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Not that Molly deserved to die, but she was hardly an innocent victim as you say. She left her first husband for Amber, then left Amber for James. I did shake my head at Amber saying that she told James that he had broken up their family. But Amber broke up her own marriage, and Molly broke up hers, to be together. As the saying goes, the way you get 'em is the way you'll lose 'em. Molly seemed extremely immature. I have never understood the need to do You Tube videos (or whatever SM platform she was using), or understand why someone would want to watch them. But Molly parading around in her wedding dress (one of two) for her audience was OTT. Not to mention, as a 35 year old divorced woman with a special needs son, she was planning a Disney themed wedding? WTF? Hubby and I were wondering who the wedding invitations were sent out to on James' side? Did he intercept them, since of course anyone on his side would know he is already married. And did he really have three weddings/divorces before the age of 28 when he married his 4th wife? Seems unlikely. I don't think his daughter was to be in the wedding, I think Molly just wanted to have her there to get hair and makeup done. I would imagine the info of the daughter wanting to get hair and makeup done with a friend was relayed by James (or should I say made up by James) sine it seems that his daughter was at home with her mom, totally unaware that her dad was planning a wedding with another woman. I was also confused as to what happened to Molly's parents. She moved in with them after she left Amber which I guess was around 2011 since she was with James for 7 years. But when the brother talked about the balloon coming into his workplace, he made it sound like they had passed? Or maybe that was explained and I missed it. I did feel sorry for James' first or fourth wife, whichever she was. Naive yes, but at least she divorced him. I did say to hubby that any spouse who's significant other has a room that is off limits needs to check that room out. Stat.

Yep. Heather said in her first year that she did not want to do the show, that Terry wasn't happy (to paraphrase) until she agreed to do it. I assume that the reason they are back is because Terry no longer has Botched, and both really enjoy being in front of the camera. Heather is too old now for her acting career to go anywhere, so we are stuck with them. Heather looked much better (for Heather) with her hair down in her TH with her daughter. The ponytail does her no favours. It makes her look older, not younger. I liked Gina last year, but her sucking up to Heather is vomit inducing. The scene at the race track where Gina discussed Noella with Heather in front of the other couple was ridiculous. Either Gina and Heather have no sense of what is appropriate (highly likely) or the scene was producer driven (just as highly likely). Heather riding Terry is likely the most action he has had in awhile, judging by the look on his face.

Is this something we have seen in previews and I just missed it? If it is true, then I can put up with Noella to see Heather brought down a few pegs.

I wondered as in the pic of her with her daughter, she said her daughter was on spring break and joining them in Puerto Rico. Which made me think the kid was from another relationship and lived with the father. But then she was identified as Coco Bergener. But ya, Noella seems like a mess. very needy, and immature. So has to be a one and done, but why can't she be done now?

Has Noella even mentioned her daughter on the show? I googled and saw a pic of her with her daughter Coco (isn't that the nickname of one of the Dubrow spawn?) and her last name is Bergener as well. I do remember Noella talking in one episode about her miscarriages, and she mentioned two surrogates, so I wondered why there was only one kid with two surrogates? Guess the other kid is Coco, also by James? In any case I have no interest in "he said she said" regarding a howife that I do not know. I did see a post by James where he said his life with Noella was sex, drugs and rock and roll, and he has cleaned up his act. Guess the sex part includes the dungeon? In any case Noella's life seems like a mess, married or not. And that is saying a lot when her life is too messy for this show. Or just no one knows her, so how can we be invested in her woes? Big fail, Bravo. Big fail.

