secnarf January 9, 2022 Share January 9, 2022 Quote Music Joe is invited to sing the national anthem at the Giants game. Cop Joe bonds with a new friend over their shared love of football. Nurse Joe and Jenny each get a win of their own. Original air date: Jan 10 2022 Link to comment
Bumblebee84047 January 11, 2022 Share January 11, 2022 Rocker Joe is an ass. That is all. 4 Link to comment
circumvent January 11, 2022 Share January 11, 2022 If the time that it takes for someone to post a comment after the episode is any indication of how the show is doing, we can be sure that it is already cancelled. For good reason because JFC, it is bad. What irritated me the most in this episode was the disability representation. It is great that they are hiring disabled actors - or maybe disabled people to act (as long as they are also paying them) because this is important. But they are also going deep into inspiration porn territory. The way they do it with the guests, in little doses are fine, they are sowing how disabled people are just people but then they do a whole episode on the kid that is so perfect, he is not even human. I mean, the kid is a kid. Kids are annoying sometimes, they drive people crazy, any adult needs a break from kids from time to time. All the love in the world doesn't change that. But not Chris/Lucas/Zeke. He is not only SUPER SMART! he is also ADORABLE! has PERFECT PITCH! is UNDERSTANDABLE! SO MATURE! a ROCK STAR! EVERY GIRL is driven to him. Disable kids can, and usually are, annoying, whiny, a pain in the ass, they lie, they cheat, they manipulate, becasue they are KIDS. Make this kid a human being and the character will improve. Right now, he is just UGH 3 minutes ago, Bumblebee84047 said: Rocker Joe is an ass. That is all. To be fair, you could say that about 99% of the characters in this show. I am still trying to find out the 1% that is not 2 Link to comment
FnkyChkn34 January 11, 2022 Share January 11, 2022 Does Rocker Joe have a substance abuse problem that we just haven't really seen yet? I don't really blame him for being mad at his wife - she's pregnant with another man's baby. That's going to take some time... But thinking it's a good idea to take disabled bio-son on tour? Not only is that a bad idea in general, but before even mentioning it to the kid's parents?? That's just messed up. Was he high or drunk to think that's a good idea? Rocker Joe was my favorite Joe, I guess, but now maybe Cop Joe is. Joe is better when paired with Amy rather than Jenny, but now all of the Joes kinda suck. 2 Link to comment
magicdog January 11, 2022 Share January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, circumvent said: If the time that it takes for someone to post a comment after the episode is any indication of how the show is doing, we can be sure that it is already cancelled. For good reason because JFC, it is bad Ditto! I checked before I went to work last night and nothing!! I guess I'm not the only one losing interest. 1 hour ago, FnkyChkn34 said: Does Rocker Joe have a substance abuse problem that we just haven't really seen yet? Seems like they're giving him one with the alcohol. As if dealing with Frank's drinking issues wasn't enough. 1 hour ago, Bumblebee84047 said: Rocker Joe is an ass. That is all. I don't blame him for being pissed at Amy and the revelation she's pregnant with Diaz' baby. I was surprised his mom was willing to embrace her, because if that happened to my son, I'd be choking her! Amy made a VERY bad choice and she needs to live with the consequences. You can't expect your husband to be thrilled about you not only having cheated on him, but got knocked up by said guy! 1 hour ago, FnkyChkn34 said: thinking it's a good idea to take disabled bio-son on tour? Not only is that a bad idea in general, but before even mentioning it to the kid's parents?? That's just messed up. I agree. It's one thing to bring him onstage once or twice like they have while in NY, but tours are stressful and and lot of work. I've heard many people say they're often like a blur. He had no right to ask because reality of daily life of the poor and unknown takes precedence. Not practical. In reality he should take a step back and let the kid live his life. 1 hour ago, circumvent said: the kid that is so perfect, he is not even human. I mean, the kid is a kid. Kids are annoying sometimes, they drive people crazy, any adult needs a break from kids from time to time. All the love in the world doesn't change that. But not Chris/Lucas/Zeke. He is not only SUPER SMART! he is also ADORABLE! has PERFECT PITCH! is UNDERSTANDABLE! SO MATURE! a ROCK STAR! EVERY GIRL is driven to him THIS! Why is he like the once and future disabled savior of the world? At least one incarnation of him should be a little bratty. No one makes fun of him and girls have crushes on him - really? Not that he should be spat upon or not have friends but it's getting silly. 8 Link to comment
