain't going anywhere.

A-Train’s survival was completely unrealistic.  There was no one around to give him CPR or call 9-1-1.  The entire area looked woodsy and untamed, except for the 2-lane asphalt (empty) road.  There’s no way he should’ve survived.

[ahrtee]

54 minutes ago, roamyn said:

A-Train’s survival was completely unrealistic.  There was no one around to give him CPR or call 9-1-1.  The entire area looked woodsy and untamed, except for the 2-lane asphalt (empty) road.  There’s no way he should’ve survived.

Oh, I'm sure they could come up with an "explainer" if needed. (Anyone remember Spock's third eyelid that was only mentioned once to save him and then never mentioned again?)

Maybe A Train can't heal, but can't be killed, either, and so he'd spend the rest of his life (eternity?) as a shell. IIRC, there were a few Greek myths about people who were granted eternal life but not youth and so kept on aging till they disappeared but were still "alive".  

I didn't watch most of season 2, so I missed a lot, but it seems to me that most of the Supes who actually died were torn (or blown) to pieces/lost their heads, so there was nothing left to resurrect.  Maybe that's the key to killing Supes--cut off their heads? (If you can find something strong enough to do it...)

[Morrigan2575]

2 hours ago, roamyn said:

A-Train’s survival was completely unrealistic.  There was no one around to give him CPR or call 9-1-1.  The entire area looked woodsy and untamed, except for the 2-lane asphalt (empty) road.  There’s no way he should’ve survived.

I guess it depends on how far her ran from Herogasam.  Since there were already ambulance, Fireman and, cops on the way I can see them driving past A Train on the way.

[MAK]

If we look for an in-universe explanation, maybe the trackers that are embedded in their bodies also keep track of vital signs? If he seems to be in physical distress, an SOS is sent out and he is reached ASAP by Vought personnel not regular first responders. 

[roamyn]

2 hours ago, MAK said:

If we look for an in-universe explanation, maybe the trackers that are embedded in their bodies also keep track of vital signs? If he seems to be in physical distress, an SOS is sent out and he is reached ASAP by Vought personnel not regular first responders. 

That’s a good point.  However, we saw Starlight call Vought when A-Train had his first heart attack.  So I think we can infer at that point he Supes didn’t have any health tracker.

But maybe since A-Train’s first heart attack and he leg getting beaten by Kimiko, TPTB inserted a new chip.

[Smad]

I wonder why they don't constantly carry around something that makes extreme noise. They did it last Season and it worked against HL and Ryan due to super hearing. And the bonus is that it's at a frequency that doesn't bother those with normal hearing. Crank that up even more and build a portable version. So when you face off against HL, you got something that can distract him.

I really hate when shows do that. Dumb characters down and make them forget essential things for plot purposes.

[Affogato]

In the episode 8 teaser Noir is sharpening a sword. Homelander says it won’t cut Soldier Boy and noir keeps on sharpening. Who is Noir sharpening it for?

[ahrtee]

19 minutes ago, Affogato said:

In the episode 8 teaser Noir is sharpening a sword. Homelander says it won’t cut Soldier Boy and noir keeps on sharpening. Who is Noir sharpening it for?

But a few seconds later in the teaser, SB has a cut on his face.  So, hmmm....?

Edited July 7, 2022 by ahrtee

[patty1h]

Earlier in the season, Edgar and senator Singer were discussing using temp V for the military. I wonder if they were aware of the limited use (3-5 doses, then death) when Edgar was proposing giving it to soldiers. If yes, that's messed up unless they would stop at 3 doses per man. Also, if the dangers are known, Edgar has fewer morals than Homelander.

[Mary42]

Personally, I have a harder time believing there was a serviceable heart left in BH after the mush that was made out of him. That, IMHO, was just a mindf*ck for A-Train for stepping out of line.

[Affogato]

10 hours ago, ahrtee said:

But a few seconds later in the teaser, SB has a cut on his face.  So, hmmm....?

Does he know something the rest don’t know? 
 

i still wonder if SB is still vulnerable at the moment he’s blasting. 

[Castiels Cat]

Three teasers and not much to go on. My husband and I are wondering if Noir makes it. The show gives him less to do than the Deep in general and payback's a beyatch.

SB and V Building will definitely blow which I hope means Homelander is depowered in s 4.

I expect Hughie and Butcher to take V courtesy of Starlight saving them and probably making them more powerful.

Ryan meets grandad and complicates another finale 

[Castiels Cat]

On 7/4/2022 at 10:37 PM, MrWhyt said:

no i'm pretty sure that's his true self, he's a bootlicker. Out of all the supes he is the most obviously pathetic. I never though much of Chace Crawford (or anyone else from Gossip Girl for that matter) but he's doing a good job here of selling the Deep's desperation at trying to  not show how useless he is.

