Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[NinjaPenguins]

Kyle, you stupid, grandpa sweater wearing fuck boi. Wish your mom & dad could see their big boy businessman signing a contract without the benefit of legal advice. There’s a local attorney with an open schedule and expertise in the malevolent dealings of Victor Newman, but you do you, numbnuts. The joke’s on Victor, because the immortal soul Kyle has forfeited has less substance than Pomp’s chin.

Did the writers just discover pneumonia? I feel like they did. Everyone is treating the idea with this kind of horrified wonderment that’s just weird, man. Pneumonia can be dangerous (especially when you won’t get treated, Cole), but it’s not some exotic, incurable plague. Personally, I think Cole is having difficulty with turning into a vampire, so Victoria should take a long, hard look in the mirror at her absent reflection and contemplate her culpability. Now, not all Newmans inherit the vampire gene, but many are surprised to learn that Nicholas actually did. He’s a petrovampire who naturally draws oils from his surroundings and stores them in his hair. #Y&RLore

Speaking of vile creatures, good fancy fruitcakes is Phyllis unlikeable or what? Getting in Sally’s personal space, making threats and calling her a whore should have lead to a rousing game of “Find Your Teeth” but I guess Sally realized that Phyllis would have no trouble spotting her bluetooths on the Athletic Club floor. Amanda must be a jonesing for a humiliating pink slip to wrangle an invite for the manic foghorn.

Mariah killed that man in the flashback just to watch him die, didn’t she? Or he reminded her of Ian Ward, she snapped and now he’s resting comfortably at the bottom of a lake. Meanwhile Daniel is developing the hots for Tessa.

So… Victor is now pimping both Audra and Claire out? He’s certainly put a monetary value on their romantic activities. He just needs a gaudy cane and coat to swan about town in. I’d like to say this is the absolute rock bottom show can reach when it comes to misogyny, but I can hear the distant roar of Josh Griffith firing up the excavator.

DOO-mah or DOONOT-mah, that is the question.

[One Tough Cookie]

3 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

we will catch a glimpse of his feet in the last 10 seconds.

MAKE IT TUCKER MAKE IT TUCKER MAKE IT TUCKER

[One Tough Cookie]

4 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Sally’s personal space, making threats and calling her a whore should have lead to a rousing game of “Find Your Teeth” but I

Couldn't stop laughing

 

4 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

I guess Sally realized that Phyllis would have no trouble spotting her bluetooths on the Athletic Club floor. Amanda must be a jonesing for a humiliating pink slip to wrangle an invite for the manic foghorn

Stop. Just stop. Contact the writers and offer your services!

Edited Saturday at 05:47 PM by One Tough Cookie

[Audpaud]

Ewwwww Mariah! Really? 

[KLovestoShop]

This Mariah storyline is way beyond its past due date and needs to stop now. So she slept with a dude that looks like Ian, big freaking deal. Get over yourself Mariah because this is all gone beyond stupid.

 

Phyllis, don’t you get it? The words came out of your own mouth, no one wants you. No one wants to hire you. So what makes you think that when you go to Nice France that Dumas it’s going to pick you over all of the huge Titans of industry. Phyllis hasn’t accomplished one thing in decades, and this guy‘s gonna want her? Yeah, maybe to have a roll in the hay with but only an idiot would trust her with $10 of his own pocket money.  

Edited Monday at 05:39 PM by KLovestoShop

[SweePea59]

I had to laugh at Nicholas talking about Dumbass getting members of all of the powerful families of GC together in one place. Oh my, what will happen when they all get together? Wasn't he just at his mommy's party? It's basically the same guest list. Plus the Phterodactyl.

[Chatty Cake]

Nick sounded like a fool bragging to Phyllis about the expensive rare car that his gross old daddy bought for his idiot mommy. 

[Js Nana]

2 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

maybe to have a roll in the hay with

A post-menopausal roll, which means that one of them will have to have brought the lubricant - water based if he uses a condom, silicone based if he doesn't.

