Carlin and Evan: But Mostly Carlin!

[ozziemom]

I wonder if the reality of Evan graduating and the prospect of him being gone from early morning to evening five days a week hit Carlin pretty hard. Sort of like Jill Dillard when she realized Dreck actually went to an office full time. These girls were used to their parents being around all the time with irregular schedules. And there were always plenty of other people at home too. Something clearly happened during Zade’s birth but the continued episodes 🤷🏼‍♀️. They definitely enjoy attention but how long can they sustain this?

[Jeanne222]

12 hours ago, Heathen said:

If any Bates gets a Target sponsorship, I will be happy to contact Target corporate and tell them about Bill Gothard, the Confederate room, and most of all, the George Floyd incident. I'll make sure the media knows about it, too. The Bateses are dressed-up garbage. 

Maybe Target is smart and that's why none of them have a sponsorship there!  Fingers crossed.

[Notabug]

12 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Maybe Target is smart and that's why none of them have a sponsorship there!  Fingers crossed.

I don't know that Target is smart, but they do seem to be thoughtful when it comes to who they allow to publicize them.  For that matter, it doesn't seem like they're as prone to use  online influencers as some other retailers.

I think mainly Carlin likes to namedrop and, amongst her poorly educated, vapid, fundie crowd; brands like Target, Chik-fil-A and Starbucks are considered the height of youthful sophistication.  I say that as a major Target fan, BTW.  They are currently remodeling my local store and it is a mess in there.  I cannot wait to see how it turns out, but it is currently giving me the sads every time I go in.

[cereality]

Guess they aren't getting enough hits on YT bc they are now previewing their videos on IG hoping people will go watch. Reality is they've gone from 400-500k views per week for OMG EMERGENCY to back to the 200k views no matter how much they hype it up. That's a weekly income hit of $1000-1500 per week bc us snarkers just won't go watch - lol.

But IG previews it all for those who don't want to watch for them to make $. It's got Carlin seizing and convulsing on concrete - WTF - who wants to show that and what was Evan holding a phone with the other hand?? It addresses that Evan asked for an FMLA extension and his company said no they'd have to fire him, with Carlin sitting there teary about how her man is putting his life on hold for her after working sooo hard for 5 yrs with Evan playing doting husband so - no babe it isn't your fault, I'm happy to do it. And they throw in the bit about Zade having a cough so Evan took him to urgent care. Um do their kids not have a regular pediatrician - they use drop by services to manage care of an infant who has had a cold for a month??

Edited to Add: Per Reddit people who've watched - they apparently considered hiring 1-2 ppl to watch Carlin and the kids so Evan could work but the cost of that and the discomfort of being away from Carlin was too much. [Uh isn't he away from her when she goes shopping with her sisters etc. or even at church when he's off socializing with someone else. Like they didn't even try it for a week to see if it'd work or see if he could be away 4 hrs/day and thus work PT?] And she's going to have an inpatient EEG for 5 days in Oct. and if that doesn't figure this out, she's going to be referred to Mayo.

What is stopping them from going to Mayo on their own now? I wonder if they have an HMO thru his job [and now thru COBRA]  so they need a referral - I would assume so as those are the cheapest plans but given that they get drs to order cardiology tests even w the drs saying it probably isn't going to show anything, why not start bugging the drs to go to Mayo NOW and then Mayo finishes the testing and figures it out once and for all? Rather than waiting until Oct, referrals in Nov, then you hopefully get in by year end. I mean this started in May - you could even present it as - we need this sorted out so Evan can go back to work FT w/ some comfort that Carlin will be safe on her meds w/ just a nanny at home, bc we just bought a house and have 2 kids. Shockingly drs. do understand practical realities like that and they don't expect that all their patients have YT income??

Edited August 27, 2022 by cereality

[Salacious Kitty]

So Evan's officially fired? Nice job, morons.