Aquaman being useless is a trope. I think he will prove to be pivotal and have a redemption.

11 hours ago, Affogato said:

In the episode 8 teaser Noir is sharpening a sword. Homelander says it won’t cut Soldier Boy and noir keeps on sharpening. Who is Noir sharpening it for?

I assumed he planned to go down fighting 

[Affogato]

27 minutes ago, Castiels Cat said:

Three teasers and not much to go on. My husband and I are wondering if Noir makes it. The show gives him less to do than the Deep in general and payback's a beyatch.

Sure, Fridge the disabled black guy with mental health issues!

[gonzosgirrl]

For me, the fundamental difference between Soldier Boy and Homelander is that SB at least knew what it was to be human once. I think that will be his downfall, a moment of humanity that makes him hesitate.

I am not on board with framing Noir as some kind of tragic figure. Even if he's a reliable narrator (which I doubt), they all got their revenge on mean old Soldier Boy. Everything after that was their own choice and they continued to be douchebags and degenerates - and Noir in particular murdered his share of people over the last 40 years as Stan's weapon. Making him out to be some kind of tragic Disney princess doesn't work for me. Of all the supes, the only one I believe actually regrets their choices is Maeve, and they are probably going to kill her for it. I hope she takes a few of them out with her, if so.

[Morrigan2575]

28 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I am not on board with framing Noir as some kind of tragic figure.

Me neither. Wasn't there a line about him hiding in a ballpit at that restaurant after killing a kid? Also he massacred a Hard Rock in Lagos. 

[Myrelle]

29 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Me neither. Wasn't there a line about him hiding in a ballpit at that restaurant after killing a kid? Also he massacred a Hard Rock in Lagos. 

He hid in the ballpit after paralyzing another kid and yes, then there was the massacre.

1 hour ago, gonzosgirrl said:

For me, the fundamental difference between Soldier Boy and Homelander is that SB at least knew what it was to be human once. I think that will be his downfall, a moment of humanity that makes him hesitate.

I am not on board with framing Noir as some kind of tragic figure. Even if he's a reliable narrator (which I doubt), they all got their revenge on mean old Soldier Boy. Everything after that was their own choice and they continued to be douchebags and degenerates - and Noir in particular murdered his share of people over the last 40 years as Stan's weapon. Making him out to be some kind of tragic Disney princess doesn't work for me. Of all the supes, the only one I believe actually regrets their choices is Maeve, and they are probably going to kill her for it. I hope she takes a few of them out with her, if so.

ITA with all of this concerning Noir.

And I want to see Soldier Boy's explosive powers again before they take him down AND I want HIM to take a few out with him too, before he goes down to the stupid nerve gas(the Noir BS and this one are the things that ticked me off about this last episode).

Talk about ruining the finale, but Kripke does have a history of that kind of thing. 

Still hoping for a real surprise, but not counting on it or expecting it after these latest "developments" in ep. 7. 😑

Edited July 7, 2022 by Myrelle

[Bergamot]

1 hour ago, gonzosgirrl said:

For me, the fundamental difference between Soldier Boy and Homelander is that SB at least knew what it was to be human once. I think that will be his downfall, a moment of humanity that makes him hesitate.

Yes, I thought his reaction to finding out that he has a son was very interesting.  Something made him go from “No one’s the new me, pal!” to “What father wouldn’t want that for his son?” I wonder if we will get a chance to learn more about what was going on there. I hope so!

[Affogato]

It is pretty clear that many of the characters suffer from systemic pressure to do evil. Too much power and opportunity, too few boundaries, too little purpose. The system reward them, has rewarded them, for horrible things. 

[Affogato]

2 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I am not on board with framing Noir as some kind of tragic figure. Even if he's a reliable narrator (which I doubt), they all got their revenge on mean old Soldier Boy. Everything after that was their own choice and they continued to be douchebags and degenerates - and Noir in particular murdered his share of people over the last 40 years as Stan's weapon. Making him out to be some kind of tragic Disney princess doesn't work for me. Of all the supes, the only one I believe actually regrets their choices is Maeve, and they are probably going to kill her for it. I hope she takes a few of them out with her, if so.

I could argue that the most successful satire in this show is its satire of PR, not the overwrought tragic backstories. Everyone has a story that can take several spins. 
 

Noir, a cartoonist who doesn’t speak, could be the unreliable narrator who is writing this story. 

