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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

17 hours ago, ulkis said:

UO: the more Nina hates on Drew the more I am like "whatever" about his sins. If CM were a better actor Drew would be a blast.

If the writing were better, the story would be much more entertaining. The ketamine incident was great—and CM was very funny—but it's been pretty much resolved in 1-1/2 episodes. Willow stayed mad for about 10 minutes and then reverted back to Stepford Mistress. So what was the point?

I'm "whatever" about Drew's sins because nothing is happening with them. It's all talk and very little action on all sides. It's so boring.

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On 5/10/2025 at 8:34 AM, YaddaYadda said:

The only people Willow seems to be able to hold her own against are the women. When it comes to men, she is a real doormat. A spineless, witless dumbass who doesn't question a single thing said man says to her.

20 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Sadly, because at this point  I hate to give the show any credit at all, that is consistent with having been raised in a cult with a male leader.

And that's exactly what pisses me off most about this BS: Willow's real story - a troubled young woman raised in a cult who has serious issues around powerful or charismatic men - is right there, they've spent years setting it up, and yet Show never actually acknowledges it! It's like they're telling around the story, even though it's sitting right there in the middle of the room, waiting to be acknowledged. The closest I can remember Show coming to actually touch on this was one of Michael's scenes before the kerplosion, when he said something about how Willow changes herself to fit with the men in her life. It's so frustrating because if they'd actually explore this storyline it could be a really interesting one. But this is GH, and we're not allowed to have interesting things.

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CeChase

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1 hour ago, Maelstrom said:

And that's exactly what pisses me off most about this BS: Willow's real story - a troubled young woman raised in a cult who has serious issues around powerful or charismatic men - is right there, they've spent years setting it up, and yet Show never actually acknowledges it! It's like they're telling around the story, even though it's sitting right there in the middle of the room, waiting to be acknowledged. The closest I can remember Show coming to actually touch on this was one of Michael's scenes before the kerplosion, when he said something about how Willow changes herself to fit with the men in her life. It's so frustrating because if they'd actually explore this storyline it could be a really interesting one. But this is GH, and we're not allowed to have interesting things.

This is my issue too, you are so right.  This could be such an interesting story.  

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Daisy

Daisy

On 5/10/2025 at 8:06 PM, ulkis said:

Olivia said she breast fed Dante until he was 5 so maybe Chase was thinking of a toddler who hasn't been weaned yet lol.

 

that's a bit too old there, Olivia

7 hours ago, Maelstrom said:

And that's exactly what pisses me off most about this BS: Willow's real story - a troubled young woman raised in a cult who has serious issues around powerful or charismatic men - is right there, they've spent years setting it up, and yet Show never actually acknowledges it! It's like they're telling around the story, even though it's sitting right there in the middle of the room, waiting to be acknowledged. The closest I can remember Show coming to actually touch on this was one of Michael's scenes before the kerplosion, when he said something about how Willow changes herself to fit with the men in her life. It's so frustrating because if they'd actually explore this storyline it could be a really interesting one. But this is GH, and we're not allowed to have interesting things.

 

i've been saying this forever. 
I also think before Drew went full.... whatever he is now, that they sort of did make sense. Drew since he came back has been on this "I'm the Hero" Kick. it makes him feel needed/wanted/validated and so falling "in love" with a someone who has major issues with men (who validates him/will want him/will see him as the hero - and would never question him) would make sense and then you tell the story of them both realising they are broken etc etc. 

but nopeeee

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

16 hours ago, Maelstrom said:

And that's exactly what pisses me off most about this BS: Willow's real story - a troubled young woman raised in a cult who has serious issues around powerful or charismatic men - is right there, they've spent years setting it up, and yet Show never actually acknowledges it! It's like they're telling around the story, even though it's sitting right there in the middle of the room, waiting to be acknowledged. The closest I can remember Show coming to actually touch on this was one of Michael's scenes before the kerplosion, when he said something about how Willow changes herself to fit with the men in her life. It's so frustrating because if they'd actually explore this storyline it could be a really interesting one. But this is GH, and we're not allowed to have interesting things.

We've been walking about this since Willow married Michael and vanished into him. 

Every now and then, the writers acknowledge that Willow is in cult mode, then the don't mention it again. 

And then we have Drew with his own set of issues. 

Him coming up with that paper where Willow signed her kids away to him in case something happened to her was all kinds of creepy. To me, Drew is just looking for access to the children because they are Qs, and Michaels and he can control the Qs and Michael if those kids are under his thumb.