[SMama]

Evan was fired, so that is the paperwork (along with the certification) he was picking up from work. I wonder how much he will get on unemployment benefits. He better take advantage of Cobra because Carlin’s medical issues are not going away. 

[GeeGolly]

Carlin and Evan prayed about it and as Evan put it, he was fired and hired on the same day. He is now a BSB employee. 

They also showed a seizure, talked about their neurology appointment - nothing new.

[Salacious Kitty]

Carlin said something about going back in October for the 5 day hospital EEG. The Mayo Clinic was also mentioned as a possibility, but I don't see that happening.

[Chicklet]

They have COBRA? How on earth are they affording that? Won't it put a dent in her starbucks expenditures? Evan being fired has disaster all over it if she's diagnosed with something that needs constant follow up. Or the baby has chronic potato asthma.

Edited August 27, 2022 by Chicklet

[Salacious Kitty]

I wonder how much they're really making off YouTube? They may need to step up the video productions to bring on more cash.

[GeeGolly]

I don't recall them ever talking about insurance. If it was through his work, it obviously isn't now, but I'm not sure COBRA was mentioned.

[BetyBee]

I don't know how these 2 got a mortgage on their new place, but the mortgage company was likely counting Evan's earnings and fully expecting him to continue working. These two seem sneaky to me. They want what they want when they want it and they expect to keep what they have without actually working for it. If his job provided their health insurance, they are nuts to throw it away when Carlin is having all these health issues. I do know that he was completing training, but he must have been making some money or they wouldn't have qualified for a mortgage. 

[cereality]

12 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I wonder how much they're really making off YouTube? They may need to step up the video productions to bring on more cash.

Usually it's about $3-5 per 100k views. It's a pretty standard metric and people who do social media analytics have been confirming it on Reddit as I guess they can tell by looking at the stats on accounts what they'd generally make. So their EMERGENCY videos at first which were bringing in 500k views were making them $2500/wk, which I think got Evan pretty excited. But if you look at the views, there's only like 2-3 videos that got that many hits - right at the beginning when people were very curious. Their usual boring content - like crying hysterical tears about moving out of a rental or renovating the new house or whatever brings in closer to 150-200k views = $750-1000/wk. Hope Evan is watching his stats closely because lately even when he spins videos as medical updates, they're still getting about 200-250k views as people largely aren't THAT interested so that = $1000-1250/wk. 

Not saying $1250 wk is bad money as its = 65k/yr plus whatever they get from BSB which ain't much given their hordes of unsold inventory. 65k isn't bad money but not usually buy a big house and eat out constantly and vacation constantly w/ 2 kids in tow money either.

And we don't KNOW they're on COBRA, for all we know they're on Medicaid [they're def sneaky enough to hide all the income to show the state they need Medicaid] - which then would make sense why they have to wait until a dr. says they can go to Mayo. But if they are on COBRA for a family of 4 even on a cheap HMO plan, that's no less than $1000/month [and if it were a good plan, closer to $1800-2000/mo].

Edited August 27, 2022 by cereality

[BitterApple]

5 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

 Or the baby has chronic potato asthma.

I'm going to hell for laughing at that as hard as I did.

I feel like Evan and Carlin are on track to become the next Chad and Erin. Stupid decisions they're making now will doom them in the future. 

I said a while back that Carlin pimping out her medical drama would eventually lose steam. As things drag out with no diagnosis (or no diagnosis they'll admit to), people get bored and move on. So what's left? They've already achieved the big milestones (wedding, babies, house purchase), so do viewers really care about Carlin's daily Starbucks and Sonic runs? 

As far as Evan working for the Boutique, how much is that place really making? Both Whit and Carlin treat it like a half-assed hobby. Will it generate enough income to cover all their bills? Give it another month and Evan's gut will match Zach's. 

[Heathen]

29 minutes ago, SMama said:

Evan was fired, so that is the paperwork (along with the certification) he was picking up from work. I wonder how much he will get on unemployment benefits. He better take advantage of Cobra because Carlin’s medical issues are not going away. 

