S13.E15: Memory Lane & a Dirty Little Secret

[Emma Snyder]

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With less than two weeks until Decision Day, the spouses revisit their pasts in order to discover more about one another. However, when a secret is revealed within one couple it threatens to break their marriage and future.

Airs Wednesday Oct 27 at 8PM EDT. 

As always, this is a spoiler-free topic. If it did not happen yet, please do not discuss.

[Crashcourse]

Michaela is lying her ass off and trying to play victim, and Dr. Pepper is sitting there looking stupid and like she's taking a dump in that chair.   I was glad Zack got up and got the hell outta there.

[buttersister]

The editors are #TeamZach! Me, too.

Michaela, there’s video. Get help from a real therapist.

Pepper can fuck all the way off. 

[Retired at last]

OK, that is sounding like something good to watch (it doesn't start here for 2 hours, so I always read these posts first to decide if I want to watch).

[kristen111]

Good for Zack.  He left Michaela and Pepper in the dust.  Only he knows how she is .. not Pepper.  Pepper doesn’t know how bad Michaela is, so she should shut the hell up.  Michaela is lying thru her teeth and is insane.  I’m proud of him for doing what is best for himself, not Pepper or Michaela.  There are two sides to Michaela.  Didn’t Pepper watch the video?

[kristen111]

So now some are blaming their parents for being fucked up.  There are many CEO’s of Major Company’s who grew up in orphanages without parents.  They strived for something and made something good out of their lives.  No excuses, Johnny.  You are a spoiled wimp.  Face it and move on with your life and stop acting like a whittle baby.

[kristen111]

27 minutes ago, buttersister said:

The editors are #TeamZach! Me, too.

Michaela, there’s video. Get help from a real therapist.

Pepper can fuck all the way off. 

Pepper only cares how stupid she looks when they can’t get along.  She’s the one who picked them.  Useless.

[Kira53]

29 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Michaela is lying her ass off and trying to play victim, and Dr. Pepper is sitting there looking stupid and like she's taking a dump in that chair.   I was glad Zack got up and got the hell outta there.

I think Michaela believes what she saying.  her “perspective“ as Dr. pepper says. “He has no evidence of me reacting badly to him.“ She really is nutty nutty. That seems really delusional. Not just a perspective.

[Retired at last]

I would LOVE it if they made Michaela sit and watch last week's video with the "experts" all there and see how she tries to justify her behaviors.

[Crashcourse]

1 minute ago, Kira53 said:

I think Michaela believes what she saying.  her “perspective“ as Dr. pepper says. “He has no evidence of me reacting badly to him.“ She really is nutty nutty. That seems really delusional. Not just a perspective.

I don't think she believes what she said about Zack having no evidence of her reacting badly to him.  She's crafty and nutty enough to use the "abandonment" issue because her father died and she'll use that excuse every time she goes off.  

[Cancun]

3 minutes ago, Kira53 said:

I think Michaela believes what she saying.  her “perspective“ as Dr. pepper says. “He has no evidence of me reacting badly to him.“ She really is nutty nutty. That seems really delusional. Not just a perspective.

This is the point I actively willed the producers to insert the clip of her storming through the rental house, flipping tables. I suppose she would say, “But he didn’t see that, so it doesn’t count as evidence he has.”

[kristen111]

Johnny needs to join the service and learn how to be a man.  He’s like a little delicate flower.  He has a good decent woman there and still doesn’t know what he wants.  He needs to be disciplined.

[Kira53]

They cast this show based upon the tragic childhoods of almost all of the grooms and brides.  Good tv they hoped.  Not based upon the possibility of good marriages.  I hope some of these people get therapy and give them the therapist a DVD of the show.  Whatever they’re going to tell a therapist is very different than what really happened for quite a few people.

[Meowwww]

Why the fuck is Pepper encouraging them to work it out….in not one but TWO meetings???  Did she not see any video of Michaela’s multiple freak outs?  
I know she gently mentioned it in meeting 1.   But MY GOD. 

And Zach with his waffling.  Ugh. 
 

ETA my dad died.  My mom too.  I’m not flipping tables and wrecking furniture. 

Edited October 28, 2021 by Meowwww

[Crashcourse]

When are they going to show Brett and Ryan?

[Straycat80]

Gil and Myrla are kinda cute together. Who’d have thought that? 

[Crashcourse]

Shut up, Gil.  I'm sorry but his yapping just annoys the hell out of me.

[Meowwww]

5 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Gil and Myrla are kinda cute together. Who’d have thought that? 

