Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[surfgirl]

You know what's weird? Everyone is bemoaning  AliveMartin but nobody is mourning DeadAlan. If Alan was so beloved why don't they mourn HIM? 

Edited April 13 by surfgirl

[ScoobieDoobs]

I don’t mean anyone is looking down on Audra.  It’s her now well-earned rep of being.an untrustworthy snake — that’s why most (if not all) GC’ers are backing away from her when they see her, or cringe at the mention of her name.

Not surprising that Audra mentioned to Sally how her business prospects in GC are zilch.  She pretty much screwed over anyone she ever worked with, so her rep in GC is shit.  Natey can’t get her a job cuz Devon & Lils can’t stand her & she turned down Sally’s offer of help.  And she can’t do the usual nepo baby crap most others in GC do, so writers have set it up so her only other option is to take up Vic’s prostitute deal?  Hate it.

I give Sally credit for not being judgey with Audra.  I sure woulda been.  Sally prob needed to stress to her that she is never gonna have any sort of control when dealing with Vic.  And her over-onfidence in thinking she may start out having at least some control will lead to certain disaster for her.  But Audra clearly wasn’t listening to her.  Sure, she’s being a fool & an idiot, but she’s the only interesting & watchable one left to watch!

[MollyB]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

but I wouldn't call them friends.

it seems that history may repeat itself, when Nick and Sharon get back together and Phyltthy moves in to break it up.  She already convinced him not to go to London and leave her all alone when they hadn't found the Voice yet.

[Denize]

On 4/11/2025 at 9:51 AM, bayviewbubba said:

NinjaPenguins- There used to be a real police station when Pauley Tight Pants was there.  It had offices and phones and everything! Even a cell or two.

And a white board facing the public entrance, for all to see their clues.  Although once they draped a bedsheet over it when they noticed someone snooping.

Edited April 13 by Denize

[boes]

4 hours ago, Denize said:

And a white board facing the public entrance, for all to see their clues.  Although once they draped a bedsheet over it when they noticed someone snooping.

Was that when Detective Courtney, friend and forger for Summer, was killed by Detective Hardon?  Ahhhh, the days of Marco Annicelli, Jack's doppelganger and drug lord. 

Between Courtney, Detective Hardon and Paulie Tightpockets, the GCPD was like a poor man's Baywatch. 

[surfgirl]

Ah yes, Paulie Tightpockets...he was like the Deputy Dog of GC!

[Joimiaroxeu]

10 hours ago, MollyB said:

it seems that history may repeat itself, when Nick and Sharon get back together and Phyltthy moves in to break it up.  She already convinced him not to go to London and leave her all alone when they hadn't found the Voice yet.

Thankfully neither woman can pop out a baby anymore so at least that part of history won't repeat. Not unless they use surrogates. Hey, maybe Audra could rent out her uterus for a few months! 😉

[TVForever]

On 4/11/2025 at 5:25 PM, NinjaPenguins said:

Oh yeah. I remember. Why, Genoa City even used to have a hospital! It’s a shame what’s happened to this once great corporate metropolis, now reduced to a few residences, a single suite, some offices and various eateries where Claire and Kyle can ruin other customers’ appetites with their inane flirting.

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Can we talk about the obvious lack of budget that's causing this, because this show is feeling like it's at the level of a high school play much of the time.

On 4/11/2025 at 6:14 PM, Js Nana said:

. . . but I did think that Christopher Cousins did a great job of playing hysterical psycho when Martin's vanity got the best of him.

Just another case of good actors doing the best they can with the dreck that's being written for them...

On 4/11/2025 at 6:58 PM, lgprimes said:

The one exception to this would be if they brought back Richard Burgi (the first Ashland Locke). I could sit and stare at that man as he recites the alphabet. 

I would love that! A LOT of BDE left the show along with him.

On 4/12/2025 at 1:15 AM, ScoobieDoobs said:

 

Well, she certainly was twisting herself into a pretzel, trying to rationalize (or ignoring?) how Vic was treating her like a prostitute.  Oh, she was definitely ignoring that Vic not only sees her as a prostitute, but as a lowly gutter prostitute.  Maybe that's why Sally kept giving her is-she-fucking-kidding-me-with-this-shit looks?