He shouldn't get unemployment. He wasn't laid off -- he was fired because he didn't come back to work.

What a pair of fudging dumbasses those two are. 

2 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I'm going to hell for laughing at that as hard as I did.

I feel like Evan and Carlin are on track to become the next Chad and Erin. Stupid decisions they're making now will doom them in the future. 

I said a while back that Carlin pimping out her medical drama would eventually lose steam. As things drag out with no diagnosis (or no diagnosis they'll admit to), people get bored and move on. So what's left? They've already achieved the big milestones (wedding, babies, house purchase), so do viewers really care about Carlin's daily Starbucks and Sonic runs? 

As far as Evan working for the Boutique, how much is that place really making? Both Whit and Carlin treat it like a half-assed hobby. Will it generate enough income to cover all their bills? Give it another month and Evan's gut will match Zach's. 

He's already well on his way. 

11 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

I don't know how these 2 got a mortgage on their new place, but the mortgage company was likely counting Evan's earnings and fully expecting him to continue working. These two seem sneaky to me. They want what they want when they want it and they expect to keep what they have without actually working for it. If his job provided their health insurance, they are nuts to throw it away when Carlin is having all these health issues. I do know that he was completing training, but he must have been making some money or they wouldn't have qualified for a mortgage. 

It just occurred to me that the idiots had this planned all along, and that's why they were in such a big hurry to get a mortgage and buy a house. They knew they wouldn't be able to get a mortgage after Dumbfuck #1 quit the job he spent five years training for. Dumbfuck #2's vanity project isn't going to show enough income on paper for them to get anything on her income alone. 

[floridamom]

Perhaps this is not a good time for Joy to visit. Evan is a fool; Carlin is an even bigger fool. A responsible husband in their situation would say, "babe, I gotta work". This idiot spent 5 years training to be an electrician only to dump it? His wife clearly can't handle all the drama that is self-created in her life. No reason her large, CHRISTIAN family can't take turns staying with her while Evan is at work. Heck if it were my daughter, (KellyJo, I'm looking at you..) I would be involved in helping out a lot. BTW, just how many mouths can that silly boutique feed? Are they doing a mint of a business? I didn't think there was that much interest in cheap, shapeless dresses that really all look the same; but have different patterns. Some really great, great comments here. Happy to read them...thank you all for them.

[GeeGolly]

14 minutes ago, Heathen said:

He shouldn't get unemployment. He wasn't laid off -- he was fired because he didn't come back to work.

What a pair of fudging dumbasses those two are. 

He's already well on his way. 

It just occurred to me that the idiots had this planned all along, and that's why they were in such a big hurry to get a mortgage and buy a house. They knew they wouldn't be able to get a mortgage after Dumbfuck #1 quit the job he spent five years training for. Dumbfuck #2's vanity project isn't going to show enough income on paper for them to get anything on her income alone. 

Yup, he was itching to quit on the first day possible after getting his training completed.

Its odd, my neighbor growing up had seizures and wasn't under 24 hour care. Also my kids were friends with a kid who had epilepsy and he went to school, played sports, went off to college and then lived on his own.

Is it typical for someone with epilepsy to need 24 hour care?

[Heathen]

1 minute ago, floridamom said:

Perhaps this is not a good time for Joy to visit. Evan is a fool; Carlin is an even bigger fool. A responsible husband in their situation would say, "babe, I gotta work". This idiot spent 5 years training to be an electrician only to dump it? His wife clearly can't handle all the drama that is self-created in her life. No reason her large, CHRISTIAN family can't take turns staying with her while Evan is at work. Heck if it were my daughter, (KellyJo, I'm looking at you..) I would be involved in helping out a lot. BTW, just how many mouths can that silly boutique feed? Are they doing a mint of a business? I didn't think there was that much interest in cheap, shapeless dresses that really all look the same; but have different patterns. Some really great, great comments here. Happy to read them...thank you all for them.

