Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Edited Tuesday at 03:41 PM by Joimiaroxeu

[Joimiaroxeu]

13 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Not really.  True, Lily is sorta indifferent to her now, even a bit friendly, but not Devon.  He still rolls his eyes when near her & makes it obvious he can’t stand her.  Diane made a snide comment recently to Jackie, when discussing Shmoopy & Claire — “At least he Isn’t with Audra.”  And Jackie agreed.

And Summer, The Red Beast, Abby, certainly Vic & Nikki, & even Ash have made it well known they can’t stand her.  So she’s pretty well hated by most GC’ers — or at least looked upon with suspicion & mistrust.  And she’s earned that mistrust by her past behavior.  So this sweetie-pie act she’s pulling now, particularly the sugary way she is with Amy?  Not buying it, Audra!

I don't disagree that Audra is widely disliked. I just don't see everyone making faces when they see her. That's the kind of thing children like Katie or Connor do, or immature adults who can't control their reactions. Plus, I don't think TPTB would let that happen because Audra is the only Latinx character on the show right now and having everyone behaving like that toward her would risk looking racist. CBS and their two daytime soaps already have some bad history on that front.

Edited Tuesday at 03:40 PM by Joimiaroxeu

[MollyB]

13 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Once again I ask.  If Victor’s security was following Ian, how come Victor doesn’t know where he is?  

This is a rhetorical question, yes?😉 As far as I can tell, Viktor's security 'team' is one guy. 

 

13 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

The question is what poison did the vile contain when Auntie Jordan was killed by an overdose of sleeping pills?  Also, the autopsy blood analysis and the vile of poison won’t match.

There won't be an autopsy because Viktor has already given the cause of death and his decree is enough.  End of story.  I'd like to know, however, who keeps a handy vial of poison around the tack house for just such an occasion.  Unless the 'sleeping pills' were in liquid form the coroner might just have a problem with how she managed to take enough pills to kill her that fast when a group of people were watching.  Wasn't like she was holding a gun on them while she did it.  Are they going to claim she was alone, making herself a cup of tea to dissolve the pills and they just stumbled upon her in the Tack house after she drank it?

[ScoobieDoobs]

So there’s Vic, acting like he’s a mobster, taking the law into his own hands cuz he feels justified to have his goon rough up Ian. Icky stuff to watch!

I thought Mikey was supposed to be his advisor, to act according to the law.  Guess not anymore, eh?

So what has become of Tessa & Aria?

Go to the hospital & get yourself checked out, Sharon!

Bed scene with Billy & Sally!  Ew, a black bra & nostrils blur to me . . .

[Chatty Cake]

Old ass Ian was able to wrangle the only gun in the group into his own hands? Come on!

[One Tough Cookie]

On 1/26/2025 at 1:01 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

For example, who would've expected hypnosis to clear Sharon of a murder charge

But hasn't hypnosis been ruled out in trials?  I {am a true crime reader} and read time and time again that it has been ruled as an inexact  since; just has a lie detector?

 

20 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

ictor you told Chance that Auntie Jordan had a vile of poison that he gave to the police. The question is what poison did the vile contain when Auntie Jordan was killed by an overdose of sleeping pills?  Also, the autopsy blood analysis and the vile of poison won’t match.  

And did Chansome think about taking the bottle as evidence?

[boes]

12 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

And did Chansome think about taking the bottle as evidence?

Victor told him the police took the vial with them.  That lie should last until he gets to the station, if he's lucky.

[Js Nana]

6 minutes ago, boes said:

Victor told him the police took the vial with them.

Which, given the way the character is written, should be good enough for Chance, who won't feel the need to check on that back at the station.

[Js Nana]

Ian Ward is coerced into accompanying Michael Baldwin to the lair of Victor I, Emperor of the Universe, including Uranus and all its moons, through a threat of violence, i.e. one of Trump's crack security team displaying a gun; once again, the Emperor of the Universe, including Uranus and all its moons, displays that he considers himself to be a law unto himself by having his minions kidnap someone who is brought before his throne to Suffer the Wrath of Victor.