They are, but I think she annoys him at a deeper level. 

[Cancun]

Dr. Pepper with that giant glass of water, sitting forward on the edge of her seat and taking a drink while watching tension appear between Gil and Myrla. It was like when someone digs into the popcorn at the best part of a movie. Which is she - the “expert” or part of the audience?

[Crashcourse]

3 minutes ago, Meowwww said:

They are, but I think she annoys him at a deeper level. 

I agree, but I think he annoys her too.  I still think they're putting on an act.

[kristen111]

14 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

When are they going to show Brett and Ryan?

Not much there to say.  He’s crabby, and she’s a doormat.  They are done.

[Koalagirl]

Wow. Not only does Bao need a different husband but she has to get herself some different friends.  

[Straycat80]

Oh wow, Bao’s friend threw her under the bus and Johnny is believing it. If I was Bao I’d kick his whiny ass out the door. And Pepper will encourage them to keep trying *eyeroll*. 

[Kiss my mutt]

Wait, Bao’s Friend said all this about her to Johnny about being a control freak and that she’d never let her friends date her. Some friend, wow!

Ryan and Brett had a few nice non romantic moments. It nice to hear him open up and talk more. I never noticed his accent before since he doesn’t say much.

On a shallow note, I want to dye Brett’s hair a more natural shade and get her new glasses or contacts even. She much prettier than she’s letting herself be. 

[ChiMama]

1 hour ago, buttersister said:

 

The editors are #TeamZach! Me, too.

Michaela, there’s video. Get help from a real therapist.

Pepper can fuck all the way off. 

 

Watching this session with Michaela, Zach & Dr. Pepper was infuriating. His initial gut instinct not to participate was the right one. I’ve been Zach and listened to someone calmly & blatantly lie about themselves while gaslighting me about my own actions. It’s the most helpless, lonely feeling in the world and the ONLY remedy is to get out of that toxic environment - no therapy from a TV “expert” is going to help. Michaela’s calm, cold assessment of the situation was jaw-droppingly chilling — ugh. Triggering™️ — and I’ve come to hate that term & don’t use it lightly. I used to watch this show as a fun voyeur experience while being a sap hoping to see true love come out of an unconventional situation. The last two seasons have not been fun or enjoyable - the angst and anger and cruelty have really been on display when what we all need right now is some frothy heartwarming fun & people we can root for. I’m thinking of taking this off my DVR. It’s a trainwreck and not a good way to spend 2 hrs/week. 

 

Edited October 28, 2021 by ChiMama

[kristen111]

I think I’m gonna cry if Ryan says he wants a divorce from Brett.  She’s too nice.

[Kiss my mutt]

Not cool, that Rachel stayed at her ex’s house when they were fighting. That’s pretty messed up even if nothing happens. He was a total jerk, yes, but this was not to handle it. 

[Meowwww]

Too many Reese’s and Maybelline lipstick commercials. 
I feel for Bao, Johnny talked to her “best friend” and is now done.  Honey, you’ve been done since this started.  Ugh.  He’s awful. 
ETA Brett tried to do her roots, just in front.  Her scalp is stained.  No shade, my roots are showing too. 

Edited October 28, 2021 by Meowwww

[kristen111]

9 minutes ago, Koalagirl said:

Wow. Not only does Bao need a different husband but she has to get herself some different friends.  

What the hell.  Johnny is cruel.  How dare he say that to Pepper?  He’s a worm, even if it was true.

[Crashcourse]

Just now, Kiss my mutt said:

Not cool, that Rachel stayed at her ex’s house when they were fighting. That’s pretty messed up even if nothing happens. He was a total jerk, yes, but this was not to handle it. 

Yeah, I can't believe she couldn't find somewhere else to stay.   I don't even like Jose but I wouldn't trust her anymore.

[buttersister]

I hope Rachel’s ex helped her feel better that night. Jose is a loser—he’s pissed after the shit he pulled?! Get off my TV and take Johnny with you.

[Meowwww]

Omg. FU Johnny.  I hate him.  

[Crashcourse]

I like Johnny.  I don't hate Bao, but she's creepy.

[Straycat80]

Johnny is the worst, I hate how he makes Bao feel like everything is her fault. All he cares about is himself. 
Ryan and Brett are not going to make it either, he’s not into her at all. 
At this point I’m not sure any of these couples will stay together. 

[kristen111]

Why does Rachel talk like a first grader reading a book for the first time?

[Crashcourse]

Brett:  "the difference between Ryan and I."  That's grounds for divorce right there.   