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statsgirl

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Go Tracy. I thought that she handled that conversation with Lulu very well.

Joss seems to have no qualms about stealing the job from Emma nor about lying on the NDA. Her mother's daughter.

¨L´amour est un oiseau rebelle¨therwise known as Carmen's Habanera, was a folk song. it seems strange to see it as a tango.

Most of the episode felt like filler.

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

I think the worst thing about Spy Girl is that she stole someone else's work and efforts to get a job she should never have gotten.

Joss sucks. Couldn't even be bothered to do the work and didn't even manage to steal the USB on her own.

Portia, just tell your dumb husband the truth already.

I don't care about anything to do with Sonny, or how Carly cannot believe that a man would ever bend over backward for her. It's totally new and never ever happened before. Please Jack, tell me how much I mean to you, I need to hear it every other hour.

You're in your mid-50s Carly, not in High School, you loser.

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ciarra

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36 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I am not thrilled that Tracy is asking Jason to find BL's baby without BL knowing.

Why would she ask Jason to do anything?  

  • He has nothing but contempt for her.   
  • He's a hitman, not a P.I. (even though he tracked down Charlotte) 

And why betray BL by telling yet another person about her baby? 

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statsgirl

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What is Joss going to do when Dalton asks her to write a data program and she can't?  I want a front seat to that.

Carly looking to Brennan for reassurance is disingenuous considering that the rest of the time she expects everyone to do her bidding.

40 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I am not thrilled that Tracy is asking Jason to find BL's baby without BL knowing. The Qs have their own version of baby hoarding that's as gross as anyone's.

Maybe Tracy just wants to know that the kid is okay and doesn't want for something that she could provide.

If she tries to get the child back, I'll admit that I'm wrong.

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TVbitch

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LOL at Jason acting like he and Sonny have been doing Port Charles a favor all this time by being mobsters with a "possibly less bad than other mobsters" influence on the city. 

I would rather see Curtis get back with Jordan than saddle Isaiah with her. Porscha and her constant mewling at Curtis in her attempts to manipulate him is beyond insufferable at this point. I want to see her downfall more than Drew's.

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GHScorpiosRule

GHScorpiosRule

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18 hours ago, ciarra said:

Why would she ask Jason to do anything?  

  • He has nothing but contempt for her.   
  • He's a hitman, not a P.I. (even though he tracked down Charlotte) 

Because he no longer has contempt for her? He's back in the family, so to speak?

Well, he's now "on it" to do the digging to find out if Sidwell was behind the arson attack in Mooby's apartment that set the SLS on fire. Though one would think he would already be looking into that since Mooby killed the actual arsonist.

I just had to snerk and laugh at Mooby's trying to convince Jason about leaving da bidnez and why Sidwell is the best option. All these years we've been told Mooby's the most scariest, toughest, ruthless* not to mention dangerous WannabeMicheal or VitoCorleone Mob Boss on the Eastern Seaboard. Yet his mob? Only consists of him and Jaysus, with a smattering of minions and security. No Capos, no line/heirarchy and NO ONE to take his place.

I guess Mooby thought he'd live forever, eh?

*I nearly fell off my couch when Jason leaned in when telling Mooby how "ruthless" Sidwell was. Like they're any better.

And Mini-Cujo never disappoints with her stupidity: "If that's what is says, of course I'll sign it!" I'm assuming she didn't bother to read the NDA. Not that it matters because we all know she won't adhere to it.

And of COURSE she gets the job. It's not like there were any other more qualified students between NuNotMyEmma and her arrogant ass.

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JMO

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Catching up on the last two episodes.  Thankful that Dante has recovered his sanity, loved the relationship between Rocco and Danny, and the fact that they, and everyone else, consider themselves brothers, despite being the rare duo in PC who share no genes.  It's kind of a testament to Sam and her ability to create family.

I appreciated Tracy working to navigate that fine line between the two young women she loves.  I actually enjoyed Lulu in the episode, which was driven more by her being faithful in her relationships (to Rocco and Tracy) and not by her agenda. 

Detective Chase seems to be a man of many talents.  Wonder who taught him the tango.  And kudos to FH, whose Anna first danced the tango with Duke some 40 or so years ago.  Way to stay in shape!

So, Joss knows why Emma wanted the job, but doesn't quite know why Brennan wants her to have it.  Will she pursue Brennan's agenda while getting info for Emma?  Will the two goals be in conflict?  I can see it being a decent summer storyline for the younger set. 