It's loony enough that Audra is gonna make a deal with Satan, but she really thinks Nate ain't gonna find out?  And Nate is the only one left in GC (other than Holden, who only wants to bang her) who doesn't give her just-smelled-poop looks when they see her.  And there was Sally, again giving her is-she-fucking-kidding-me-with-this-shit looks.

 

Yep, to all of this. I actually had a huge problem with this way back when with Tucker practically pimping her out in similar fashion. It made me very uncomfortable, especially seeing this happen with the show's only Latina character. I doubt it was intentional on the writers' part, but it just wasn't a good look. Not then, not now.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Thanks, Show, for telling us what LDT is cuz I had NO idea!  Guess this is Phyllis speak?  A language I know nothing of & prefer it that way!

Ah, the totally humorless Vicks actually gave me a hearty giggle today.  She asked Nick to concentrate on business.  Ha, thanks for the chuckle, Vicks.

Got another giggle from the weird looks on Sharon’s & Phyllis’ mugs when they were awkwardly hugging.  Yeah, even Diane was skeptical how long this “friendship” would last.  Er, maybe that hug was a hint it wouldn’t be too long, eh?

So the explanation for Martin knowing about the history of S & P is . . . no explanation?  I predicted this would be lame, and yeah, it’s really lame.

Oh and an excuse for Phyllis to babble “Abbott Communications” 10 billion times, which merely emphasized how it’s a “business” that has a name, but NOTHING else.  Sheesh!

Edited April 14 by ScoobieDoobs

[boes]

21 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

He might as well be saying "Bippity" "Boppity" "Boop"!

I think that's how he ends every lovemaking session.   (Alone, or with a partner).

He tried, "That's all, folks!" but he was disappointed by the response.

[pvandal]

I wish Jack would stop referring to Traci as his 'baby sister'. It infantilizes her and I feel that is how they write her and as a younger sister it annoys me. I mean, she's around 60 not 6. Just say sister or if you have to younger.

Edited April 14 by pvandal

[Joimiaroxeu]

Right there with ya, Vikki. We all need a break from Sharon's drama. Our loss will be London's temporary gain. <fingers crossed>

Wow, Sharon got her hair did. Made her look a bit younger, no? But please tell me her and Phyllis both wearing gray today was a coincidence. They're not besties! 

After what Traci just went through, she made time to go apologize to Phyllis and Sharon about Martin? Geez, Traci, maybe think of yourself first for a change. You could've sent those two a text or an email.

8 hours ago, TVForever said:

Can we talk about the obvious lack of budget that's causing this, because this show is feeling like it's at the level of a high school play much of the time.

Yes, it's sad what Y&R has been reduced to. The thing annoying me now is how a character will be in one place and then the next scene we see them in they're somewhere else. No explanation, just "poof," they switch locations. Today they did it with Traci. She was sitting at table in Society and then the next time we saw her she was standing in the middle of the GCAC dining room. Did a transition scene get cut? 🤔  

Edited April 14 by Joimiaroxeu

[surfgirl]

14 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

After what Traci just went through, she made time to go apologize to Phyllis and Sharon about Martin? Geez, Traci, maybe think of yourself first for a change. You could've sent those two a text or an email.

Right? This whole Saint Traci of the Holy Order of Martyrs is so tired and old. For once, Id love to see Traci being bitchy, she's earned it!

[Joimiaroxeu]

Jack, your argument is invalid. You should've told Diane about the potential Martin danger. There is no reasonable excuse for not having done so. Hush.

Nick said Christian is going to try to make one of the Buckingham Palace Guards crack. Christian is invisible so I dunno how that'll work.

Okay Diane, I think you're starting to overplay your hand. If you have issues with Jack's siblings, you need to take it up with them. Putting Jack in a position of having to choose between his wife and his family is a move you can't keep pulling forever.

4 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Thanks, Show, for telling us what LDT is cuz I had NO idea!  Guess this is Phyllis speak?  A language I know nothing of & prefer it that way!