[Js Nana]

41 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

And did Chansome think about taking the bottle as evidence?

Since Chance was told that Jordan killed herself by swallowing the contents of a vial that she'd brought with her, he wouldn't even know about any bottle of sleeping pills unless the tox screen found excessive amounts of that medication in Jordan's blood.

[Js Nana]

4 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

I thought Mikey was supposed to be his advisor, to act according to the law.

Like the character of Tom Hagen in The Godfather, Mikey is The Victor's consigliere - but in the real world, if the proverbial you-know-what ever hit the proverbial fan, any lawyer pulling the crap Mikey has for Victor would be disbarred as well as serving a stiff sentence in a federal prison.

[Joimiaroxeu]

57 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

But hasn't hypnosis been ruled out in trials?  I {am a true crime reader} and read time and time again that it has been ruled as an inexact  since; just has a lie detector?

When it first came up that what Sharon said under hypnosis was accepted as fact, I hit the googles. Apparently the regard of hypnosis under legal circumstances varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. So training at the Law & Order night school isn't even helpful on this one because NYC <> GC.

[Js Nana]

9 hours ago, MollyB said:

Viktor's security 'team' is one guy.

Who can't keep his gun from being stolen.

9 hours ago, MollyB said:

who keeps a handy vial of poison around the tack house for just such an occasion.

Victor's story is that Jordan brought the vial of poison with her.

[Waldo13]

Could Sally do any worse than Adam or Nick?  The answer is yes, Billy👃.  As much as  Sally and Billy👃deny it, they have a rebound relationship.  I’m firmly convinced that Billy👃 loves nobody but himself.  Billy👃has what is known as self-love deficit disorder.  

Another pho par by Victor’s security. You would think that that security would have their gun more secure, in the holster, to keep someone from grabbing it.  Now I’m wondering if Ian has nothing to loose, he would confess killing Heather and abducting Tessa and Aria and then try to shoot but finds there is no bullets in the gun or there is a personalized safety on the gun a la James Bond.  

I enjoyed evil Auntie Jordan’s performance and unbalanced diatribes.  As for Ian, not so much 🤢🤮. Especially distasteful, for me, is an evil *** that quotes the Bible to try to make you believe that he is a man of god instead of a devilish cult leader. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

I assumed Claire crushed the pills & put them in the tea.  Sleeping pills don’t have any taste, so it wouldn’t be noticeable, BUT would it be as potent in a crushed form, dissolved in tea?  Maybe not.

I think the point of Sharon’s hypnosis was to set everyone in the right direction — that Heather’s killer was someone other than Sharon, cuz of unblocking her memories of that night.  Whether it’s admissible in court is probably irrelevant.  But The Red Beast’s non-stop, screeching accusations needed to be counteracted.

And speaking of Sharon’s hypnosis, did Show completely forget about Traci & Alan?  I still think the writers haven’t decided whether to make him Dead Martin or leave him as Alan.  Idk, my hunch is they hate Traci & will choose the storyline which makes her the most teary & miserable.  Feh.

Edited Yest. at 01:59 AM by ScoobieDoobs

[Joimiaroxeu]

This effing guy, manspreading right in the opening scene. Stop it, Billy!!! (I see you, JT and JG. Feel free to bite me.)

Why did the CC spell lovey as "lovie"? Whatever, I call those things like Mariah was holding a stuffie or plushie.

Michael the big bad consigliere, armed with a Bible verse. Okay.

Ian is definitely good at dissembling. He didn't miss a beat when Michael told him Jordan was dead.

I bet Sharon and Mariah will be mad when they find out Nick was lying to them about not knowing where Ian was. But he probably kept Mariah from going over to the ranch house and killing Ian herself.

Hey, Billy, if you hurry you could probably buy TikTok. 😈

Yelling at Ian is pointless, Nick. But you go ahead and do your angry tough guy routine and see how far that gets you.