In all fairness to the other Bateses, idiot Carlin is NOT their responsibility any more. She's a married adult with two children of her own, not a minor or even living at home. 

Then add in the, ahem, suggestion that she's at minimum exaggerating, and I wouldn't help her out either. 

4 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Yup, he was itching to quit on the first day possible after getting his training completed.

Its odd, my neighbor growing up had seizures and wasn't under 24 hour care. Also my kids were friends with a kid who had epilepsy and he went to school, played sports, went off to college and then lived on his own.

Is it typical for someone with epilepsy to need 24 hour care?

I have epilepsy. It runs on three sides of my family. It is NOT typical for someone with epilepsy to need 24-hour care. I have only heard of that for children with rare, intractable epilepsies who usually have significant developmental delays as well. 

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, cereality said:

Guess they aren't getting enough hits on YT bc they are now previewing their videos on IG hoping people will go watch. Reality is they've gone from 400-500k views per week for OMG EMERGENCY to back to the 200k views no matter how much they hype it up. That's a weekly income hit of $1000-1500 per week bc us snarkers just won't go watch - lol.

But IG previews it all for those who don't want to watch for them to make $. It's got Carlin seizing and convulsing on concrete - WTF - who wants to show that and what was Evan holding a phone with the other hand?? It addresses that Evan asked for an FMLA extension and his company said no they'd have to fire him, with Carlin sitting there teary about how her man is putting his life on hold for her after working sooo hard for 5 yrs with Evan playing doting husband so - no babe it isn't your fault, I'm happy to do it. And they throw in the bit about Zade having a cough so Evan took him to urgent care. Um do their kids not have a regular pediatrician - they use drop by services to manage care of an infant who has had a cold for a month??

Edited to Add: Per Reddit people who've watched - they apparently considered hiring 1-2 ppl to watch Carlin and the kids so Evan could work but the cost of that and the discomfort of being away from Carlin was too much. [Uh isn't he away from her when she goes shopping with her sisters etc. or even at church when he's off socializing with someone else. Like they didn't even try it for a week to see if it'd work or see if he could be away 4 hrs/day and thus work PT?] And she's going to have an inpatient EEG for 5 days in Oct. and if that doesn't figure this out, she's going to be referred to Mayo.

What is stopping them from going to Mayo on their own now? I wonder if they have an HMO thru his job [and now thru COBRA]  so they need a referral - I would assume so as those are the cheapest plans but given that they get drs to order cardiology tests even w the drs saying it probably isn't going to show anything, why not start bugging the drs to go to Mayo NOW and then Mayo finishes the testing and figures it out once and for all? Rather than waiting until Oct, referrals in Nov, then you hopefully get in by year end. I mean this started in May - you could even present it as - we need this sorted out so Evan can go back to work FT w/ some comfort that Carlin will be safe on her meds w/ just a nanny at home, bc we just bought a house and have 2 kids. Shockingly drs. do understand practical realities like that and they don't expect that all their patients have YT income??

Even with a referral, it probably takes several months to get an appointment with a specialist at Mayo Clinic.  Despite her videos and all the hullaballoo, it does not appear that Carlin has a life threatening problem nor does she have a problem amenable to surgery or other quick fix.  Even once she gets to Mayo, their rounds of further testing will take months, too.  The fact of the matter is that, if Carlin has some sort of non-psychogenic cause for her episodes (I refuse to call them seizures, I don't think they are); she is going to have some very rare zebra of a problem, one that will not easily be treated, let alone cured.

I don't work for Mayo, but I work for the hospital system that US News ranked #2 in the US and the big time specialists in neurology or cardiology, which is where Carlin would be referred; are scheduling new patients into next year at this point.  She can get a appointment with an internist or one of the general cardiologists or neurologists fairly soon, but they are going to look at everything that has already been done and, aside from maybe repeating a test or two, refer her on to a higher level.  Alas, Carlin's symptoms are not likely to interest any of the big guns enough to get her on the fast track.  She's had a massive amount of testing with no specific cause found for her issues or seemingly any testing positive for any medical condition; the docs will see that and realize that the odds of finding something extremely unusual wrong with her are far less than the odds that she's just got anxiety and a need for attention and her episodes are not medical in origin.   She is already seeing specialists at Vanderbilt, a highly esteemed facility, she's getting very competent care in all probability.