JKL845 January 11, 2022 Share January 11, 2022 (edited) It seems to me like someone found the kid and wanted to do a show around him. He wouldn't be able to carry the whole show, so they came up with this. Doesn't work for me. I do like the kid at times and would like to see him in something else, as a side character. Edited January 11, 2022 by JKL845 1 Link to comment
KaveDweller January 12, 2022 Share January 12, 2022 I just got around to watching this. In this episode I was most annoyed at the cop universe's Jenny and her husband. They don't tell Joe he has a kid for 10 years. They lie to Lucas about who his father is. They ask Joe to donate blood. Then they get mad because Joe tries to give the kid a gift and spend time with him? I mean, I get that they don't want Lucas to know the truth. But Joe was kind of wronged in this scenario. In the rocker universe I get the parent's anger because from what they know Joe gave the kid up for adoption. And Joe asked him to go on tour which is a huge disruption on their lives and probably not good for the kid. But cop Joe just wanted to give his son the hat. And Lucas deserves to know who his real dad is. 7 Link to comment
brokenwing29 January 12, 2022 Share January 12, 2022 27 minutes ago, KaveDweller said: I just got around to watching this. In this episode I was most annoyed at the cop universe's Jenny and her husband. They don't tell Joe he has a kid for 10 years. They lie to Lucas about who his father is. They ask Joe to donate blood. Then they get mad because Joe tries to give the kid a gift and spend time with him? I mean, I get that they don't want Lucas to know the truth. But Joe was kind of wronged in this scenario. In the rocker universe I get the parent's anger because from what they know Joe gave the kid up for adoption. And Joe asked him to go on tour which is a huge disruption on their lives and probably not good for the kid. But cop Joe just wanted to give his son the hat. And Lucas deserves to know who his real dad is. Not to mention they have other children whose lives would also be disrupted...though in this universe, everyone from 1 to 100 seems to be a huge Joe Kimbrough fan, so they'd probably love it. Agree that they are getting really schmaltzy about the boy's character. It's not just biology that makes us who we are. Environment has at least as much to do with it, and he's the same in every time line. Also, I think about people watching at home who have similar disabilities thinking 'why isn't my life that perfect?' Okay, he is facing an operation in one universe, but they aren't really showing what it's truly like to be in that situation, or to have a child who is. They are working too hard to make him likable instead of making him seem real. Also, why is Music Amy just assuming she is going to have this baby? She was told she couldn't carry a child and has had multiple miscarriages. I mean, she probably WILL have it, or at least not miscarry until the last minute because it will cause more drama that way, but Amy doesn't realize she is a fictional character whose writers are insulting their audience's intelligence. I just feel like she'd be more wary and assume that the pregnancy won't end well. Too bad, I feel like this started out a decent show. I'm still interested enough to watch, but I don't know how many others will be. 5 Link to comment
njbchlover January 12, 2022 Share January 12, 2022 (edited) I've been watching and I liked this show, but I agree with everyone here about Chris/Lukas/Zeke. He just never has a bad day or a bad attitude. He's too perfect to be a typical tween, never mind one with some severe disabilities. And, in every part (rocker, cop, nurse), he is just as perfect as the others. I also think that other parts of the show are pretty unbelievable. One thing that really bothers me is Joe's Mom. In the cop part and nurse part, she is dressed and made up as some kind of homespun, downtrodden-looking, drab housewife. At least in the rocker part, she looks more put together and more made-up. Her house, also, is very dark and foreboding, with no joy. I know that she seems to still be in mourning for Joe's Dad, but 20 years?? I get it, that people need to mourn for however long they need to, but I just get depressed seeing any scenes in that house. I guess the director wants to portray an underlying sense of overall sadness in those scenes, although I don't know why. Believe me, I get it - I live in an area that was extremely hard hit by losses on 9/11, including several friends' spouses and parents of my children's friends. Every one of them have gotten on with their lives at this point and are actually happy. None of their houses are frozen in time and shadowed by grief and sadness. The other thing I don't understand about Joe's Mom's house is the absolute