Huh, now I'm thinking the set for Billy's house is Brad Carleton's old place Abby inherited. The place I wish Abby and Devon had moved to instead of squatting at the Chancellor Estate.

Oh of course Ian snatched the security guy's weapon. Right before my eyes rolled so hard they fell out of my head.

[Joimiaroxeu]

23 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

I think the point of Sharon’s hypnosis was to set everyone in the right direction — that Heather’s killer was someone other than Sharon, cuz of unblocking her memories of that night.  Whether it’s admissible in court is probably irrelevant.  But The Red Beast’s non-stop, screeching accusations needed to be counteracted.

The show didn't treat Sharon's hypnosis as irrelevant though. Michael and Nick immediately decided the results meant Sharon was innocent of Heather's murder. And Phyllis was loudly skeptical until the show decided she would accept it too because she was tired of being in anger mode. I think what will finally end all the debate is when everyone finds out Ian and/or Jordan killed Heather.

[surfgirl]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

This effing guy, manspreading right in the opening scene. Stop it, Billy!!! (I see you, JT and JG. Feel free to bite me.)

Hahaha! I was going to say the opening scene too. Billyboy Nostradominico Moltinostros is sitting there in painted on skin tight jeans, manspreading the bejeezus out of that brand new couch, with a large champagne flute conveniently placed center crotch and extremely - how shall I say this? - 'upright'. Now I don't know about all you cats and kittens, but I do NOT need to see Billyboy's manspreadin' crotch splayed out there for all and sundry to see, and I surely do NOT need to see any phallic represention on him either. Gross doesn't even begin to cover what I'm feeling right now.

Also, I'd like to know exactly who thinks Vic looks good in that black motorcycle jacket. Just sayin'.

ETA: Is it asking too much that when Ian pulls that trigger, a little flag that says KABOOM pops out? Is that asking too much? I think not.

Edited Yest. at 03:58 AM by surfgirl

[ScoobieDoobs]

17 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

The show didn't treat Sharon's hypnosis as irrelevant though. Michael and Nick immediately decided the results meant Sharon was innocent of Heather's murder. And Phyllis was loudly skeptical until the show decided she would accept it too because she was tired of being in anger mode. I think what will finally end all the debate is when everyone finds out Ian and/or Jordan killed Heather.

Well, I thought the hypnosis bit was merely a plot device, that those sketchy & sloppy writers shoved in to keep this dumb storyline going forward, & maybe head off to its conclusion.  Hasn’t it mostly been forgotten about by now in GC?

And when it comes to what’s legal?  Ha!  Legal, shmegal — GC is Vic’s world to run & he calls the shots as to what HE wants, which is all that matters.  Mikey might as have been barking & wagging his tail.  Hmmm, this sounds familiar.

Ian is some piece of work.  Deny everything & admit to nothing, eh, Ian?  He refused to admit knowing Jordie — in a very snotty tone — even though the police already have evidence of her being in his room.  Trolling much?  And mixing the trolling with preacher-speak?  Ew.

[boes]

4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

This effing guy, manspreading right in the opening scene. Stop it, Billy!!!

I'm so over it.  In this case, it's impossible to believe there's any truth in advertising.

It's as if JT thinks this is his very own Jack in the Box.  And I mean every word of that.  Every word.

[ByaNose]

4 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Hahaha! I was going to say the opening scene too. Billyboy Nostradominico Moltinostros is sitting there in painted on skin tight jeans, manspreading the bejeezus out of that brand new couch, with a large champagne flute conveniently placed center crotch and extremely - how shall I say this? - 'upright'. Now I don't know about all you cats and kittens, but I do NOT need to see Billyboy's manspreadin' crotch splayed out there for all and sundry to see, and I surely do NOT need to see any phallic represention on him either. Gross doesn't even begin to cover what I'm feeling right now.

Also, I'd like to know exactly who thinks Vic looks good in that black motorcycle jacket. Just sayin'.

ETA: Is it asking too much that when Ian pulls that trigger, a little flag that says KABOOM pops out? Is that asking too much? I think not.