2 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

Plus the Phterodactyl

The screeching red pterodactyl who will swoop in, fly around the room, break all the breakables, drop onto Dumbass' lap and plant a big, wet, sloppy kiss on his mouth. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Aw geez, Daniel mentioned Danny. Here we go again with the aging wannabe rock star. 😒

What are the odds Mariah will tell Tessa what her big regretful mystery is by the end of this episode? I'm guessing somewhere between slim and none.

Phyllis' was using her hair as a prop today. She was touching it and moving it around like she was trying to flirt with her own son. Ehhh.

"How do you plan on leveraging something that doesn't exist?" Daniel out here asking the real questions. Go for the jugular, my guy.

On 6/7/2025 at 8:11 AM, One Tough Cookie said:

MAKE IT TUCKER MAKE IT TUCKER MAKE IT TUCKER

Isn't it odd how none of the invitees have wondered if it might be Tucker? He is someone who lives in France and has a connection to the three families invited to the soirée. <shrugs >

[Joimiaroxeu]

Ian Ward!?!?! Gosh, Mariah, nobody wants to go there again, least of all, you. Enough about bad old history, what happened on your business trip with that guy in the bar?

So Sharon isn't going to the big party in Nice because she's worried about Mariah. Now Nick is short a plus one. Batter up, Phyllis!

Phyllis thought being called a shark by Daniel was an insult. Good thing the Shark Tank TV show is on ABC instead of CBS, lol. 

Sure, Phyllis, Aristotle Dumas will be begging you all right. Begging you to get off his junk. And then off his property. 

5 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

Phyllis hasn’t accomplished one thing in decades, and this guy‘s gonna want her? Yeah, maybe to have a roll in the hay with but only an idiot would trust her with $10 of his own pocket money.  

Bet this is where Nick will step in to offer himself as a reference. Didn't he lend Phyllis tens of millions of dollars to buy the hotel she used to run? I'm sure Dumas will be hella impressed. 😉

Edited Monday at 11:15 PM by Joimiaroxeu

[Js Nana]

20 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

What are the odds Mariah will tell Tessa what her big regretful mystery is by the end of this episode? I'm guessing somewhere between slim and none.

Good guess - she's going to run around with an expression that I can only describe as "Madonna with thrombosed hemorrhoid" as painted by Raffaello Sanzio da Urbino ("Raphael").

[One Tough Cookie]

Just now, Joimiaroxeu said:

So Sharon isn't going to the big party in Nice because she's worried about Mariah. Now Nick is short a plus one. Batter up, Phylli

She'll go because she has the hots for Nick and she'll convince herself that Mariah will be OK.

Anyone notice that Tessa has Sally's reptile jumpsuit under her overalls?

I don't know about anyone else, but I really don't care about Maria's big, bad secret.

Fhtillis is so fucking obnoxious I wish she's either be written off or replaced with another actress.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Yuck, it's looking more and more like Mariah got extra friendly with the man who sidled up to her while she was sloshed.

Sharon made sure to let Phyllis know she went to Nikki's birthday bash as Nick's date guest. And Nick just stood there between them with his thumb up his hiney.

Gee, Mariah, if you want Tessa to stop pressuring you about your secret,  perhaps you could stop bringing it up.

Dang, that face Sharon made when she heard Phyllis had been invited to the Dumas party! It was textbook "bish whet?" Brava, SC.

4 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Nick sounded like a fool bragging to Phyllis about the expensive rare car that his gross old daddy bought for his idiot mommy. 

And IMO Phyllis looked like an even bigger fool acting like she knew exactly what he was talking about when he rattled off the full name of it. 

[One Tough Cookie]

24 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

ang, that face Sharon made when she heard Phyllis had been invited to the Dumas party! It was textbook "bish whet?" Brava, SC

Her face actually MOVED?

[Waldo13]

Can Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍 be any more dramatic when she say Aristotle DuuuuMahhhh. 

Question:  When did Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍 have time to put on makeup?  Yesterday she looked sick and today she looks less sick 😜.  I hate to be crass but Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍 is definitely not a spokesmodel for Maidenform 😜. 

Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍 has a high regard for herself but she’s going to make Mr Dumas love her 😂😂😂😂.  