out-datedness of every single thing in the house - it's like it was frozen in time, with not one thing updated or replaced. This might sound harsh, but Joe's Mom must have received the same fairly sizable settlement that other cop/firefighter widows received, so money isn't an issue with replacing the 25 year old furniture, 30 year old fake wood paneling, adding a new coat of paint to the walls or, hell, even replacing the 40 year old appliances in the kitchen. I know that stuff isn't important to some people, but I just don't get it. I really just don't like any of the characters. I liked Rocker Joe, but I don't like the direction he's going now, especially with his son. Cop Joe is too sweet and too nice and Nurse Joe is just "there"....so not really doing too much. I don't like ANY of the Jenny's, I don't like Amy and, I hate to say it, I don't even like the Chris/Lukas/Zeke character. I wonder how this show is doing in the ratings - can't be doing that well. Edited January 12, 2022 by njbchlover 2 Link to comment
magicdog January 12, 2022 Share January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, njbchlover said: The other thing I don't understand about Joe's Mom's house is the absolute out-datedness of every single thing in the house - it's like it was frozen in time, with not one thing updated or replaced. This might sound harsh, but Joe's Mom must have received the same fairly sizable settlement that other cop/firefighter widows received, so money isn't an issue with replacing the 25 year old furniture, 30 year old fake wood paneling, adding a new coat of paint to the walls or, hell, even replacing the 40 year old appliances in the kitchen. I know that stuff isn't important to some people, but I just don't get it. I grew up with people who weren't changing the decor that often. I can understand leaving furniture alone until it breaks. However I think it may be more of a set thing, since the show has three timelines and it's easier to leave things the same in all three than having to redress the set. 2 hours ago, njbchlover said: One thing that really bothers me is Joe's Mom. In the cop part and nurse part, she is dressed and made up as some kind of homespun, downtrodden-looking, drab housewife. At least in the rocker part, she looks more put together and more made-up. I noticed this too and I think it's because Rocker Joe has the money to make it possible. Even his sister Celeste had a business thanks to Joe's largesse so I can see his mom getting frequent spa days and professional stylists giving her makeovers. 1 Link to comment
circumvent January 12, 2022 Share January 12, 2022 6 hours ago, njbchlover said: I also think that other parts of the show are pretty unbelievable. One thing that It is really bothers me is Joe's Mom. In the cop part and nurse part, she is dressed and made up as some kind of homespun, downtrodden-looking, drab housewife. At least in the rocker part, she looks more put together and more made-up. Her house, also, is very dark and foreboding, with no joy. This is to emphasize the class differences of the three timelines. It does't bother me because it is used in virtually every TV show. Poor people need to look not only poor, but often tacky, when there is a class component in the story. As for furniture, I guess this should be the norm, really. We sue and throw out too many things just because we can, and tis generates a lot of consumerism and destroys the environement - new product, transportation, fossil fuel, plus a landfill full of perfectly useful things. I am all for keeping till it falls apart 9 hours ago, KaveDweller said: In this episode I was most annoyed at the cop universe's Jenny and her husband. They don't tell Joe he has a kid for 10 years. They lie to Lucas about who his father is. They ask Joe to donate blood. Then they get mad because Joe tries to give the kid a gift and spend time with him? I mean, I get that they don't want Lucas to know the truth. But Joe was kind of wronged in this scenario. I was wondering where the girls were during the game. I don't think they were even mentioned. I agree that Joe would be excited and wanting to spend time with the kid but the situation os only bad because he is a man baby that thinks that his feelings are all pure and more important than anyone else's. As unfair it might seem., the kid is now old enough to understand things - and this super special kid would absolutely be the most understanding (eye roll) - but it is not his kid. He needs to respect the family, the dynamics of the family, and talk to the parent's first. It is like Zeke's father in the rocker timeline said. Back off. Thanks for your concern but we are a family, you are not part of it. Link to comment