Heh, the googles AI says it means Laboratory Developed Tests. But Urban Dictionary says it means Limp D!ck Trick. Considering who Phyllis was texting with, I'm inclined to go with the UD definition.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Gah, Victoria, climb off Nick's @$$. If he does decide to get back with one of his exes, it ain't up for your approval. BTW, where is your ex, Cole?

Wait, are they going to put Amy in the Abbott family orbit? DO. NOT. WANT. I'd forgotten Amy and Traci knew each other back in day.

Ditto comments upthread, Phyllis was being extra fake with Sharon. Wonder how long she can keep that up? She seems to be barely holding it together.

Bye, Traci. Have fun in the Big Apple. Don't get engaged. 😉

4 hours ago, surfgirl said:

He might as well be saying "Bippity" "Boppity" "Boop"!

I heard Billy did want to use this as the name of his new enterprise but the acronym was already trademarked. The BBB told Billy to cease and desist or they'd stick a lawsuit so far up his hiney, he wouldn't be able to manspread without his crotch looking like a crumpled ream of paper.

Edited April 14 by Joimiaroxeu

[One Tough Cookie]

4 hours ago, boes said:

think that's how he ends every lovemaking session.   (Alone, or with a partner).

..and,,, there goes my oatmeal.

 

1 hour ago, surfgirl said:

Right? This whole Saint Traci of the Holy Order of Martyrs is so tired and old. For once, Id love to see Traci being bitchy, she's earned it!

I'd love to see her bitch slap Philty for no apparent reason. {unless there's history there}.

[Js Nana]

5 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Id love to see Traci being bitchy

I don't think the actress is constitutionally capable of having anything other than a smile on her lips, in fact, I think to see her demonstrating anything other than her joyful persona would be a heartbreaking experience - - well, this is a rather somber comment to post, isn't it.

[NinjaPenguins]

They should rename this show People Talking in One of Three Eateries. It’s unwieldy, but I think it accurately captures the flavor.

Hey, Victoria, if you didn’t mean to blame Sharon, why not choose different words? And, you know, if I was a big time rival corporation, I’d just plant spies among the waitstaff at Crimson Lights, Society and the Athletic Club. It was nice of Victoria to give Nick some coloring books to keep himself amused on the plane. I doubt Noah will be amused that his dad still has that imaginary friend Christian.

Absolutely pointless, circular conversation between Jack and Diane. Not many insights were gleaned from Traci, Phyllis and Sharon either, except that perhaps Sharon shouldn’t try to manage conversations like they’re therapy sessions.

Traci is taking off soon, having played her part as Martin’s dupe in a far fetched tale full of sound and fury signifying fuck all. Something about the emotional fallout from this whole mess just seems… shallow? Hollow? Whatever.

[Sake614]

16 hours ago, pvandal said:

wish Jack would stop referring to Traci as his 'baby sister'. It infantilizes her

I’m 65 and my brother still calls me his baby sister. Doesn’t bother me in the least, but ITA about the way Jack treats Traci.

[SweePea59]

15 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Nick said Christian is going to try to make one of the Buckingham Palace Guards crack. Christian is invisible so I dunno how that'll work.

Funny! Oh, man, that's a scene I'd like to see. Nick and his invisible son in front of the Buckingham Palace Guards. Like a weird and twisted episode of Topper.

[pvandal]

2 hours ago, Sake614 said:

I’m 65 and my brother still calls me his baby sister. Doesn’t bother me in the least, but ITA about the way Jack treats Traci.

Yeah, you're right. I mentioned it to my mom and she said she calls herself "baby sister" to her oldest brother. They are 82 and 76. I guess for me it was more him saying it and also acting like she is helpless.

[MollyB]

4 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Absolutely pointless, circular conversation between Jack and Diane.

And just about everyone in this show does it.  It goes beyond mere exposition for the viewer.  It's sliding into filler territory.  Repeating 'he put (your, our) life in danger' over and over will not make it not have happened.  Move on, ffs.  How many times are we going to hear about Viktor being the hero and taking a bullet for everyone?  Or the rehashing of everyone's relationships?  (Chelz and Adam, Traci and NotAlan, for example.) Or Billy droning on about his nonexistent company and Audra going about how she will get what she deserves in the business world.  Let's get some new stories, writer(s).  