So, Evan decided that 12 weeks of vacation FMLA was not enough and expected his new employer to let him have open ended time off while he posted all their vacations and trips and 'date nights' all over social media?  He should be ashamed of himself.  Alas, these people have no shame.

Edited August 27, 2022 by Notabug

[Salacious Kitty]

I've never seen anxiety present as whatever is happening to Carlin. And I have seen a LOT of anxiety. I have GAD, as does my husband, brother, and MIL. And that's just my direct family. No seizures or anything close to that presentation.

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, SMama said:

Evan was fired, so that is the paperwork (along with the certification) he was picking up from work. I wonder how much he will get on unemployment benefits. He better take advantage of Cobra because Carlin’s medical issues are not going away. 

He won’t be eligible for unemployment benefits in this situation.

[Jeanne222]

Talking insurance Evans paycheck minus a small amount for company health insurance would surely pay for a nanny. 

COBRA is super expensive. 

I’m kind of wondering what Zack and Whit do for health insurance  if he had COBRA it only lasts so long  

Could the BSB have a health insurance plan for employees and their families?

 I don’t think Medicaid figures in.  They can’t hide YouTube paychecks from the government!

 I want to feel sympathy for their predicament but it’s like they are so happy about it I always pause and think… hummm  

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, Chicklet said:

They have COBRA? How on earth are they affording that? Won't it put a dent in her starbucks expenditures? Evan being fired has disaster all over it if she's diagnosed with something that needs constant follow up. Or the baby has chronic potato asthma.

Right, COBRA for a family of 4 is $$$$.

Edited August 27, 2022 by Cinnabon

[Notabug]

28 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I've never seen anxiety present as whatever is happening to Carlin. And I have seen a LOT of anxiety. I have GAD, as does my husband, brother, and MIL. And that's just my direct family. No seizures or anything close to that presentation.

Anxiety can present with a wide variety of symptoms, as can depression.  Carlin was raised in a culture where mental health issues were not taken seriously, anyone complaining of anxiety or depression would be told they needed to pray more.  Meanwhile, her parents also used the ER as their primary caregiver, it doesn't seem like any of those kids got regular care from a provider, that the only care they ever got was from the ER as Gil bragged to the world.  Seems like Carlin has carried on that tradition for her kids.  A baby who has been coughing for a month needs a head to toe assessment from a pediatric provider, not a quick trip to an Urgent Care, which, as the name says, is not for ongoing or chronic problems.

I think Carlin has poor coping skills, in part due to her upbringing and lack of education; and she was completely overwhelmed when the show got cancelled just as her husband was starting a full time job, she had a second child and they bought a house.  Not to mention the ongoing strife amongst the sisters. I think those stressors have possibly caused her physical symptoms because she doesn't have the ability to express them in any other way.

Edited August 27, 2022 by Notabug

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, BetyBee said:

I don't know how these 2 got a mortgage on their new place, but the mortgage company was likely counting Evan's earnings and fully expecting him to continue working. These two seem sneaky to me. They want what they want when they want it and they expect to keep what they have without actually working for it. If his job provided their health insurance, they are nuts to throw it away when Carlin is having all these health issues. I do know that he was completing training, but he must have been making some money or they wouldn't have qualified for a mortgage. 

I also encourage them to research the history of FMLA and how and why Americans finally got that benefit. Think hard about it. But they won’t.

1 hour ago, cereality said:

they're still getting about 200-250k views as people largely aren't THAT interested so that = $1000-1250/wk. 

And this is pre-tax income. Self employment taxes are a bitch. 