magicdog January 12, 2022 Share January 12, 2022 17 hours ago, KaveDweller said: cop Joe just wanted to give his son the hat. And Lucas deserves to know who his real dad is. Just as with Zeke (Rocker timeline), Lucas has a father, and while Joe is his bio dad, he didn't raise him and knowing the truth at this point would only shatter him. Not all truths need to be laid bare. Link to comment
tennisgurl January 12, 2022 Share January 12, 2022 (edited) I know that Rocker Joe was being a jerk, and he is generally the biggest ass of the three Joe's, but I can understand why he's upset. I don't think its been that long since he found out that Amy cheated on him, and then that she's pregnant with the guy's child, that's a whole lot to take in, but all of his family and friends all seem to want him to forgive Amy right away and just move forward. I know its awkward, because they love Amy and Joe, but I can see why he feels angry that everyone seems to be focusing so much on how he needs to forgive Amy instead of seeing how he's doing. He could have handled this better, but so could everyone else. Of course, he lost me again with inviting Lucas to go on tour with him without asking his parents first, which is frankly an insane thing to spring on a family. A tour, even with the best of everything, is often extremely tiring for an adult, let alone a kid, let alone a kid with special needs, plus with the other two kids, parents who work, kids who go to school, its so selfish of him to just assume that these people can just put their lives on hold so that Joe can finally live out his dad dreams. He also isn't really wrong that almost everyone in his life kind of lives off of him. Rockstar Uncle Frank is the best uncle Frank because he works for Joe, his sister gets to run a hipster business because of Joe's money, his best friend works for him, it must be weird when so many of your family and friends depend on you for their careers. We really should just call in the Pope to see if he wants to fastback Lucas to sainthood even before death, because there has never in the history of the world been a kid so sickly perfect. No matter what universe or who raises him, he's always cheerful, insightful, wise beyond his years, great at everything, its like he's about to ascend into the heavens at any moment, he's the best kid ever in the entire multiverse. Honestly, as charming as the actor is, its pretty annoying. It leads you to wonder if Joe would be so obsessed with reconnecting to a more normal kid who had bad moods or could be bratty or get frustrated with their medical problems. I would like to think so, but every version of Lucas is so perfect, its hard to know. Cop Joe Jenny and her husband are really unlikable. I can get not wanting to shake up their whole family dynamic because of their lie, but they need to stop acting like Joe is the bad guy in all of this, he's the one who was lied to by his supposed best friend and was only told the truth when they needed something from him. There are things I do like about this show, but its losing me. Edited January 12, 2022 by tennisgurl 7 Link to comment
KaveDweller January 13, 2022 Share January 13, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, magicdog said: Just as with Zeke (Rocker timeline), Lucas has a father, and while Joe is his bio dad, he didn't raise him and knowing the truth at this point would only shatter him. Not all truths need to be laid bare. The difference between Rocker timeline and Cop timeline, is that in Rocker timeline, Zeke knows he was adopted and that his biological parents were out in the world somewhere. And when he asked to meet them, his parents agreed because they thought it was best for him. In Cop timeline, Jenny and her husband lied to Lucas for seemingly no reason, other than they wanted to make their lives easier and create their own family. It isn't a case of the biological parents giving up the kid, or being a deadbeat dad, they just hid the existence of Joe's kid from him. Joe WOULD have raised him if he knew he existed. It is a crappy thing to do to both Joe and Lucas. Lucas will likely find out the truth someday and better to tell him sooner than later. Plus, I don't see why it would shatter him, as has been pointed out, he is emotionally perfect. It may make him angry at Jenny, but so what? People deserve to know the truth about where they come from, especially if they have medical problems. And people have a right to know if they have a child out there. (Unless we are talking about abusive killers or something, which we are not on this show). Edited January 13, 2022 by KaveDweller 5 Link to comment