[boes]

21 minutes ago, MollyB said:

It goes beyond mere exposition for the viewer.  It's sliding into filler territory. 

I'm starting to hope they expand their exposition to the heartbreak of psoriasis.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Er, Lils today had the line of the day, week, year, decade, century!  She said to teeny, sharply dressed Damian — “Wow, this makes no sense.”  Really, Lils, ya think?  Uh, no, NONE of Damian’s backstory made ANY sense!

And there’s sexpot Audra in a super sexy va-va-voom dress.  Nobody on this show works a va-va-voom dress like Audra!  But sorry, hun, it still didn’t work to distract Natey from the crap news she had to tell him about working for Satan.

Beautiful Holden sure does drink a lot.  And the drinking sure does make him antagonistic.  And angry/hostile creep Devon’s pronouncement that Damian has no shot with Lils?  That’s the hint they’re gettin’ together despite having zilcho chemistry.  Ah, but they can join the other dull GC couples with zero chemistry — Claire & Pomp, The Cryer & The Weasel . . .

[Denize]

On 4/14/2025 at 1:07 PM, pvandal said:

I wish Jack would stop referring to Traci as his 'baby sister'. 

Thankfully he doesn't call her "Pumpkin" while referring to Ashley as "My Beauty" like his father.

[Denize]

10 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

They should rename this show People Talking in One of Three Eateries. It’s unwieldy, but I think it accurately captures the flavor.

My theory is that they can only afford one camera person and one boom mic so it is easier to have everyone sitting down. Hopefully this means fewer car and plane crash storylines.

[surfgirl]

11 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

They should rename this show People Talking in One of Three Eateries. It’s unwieldy, but I think it accurately captures the flavor.

I'm glad it wasn't just me who noticed this pattern! It's diabolical shoot blocking isn't it?! They could literally have a set stage set with 4 locations, and shoot in sequence, thus omitting an editor. It's also hella boring, visually speaking!

[MsMalin]

Who in the world was the confused chick dressed in yellow looking all confused at the beginning of today's show?

[Joimiaroxeu]

Hey, Holden, Nate's not the only one wondering why you can't seem to figure out how to leave town. We contain multitudes!

Audra, come on. Just tell Nate the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

But Damian, you don't need to tell Lily sh!te. Lily's not entitled to demand you betray your boss, even if you do want to get with her.

5 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Er, Lils today had the line of the day, week, year, decade, century!  She said to teeny, sharply dressed Damian — “Wow, this makes no sense.”

Hmm, Lily should have a sit-down with Sharon and Phyllis and ask them to explain their Martin ordeal.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Geez was Holden being a whiny baby today or what? Bruh. Stop talking about Audra like she's The One Who Got Away. Nobody cares.

Audra doing an angst-filled soliloquy into her phone. No. Just no.

Puhleeze. Damian cannot be as big a fool as he was acting like with Lily. Oral promises are often made to be broken, Damian. You'd better wise up.

So "Aristotle Dumas" is a nom de guerre. This is my shocked face. Who didn't see that coming MONTHS ago?

1 hour ago, Denize said:

Thankfully he doesn't call her "Pumpkin" while referring to Ashley as "My Beauty" like his father.

What the what? I gotta take back every nice thing I've ever said about John Abbott! No wonder Traci struggles with her self-esteem; her daddy was a Grade A a-hole to her. 😡

[ScoobieDoobs]

33 minutes ago, MsMalin said:

Who in the world was the confused chick dressed in yellow looking all confused at the beginning of today's show?

Describing any & all of us, and ANY viewer of this dopey show now?

You know, I caught a few seconds of BTG and couldn’t help noticing their sets are so spacious & gorg!  I wonder if it’s just cuz it’s new & pretty soon their budget will be cut to ribbons like Y&R.