1 hour ago, cereality said:

COBRA, for all we know they're on Medicaid [they're def sneaky enough to hide all the income to show the state they need Medicaid]

If they’re on Medicaid, they are committing fraud and breaking the law. It will catch up to them and they will be required to pay back a LOT of money.

Edited August 27, 2022 by Cinnabon

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I don't recall them ever talking about insurance. If it was through his work, it obviously isn't now, but I'm not sure COBRA was mentioned.

COBRA averages about $400-500 a month per person; so, if Evan's prior 'job', the one he worked at for less than a week or so, was typical; they need to come up with around $2000 a month for that; not to mention copays, deductibles and such.

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

I'm going to hell for laughing at that as hard as I did.

I feel like Evan and Carlin are on track to become the next Chad and Erin. Stupid decisions they're making now will doom them in the future. 

I said a while back that Carlin pimping out her medical drama would eventually lose steam. As things drag out with no diagnosis (or no diagnosis they'll admit to), people get bored and move on. So what's left? They've already achieved the big milestones (wedding, babies, house purchase), so do viewers really care about Carlin's daily Starbucks and Sonic runs? 

As far as Evan working for the Boutique, how much is that place really making? Both Whit and Carlin treat it like a half-assed hobby. Will it generate enough income to cover all their bills? Give it another month and Evan's gut will match Zach's. 

If he’s going to “work” there, then they should be able to let some of their staff go to save money. No reason he can’t be unpacking/packing the merchandise and anything else that needs to be done.

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Yup, he was itching to quit on the first day possible after getting his training completed.

Its odd, my neighbor growing up had seizures and wasn't under 24 hour care. Also my kids were friends with a kid who had epilepsy and he went to school, played sports, went off to college and then lived on his own.

Is it typical for someone with epilepsy to need 24 hour care?

Of course not. Many single people also have epilepsy and don’t have babysitters with them every day. They are ridiculous and liars.

[GeeGolly]

17 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I've never seen anxiety present as whatever is happening to Carlin. And I have seen a LOT of anxiety. I have GAD, as does my husband, brother, and MIL. And that's just my direct family. No seizures or anything close to that presentation.

At this point I'm not even sure the seizures real, but I agree with you, if they are real it is not anxiety. I've been treating clients diagnosed with anxiety for decades, and endless other mental health diagnoses, and none of them present like Carlin, with the exception of one - Conversion Disorder.

[Cinnabon]

22 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I've never seen anxiety present as whatever is happening to Carlin. And I have seen a LOT of anxiety. I have GAD, as does my husband, brother, and MIL. And that's just my direct family. No seizures or anything close to that presentation.

Are you familiar with conversion disorders? Not common, but they do happen.

[GeeGolly]

1 minute ago, Cinnabon said:

Are you familiar with conversion disorders? Not common, but they do happen.

We posted at the same time. Conversion Disorder does not fall under anxiety.

[Salacious Kitty]

2 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Are you familiar with conversion disorders? Not common, but they do happen.

You cross posted with @GeeGolly. 😀

[Cinnabon]

3 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

At this point I'm not even sure the seizures real, but I agree with you, if they are real it is not anxiety. I've been treating clients diagnosed with anxiety for decades, and endless other mental health diagnoses, and none of them present like Carlin, with the exception of one - Conversion Disorder.

You beat me to it with conversion disorder! MSWs for the win. 🙂

[Notabug]

2 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Are you familiar with conversion disorders? Not common, but they do happen.

That is what I was trying to say, thanks.  

[Cinnabon]

Just now, Notabug said:

That is what I was trying to say, thanks.  

We were all posting at the same time. 🤣

[lookeyloo]

38 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Even with a referral, it probably takes several months to get an appointment with a specialist at Mayo Clinic.  Despite her videos and all the hullaballoo, it does not appear that Carlin has a life threatening problem nor does she have a problem amenable to surgery or other quick fix.  Even once she gets to Mayo, their rounds of further testing will take months, too.  The fact of the matter is that, if Carlin has some sort of non-psychogenic cause for her episodes (I refuse to call them seizures, I don't think they are); she is going to have some very rare zebra of a problem, one that will not easily be treated, let alone cured.