sas616 January 13, 2022 Share January 13, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 12:21 PM, circumvent said: But not Chris/Lucas/Zeke. He is not only SUPER SMART! he is also ADORABLE! has PERFECT PITCH! is UNDERSTANDABLE! SO MATURE! a ROCK STAR! EVERY GIRL is driven to him. It's all WAY TOO MUCH for me. The writers have him turned him into a smug know-it-all. Zeke giving Rocker Joe advice on the stage production, sounding like a 35 year-old man was ridiculous. There's nothing likable about the character. Now that I think about it, I could say that about nearly every character now. Sort of why I gave up on New Amstersdam and This is Us. I really liked this show in the beginning, but think I'm done with this one too. 3 Link to comment
LittleIggy January 13, 2022 Share January 13, 2022 NBC is promoting OJ very well. I didn’t know they were showing new episodes until the second new episode had aired. Link to comment
Lady Calypso January 13, 2022 Share January 13, 2022 The actor who plays Chris/Lucas/Zeke IS talented and a great actor, but I agree that they're making him too perfect, maybe to overcompensate for the audience with his disability, but it's clear that he's talented enough to handle a story where he doesn't need to be handling issues like an adult would. Though, to be fair, none of these characters are really likeable. They all kind of suck in various ways, in various timelines. The Rocker storyline is too dramatic for me. There's too much going on. Amy's a cheater and pregnant with her dead affair partner's baby. Joe was hiding Zeke's existence from Amy for a while and now is bonding with the kid. Oh, but he's also angry with Amy so he's lashing out and now might be an alcoholic. Jenny hid this secret from everyone and is angry and also now having issues in her marriage. Way too much too soon. I need a long break from the Rocker storyline because all of it is depressing. Not that the Nurse timeline is much better. Two potential affair storylines don't really work for me either. Kinsley is ALSO way too perfect. Chris is fine for me in this timeline, but only because I know his presence is only needed in this one. I think it's too much for him to be in the other ones, especially the Rocker timeline. Cop timeline is alright, BUT re-introducing Lucas there and having that start to become a focus is slipping it down. I used to like it; we had some great stuff with Joe and his family, Joe/Amy are cute there, Jenny's in it just enough and is likeable, but the drama they have there now is making it hard to watch. I just think they need to be cutting back on certain aspects in each timeline. The Rocker timeline needs to cut back on: a) Zeke and his parents and b) Jenny and her husband. There's already enough with Amy's pregnancy and Joe's spiraling. As much as I'd rather Amy not be pregnant, it seems like she'll have Bobby's baby, and that's already more than enough. Nurse timeline needs to cut back on one of the potential affairs. Yes, we're getting more Kinsley but she needs to be less...just less in general. They introduced Alcoholic Frank a few episodes ago. I wouldn't hate to get back to that. And they need to deal with Jenny/Joe in general. Cop Timeline needs to put Lucas in the background permanently. His storyline is not needed beyond Joe helping out. I know he just discovered he has a kid and they have to make it different than the Rocker timeline, but less is more. Link to comment
circumvent January 13, 2022 Share January 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said: The actor who plays Chris/Lucas/Zeke IS talented and a great actor, but I agree that they're making him too perfect, maybe to overcompensate for the audience with his disability, but it's clear that he's talented enough to handle a story where he doesn't need to be handling issues like an adult would. The part that is in bold = inspiration porn. Detrimental to disabled people, the opposite of advocation for better representation and equity. By doing what the writers are doing, they make it impossible for real disabled people to be seen as human beings because if they don't match up to this impossible character, they get dehumanized. If their intention was to give voice to disabled, they failed miserably. As for the actor being talented, maybe. He either is talented and the producers don't trust him - therefore making him the same in all timelines - or he is not talented and has to be the same in all timelines. I guess we will never know. As far as I am concerned, he is just annoying and I hate the character in all timelines. 29 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said: Though, to be fair, none of these characters are really likeable. They all kind of suck in various ways, in various timelines. Isn't that the truth! 1 Link to comment