This Mariah crap is getting old. What’s more horrible than a one night stand?  A one night stand with an old man that could remind Mariah of Ian?  Or an old man that died during that one night stand?  

Mariah and Tessa should only be on days when Sharon, Nick🦍, and Manic Pathetic Phillis🐍 are on because they give a master class in acting while those 3 look like they are in a kindergarten play. 

[surfgirl]

5 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

This Mariah crap is getting old. What’s more horrible than a one night stand?  A one night stand with an old man that could remind Mariah of Ian?  Or an old man that died during that one night stand?  

This.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Since Show likes to go dark, I’m getting the icky feeling something really awful happened to Mariah — like the creepy old dude raped her, after she invited him to her room.  Please don’t go there, Show.  Bell is going dark enough now with B&B.

[Js Nana]

9 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

 Bell is going dark enough now with B&B.

I've given up on B&B entirely - completely gone of it.

[Js Nana]

26 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

 A one night stand with an old man

There's something familiar about the actor playing the old man, but I can't quite put my finger on it - could he bear a passing resemblance to some soap actor from before the Bi-centennial - I was alive for that, but at my age, living another 50 years for the Tri-centennial would get my name in the papers.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Looks a bit like Tony Geary to me.  He always creeped me out.

Sheesh, was The Red/Orange Beast especially maddening today?  Can she go to France and never come back, Show?  Please? 🙏

[Js Nana]

1 minute ago, Js Nana said:

There's something familiar about the actor playing the old man, but I can't quite put my finger on it

OK, google AI says the actor playing the old man is Michael Swan and he played a character named Duncan McKechnie on As the World Turns from 1986-2002, which I'm sure is where I remember him from.

[Js Nana]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Nick just stood there between them with his thumb up his hiney.

I hope he didn't put it in his mouth when he took it out, because he forgets sometimes.

[Snaporaz]

That's Michael Swan???  WTF happened to him?  Yes, he was Duncan to Tamara Tunie's Jessica, and he also played the original Sally Spectra's ex (Macy's dad) on B&B. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

Oh yeah, now I know who he is — he had a moustache & was promoted as a shirtless hunk type in the ‘80’s.  I’ve seen pics of him lately.  He actually looks pretty good for 76 & he’s still in great shape.  But sheesh, that flashback lighting is really unkind!  And it’s particularly unkind to seniors!  And we know Show (& GC) is now made up mostly of the AARP set . . .

[One Tough Cookie]

17 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Looks a bit like Tony Geary to me.  He always creeped me out.

Sheesh, was The Red/Orange Beast especially maddening today?  Can she go to France and never come back, Show?  Please? 🙏

Geary A creeped me out also.  I could never understand the Luke and Laura thing. I never understood the Luke and Laura thing

 

17 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Sheesh, was The Red/Orange Beast especially maddening today?  Can she go to France and never come back

And if she has to come back can she be portrayed by another actress? PLEASE? Yeah, and I want a pony

 

2 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

And we know Show (& GC) is now made up mostly of the AARP set . . .

Ouch

I Rember when Daniel showed up and I had no idea who he was and Bluetooth launched right into him and she rubbed  boobs against him! Finding out he was her son was rather uncomfortable.

Edited Tuesday at 05:57 PM by One Tough Cookie

[pvandal]

Holden mansplaning Victor's modus operandi to Audra was laughable. Yeah, she's dealt with him before new guy.

[Js Nana]

17 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

That's Michael Swan???  WTF happened to him?

He was born 77 years ago, that's what happened to him.

4 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

But sheesh, that flashback lighting is really unkind!

I think they've also added a little make-up to make him look a little less like someone who looks good for his age.

[KLovestoShop]

I get it !!!!!!!!!   Y&R is going to do a Rosemary’s Baby remake for TV with Mariah being Rosemary and the Ian lookalike as the father. When the kid is born, it turns out to be Phyllis with her praying mantis arms and a face like a stink bug.  She’ll go around gobbling up the denizens of GC until she finds someone to hire her.  

[Js Nana]

2 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I Rember when Daniel showed up and I had no idea who he was and Bluetooth launched right into him and she rubbed  boobs against him!