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dubbel zout

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54 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Joss sucks. Couldn't even be bothered to do the work and didn't even manage to steal the USB on her own.

I was waiting for Professor Perv to ask her something about the database and she couldn't answer him. I'm bummed that never happened. Hopefully Emma figures out that Joss screwed her over for the job and acts accordingly.

54 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Portia, just tell your dumb husband the truth already.

Oh, god, yes. This is excruciatingly boring.

11 minutes ago, JMO said:

So, Joss knows why Emma wanted the job, but doesn't quite know why Brennan wants her to have it.

She does know why Brennan wants her to have the job. The WSB believes that Professor Perv is developing some sort of bioweapon—tested on animals, possibly (hence Emma's involvement at Berkeley)—and Joss is to find out what it is and what it's for.

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Perkie

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2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

and why Sidwell is the best option.

Which is stupid because Selena would be more than happy to take over for Sonny. But we can't have nice things, so....

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

If that's what is says, of course I'll sign it!" I'm assuming she didn't bother to read the NDA.

She doesn't need to read it or adhere to it.  She's not signing it as student Joss, she's signing it as Agent Jackes, so it doesn't matter what it says .  

2 hours ago, ciarra said:

He's a hitman, not a P.I.

Well, Sam the PI is dead.  Curtis the former PI is now in charge of Aurora.  Felicia, the former PI is now a patient advocate.  This town doesn't have a PI, so Jason to the rescue.  It's not like he's busy doing anything else, like trying to find who's trying to kill Sonny, who fried Michael, pretending to be Sasha's baby daddy, failing in the Danny daddy department.  

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Grinaldi

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1 minute ago, Cheyanne11 said:

At the risk of summoning him a la Beetlejuice, what happened to Spinelli? 

I had the same thought since obviously that's where Jason will go. And then I realized that if I were Tracy I would rather talk to Jason than Spin any day of the week. She's at least guaranteed the conversation will be shorter

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statsgirl

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Would Spinelli be any use in this case? Were Gio's records digitized or does his data exist only microfiche?

4 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

She'll steal it/plagiarize it from someone else. Maybe the meatheads in charge at the WSB will write her one.

As Joss handed in a data plan, I figure that the WSB must have written that one too. Even if she could have written the program, there was no time between the party and the hiring next day.

3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

She does know why Brennan wants her to have the job. The WSB believes that Professor Perv is developing some sort of bioweapon—tested on animals, possibly (hence Emma's involvement at Berkeley)—and Joss is to find out what it is and what it's for.

Because Brennan wants it for the WSB himself.

Still doesn't explain why Dalton would tel it on higher order animals as Emma complained; testing it on the ubitiquous white mouse would be enough.

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ByaNose

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At least, Drew wasn’t on today. Unfortunately, guilty Portia was. She should really spill her guts to Curtis and be done with it. I don’t even think he be that mad at her. It would just make him hate Drew even more and want to kill him. I’m still pretty Drew is being killed off. It will probably happen at the Nurses Ball. All of the potential suspects will be in attendance for the whodunit. Also, CM hasn’t posted anything from the studio recently. It’s all been his personal content and his awesome body. He is stacked. I think they filmed the Nurses Ball months ago and he’s probably already left the show. At least, that’s my theory, 

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Perkie

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11 hours ago, graight said:

If I were Lulu, I'd be mad that people were coming to my house without my knowledge to have big discussions.  Last week Lois and Dante had their big apology session there with Lulu gone and now Laura and Jordan meet there.  I'd start charging a fee!

They rebuilt that set just for Lulu and her invisible children, so they are going to use it as much as possible.  When they changed Kelly's to Bobbie's, that's all we saw for months and now we never see that set.  So I give it a month and then we won't see it anymore

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

12 hours ago, graight said:

If I were Lulu, I'd be mad that people were coming to my house without my knowledge to have big discussions.  Last week Lois and Dante had their big apology session there with Lulu gone and now Laura and Jordan meet there.  I'd start charging a fee!

Well you know, Laura going to talk about an international criminal whose entourage she is infiltrating is no biggie. She's just endangering the lives of her daughter, grandkids and anyone who visits.

It's especially egregious with people suspecting Sidwell of having firebombed Michael.

Also, that house with the outside and the colors looks like something out of a Tim Burton movie. It's more Beetlejuice's house than Lulu's.