Lady Calypso January 13, 2022 Share January 13, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 10:04 AM, circumvent said: The part that is in bold = inspiration porn. Detrimental to disabled people, the opposite of advocation for better representation and equity. By doing what the writers are doing, they make it impossible for real disabled people to be seen as human beings because if they don't match up to this impossible character, they get dehumanized. If their intention was to give voice to disabled, they failed miserably. I agree with this. It's such a shame, too. I would have enjoyed seeing Zeke be angry at his biological parents for giving him up. I would have loved to see Chris be less perfect and more angry at his parents not living in the same state. Give the actor more to do that's more three dimensional because, from what I've seen, the actor could clearly deliver. I've seen crappy kid actors before; this kid isn't one of them. He has excellent delivery with his lines that I've seen other kid actors do not so well at. Honestly, he holds his own with some of the adult actors on this show, so let him showcase his talent. He grew up in three different timelines with three VASTLY different outcomes. He should be different in all three. It's not like the adults, who were adult age when the timelines diverged. 3 Link to comment
scruff January 13, 2022 Share January 13, 2022 Music Joe's Mother finally finds out how Amy has ruined and destroyed her son's marriage, how she has completely shattered , emasculated and destroyed her son on a deeply Personal level and how does she react ? She Hugs Amy, tells her she Loves her, tells her Joe will "come around and needs her" , and calls the baby a "blessing" . Then conspires and ambushes Joe later at the stadium, trying to shame and guilt him into speaking to amy because she is his "wife" I mean Seriously ? Wow. Words cannot Verbalize how Outrageous , Unsettling and Wrong that is. NO MOTHER on this planet, or any other planet in the multiverse , would say these things or react this way towards someone that had Just done all of those Terrible, Horrible and Unforgivable things to their son. That is another major thing wrong with this show. The way the characters ( except Joe ) and the writers/writing are treating this entire Situation. Its trying so hard to tell the viewer that it is all ok to do this and not a big deal. Its trying so hard to Villainize and demonize Joe for his Anger, Hurt, Outrage and Feelings of Complete Betrayal, while at the same time making Amy out to be the helpless little Victim and completely absolve her of all her disgraceful, abhorrent and deviant Behavior. She sprinted out and Cheated on Joe. She had SEX with another man, who was also MARRIED and had a Child. She is now PREGNANT with ANOTHER MAN'S baby and is now Hell bent on Having the baby. Does anyone else recall in a earlier episode after they had their last miscarriage what amy did and said ? She just announced/declared/proclaimed/decreed to Joe that she was "done" with trying/having children. End, Over, No chance, thanks for playing. There was no talk, no discussion, no debate, no exchange of ideas or thoughts, Joe did not even get to open his Mouth or have an opinion. Now however she Cannot wait to have Another Man's baby. Meanwhile somehow this is all Joe's Fault, he is the cause and the blame, he is the bad guy in all this ? I mean Seriously ? It is just expected of him and he is just supposed to be all happy hunky dory with raising ANOTHER MAN'S baby and being reminded EVERY DAY for the rest of his life as to what his wife did ? Basically the writing/writers and all other characters ( except joe ) are Telling the Viewers that it is ok and expected that Joe just goes along with being a Weak, sad, pathetic Little Cuckhold that has no Dignity, Integrity or self Respect. Seriously ? What Amy did to Joe was Vile, Disgusting, Despicable and Reprehensible . Yet somehow she is being Portrayed as the innocent little Victim , as the actual wronged Party, as the actual one is who is hurt and suffering ? The fact that No other character ( besides Joe ) has/ or will call Amy out on her Shameful actions and instead just enable Her is so Wrong and Dishonest and disingenuous and Dangerous. It is a Great example of truly what is Wrong in Today's Society. This is just yet another show that promotes, encourages, excuses, justifies, rationalizes, glorifies and Romanticizes INFIDELITY. I just cannot comprehend how anyone on this Forum or anyone that has seen this show can be Ok with that. 2 Link to comment
brokenwing29 January 14, 2022 Share January 14, 2022 I don't see why Joe's son needs to be in all three timelines anyway. Yes, he was conceived before the timeline split so he would still exist, but Joe doesn't have to know that except in Nurse Joe. It seems redundant to have him deal with a similar storyline in all three universes. I think the show would be better (and easier to follow) if the major differences were not Joe's careers, but the people in his life. Cop Joe did not have to coincidentally reunite with Amy after ten years either...and they both remember each other...and happen to both be single and hit it off. He could have a different wife, life circumstances, different kids or no kids, dealing with different internal issues like maybe depression or addictions. Maybe the writers thought that would make the cast too big or make Joe seem like three different characters? 2 Link to comment