[gonzosgirrl]

31 minutes ago, Affogato said:

I could argue that the most successful satire in this show is its satire of PR, not the overwrought tragic backstories. Everyone has a story that can take several spins. 

But Noir's scenes were not set up as PR - we are looking at his version of his own memories. It seemed to me that we were supposed to believe him.

[Affogato]

12 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

But Noir's scenes were not set up as PR - we are looking at his version of his own memories. It seemed to me that we were supposed to believe him.

Yes and the narrator takes himself sincerely. We are the heroes of our own stories. 

[MAK]

It may not be PR but Noir will put himself in a more sympathetic role in his own memories. 

Was, Soldier Boy an abusive bully? Absolutely. Did he beat his team bloody all the time? Probably not.

SB seems also to be the kind of person with no filter. He himself is perfect. Anything he says about anyone else is him just "being honest." What he says about Noir not being good enough to be a movie star? Probably exactly what he said, but hey, he was just being (brutally) honest. 

Also, anyone consider that the Payback team they show us from the 80s is either the first time they gave him a team, or it is 2nd or 3rd. Gunpowder was still a teenager. Noir and the twins in their 20s. And they all aged, even Mindstorm. How many, if any, were actually of SB's generation? Even without his narcissistic personality, SB would consider himself superior to all of them.

Edited July 7, 2022 by MAK
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[Bergamot]

3 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I am not on board with framing Noir as some kind of tragic figure.

It was awful seeing what happened to Noir. But I have seen some online comments elsewhere -- not here -- that woobify him as a sweet kid and excuse the fact that he kills people because he has brain damage. 

I am far from being an expert in neuroscience, but I don’t think that having brain damage automatically equals an inability to choose not to kill people. And if this actually were true of Black Noir, it just seems all the more reason that he should be dealt with, for the safety of humanity.

I feel the same way about Homelander. Like Black Noir, I do feel pity for him. I think about Homelander as a small boy, clutching his little blue blanket for comfort in the “bad room”, and I think about how maybe he didn’t have to turn out the way that he did. But then I think about how as an adult, he forced that terrified, desperate, and helpless young girl off the edge of the roof to her death, just because he was having a bad day.

So yeah, if they can’t be controlled or contained (if that is even possible with Supes like them), then they need to be put down, in order to protect the ordinary people around them.
 

[MAK]

If Noir was actually brain damaged, would he have still been part of the Seven? And if the animated story of Homelander is canon, then Noir was trusted to "take care" of Homelander as he learned of how to operate within Vought. 

Seems all of the baby supes had issues, and Vought cultivated the more amoral ones.

[Affogato]

34 minutes ago, MAK said:

If Noir was actually brain damaged, would he have still been part of the Seven? 

Pretty sure. 

[Smad]

35 minutes ago, MAK said:

Seems all of the baby supes had issues, and Vought cultivated the more amoral ones.

The irony being that if Vought had cultivated the Starlights rather than the Homelanders, they would have achieved everything they wanted. They would have their supes in the armed forces, V as a product would be a great seller, less collateral damage, actual heroes, much less shit to clean up via PR spin and you don't create something like Butcher and The Boys.

Basically they would have had a much easier time. For the dirty work they can still have black ops teams or something.

[gonzosgirrl]

17 hours ago, ahrtee said:

But a few seconds later in the teaser, SB has a cut on his face.  So, hmmm....?

I was thinking about this. Homelander is even more impervious than Soldier Boy, and he got his face bruised in the punch-out with SB and Butcher, so maybe, while the Russians couldn't pierce his skin, another supe can? And who know what that sword is made of - maybe it's something Stan gave Noir for 'someday', Soldier Boy returned, or even for Homelander if came to that.

[Castiels Cat]

5 hours ago, Affogato said:

Sure, Fridge the disabled black guy with mental health issues!

Mmm... not sure that's accurate. He has been Stan's hit man throughout and certainly has blood on his hands in that regard. He also does whatever Homelander says...

He's the next stop on the Payback tour.

Just now, gonzosgirrl said:

I was thinking about this. Homelander is even more impervious than Soldier Boy, and he got his face bruised in the punch-out with SB and Butcher, so maybe, while the Russians couldn't pierce his skin, another supe can? And who know what that sword is made of - maybe it's something Stan gave Noir for 'someday', Soldier Boy returned, or even for Homelander if came to that.

Maybe Stan gave it to him for both if them...

Special alloy... we may not see Stan but he's still has skin in the game with Noir.

[Affogato]

1 minute ago, Castiels Cat said:

Mmm... not sure that's accurate. He has been Stan's hit man throughout and certainly has blood on his hands in that regard. He also does whatever Homelander says...