You left out that black motorcycle jacket with his gut hanging out. Granted he looks great at 83 years old but…….he’s still 83 years old. Just sayin… Maybe, in the 90’s he could pull it off. He should be in his uniform of a suit and tie like Jack Abbott. I thinks it’s the law or something. 

[surfgirl]

16 minutes ago, boes said:

It's as if JT thinks this is his very own Jack in the Box.  And I mean every word of that.  Every word.

JT indeed! It's his very own:

 

12 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

You left out that black motorcycle jacket with his gut hanging out.

That's exactly what I meant!

[Joimiaroxeu]

13 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Hahaha! I was going to say the opening scene too. Billyboy Nostradominico Moltinostros is sitting there in painted on skin tight jeans, manspreading the bejeezus out of that brand new couch, with a large champagne flute conveniently placed center crotch and extremely - how shall I say this? - 'upright'. Now I don't know about all you cats and kittens, but I do NOT need to see Billyboy's manspreadin' crotch splayed out there for all and sundry to see, and I surely do NOT need to see any phallic represention on him either. Gross doesn't even begin to cover what I'm feeling right now.

All this^^^.

I might could've tolerated that crap if it seemed like Billy was doing it without thinking. However, the way the scene was staged it was clear the show wanted to highlight the manspreading so Billy was doing it deliberately. Why? Who is supposed to be impressed by a direct shot of Billy's crotch? Whatever, it reads to me as insecurity, not as evidence of masculinity.

[lgprimes]

WTH?? I’m rage watching today’s episode. We have hit new lows of stupidity. Ian just lets Victory hold his phone where he could be easily dialing 911. Michael refuses an offer to leave the house- where he could easily walk it the door and call 911. For gods sake this was the most unbelievable hostage situation ever on screen. 
I’M INSULTED.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

And dummy Michael when offered the chance to be set free by Ian says no when he could have alerted the cops?  Truly stupid!

[Tippi]

Is today, January 29, 2025, on CBS at 12:30-1:30 Eastern time, the worst episode of any television show ever?

[ScoobieDoobs]

So today, Ian hosts a toga party at the Newman mausoleum?  Hardly.  Pretty grim, tense stuff, but Ian did get in a few dead-on digs to this bunch.

But we get to see the real Ian come out —  w/o the preacher-speak.  Showcase for Ray cuz he specializes in this violent stuff.

No word on Tessa & Aria.

I kinda wanted to see Jordie burst in & those 2 go off in a Bonnie & Clyde ending, but no, that didn’t happen.  Still think she’ll be back .  . .

[lgprimes]

I don’t think the writers wanted me to be yelling “Shoot him Ian! What are you waiting for?! Come on shoot him!”, but I was. I’m so over that old coot. Unfortunately Ian is a crummy shot.

 And Nick, that brain trust, is having a discussion about the joy of watching Ian die slowly, and not thinking he should be asking for Tessa’s whereabouts rather urgently?

[Bunnyto4]

I was anticipating Abby bounding in like Mighty Mouse "here I come to save the day!" 

[Chatty Cake]

I basically fast forward watched this rather than listen to the ridiculous dialogue. I knew right away that Victor would save the day. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

Poor Abby continues to be the forgotten child.  Or do they just hate MO?  And where’s Summer & her pouts?  Anyone miss her?  Anyone?

So with all Vic’s dough, his “security team” was one guy, who easily got knocked over by a little old dude?  OK then.  That Vic, he soooo brave, eh?  Meh.

Now, today woulda been a good way to eliminate cast members we don’t like!  Hard to choose, there are so many . . .

[Joimiaroxeu]

Sigh, Ian, you always have a choice. You could choose to go away and live your life instead of ruining it by shooting a Newman.

IAN SAID HE FELL IN LOVE WITH JORDAN! WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FCUK? Just when I thought this storyline couldn't be any more insane...

Halfway though this episode, I was ready for guys in black tactical gear to parachute onto the ranch house roof and drop smoke bombs down the chimneys.