For me, the tip-off to the ratty budget is using that same cramped set for everyone’s room at GCAC.  So even billionaire Jack has to camp out in a room no bigger than something in a Motel 6?  Yeah, teal believable, Show!

Edited April 15 by ScoobieDoobs

[Joimiaroxeu]

Poor Nate. Audra weaponized her cooch to try to soften the impending blow. (😏). He's gonna wish he had Kevlar condoms.

Devon was gabbing via cell to a "Mrs. Abby Winters." Ehhh, Abby's not divorced, writers. Not from Devon, anyway.

If Damian's confession to Lily was remotely true, Dumas being interested in something in GC makes even less sense to me. It's like a killer shark wanting to do laps in a kiddie pool. Too easy.

Geez was Holden being gossipy biach or what? Talking lowkey trash to Devon about Lily & Damian = potential fighting words. In Vesper veritas is not a thing, Holden.

51 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

I'm glad it wasn't just me who noticed this pattern! It's diabolical shoot blocking isn't it?! They could literally have a set stage set with 4 locations, and shoot in sequence, thus omitting an editor. It's also hella boring, visually speaking!

And when the characters make several circuits of same locations in one GC "day" it's hella ridiculous. Apparently JG and his bosses think if they spread the single day out over more than three episodes the viewers won't notice the aburdity. I was amazed the writers had Kyle mention recently how he and Claire had already run into each other at the coffeehouse earlier that day. Someone must be reading the complaints on the soap forums.

[Js Nana]

I have nothing to say about today's show as I fast forwarded through 95% of it - did I miss anything?

[Js Nana]

On 4/14/2025 at 6:35 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

where is your ex, Cole?

In Y&R hibernation until there's a storyline that requires him to make an appearance.

[Kemper]

3 hours ago, Denize said:

My theory is that they can only afford one camera person and one boom mic so it is easier to have everyone sitting down. Hopefully this means fewer car and plane crash storylines.

You know, at this point I would almost welcome a car or plane crash. One of the "regulars" (meaning being on for seemingly every minute of every day) could be involved. Needs facial reconstruction. Ta Da! New character. New plot. Was the car sabotaged? It was a hit and run. Who did it? Who will emerge with a new face, persona, and amnesia from the surgery? Was there a passenger? Who? Where are they? 

There. I have given the outline for the next big story. It cannot be worse than what we have been mostly hate-watching for months.

Edited April 16 by Kemper

[bayviewbubba]

I know, I know, ask me!  Kyle, in the GCAC weight room, the black punching bag of doom usually employed by TGVN comes unmoored and whacks him in the face, then on the back of the head on the rebound, thereby destroying his face and hairdo.  He's in a medically induced coma for 10 days, comes out of it 6 inches taller and immeasurably handsomer, with a strangely British accent.  He remembers nothing of Summer or Claire, thinks he's related to Hugh Grant, and wants to play soccer with David Beckham out in one of the cow patty strewn pastures on the  outskirts of  Genoa City.  Then he chokes on a fresh cheese curd and dies.  Jack cries beautifully and Diane secretly smiles.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Is the Y&R budget so tight, there’ll NEVER be an office for Abbott Communications?  Oh yeah, I forgot — it’s still not actually a real business yet . . . or will it ever be?  Ah, but Billy & Phyllis will keep saying the name 800 million billion trillion times to convince us it is a business, when it’s still nothing.

Man, they’re really giving us zero reason to keep watching, eh?

[pvandal]

15 hours ago, Denize said:

Thankfully he doesn't call her "Pumpkin" while referring to Ashley as "My Beauty" like his father.

I call my cat My Beauty but he's an only child so I feel it's okay. 🤣

[Joimiaroxeu]

11 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Is the Y&R budget so tight, there’ll NEVER be an office for Abbott Communications?  Oh yeah, I forgot — it’s still not actually a real business yet . . . or will it ever be?  Ah, but Billy & Phyllis will keep saying the name 800 million billion trillion times to convince us it is a business, when it’s still nothing.

Man, they’re really giving us zero reason to keep watching, eh?