I don't work for Mayo, but I work for the hospital system that US News ranked #2 in the US and the big time specialists in neurology or cardiology, which is where Carlin would be referred; are scheduling new patients into next year at this point.  She can get a appointment with an internist or one of the general cardiologists or neurologists fairly soon, but they are going to look at everything that has already been done and, aside from maybe repeating a test or two, refer her on to a higher level.  Alas, Carlin's symptoms are not likely to interest any of the big guns enough to get her on the fast track.  She's had a massive amount of testing with no specific cause found for her issues or seemingly any testing positive for any medical condition; the docs will see that and realize that the odds of finding something extremely unusual wrong with her are far less than the odds that she's just got anxiety and a need for attention and her episodes are not medical in origin.   She is already seeing specialists at Vanderbilt, a highly esteemed facility, she's getting very competent care in all probability.

So, Evan decided that 12 weeks of vacation FMLA was not enough and expected his new employer to let him have open ended time off while he posted all their vacations and trips and 'date nights' all over social media?  He should be ashamed of himself.  Alas, these people have no shame.

I agree with everything you said, except for the notion that it could be something rarely seen or difficult to pinpoint.  I only say this because I have been reading the medical mysteries on the NY Times website and there are some issues that have been through the mill so to speak with many well qualified specialists and by a rare stroke of luck, these people end up with just the right provider who can determine the issue.  Sometimes there is a treatment or a cure but not always.  So, while I have always thought some of Carlin's issues are in her head, so to  speak, but doesn't make them any less valid, such as the Conversion Disorder mentioned.  One of my friend's adult daughters has been having similar issues as Carlin, except for the "seizures" and she is in Boston and going to all those special specialists and her primary care dr. said he suspects long covid although she was the only one in her household who never tested positive when other members did.  Dr. said she probably had it once or twice.  

[Cinnabon]

10 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

I agree with everything you said, except for the notion that it could be something rarely seen or difficult to pinpoint.  I only say this because I have been reading the medical mysteries on the NY Times website and there are some issues that have been through the mill so to speak with many well qualified specialists and by a rare stroke of luck, these people end up with just the right provider who can determine the issue.  Sometimes there is a treatment or a cure but not always.  So, while I have always thought some of Carlin's issues are in her head, so to  speak, but doesn't make them any less valid, such as the Conversion Disorder mentioned.  One of my friend's adult daughters has been having similar issues as Carlin, except for the "seizures" and she is in Boston and going to all those special specialists and her primary care dr. said he suspects long covid although she was the only one in her household who never tested positive when other members did.  Dr. said she probably had it once or twice.  

Seizures are now known to be a symptom of long Covid in some people. But Carlin won’t care - she’s been traveling maskless all over the country, including in airports/on planes. Her infant son has been sick for weeks and she still drags him around town daily and hosts houseguests AND their germy kids (who have also just flown maskless. 

Edited August 27, 2022 by Cinnabon

[GeeGolly]

1 minute ago, Cinnabon said:

Seizures are now known to be a symptom of long Covid in some people. But Carlin won’t care - she’s been traveling maskless all over the country, including in airports/on planes. Her infant son has been sick for weeks and she still drags him around town daily and hosts houseguests AND their germy kids (who have also just flown maskless. 

And apparently their health care facilities don't require masks. Again, I'm so glad I live where I live.

[Peanut6711]

Between posting that he got hired (BSB) after getting fired (not returning to work post FMLA would go down as voluntary termination/job abandonment I'd imagine) I can't see any way he'd qualify for unemployment now.  Financially, they are so screwed with a new (and likely big) mortgage, medical bills, and 2 kids. But they clearly aren't smart enough to realize that yet. 