Is that really any different from how she behaves now with the tantalizing boob exposure - but no nipples - her everyday GC outfits offer?

[Foghornleghorn]

On 6/9/2025 at 1:39 PM, KLovestoShop said:

This Mariah storyline is way beyond its past due date and needs to stop now. So she slept with a dude that looks like Ian, big freaking deal. Get over yourself Mariah because this is all gone beyond stupid.

 

Phyllis, don’t you get it? The words came out of your own mouth, no one wants you. No one wants to hire you. So what makes you think that when you go to Nice France that Dumas it’s going to pick you over all of the huge Titans of industry. Phyllis hasn’t accomplished one thing in decades, and this guy‘s gonna want her? Yeah, maybe to have a roll in the hay with but only an idiot would trust her with $10 of his own pocket money.  

I think it is Ian and he had plastic surgery.  His eyes did pop open when he was supposed to be dead so we knew he would come back.

[ScoobieDoobs]

OMG, shockers, Lils, the ice cube, actually . . . gasp, touched the back of Damian’s hand!!  Eek!  Welp, Damian was trying his best to get Lils hot by wearing a tighty-tight shirt & showing off the ugly tats all over his arms.  Maybe it finally worked to melt Lils?  Really?  Why?

Boring ep.  Usual crap of Jackie overdoing it with the flattery bullshit to Diane, and more dumb shit btw Pomp & Audra, Audra & Vic, Audra & Holden, and Holden is mad at Damian.  Oh, and Vic is threatening to cut off Audra cuz she ain’t gettin’ anywhere w/Pomp cuz he still seems mostly indifferent to her.  Zzzzz, whatevs.

Was so bored, I noticed a few things I wouldn’t have otherwise.  Like how Damian said Holden was “pissed” at him.  Didn’t know that could be said on network daytime TV.  And a closeup of Diane’s redo couch shows it’s even fuglier than I thought — it’s striped!  Striped?  Ew!  Oh Diane, your redo stunk & I still think Ash shoulda looked around, when she came back, & made a just-smelled-poop face at it . . .

Edited Tuesday at 10:19 PM by ScoobieDoobs

[Joimiaroxeu]

Hi, Holden. 🥰 Don't you have a job now? You shouldn't have time to be lurking around Audra, again. Whatever, Holden was on Audra like butter on toast. Too bad the bread was stale, lol.

According to Kyle, Claire can't go to the Aristotle Dumas bash because Cole is finally getting critical medical treatment. In Chicago. Shucks. Audra's path to Victor-mandated shenanigans just got cleared though.

Schmoozer Damian gave Lily a book about the history of jazz. Ehh. IMO the best way to learn about jazz is listen to it, and watch one of the excellent documentaries about its development. PBS has several good ones. 

Is it remotely possible Victor arranged for Cole to get pneumonia in order to distract Claire? Seems like that's what Diane and Jack were lowkey suggesting to Kyle. 🤔

WTF did Audra do to Holden when they lived in L.A.? Her alluding to it shut him up with a quickness today. Holden couldn't get away from Audra fast enough, tee hee.

Punch him, Holden! Damian disposed of you quicker than yesterday's coffee grounds. Or not. I'm thinking their fight in the middle of the coffeehouse might've been staged for Lily's benefit.

[Joimiaroxeu]

2 hours ago, KLovestoShop said:

I get it !!!!!!!!!   Y&R is going to do a Rosemary’s Baby remake for TV with Mariah being Rosemary and the Ian lookalike as the father. When the kid is born, it turns out to be Phyllis with her praying mantis arms and a face like a stink bug.  She’ll go around gobbling up the denizens of GC until she finds someone to hire her.  

@KLovestoShop, I'll have what you're having. 😵‍💫

3 hours ago, pvandal said:

Holden mansplaning Victor's modus operandi to Audra was laughable. Yeah, she's dealt with him before new guy.

Well they gotta give Holden something to do since apparently he can't leave GC. He must be bored out of his mind.