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Sake614

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All Spinelli needs to do is pound on his always charged laptop space bar several times and voila! Gio’s birth certificate and adoption records. That’s if there even are any records. It’s equally possible that Lois just handed the baby to whatever her name was and called it a day. Maybe paid a nurse or someone in the records room to put the adopted mother’s name on the birth certificate. We know they didn’t use an adoption agency.

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

1 hour ago, ciarra said:

Curtis is moron.  He goes to his ex-wife and says, "My wife is lying to me."  Why the hell don't you just ask Portia why she's lying?  Go behind her back, you spineless weasel.

"So you're saying I should try to hear [Portia] out." Curtis, do you want to know what's going on or not? 

Emma's anger at Joss is warranted, but it's farfetched to think Joss wouldn't report Professor Perv. She's not pro–animal abuse.

What was Spy Girl scanning the office for? Vaughn's lock-picking skills leave something to be desired, even if all of that rattling was probably intentional.

I can't believe how unsoapy the Gio reveal will be. He's had a fine life, yet Lulu is hellbent on blowing it all up because she thinks it's her place to do it. I love how she thinks she can replace one family with another and it won't cause any angst. 

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YaddaYadda

YaddaYadda

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21 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I can't believe how unsoapy the Gio reveal will be. He's had a fine life, yet Lulu is hellbent on blowing it all up because she thinks it's her place to do it. I love how she thinks she can replace one family with another and it won't cause any angst. 

Lulu's 4 year coma has made her even dumber if that's possible. 

@Cheyanne11, good job summoning Spinelli. You didn't even have to say his name three times. Can you summon me a lottery win while you're at it?

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Daisy

Daisy

22 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I can't believe how unsoapy the Gio reveal will be. He's had a fine life, yet Lulu is hellbent on blowing it all up because she thinks it's her place to do it. I love how she thinks she can replace one family with another and it won't cause any angst. 

my hope - so you know it won't happen

is that Gio rips Lulu a new one for blowing up his world and honestly wants "nothing" to do AT ALL with being part of his "families" life. (as I fundementally refuse to believe he's BLQ's ever in this life because Edward deserves better than having a biological Corinthos in his family won't even feel bad we're "losing a Q". )

this show spits on every single version on family except biological and it's disgusting. (and i saw the previews. I wish someone flat out tell Carly that while they hate Drew and Willow you don't have the right to steal her kids for Michael. that's MICHAEL'S job   well to get custody anyway). and that if it's all for "well think of the children" thell me how much that stuck for you when Michael got shot in the head and Morgan blew up and Joss nearly died because you needed to be near THE MOB your whole damned adult life. Shut the eeff up. 

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GHScorpiosRule

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39 minutes ago, Daisy said:

this show spits on every single version on family except biological and it's disgusting.

It didn't used to do this. We have, as much as I hate to admit it, but Mooby loves the SLS as if he was his own blood, and he's not. Everything is SLS!SLS!SLS! with him.

Then we have how Bobbie fought for custody of Lucas; and don't forget she adopted BJ (or did she? Still she loved her) when married to Tony.

Monica and Alan-adopting Emily.

It's only been in recent years, okay, a decade, ever since Dante joined the cast, that BLOOD is what matters has been shoved at us.

While Gio should lambast NuNuLooLoo, he should also save some for Lois and Gloria. Why they or his mother (because adopted or not, she was his mother, if she really adopted him and not, like pretend he was her child), never told him he was adopted? Something shameful? To be hidden under the carpet as a "dirty little sekrit" or something?

The one who should be spared any anger is Dante. Because he didn't know and wasn't told.

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KittyQ

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2 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Joss: I didn't backstab you.

Me: LOL

I guess that depends on Joss's definition of "back" and "stab".  

Lulu cannot understand that she isn't in charge of everyone else's life. Maybe someone should set her onto the Sonny/Sidwell esplanade situation. Plenty for Lulu to get into there. There's the added advantage of having her own mother being in the midst of all that. 

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Cheyanne11

Cheyanne11

8 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

While Gio should lambast NuNuLooLoo, he should also save some for Lois and Gloria.

Save some?  They should be #1 and #2 on his list of people to bitch out.  Not only did they continue to lie to him after his adoptive mother died, but from his birth they concocted the insane war hero dad story.  They should be named and shamed for all of that.  

10 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

The one who should be spared any anger is Dante. Because he didn't know and wasn't told.

I don't think Brook Lynn needs any of Gio's anger, either.  She made a choice as a teenager and didn't know what Lois and Gloria did behind her back.