I am enjoying this season more than any other that I can recall. Kody is coming unhinged because his harem and spawn refuse to be directed by him any longer. Christine has had her fill, and no longer looks at Kody with adoring eyes. About time. Janelle has chosen her children over Kody, which must really gall him because she was quite clear in the early years that she preferred working and leaving the raising of her kids to Christine. Robyn, who played her cards in order to become the only legal wife, is now stuck with KoDouche 24/7. I don't think she ever wanted him 24/7 -who would? - she wanted him at her beck and call whenever she summoned him. Meri is my fav wife this season. I don't think she gives a flying f that Kody has rejected her, but she is playing the lovesick puppy to the hilt in order to earn those TLC dollars. Though I do think that Meri genuinely misses the rest of the fambly. That is what I have learned this season from The Learning Channel. That, and that Kody is scared shitless that with half of his wives and many of his kids rebelling, TLC will dump his sorry azz.

Just watched the last half of the episode where Robyn goes from a few guys that maybe wanted to date her, to they wanted to get serious about her, to they proposed to her. Not buying it, Robyn. And why would you date someone who was only going to be monogamous (let alone get to the point where they propose to you) if you knew you wanted to live plural? Makes no sense. What does make sense is that Robyn can no longer get rid of KoDouche when he gets on her nerves. And let's face it, he gets on everyone's nerves. Ours the most, as we are not and have never been in love with the POS. Regarding Kody adopting Robyn's kids, I thought that was debunked years ago. That it never happened, and what was shown on the show was just for the show and not real life. Also AFAIK, Robyn's kids were still seeing their bio dad after he and Robyn broke up, and Robyn and Kody married. Not sure if they still do, but why would he give up rights to his kids as their father, which he would have to do in order for Kody to adopt them? At least that is how it works where I live. I still shake my head though at the wives' view of what monogamous marriage is. For Janelle, she wants her independence, and to be able to go to bed alone with a good book. You can do that in a monogamous marriage, Janelle. So she chooses to be married to a jerk part time in a plural marriage, rather than find a decent guy who will let her be herself, in a monogamous marriage. SMH. However I will forever have respect for Janelle for finally speaking for most of us, and telling Kody to f**k off. Best scene ever.

At the time this was filmed- Sept-Oct-of 2020, the rules that Janelle was objecting to, had been dropped. They were suggested earlier in the pandemic (wiping mail, wiping groceries, changing clothes) but not at that time, so I have no problem with Janelle saying no to those rules. In addition, I don't know anyone at that time who was not working at their jobs. I am retired, but was able to meet with my book club socially distanced outside, and was even able to play pickleball indoors following certain protocols. I know the regulations changed here in Canada from province to province depending on numbers, and I believe the same thing happened from state to state. So I don't think Janelle was being unreasonable, and I think Kody and his chosen family were able to follow "the rules" because they have no other responsibilities. But they did allow a nanny and her husband to live outside the home, and come daily. And while Kody may claim to have changed his clothes often per the rules, he obviously didn't shower much, given his often greasy looking hair. So STFU Kody.

Gabriel has become my favourite Brown. I love how he pointed out that they didn't have to be afraid of having a job, but did have to be afraid of their mail. Lol. And he pretty much confirmed what I posted last week -that he is annoyed (understandably) that Kody has spent the last nine months with Robyn and her kids. Speaking of jobs, I guess Kody can follow all the rules, because the only job he has is filming this show. And he is angry because he sees the gravy train drying up with his family asserting their independence from King KoDouche. Did Janelle say that Gabe used to be close to Kody? I have been watching since the days when all the wives shared the one home in Utah (and pre Robyn) and I don't remember Kody ever being close to any of his sons. He has always treated them like competition. I have only watched half the episode so far, but just had to post how much I am enjoying Gabe's FU attitude.

What an asshole. I wonder if he is also worried that at some point his new daughter will see the naked pictures that he had posted of himself and ND's mother, all over social media? He certainly didn't think that his three daughters with Shannon needed protecting from that. STFU David.