22 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Sheesh, was The Red/Orange Beast especially maddening today?  Can she go to France and never come back, Show?  Please? 🙏

Pretty sure France doesn't want her either. Maybe Neptune will take her.

[Js Nana]

11 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Maybe Neptune will take her.

People are standing on street corners all around GC shaking collection cans asking for donations to the "Send Phyllis to Neptune" campaign.

[One Tough Cookie]

Well, on a positive note I really likes Lilly's dress.  Audra, not so much.

[Waldo13]

I had to laugh. Damian found the book is a used bookstore and Lily misplaced the book that Neil once owned. Could that have been Neil’s book in the first place?  Totally random 😜. 

Audra it’s not ease dropping when you talk loud enough for everyone to hear in a private meeting.  Audra, got her funding just a few days ago and she already has a product sample?  Curious 😜. 

Diane actually thinks that Victor is playing with Cole’s health to keep Claire/Eve away from Kyle. Power has gone to her head also.  

 

 

There is a new drinking game where you take a shot every time Aristotle Dumas is mentioned. We would be drunk before the first commercial. 

 

 

[lgprimes]

11 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I'm thinking their fight in the middle of the coffeehouse might've been staged for Lily's benefit.

100% agree. It was OTT in a way that Holden is not. And if it works Holden will get access to a different division of Winters.

[Kemper]

59 minutes ago, lgprimes said:

100% agree. It was OTT in a way that Holden is not. And if it works Holden will get access to a different division of Winters.

I agree. But my main thought? Do any of us care about any of this. At all. The only way this whole thing would interest me is if Adam is Dumas.

I want this exhausting storyline to have a genuine shock at the reveal. Not some Pretty Boy who none of us knows...especially a recast Cane (if that is who it is). A recast of a long-gone cast member would be interesting. But not a recast name-who-must-not-be-mentioned and we were all thrilled to see go.

[NinjaPenguins]

The past two episodes have been rather… grim. Like, have the writers considered  making new, interesting things happen on screen? It’s just an idea. I mean, I’m really excited to hear how Aristotle DOO-mah is reclusive, mysterious and powerful for the zillionth time. And I can’t get enough scenes where Lily and Damien dine and discuss whatever. Sure, we should be grateful that the show still plays all of its greatest hits like Victor being a vile misogynist, Phyllis spinning out when her narcissistic delusions aren’t validated and, of course, the classic cut Dumb Corporate Intrigue (Live at the Milwaukee Cheese Festival). Maybe I’m being greedy, but why not write some new material that isn’t a dark, creepy secret Mariah almost reveals before running off? Sorry to be so demanding.

Monday, Phyllis went full viper on her son with a quickness when Daniel told her straight facts. As much as I don’t care for the pterodactyl’s chicks, I still feel bad when she attacks them for refusing to enable her. Phyllis wishes she had the well-honed instincts of a shark. In fact, I strongly believe 99% of Genoa City residents would rather see a land shark holding balloons and a box of candy through their door’s peephole than Phyllis. In a just world, Aristotle Dumbass would be inviting her nasty self to Nice to audition for court jester.

Yesterday, Victor berated Audra for not whoring herself out to his liking. Classy. Hey, Holden, instead of bothering Audra after eavesdropping on her, maybe you should make a beeline for Claire and build your friendship so she knows where to find some fine comfort sex after she learns the terms of that dumb, disgusting contract Kyle signed.

Speaking of Bouff, it’s interesting he won’t offer any details about the deal he made with Victor to his parents. Is he too much of a complete fucking idiot to realize he doesn’t have Victor handled and his arrogance is about to flatten his pompadour? Or does he have some glimmer of the huge mistake he made and is trying forestall the inevitable look of disappointment on his parents’ faces? Stay tuned!

[MollyB]

15 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

I had to laugh. Damian found the book is a used bookstore and Lily misplaced the book that Neil once owned. Could that have been Neil’s book in the first place?  Totally random 😜. 

Wouldn't it be fun if Lily found it was daddum's book from notes in the margins and one of them says "planning to fake my death and move to France under the name of Aristotle Dumas."