One might expect the Newmans to have a safe word so they'd know something was up if Victor summoned them. No way should any of them  have walked into a hostage situation in the living room unawares.

How was RW not utterly embarrassed to be doing this hammy nonsense? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[Waldo13]

Today’s episode 🤢🤮 is an exercise in redundancy.  We all know how bad the Newman’s are from a myriad of GC citizens but today the monkeys with a keyboard just had to let Ian rehash the countless way the Newmans suck.  Wash rinse repeat!  What a waist of 40 minutes. 

Unless there was a silver bullets in the gun, Victor won’t die.  

Claire/Eve confronted Ian that Auntie Jordan could not love him but she didn’t say that Auntie Jordan gave up Ian in that he killed Heather.  Why not? 

 

Two things:  Victor was allowed to call Abby but actually did he really call his security or should have.  There were two gunshots but wouldn’t you think that security  hear them?  

 

[Sake614]

5 hours ago, Tippi said:

Is today, January 29, 2025, on CBS at 12:30-1:30 Eastern time, the worst episode of any television show ever?

Probably. It was certainly the cheapest to produce 🤣

[One Tough Cookie]

5 hours ago, lgprimes said:

an just lets Victory hold his phone where he could be easily dialing 911

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

 

5 hours ago, Tippi said:

Is today, January 29, 2025, on CBS at 12:30-1:30 Eastern time, the worst episode of any television show ever?

absolutely

 

5 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Still think she’ll be back .  . .

me too.

 

3 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I knew right away that Victor would save the day. 

it's in his contract.

OK--HOW LONG are the producers going to torture us with Nikki's St. Pepper blouse and bangs she could see from?

[MsMalin]

IN A SUDDEN ADRENALIN RUSH, 95 YEAR OLD VICTOR NEWMAN TAKES DOWN EVIL IAN WARD 

And just how stupid was Michael to not leave. He could've gotten security or the cops! But he'd rather die for surrogate daddy Victor.

[One Tough Cookie]

1 hour ago, MsMalin said:

IN A SUDDEN ADRENALIN RUSH, 95 YEAR OLD VICTOR NEWMAN TAKES DOWN EVIL IAN WARD 

And just how stupid was Michael to not leave. He could've gotten security or the cops! But he'd rather die for surrogate daddy Victor.

/dead/

[NinjaPenguins]

I see you, show. You think putting truth bombs in the mouth of a psychopath like Ian Ward somehow defuses them. WRONG! Few if any lies were detected about the douche cartel that is the Newman family. Just look at those dumb motherfuckers declining all the easy outs Ian gave them. Michael, I loved you so very much when you were free from Phyllis’ talons and living your best life. Now? I don’t know who you are.

Victor could have pretended to call Adam and actually phoned Chance, who would have known something was off. But then the old glory hound wouldn’t have enjoyed basking in another dismal failure of the Newman justice system. Hard to believe kidnapping an old villain and taunting him with threats of murder could backfire so hard.

Nick was hilariously stupid. My lord, that was some trash acting.

Love in the afternoon has never been more meaningful or soared to greater heights than treating the audience to two superannuated jagoffs suffering agonizing gunshot wounds to the abdomen. And Mariah gets absolutely no role in taking Ian down, even though his return was supposedly all for her. Eat a bag of hell, JG.

[ScoobieDoobs]

So Ian admits his love for Jordie in the midst of all the stupidity?  All I could think was — Thanks again, Show, for sparing us bed scenes of Jordie & Ian!  Jordie in a black bra & a glimpse of more of Ian’s wrinkles would’ve made me lose lunch AND breakfast!

Was expecting Mikey to start bawling & say — I wuv you, Viktor!  WTF?

Actually, neither Claire or Ian got the story right on what happened btw Jordie & Ian.  Ian said they were still a couple, & Claire said Jordie told her Ian abandoned her.  Neither is correct.  We saw that she split & ended their “partnership” cuz she thought he was ignoring her ultimate goals.

Edited 58 minutes ago by ScoobieDoobs