[GeeGolly]

Well seeing as the only time they spend downstairs is in front of the giant mirror, once they move that upstairs they can rent out the first floor for income. 🤣

Edited August 27, 2022 by GeeGolly

[Cinnabon]

4 minutes ago, Peanut6711 said:

Financially, they are so screwed with a new (and likely big) mortgage, medical bills, and 2 kids. But they clearly aren't smart enough to realize that yet. 

They bought their house at the wrong time. I read that over 70% of those who bought new homes during that time period now have regrets. 

[GeeGolly]

5 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

They bought their house at the wrong time. I read that over 70% of those who bought new homes during that time period now have regrets. 

Yup. That mini covid real estate bubble got a lot of folks in over their head. Beyond house poor.

[Heathen]

2 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Yup. That mini covid real estate bubble got a lot of folks in over their head. Beyond house poor.

It felt a little like 2008 again -- people buying houses who had no business buying houses. 

Topic: I wonder if she'll actually go for the five-day EEG, especially without insurance, or if it'll be quietly brushed aside. Same for all her "episodes." 

[Cinnabon]

1 minute ago, Heathen said:

It felt a little like 2008 again -- people buying houses who had no business buying houses. 

Topic: I wonder if she'll actually go for the five-day EEG, especially without insurance, or if it'll be quietly brushed aside. Same for all her "episodes." 

They have 2 young kids, both of whom have or have had health issues. If they chose to be uninsured now, they are truly deplorable.

[Salacious Kitty]

4 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Yup. That mini covid real estate bubble got a lot of folks in over their head. Beyond house poor.

Their only benefit is living in a low cost area. Their mortgage won't be that outrageous. I wonder what kind of down payment they had? 

That said, they're probably already underwater.

[Heathen]

Just now, Salacious Kitty said:

Their only benefit is living in a low cost area. Their mortgage won't be that outrageous. I wonder what kind of down payment they had? 

That said, they're probably already underwater.

It might not be that outrageous to normal people, but considering all their extras, they might well have screwed themselves. I can't see Carlin going without her manicures or Starbucks or trips here and there. They got a manicure for a toddler, for crying out loud! 

[Salacious Kitty]

I saw the video of Layla getting her "mani." Evan commented that it was only $5. 

[Cinnabon]

3 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I saw the video of Layla getting her "mani." Evan commented that it was only $5. 

I guess he just told us they didn’t bother to tip.   I am disgusted.

[BitterApple]

1 minute ago, Heathen said:

It might not be that outrageous to normal people, but considering all their extras, they might well have screwed themselves. I can't see Carlin going without her manicures or Starbucks or trips here and there. They got a manicure for a toddler, for crying out loud! 

Yeah they spend a crap ton of money. Lunch and dinner is always fast food or restaurant meals. Daily Starbucks for two. Carlin gets her hair colored, the weekly nail salon visit, gas for all the back and forth to Nashville, the Target runs (although I suspect they don't really buy anything, they just film themselves in the store, hoping Target will bite), date nights, vacations,etc. Then factor in mortgage, utilities, homeowner's and auto insurance, cell phones and whatever they're doing for health insurance. If they're miraculously debt-free, then they're most definitely blowing nearly every dollar that comes in.

[Heathen]

6 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I saw the video of Layla getting her "mani." Evan commented that it was only $5. 

Five dollars here, five dollars there adds up fast. I wonder what their yearly output at Starbucks is. 

[Peanut6711]

5 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

They bought their house at the wrong time. I read that over 70% of those who bought new homes during that time period now have regrets. 

Their house purchase at the time/market they bought in seems like another impulsive decision that wasn't thought out.  The market is starting to turn so if they would have just waited another year, they'd likely get a similar house for less. But buying when they did, means they won't be accruing any equity any time soon.  And if their finances really tank and they need to sell, they might have to take a loss.  Or face foreclosure if they can't make the payments now that Evan doesn't have steady full-time employment with benefits.