I'm gonna give Billy a little bit of grace on not having office space for Abbott Communications yet. He was expecting to use the Chancellor offices Jill pulled out from under him and sold to Victor, and he hasn't fully covered from his mommy's betrayal.

In the meantime, Billy's working out of his house like many "new" entrepreneurs do. For example, Bezos started Amazon in the garage of a house he owned. If Billy's lucky, maybe one day he'll be so insanely wealthy he can start his own phallic-shaped space rocket company. 😏

[Joimiaroxeu]

11 hours ago, bayviewbubba said:

I know, I know, ask me!  Kyle, in the GCAC weight room, the black punching bag of doom usually employed by TGVN comes unmoored and whacks him in the face, then on the back of the head on the rebound, thereby destroying his face and hairdo.  He's in a medically induced coma for 10 days, comes out of it 6 inches taller and immeasurably handsomer, with a strangely British accent.  He remembers nothing of Summer or Claire, thinks he's related to Hugh Grant, and wants to play soccer with David Beckham out in one of the cow patty strewn pastures on the  outskirts of  Genoa City.  Then he chokes on a fresh cheese curd and dies.  Jack cries beautifully and Diane secretly smiles.

Isn't this basically how we got one of the versions of Chance?  We saw him in the hospital with his face bandaged and when they removed the wraps he was being portrayed by a different actor?

[MollyB]

16 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

So "Aristotle Dumas" is a nom de guerre.

15 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Dumas being interested in something in GC makes even less sense to me.

 

So here's my theory:  Viktor is really Aristotle Doomah and he thinks he's 'had dealings' with him because he looked in a mirror once a while back and doesn't remember now that it was him.  For some inexplicable reason Viktor/Aristotle brought Damian into the mix because of the AmyinGCalongtimeago connection.  For what purpose?  Who the f*ck knows?  Viktor doesn't need no stinking reason, yougotthat?

Edited April 16 by MollyB

[ScoobieDoobs]

On 4/13/2025 at 1:04 PM, surfgirl said:

You know what's weird? Everyone is bemoaning  AliveMartin but nobody is mourning DeadAlan. If Alan was so beloved why don't they mourn HIM? 

I was thinkin’ — has Ashley EVER mentioned how her supposedly good friend Alan died?  Nope.  Eh, she really stinks.

Guess that’s the last we’ll see of Traci?  That is, until these shitty writers can think up a way to torture her again.  Ew.

[realitytvfan1017]

18 hours ago, Denize said:

My theory is that they can only afford one camera person and one boom mic so it is easier to have everyone sitting down. Hopefully this means fewer car and plane crash storylines.

 

18 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Hey, Holden, Nate's not the only one wondering why you can't seem to figure out how to leave town. We contain multitudes!

Audra, come on. Just tell Nate the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

But Damian, you don't need to tell Lily sh!te. Lily's not entitled to demand you betray your boss, even if you do want to get with her.

Hmm, Lily should have a sit-down with Sharon and Phyllis and ask them to explain their Martin ordeal.

I don’t mind her asking Damian about this because if AD were really targeting Winters , I’d get her concern, it’s the way she goes about it. Subtlety is not her thing unfortunately. But she’s asking what we all want to know and what the show has been dragging with this AD storyline. With the way Holden has been acting, maybe he’s AD or actually knows who AD is and that’s why there has been tension between him and Damian. 

18 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Hey, Holden, Nate's not the only one wondering why you can't seem to figure out how to leave town. We contain multitudes!

Audra, come on. Just tell Nate the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

But Damian, you don't need to tell Lily sh!te. Lily's not entitled to demand you betray your boss, even if you do want to get with her.

Hmm, Lily should have a sit-down with Sharon and Phyllis and ask them to explain their Martin ordeal.

Audra is losing me here. I actually started to like her when she seemed to have real feelings for Nate and liked the way she was treating him and Amy even though Amy is annoying.  But now she’s willing to risk this all for a supposed job from Victor. Didn’t she see how Lily was treated by Victor and she was promised a job too and she’s a close family friend. Maybe she should see if Damian and Holden can get her a job at the Dumas company that Damian supposedly runs, unless it’s really Tucker who’s Dumas, well then Audra is out of luck. 