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GHScorpiosRule

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1 minute ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Save some?  They should be #1 and #2 on his list of people to bitch out.  Not only did they continue to lie to him after his adoptive mother died, but from his birth they concocted the insane war hero dad story.  They should be named and shamed for all of that.  

Oh for sure! I thought I was in the minority regarding those two harridans.

2 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I don't think Brook Lynn needs any of Gio's anger, either.  She made a choice as a teenager and didn't know what Lois and Gloria did behind her back.

I agree. As much as I don't like the character, in this instance, she is blameless.

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Bringonthedrama

Bringonthedrama

23 hours ago, JMO said:

Catching up on the last two episodes.  Thankful that Dante has recovered his sanity, loved the relationship between Rocco and Danny, and the fact that they, and everyone else, consider themselves brothers, despite being the rare duo in PC who share no genes.  It's kind of a testament to Sam and her ability to create family.

Rocco and Danny are essentially extended family in addition to considering themselves brothers. Rocco's mother Lulu is Nikolas Cassadine's (half)sister; Nikolas and Danny's mother Sam are (or were, now) cousins. Soon Rocco will find out Gio is his (half)brother and Danny will find out Gio is his cousin (because Jason and Brook Lynn are cousins).  

Imagine Rocco's lines: "You're my brother, but you were already family anyway. My uncle is your cousin and now my brother is also your cousin. "

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Daisy

Daisy

39 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

It didn't used to do this. We have, as much as I hate to admit it, but Mooby loves the SLS as if he was his own blood, and he's not. Everything is SLS!SLS!SLS! with him.

Then we have how Bobbie fought for custody of Lucas; and don't forget she adopted BJ (or did she? Still she loved her) when married to Tony.

Monica and Alan-adopting Emily.

It's only been in recent years, okay, a decade, ever since Dante joined the cast, that BLOOD is what matters has been shoved at us.

While Gio should lambast NuNuLooLoo, he should also save some for Lois and Gloria. Why they or his mother (because adopted or not, she was his mother, if she really adopted him and not, like pretend he was her child), never told him he was adopted? Something shameful? To be hidden under the carpet as a "dirty little sekrit" or something?

The one who should be spared any anger is Dante. Because he didn't know and wasn't told.

oh i know! that's why i am so mad. I think this show out of the other soaps I've watched really handled "Found Families" so well.  I will ALWAYS hate Sonny/Michael's relationship but i never doubted for a moment that Sonny loves the kid. 

what really pisses me off is what they did to the Mac/His Girls dynamic. And I even sort of understand. it from a pyschological/sociological level that sure you think  I want a boy (just like some people just want a girl)  but for like 20+ years Mac's life was about Robin, Maxie and Georgie. They were HIS. DAUGHTERS. they all saw Mac as their father (I think Robin still just called mac Uncle but the father/daughter bond was there) and then they just shove useless stupid Cody in there  and it's like SCREW THAT, IT'S ALL ABOUT BIOLOGICAL BLOOD NOW. and Don't even get me started with Sasha being Robert's. pisses me STRAIGHT off. 

True Dante shouldn't get it.
Lois etc totes should.
I mean the only times i ever experience "adoption as a secret" is mostly because they just don't want the kid to know and deal with 'omg their parents gave them up." which i think is dumb but then I'm not a parent or ever will be so  i dunno. I only yell at them on teeeve lol

36 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I don't think Brook Lynn needs any of Gio's anger, either.  She made a choice as a teenager and didn't know what Lois and Gloria did behind her back.

agreed. she might the right choice she could  (and I loved How Tracy told Lulu off  about it. Lulu decided she didn't want to be pregnant and she got support from those she neeed. why the eff is she tormenting BLQ about this). 

So Gio's adopted mother was Lois's cousin or something?

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statsgirl

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If Lulu is so convinced that Gio is Brook Lynn and Dante's daughter, son,why doesn't she just steal his toothbrush and compare it to the DNA on Dante's glass or fork? Or Rocco's at a pinch.  Felicia could teach her how and where to send it. No need to do all the digging around to where Brook Lynn was when the baby was born.

It's a sad day when Carly is the Voice of Reason. Her dress, however, could fit into a bondage club.

Also the voice of reason -- Jordan for telling Curtis not to talk to her about his wife.

Joss needs to tone down the sexy tops if she's going to be an RA.

Is Tracy actually going to be in the Nurse's Ball? I can't remember JE being in it before.

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