bros402 January 15, 2022 Share January 15, 2022 So, this show would be so much better without Rocker Joe - just make it Nurse Joe and Cop Joe. Maybe have Cop Joe try to become a musician after he pisses off the police. Jurse is probably going to earn some money selling his pants - why not having something similar with Cop Joe if they were to do the show differently? I want to like this show more than I do, but it is just so congested - it reminds me of Awake with Jason Isaacs because of the multiple reality concept. Awake pulled it off better because it had a much better cast, much better writers, AND it only had two timelines to deal with. Three timelines, to quote a Price Is Right game, THAT'S TOO MUCH On 1/11/2022 at 12:21 PM, circumvent said: If the time that it takes for someone to post a comment after the episode is any indication of how the show is doing, we can be sure that it is already cancelled. For good reason because JFC, it is bad. What irritated me the most in this episode was the disability representation. It is great that they are hiring disabled actors - or maybe disabled people to act (as long as they are also paying them) because this is important. But they are also going deep into inspiration porn territory. The way they do it with the guests, in little doses are fine, they are sowing how disabled people are just people but then they do a whole episode on the kid that is so perfect, he is not even human. I mean, the kid is a kid. Kids are annoying sometimes, they drive people crazy, any adult needs a break from kids from time to time. All the love in the world doesn't change that. But not Chris/Lucas/Zeke. He is not only SUPER SMART! he is also ADORABLE! has PERFECT PITCH! is UNDERSTANDABLE! SO MATURE! a ROCK STAR! EVERY GIRL is driven to him. Disable kids can, and usually are, annoying, whiny, a pain in the ass, they lie, they cheat, they manipulate, becasue they are KIDS. Make this kid a human being and the character will improve. Right now, he is just UGH To be fair, you could say that about 99% of the characters in this show. I am still trying to find out the 1% that is not This this this this this - the inspiration porn is annoying me so much. Speechless handled this so well by showing that, yes, disabled people can be assholes too. Also, we aren't shining beacons of pure light who can do no wrong. We can be nice, but we are normal people who can have bad days - we get tired, we get mad, we get sad, but TV doesn't like to show that. 4 Link to comment
scruff January 16, 2022 Share January 16, 2022 Just had a few more notes to make that only further prove my above Post. The attitude that Amy has towards Joe is Laughable. Amy is mad and upset with Joe now ? She is all Hurt and offended and outraged and Insulted with Joe because he is the ONLY character actually holding her accountable ? Seriously ? Its all ok though right ? I mean she does say she is "willing" to do therapy and actually "do the work" , lol. That is so big of her, as if she is doing Joe a FAVOR. In what reality does Amy have the right to act all high and almighty, preachy, self righteous, having the moral/ethical high ground and Sanctimonious towards Joe ? The reality of make believe perhaps ? Anyone recall from a few episodes ago after Amy SLEPT with Diaz, what was the one and only thing she was worried about/ did not want to have happen ? Fear not I am going to give you the answer. The ONLY thing she cared about and the ONLY thing she was worried about/ did not want to happen was " I don't want Joe to Ever find out" . Yet somehow she is the victim and Joe is the bad guy and at fault right ? Well that is what the writers/writing Truly want you to believe. Plus just wanted to make a comment or 2 about good ole Friend Eric who most people on this forum feel and think is such a swell guy, great friend and great person. He is Mr neutral , mr I don't want to get in the middle, mr I am not taking sides, Mr I love both of you, mr I am on both of your sides, right ? EXCEPT most people here seem to forget something. Good ole Eric KNEW amy SLEPT with Diaz. Amy Knew that he Knew. Good ole Eric then CHOSE to Protect Amy and Keep her Secret and NOT tell Joe . Well Newsflash, but that is in fact TAKING A SIDE. So Exactly how is Good ole Eric supposed to be this great Friend towards Joe ? This just continues by its writers/writing to be a show that promotes, encourages, excuses, justifies, rationalizes, glorifies and Romanticizes INFIDELITY. I just cannot comprehend how anyone on this Forum or anyone that has seen this show can be Ok with that. 1 Link to comment