[Js Nana]

2 minutes ago, MollyB said:

and one of them says "planning to fake my death and move to France under the name of Aristotle Dumas."

Oh no, think how tragic that would be if his children had decided to have his remains cremated - the guilt of knowing that they'd killed daddy would be overwhelming.

[Js Nana]

You'd think by now, that all the idiotic characters on that show would have caught on to the fact that having confidential conversations in public places leaves them open to some bad actor eavesdropping on them and exploiting the contents of the conversation for their own ends - if you're going to discuss some new business strategy or the personal details of a relationship, why not do it in a car, where no one can overhear you.

[MollyB]

12 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

why not do it in a car, where no one can overhear you.

Show's budget doesn't allow for cars right now.  Too busy building the I Am Oz the Powerful set in Nice. [can't wait to see who's behind the curtain.]

[Js Nana]

12 minutes ago, MollyB said:

Too busy building the I Am Oz the Powerful set

Oh, so that's why they're drawing out the big reveal, they had to wait for the funding to come through.

[Js Nana]

Daniel Goddard is not returning to Y&R, so it looks like it's going to be newbie Billie Flynn playing Aristotle Dumas, and the only way Aristotle Dumas can turn out to be Cane Ashby is if they age regress the character, because I doubt that Billie Flynn can come across as a character who was born in 1973, plus Goddard is too closely identified with that character by the viewership - it would almost be like bringing back the character of Neil Winters without Kristof St. John playing him.

[Js Nana]

21 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

And a closeup of Diane’s redo couch shows it’s even fuglier than I thought — it’s striped!

I thought the same thing, but I think it's really the warp in the material that makes it look that way, which doesn't make it look any less like an infected thumb.

[lightninggirl]

"Nice" 
"Dumaaaaahhhhh"
"Invitation" and "How did HE/SHE get an invitation?"
"South of France"
"I wonder who this Aristotle Dumas is?"

I swear to GOD if Aristotle Dumas isn't Drucilla Barber Winters at this point, I'm going to throw something at my TV. 🙄

Between this and Mariah's Big Sad Tour of Secrets 2025™️, I'm so fucking bored. Bless us all, truly.

[Kemper]

2 hours ago, MollyB said:

Wouldn't it be fun if Lily found it was daddum's book from notes in the margins and one of them says "planning to fake my death and move to France under the name of Aristotle Dumas."

Perfection. Laugh-out-loud funny that I didn't know I needed today. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Sally picking out her and Billy's outfits for the French Rivieria. Yes! Prepare to slay, queen. And, you too, um, queen consort. 😒

Good lord, Victor seemed about ready to fall into a coma when he slithered into Adam's office. Why does he always sit in a chair like his spine is made of Silly Putty?

Billy confirmed today he has spoken to Dumas. So Dumas probably isn't Cane because Billy would've recognized Cane's Australian accent, no? 

10 hours ago, lgprimes said:

100% agree. It was OTT in a way that Holden is not. And if it works Holden will get access to a different division of Winters.

Lily is such an overconfident idiot. I almost hope Damian and Holden clean Winters Inc. out but there are probably safeguards in place to keep them from doing too much damage. Heh.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Nikki, maybe you need to be wondering why Victor remains obsessed with the Abbotts, but he can't remember your name. Stop apologizing for him to people like Chelsea who know better. 

I know Billy was only spitballing during his chat with Sally. However, if Dumas is indeed summoning the three elite GC families to his chateau in order to have them witness his public humiliation of Victor, I am here for it. Especially since Victor seems to think Dumas is his avenue to ending the Abbotts once and for all. Oops!

Johnny is an Abbott by birth and a Newman by adoption. So Chelsea likening Johnny & Connor to Billy & Adam didn't work for me. I was surprised Nikki didn't argue the point. 

9 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Hey, Holden, instead of bothering Audra after eavesdropping on her, maybe you should make a beeline for Claire and build your friendship so she knows where to find some fine comfort sex after she learns the terms of that dumb, disgusting contract Kyle signed.

Aw yiss. Claire would find out what it's like to get with a man who has both superior equipment and skill, if my drift is caught. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Joimiaroxeu