Edited April 16 by realitytvfan1017

[ScoobieDoobs]

Sheesh, Pomp, insecure & possessive much?  What’s with the sour-puss looks aimed at Holden?  Claire ain’t allowed to talk to another man?

Hey Devon, is it possible for you to be anything other than a hostile, angry little creep?  Guess not.

Oh Audra, lying to Natey about your prostitute deal with Vic?  Continuing to make terrible choices, eh, hun?

Vic trying to speak while eating was pretty disgusting.  Yech.

Edited April 17 by ScoobieDoobs

[realitytvfan1017]

19 hours ago, Denize said:

Thankfully he doesn't call her "Pumpkin" while referring to Ashley as "My Beauty" like his father.

What John Abbott called Traci pumpkin? Now I get her self esteem issues. How horrible !

On 4/13/2025 at 3:47 PM, Denize said:

And a white board facing the public entrance, for all to see their clues.  Although once they draped a bedsheet over it when they noticed someone snooping.

I remember the board they had with which detective was on shift even though it appeared there were only 3 cops on the force. 

18 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Geez was Holden being a whiny baby today or what? Bruh. Stop talking about Audra like she's The One Who Got Away. Nobody cares.

Audra doing an angst-filled soliloquy into her phone. No. Just no.

Puhleeze. Damian cannot be as big a fool as he was acting like with Lily. Oral promises are often made to be broken, Damian. You'd better wise up.

So "Aristotle Dumas" is a nom de guerre. This is my shocked face. Who didn't see that coming MONTHS ago?

What the what? I gotta take back every nice thing I've ever said about John Abbott! No wonder Traci struggles with her self-esteem; her daddy was a Grade A a-hole to her. 😡

Whether Damian really knows who Dumas is or not , the show has to drag out the Dumas  storyline by giving us nothing more than  we really know already .

[lgprimes]

The actress that plays Claire seems desperately to want out from the Claire Pomp dullness. She was working overtime to give soap faces to Holden and Audra today.

[realitytvfan1017]

1 hour ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

I was thinkin’ — has Ashley EVER mentioned how her supposedly good friend Alan died?  Nope.  Eh, she really stinks.

Guess that’s the last we’ll see of Traci?  That is, until these shitty writers can think up a way to torture her again.  Ew.

Yes I’d expect Ashley to be a bit more upset her good friend died and was killed by his crazy brother. I know Traci deserves better!!

[realitytvfan1017]

I had a theory that Holden is Tucker’s son. 

[MollyB]

52 minutes ago, realitytvfan1017 said:

I had a theory that Holden is Tucker’s son. 

Mind blown when Devon finds out they are brothers.

[ScoobieDoobs]

4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I'm gonna give Billy a little bit of grace on not having office space for Abbott Communications yet. He was expecting to use the Chancellor offices Jill pulled out from under him and sold to Victor, and he hasn't fully covered from his mommy's betrayal.

In the meantime, Billy's working out of his house like many "new" entrepreneurs do. For example, Bezos started Amazon in the garage of a house he owned. If Billy's lucky, maybe one day he'll be so insanely wealthy he can start his own phallic-shaped space rocket company. 😏

The diff here is Billy got a check from Jackie — and we prob can assume it was a nice, big fat check, right?  For eleventy billion trillion $’s?  Anyhoo, it was certainly enough for Billy to get started with some office space & hiring support staff.  But as expected, the big-talking lazy loser has done zip — other than saying the name over & over & over.

And now we see Vic knows everything about Doo-mah’s offer to loser Billy?  Hmmm, is Vic really Doo-mah?  And from Mikey’s comment to Vic, seems as obvious to GC’ers, as it is to us, Abbott Communications is still a bunch of nothing.

13 minutes ago, MollyB said:

Mind blown when Devon finds out they are brothers.

Yup, and anything that pisses off that little creep is OK by me!  We gotta assume they’re gonna make Holden related to someone cuz he’s still lurking around for a reason . . .

Edited April 16 by ScoobieDoobs