KittyQ February 7, 2022 Share February 7, 2022 Granted that in the past few years our expectations of politicians’ personal behavior have been lowered, but does Amy really expect she’s going to get elected while she’s pregnant with the baby of her one night stand with her married boss? Running against the wife of that guy? Delusional! Link to comment
KaveDweller February 9, 2022 Share February 9, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 7:12 PM, KittyQ said: Granted that in the past few years our expectations of politicians’ personal behavior have been lowered, but does Amy really expect she’s going to get elected while she’s pregnant with the baby of her one night stand with her married boss? Running against the wife of that guy? Delusional! Well she didn't decide to run knowing she was pregnant, that came after. But the public wouldn't have to know she was pregnant with Bobby's baby. I think she was hoping Joe would forgive her and they could tell people he was the father. Also, I am not sure the timing of the election, maybe they wouldn't even have to find out about the pregnancy beforehand. Link to comment
KittyQ February 9, 2022 Share February 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, KaveDweller said: Well she didn't decide to run knowing she was pregnant, that came after. But the public wouldn't have to know she was pregnant with Bobby's baby. I think she was hoping Joe would forgive her and they could tell people he was the father. Also, I am not sure the timing of the election, maybe they wouldn't even have to find out about the pregnancy beforehand. I can believe that Amy might hope that Joe would forgive her, and they would present the baby as his. However, you can't forget Bobby's wife who was blindsided by the one-night stand and Amy putting her husband's watch into the casket in front of everyone. I don't think that's a woman who would accept the party line that Joe was the baby's father. I think that campaign would get ugly very fast. Link to comment
KaveDweller February 10, 2022 Share February 10, 2022 23 hours ago, KittyQ said: I can believe that Amy might hope that Joe would forgive her, and they would present the baby as his. However, you can't forget Bobby's wife who was blindsided by the one-night stand and Amy putting her husband's watch into the casket in front of everyone. I don't think that's a woman who would accept the party line that Joe was the baby's father. I think that campaign would get ugly very fast. Fair point. But she may not want to reveal her husband cheated on her, she has little kids who would hear about it, plus no proof. Amy could deny it and say it is sick to trash a dead man. It would certainly get ugly though. Amy may not be totally thinking clearly though. I can understand her not dropping out the second she finds out she is pregnant, she doesn't want to admit it is the end of her dream. She already is struggling to admit her marriage is over, she has to cling to something. Link to comment
Camera One April 8, 2022 Share April 8, 2022 This show is kind of like seeing the same awkward situation play out multiple different times/ways. Cop Joe was so okay with being lied to about his son that it felt unrealistic. Rocker Joe was very pushy with wanting to connect with his son, while Cop Joe seemed the exact opposite. I keep thinking about whether Joe's personality is actually consistent in the three timelines, or had they diverged significantly due to his life circumstances. It's hard to tell if these three Joes are even the same person if not played by the same actor. I suppose Cop Joe's passiveness did change by the end of the episode when he went over with the baseball cap, though his motivation felt more innocent, whereas Rocker Joe inviting his son on tour was clearly over the line and inconsiderate to his adoptive parents (it seemed more of a way of showing that Rocker Joe was spiraling out, combined with his drinking and anger). I'm not sure why Jenny and her husband invited Cop Joe over, if the husband felt so threatened by Joe. It might have been nice to show Nurse Joe and Jenny experience some success without the tension of the potential adultery waiting in the wings. I wish they didn't introduce the caregiver or the overly chummy co-worker. Why does there always need to be so much drama. I can't say this is the type of show I would rewatch, though at times, I still think the concept is interesting, like seeing where that baseball cap ended up in the three timelines. Overall, I thought this episode was better than some. I don't think this format could have stayed fresh for more than one season. There are only two episodes left, and I hope there is some payoff at the end, though I'm not sure what that would be. And I'm not hopeful for all the shows I've watched that had been cancelled after a season, and ended with a cliffhanger or just a lack of resolution. Link to comment
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