I think it really galls KoDouche that Janelle is choosing her kids over him, because Janelle always made it clear in the early years that she was happy to go to work and leave the raising of her kids to Christine. I also remember Logan being a Mr Mom to his younger siblings. Interesting that Logan's name is never even mentioned any more -I wonder if that is at his insistence? I do agree though that Kody has no interest in the kids once they have fled - especially the boys. I also don't think that Gabriel really cares that he hasn't seen his father in months, but I do think he is likely peeved that Robyn's family is KoDouche's only priority. I had to laugh at Kody wondering if the reason Janelle doesn't care if he comes over is that he isn't romantic enough? I took that to mean that they don't have sex any longer which I think we have all assumed anyway. Given how bad Kody looks - sitting outside at Christine's, I swear i could see bugs crawling around in his greasy mop -who other than Robyn would want that anywhere them? And why bother changing clothes when you return home - as per "the rules" - if you never take a shower and wash your hair? Yuck.

Let's hope so. Just read an interview with Josh from September where he talks about how unhappy he is with the dog. I hope he is joking. Also saw a picture from Oct 2020 of Josh and Bobby with two little white dogs called Trouble and Jax. Have we seen those dogs? I only remember Tracy's dog Jake at Flagg's, but maybe missed them since the show makes a big deal of Josh taking Tracy's dog to his house.

I enjoyed the Josh and Josh show, mostly because of Bobby. And the fact that there is no Tracy. Bobby is such a gem. Altman typically didn't get it when both Bobby and Heather said they were more than just the spouses of Josh and Josh. Altman's reply? Behind every great man there is a great man or woman. Pretty much making it all about himself, and negating everything they had just said. He never changes. Have Josh and Bobby ever discussed children? Fredrick always wanted children, so it was no surprise when he and Derek had them. But I can't remember ever hearing J&B talk about kids. I got the impression when Heather was talking to her daughter who was whining about her brother, that Bobby was quite happy to be childless. Or maybe that was just me projecting my feelings onto him - lol. Is the dog they are showing the poor one that Flagg returned? I was annoyed when he complained that the dog took a dump - as he put it - on a $40,000 rug. First of all, accidents happen with new dogs. And if he took a dump, that means that you weren't taking him out to do his business often enough, Flagg. And finally the dog doesn't know -or care - that his pretentious owner paid $40,000 for a rug. I like Flagg, but that bothered me. If Josh returned a dog because it wasn't like Tracy's dog Jake, he should not have children. You can't return children if they don't have the personality characteristics that you prefer.

So Kody wants to kick Garrison out of Janelle's house because he is not adhering to Kody's rules, but didn't he just complain last week that Janelle was also not adhering to his rules by travelling? And he complains that his wives do not have any time for Meri, but he as her freakin' husband has no time for her. Despite the fact that she is all alone and actually wants to spend time with the POS. I am surprised that KoDouche didn't suggest that Garrison move in with Meri since Kody doesn't care if he sees either one. Why did Janelle not explain to Kody, rather than to us in a TH, that she has spent lots of time without Kody as one of 4 wives, so of course her kids would come first. Duh. I wonder if the reason Robyn has a nanny is that Kody is angling for a 5th wife? Though I think Robyn is the boss of Kody, and I don't think that will happen. At least until she gets tired of the manchild.

So sad that the season is over already! I really enjoyed the last two shows, there were some great pitches. Can't remember them now of course - need aemom's great recaps. 😃

I have never watched Botched, but when someone posted that it has not been renewed, it made perfect sense that this is now the vehicle for the Dubrows to continue to feed their narcissism. I came across an article where Heather said that her oldest kids will be on the show quite a bit, and that all of the kids are used to having cameras in the house because they are always filming something or other. Apparently Heather's oldest daughter has a podcast? Seems like the kids are following in their fame whore parents' footsteps. 🤮 There are a third of the number of posts for this episode than there were for the first one, so I wonder if that is any indication of how many viewers have already tuned out? I am very close as I do not find any of it entertaining. What. So. Ever. Dr Jen is a bore, and I have no interest in yet another divorce storyline for a newbie that I have no interest in. I must admit though that the scene of Heather reading her obnoxious text to Terry while he tries to get a word in, was pretty funny. The text, not so much. Hard to imagine that Heather has become even more full of herself. She is a failed actress who married for money. I have no reason not to believe that the Dubrows' house of cards will not come tumbling down, like so many others have. Heather's tag line is pretty funny too. Personally, in order for me to reach Heather's level, I would need a shovel, not a ladder.