[Kiss my mutt]

Fuck, Ryan, you couldn’t wait a week to download a dating app? It doesn’t matter that you didn’t activate it, the intention is there by downloading it.  I don’t see how he can say otherwise. 

And boom goes the dynamite on this suck ass season. 

[Crashcourse]

I'll be glad when this season is over. It's been painful to watch.

[buttersister]

I called it towards the beginning, Show is batting .000. Matters not what they say on D Day, there’s not a sustainable marriage in the bunch. Hey, San Diego Singles: Hard Pass unless you’re a masochistic famewhore.

[FrankieTankie]

Johnny king of gaslighting…. He’s  a piece of shit … he’s a lil sissy … soft ass … he’s a punk ass 

[kristen111]

So much for Experts.  The three of them stink.  Get them off.  I can’t believe how painful this whole season was as I had high hopes.  What the hell.  Did Production decide to throw some wrenches in, or what?   Doesn’t make sense.  I’m disgusted.

[kristen111]

43 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Oh wow, Bao’s friend threw her under the bus and Johnny is believing it. If I was Bao I’d kick his whiny ass out the door. And Pepper will encourage them to keep trying *eyeroll*. 

Where’s Pastor Cal when you need him?  On Vacation?  Another phony.

[potatochips]

Bao: " I made a thatch hut, put my fake Barbies in it and burned them up. " Whoa...that sounds like a scene from a Halloween movie. I think Johnny is a jerk but she may have some deep rooted issues that should be resolved. 

[LennieBriscoe]

The last scene of the preview is in a billiards room. 

All the women are sitting, with two men as their bookends. These two husbands are looking at the woman speaking, paying attention. 

The remaining three men are standing---apart, aloof, one even behind everyone else. Those men are Zack, Ryan, and Johnny. Looking at their facial expressions and postures, one sees skepticism, defiance, and seething anger, respectively.

These three will opt for divorce. Jose and Gil will choose marriage. 

[Kiss my mutt]

20 minutes ago, potatochips said:

Bao: " I made a thatch hut, put my fake Barbies in it and burned them up. " Whoa...that sounds like a scene from a Halloween movie. I think Johnny is a jerk but she may have some deep rooted issues that should be resolved. 

Wait wut? I must have missed that. Maybe she and Michaela can be best friends. 

[Adeejay]

Bao can’t seem to catch a break; even her “best friend” is against her. With friends like that, you don’t need enemies.  Johnny is grasping at anything that would make him feel better about saying “No” on D-Day; however, at this point, I believe Bao would be relieved.

Zach doesn’t want Michaela and at times appears terrified to be in her presence.  However, he doesn’t seem to have a problem sleeping with her.  He is sending her mixed messages. I can understand why she is confused.

[buttersister]

6 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Bao: " I made a thatch hut, put my fake Barbies in it and burned them up. " Whoa...that sounds like a scene from a Halloween movie.

More like a scene from Platoon. OMG. 😢

Johnny and Ryan are on Unfiltered tonight. Buttersister will not be watching.

[Kimboweena]

Nothing new to add to tonight's episode, it's all been said.  But did you see the upcoming episode title,  S13.E81: Decision Day Dish: Houston.

I don't think I can take 66 more episodes of this season, LOL!

[LennieBriscoe]

1 hour ago, Meowwww said:

They are, but I think she annoys him at a deeper level. 

Maybe so, but I think Myrla also intrigues Gil. 

He's being a dutiful MAFS cast member at this point when he brings up her spending. His "Yeah, but we could have a house sooner if you saved more and better" routine is to keep the storyline going. They at least speak of love and a future.   

But does Myrla want to be criticized every damn day? She played a good game of volleyball, so Gil had to find something else to knock. Oh, wait; he found it! "Old lady still wearing her high school shirt." Not "Looking good, girl!" 

Johnny is a rodent. Vermin. Get his clenched jaws and clenched arse off my screen, STAT!

When I saw that he and Ryan were going to be on "Unfiltered," I immediately canceled the recording. No, thank you.

Don't want to hear Ryan's bogus lies about that Dating App and how he isn't even capable of understanding the wrongness of it. 

And I sure as heck don't want to be exposed to the view from Johnny’s Bizarro World. 

[LennieBriscoe]

1 hour ago, Crashcourse said:

I like Johnny.  I don't hate Bao, but she's creepy.

Then there's Johnny’s Hentai porn hobby. Talk about creepy!

Bao's revelation about her immolating dolls was disturbing, though. That's nascent serial killer stuff right there!