Mental health issues…..

[Castiels Cat]

1 hour ago, MAK said:

It may not be PR but Noir will put himself in a more sympathetic role in his own memories. 

Was, Soldier Boy an abusive bully? Absolutely. Did he beat his team bloody all the time? Probably not.

SB seems also to be the kind of person with no filter. He himself is perfect. Anything he says about anyone else is him just "being honest." What he says about Noir not being good enough to be a movie star? Probably exactly what he said, but hey, he was just being (brutally) honest. 

Also, anyone consider that the Payback team they show us from the 80s is either the first time they gave him a team, or it is 2nd or 3rd. Gunpowder was still a teenager. Noir and the twins in their 20s. And they all aged, even Mindstorm. How many, if any, were actually of SB's generation? Even without his narcissistic personality, SB would consider himself superior to all of them.

And none of them except Noir lasted as premiere supe material without SB.

[gonzosgirrl]

21 minutes ago, Affogato said:

Mental health issues…..

But there isn't a Supe who doesn't qualify for this descriptor.

We saw the damage done to Noir's face during the battle in Nicaragua, but there was no indication then that he suffered brain damage. He's seem pretty lucid throughout the series until this last episode. Certainly during the animated episodes which we're meant to take as canon. 

[Affogato]

12 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

But there isn't a Supe who doesn't qualify for this descriptor.

We saw the damage done to Noir's face during the battle in Nicaragua, but there was no indication then that he suffered brain damage. He's seem pretty lucid throughout the series until this last episode. Certainly during the animated episodes which we're meant to take as canon. 

There are many kinds of brain damage. I’d be surprised if he didn’t qualify. Why doesn’t he talk?  Did he used to see chucky cheese for real? Is he paranoid, insomniac? Brain damage could affect his moral judgement. Make him depressed. Lots of potential there. 
 

i wonder if he’s related to Stan? Would explain why he stayed in the seven. 

Edited July 7, 2022 by Affogato

[gonzosgirrl]

From TVLine Inside Scoop:

Quote

Any 11th-hour tease for The Boys finale? This season has been on fire. –Julia
Let me first double-check the list of 22 things I am not allowed to reveal…. Hmm. Well. Um. I can say that… there’s a great/incongruous needle drop from the Flashdance soundtrack. There’s a slugfest match-up that you perhaps are not expecting. And the closing, chilling image will give your goosebumps goosebumps.

My guesses: Flashdance song? Maniac

Slugfest: Soldier Boy and Maeve

Chilling Image: Something to do with Ryan

Edited July 7, 2022 by gonzosgirrl

[DeeDee79]

2 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Slugfest: Soldier Boy and Maeve

God, I hope not. I hate this idea. Maeve has had no beef with SB and her only comment about him was her dismay over hearing that he was still alive because it meant that there was no HL killing weapon. I hope that the slugfest will be between her and HL. 

[Bergamot]

I hope that Maeve survives!

[Aithne]

11 minutes ago, DeeDee79 said:

God, I hope not. I hate this idea. Maeve has had no beef with SB and her only comment about him was her dismay over hearing that he was still alive because it meant that there was no HL killing weapon. I hope that the slugfest will be between her and HL. 

It would be so satisfying to see her get some shots in on Homelander, after everything. Maybe he'll be softened up enough by *handwaves* whatever... Butcher, novichok... that she can get some of her own back. 

Edited July 7, 2022 by Aithne

[Castiels Cat]

5 hours ago, Affogato said:

Mental health issues…..

He slaughters because he has mental health issues... or because he wants to stay in the seven. He would have killed the female members if told to.

He justifies his behavior with cartoon friends cheering him on and HL talks to himself in the mirror and the Deep had his wife telling him to eat Timothy...

[Affogato]

1 hour ago, Castiels Cat said:

He slaughters because he has mental health issues... or because he wants to stay in the seven. He would have killed the female members if told to.

He justifies his behavior with cartoon friends cheering him on and HL talks to himself in the mirror and the Deep had his wife telling him to eat Timothy...

Not sure what you are saying? 

my current theory is that he survived the great layoff because he is related to stan edgar, maybe like Victoria, an adoptee and maybe Stan’s sister’s son. Somehow. He may in fact believe he is there to protect the world when Supes go bad. So that would be why he thinks he’s a good guy. Like 007, you know?  Bad things for good reasons. 
 

Deep and A Train just ain’t that bright. 
 

Very gee of these people are good. Kimiko is terrifying and a spree killer and a monster.  Ask the oligarch’s women. Ask Kimiko. 

Edited July 8, 2022 by Affogato