Sorry, but I had very little sympathy for Rachael. She was a thirty three year old woman still living at home, and using the excuse that she is Italian, and Italian adults live at home until they get married Maybe several decades ago, hardly in 2018. And why is she hanging around students and treating them like friends? Does she not have any friends her own age, other teachers, etc? I thought the only truthful thing the mother said was that she didn't know if Rachael was more excited to be getting married, or excited about the 6 karat diamond ring. The mother was a piece of work. Yes, sure, her baby was in a car with a 17 year old, a kid half her age, at 2 in the morning, because she was helping him out. Sheesh. I said to hubby that Rachael may still have been alive if mommy dearest hadn't insisted that she not sign the prenup. Maybe she would have gotten married and still be here. ONOH, apparently she had been having a relationship with the teenager for three years, so maybe not. In any case I think the ex boyfriend dodged a bullet (no pun intended) - he could have ended up with Lisa as a MIL. In any case Racheal is the one who, as a teacher, decided to have a relationship with a student. There would have been much more said about it had she been a male teacher having sex with a female student. She didn't deserve to die, obviously, but as far as I can see she made some very bad choices, and was not the sweet innocent person her parents wanted her to be remembered as.

I didn't really understand why Dr Jen was looking down her nose at Noella because Noella doesn't have a job. Isn't Noella a SAHM? Dr Jen's husband is a SAHD. What is the difference? And while I don't think Noella is a great beauty, she is far better looking than Mr Jen. And likely has much better table manners. At least there was an Archie sighting and a Shane scene. Unpopular opinion I know, but I am one who has always liked Shane. Much more than I like Emily. Though I did love Emily continually telling Nicole that she was already sitting down when she was sitting down.

Is there a TV version of the Razzies? Because Terry and Heather's acting would certainly qualify for worst performance in a comedy. Sheesh. Terry was hilarious when he solemnly proclaimed how annoyed he was that the party was cancelled and all that food went to waste. You doofus, your wife is the one who cancelled the party. It isn't like something horrible happened, like someone ate a bow on a cake. OMFG. It appears that Heather has returned because she is a failed actress, so this is the best gig she can get? I did laugh at her "camera down" orders. Reminded me of Denise's "Bravo Bravo" when she wanted filming to stop. Actresses. Lol. I did find it interesting that only Terry and Heather said that Nicole dropped the lawsuit. Nicole never did say that, which makes me wonder if she did or not. After all, why sue because your lawyer talked you into it, only to drop it? Did he talk you into that as well, Nicole? Gina, Gina, Gina. I have liked you for the most part but you are the one who screwed up, not Shannon. I did laugh when her defense to Shannon was that she didn't know Heather 12 hours before, when she made the promise not to say anything. I know friendships on these shows are often fake, but Gina took it to a whole new level. I loved Heather proclaiming at her lunch with Gina and Emily that leopards do not change their spots. That should be Heather's tag line.

The TruReal guy was one of the worst pitchers I think I have seen on DD. And they have had some doozies, even just this season. Online wills in Canada already exist. Canadian Legal Wills is one online site, seems to be pretty much the same as Willful. And of course there have been kits around for making a will for ages. Not sure if someone wants to forgo using a lawyer than Willful isn't already duplicating available alternatives. The shoes wouldn't interest me, but I did think it was interesting that the pitcher said that older clients would not buy online, as I would think older clients would not really be her target market? If someone is retired, how often are they likely to want to wear heels anyway? Personally I never wear anything higher than a couple of inches, and even that is almost never. Lol. I did think they were ridiculously expensive though. Weren't the short boots over $500? For $500 I would want a name brand. But then I have never paid anywhere near that for boots or shoes.

I didn't really understand the plastic emergency vehicle. How would one know how safe it was if it was in an accident? For most emergency vehicles there are people sitting in the back- fire trucks, ambulances which carry both a paramedic and patient in the back, even police cars if they are transporting someone they have arrested. I was surprised than none of the dragons asked that question. I agree that the soup lady was lucky to get a deal. She is lucky Wes was on the panel. Though I generally like Wes I find him a bit all over the place with regards to some pitchers that he is rude to, and others that he maybe should be more leery of that he gives a pass to. Of course that is true of all dragons but Wes seems to exhibit it more, Maybe because he is new. Speaking of Wes, I never did hear back from the Basecamp Cards young lady, despite two emails and another indicating that I was waiting for an answer when I got an email reminding me that I had no completed the transaction. I am not impressed with the customer service, and would love to give feedback to Wes since the actual business owner doesn't see to care.

I didn't think Jasmine looked good either. I thought in particular that her hair looked limp and like it had a lot of split ends. Then I remembered that she is, or at least was, a hair dresser, which made it even stranger that it looked so bad. I remembered the hair dresser part as Kevin's mother was so rude to her about it. She basically said in so many words that her baby boy was a hero as a fire fighter, and she was a lowly hair dresser. I wondered how Kevin's subsequent hook ups through the franchise (including the one from the Winter Games) fared with Mama Wendt.

I thought that it was funny that Jasmine was the guest in the after show, and they referenced Mike and Chris (and another bachelor that I don't remember the name of) as they were on Jasmine's season, but left out Kevin who she actually ended up engaged to at the end of her season. I know they were asking her opinion in terms of the men on BIP Canada, but I thought it was funny since Kevin is there as the bartender. I found Kevin's mother to be a nightmare (and very rude to Jasmine) in her season, so I hope she is nicer to Astrid. Anyhoo congrats to the new parents!

Aw, I hope that doesn't mean that Tracy's dog no longer visits. That would be so sad as I doubt he gets much attention at the Tutor home. And hopefully the "awful" dog was adopted by owners who think it is wonderful. Many years ago I knew a couple who adopted a dog and it was a terrible fit as they could barely take care of themselves and their kid. The dog was acting out so they found a new home for it. As it happened I was working for a vet at the time, and what dog should come into the clinic one day but the same dog, with its new family. They absolutely loved it to pieces, and vice versa. Was so nice to see that he was not sentenced to a life with people who did not deserve him, or know how to give him the life he deserved. Incidentally, as a life long cat owner, all of my kitties except one were/are either strays or adopted from the SPCA. I always wonder how anyone could have given up the ones I adopted (or as I say, adopted me) as they have all been amazing kitties. But then I am thankful, as they also don't deserve them if they did not see what wonderful furbabies each and every one of them were.

I was hoping there might be a comment or two about last night's show. DD is getting its share of duds so far this season. The gaming platform guy was out to lunch, on top of being rude and condescending to the dragons. That is sure to get you a deal in the den. Sheesh. I also found him slimy. Which is why I couldn't understand why Wes was so hard on the Coinmiles guy. He should have heaped all that scorn on the gaming guy. I thought Wes was quite rude, so unless some things were edited out, I didn't get his attitude. Speaking of attitude, Manjit was full of it last night. And a lot aimed at her fellow dragons. Lots of eye rolling going on, which is her specialty. I did love that Arlene gave it right back to her when Manjit claimed that she was the only dragon that specialized in manufacturing. So glad that the hair care product guys went with Arlene, despite getting identical offers from Arlene and Manjit. That made the episode for me. I find Manjit to be insufferable most of the time.