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I believe there was close to a year between JJ and JY, and there was next to no gap between JY and GV. (Just looked before I hit post, and JJ last appeared in May 1999, JY showed up in February 2000. JY last appeared on 2/10/03, GV was onscreen 2/20/03.)

The only upside to a Hope return would be watching the tracks Liam laid down running from the love of his life, Steffy, to Hope.

When my channel guide's description the other day listed "Bill and Katie kiss" in the show's description, I figured something had to be coming up for them. If a married couple kissing is important enough to make the episode's description, their marriage is almost surely about to be tested.

Knowing Waffles, both Thomas and Wyatt panting after Ivy is going to make her suddenly so much more attractive to him, along with the eventual reveal that Steffy bet Wyatt about sleeping with Ivy.

I, mercifully, missed it, but I thought they did't actually do the deed, just made out a lot?

After Olivia knocks her lunkhead son upside the head with a lasagna pan?

So, our only hope is that, down the road, Steffy will be reduced to Liam's sounding board as he marries Hope's future namesake niece? (As long as it's not the Rayacole baby...)

Getting one out of three right is pretty good for this show lately.

I'm still bitter. Way to make the death of a legacy character count, show. Does anyone in the family even remember she ever existed at this point?

He truly is Sonny's son, now, isn't he? I don't get what the show is going for with these two. Do they really think Dante/Valerie is some long term, root-able couple? There's a way to write a pairing like this - where one or both are married, and they try their hardest to ignore their feelings, but this is not it. We're not seeing this overwhelming chemistry. We're not seeing this love that can't be denied. We're not seeing how Dante gets from point to point. He went from being devastated that he'd cheated on Lulu based on inaccurate assumptions, to being terrified she'd find out and he'd lose her, to "eh, screw her, it took more than five minutes for her to get over it, so I'm going to go screw her cousin in our apartment...again." And I never even get the impression that he particularly likes Valerie, as much as she's just constantly there, telling him how awesome he is, so why not screw her? So, so, gross.

Which makes her one of the most sensible people in town. Most people don't let a little murder or attempted murder get between them and a loved one for longer than a minute.

Bonus points if they let the actors write their thought bubbles. And I just got a little giddy at the hilarity that would ensue if they let BryDog write his own thought bubbles.

Exactly. I wouldn't be opposed to a happy ending if we saw it earned to some extent. But, we know we're going to get something shitty thrown together just to have an ending. I am sure KMc and JT will sell the hell out of it, though, so at least there's that.

My real hope for the two of them is that Robin leaves town without Patrick, because she's pissed at him, and he leaves town right after her to go try to win her back. I don't want an insta-reunion, because I don't feel he currently deserves it. And I don't think we'll really have enough time to see him earn it. I'd rather be left that he knows he messed up and he is the one who goes all in to chase her down and earn her trust back. I know, I know, they want to give Scrubs fans a happy ending, and I get that, but I hate when the ending feels slapped together just to have an ending. I think "smidge" might be too much. Maybe a quarter of a smidge. Maybe. Why do I feel like Dante's being trashed so that every guy on the show is a varying shade of gray and we can't bitch about the "hero" of the show being a fucking douchebag moobster?

I haven't been watching much lately anyway, but I think I'm just done now. I may tune in for the Scorpios next month, but that's it. Dante was the only decent male human being on this show regularly (I mean, there's Mac, but he's invisible). Now they've completely ruined the character. From day one, he's been all about Lulu. While sleeping with Valerie originally was shitty, there was at least some shaky build up to it. Now he's just going to engage in a full on relationship with her? While he's still married to her cousin? Fuck that shit. I'm done. There is NO way Dante would do this at all. They may as well just rename the character and give us a scrolling "Just so you know, Dante is dead now," and call it a day. Really, she could luck out and genetics will work in her favor that the kid takes after Dante. I have a cousin who has a similar skin tone to Valerie, and her husband is white. They have two babies. One looks exactly like her, and the other looks a lot like her, but with Daddy's skin. So, it can happen. She'd be taking a risk, definitely, especially if the kid came out looking exactly like Lulu.

I think he gained some of the weight back after Michelle started her healthy eating kick. That's how much some of those on the right need to be contrary to the First Family. Eating healthy is for the liberal Muslim lovers or something.

She should also loathe the asshole who couldn't figure out how to call 911 if you spotted him two numbers.

If there's one thing we're never in danger of, it's BryDog becoming humble.

There is no chance at all that Helena is actually dead. No chance. TC could not have had any fewer fucks to give during that bedside scene with "dead" Helena at the end. A sleepy toddler would have given a more energetic, emotional line reading. I had a really crappy night of sleep last night, and I have dark circles under my eyes on a good day (thanks, genetics!), so they were really noticeable this morning. I'd like to thank KeMo and the makeup department for those ginormous circles/bags under Sam's eyes today. They made mine look like no big deal. Seriously, is that intentional, to make it look like Sam is losing sleep over this whole mess, or had Kelly just not slept for a week and a half before filming those scenes? As for the cabin scenes, I'm pissed I didn't get my murder/suicide. Morgan's just useless. He couldn't take out Kiki or his beast of a mother? Useless.

I think Patrick is responsible for his own shit. Honestly, the thing I think would have made this story better is him being the one (as opposed to Liz) who found out. Patrick deciding to place the blame for his split with Robin on Jason's shoulders (and conveniently ignoring is own role in it), and deciding that it's "justice" for him to have Jason's wife and child would have been a more interesting story, I think. And when Jake was revealed alive, Patrick could have continued to reassure himself everything was as it's meant to be, because Jason is with Liz and their son (ignoring, again, what he's doing to keep him from Sam and his other son). It would be nice to see the guy have the "I broke down over the messed up state of my love life" break versus it always going to the woman.

God, I've been good. I don't ask for a lot. But, if you could grant me this one scripted murder/suicide, I'd be ever so grateful.

This is more what I meant. What Sam did doesn't justify what Liz is doing, but, as far as I'm concerned, Liz get to throw Jake's kidnapping and Sam's subsequent behavior in her face as much as she wants if Sam gets overly bitchy with her, from now to eternity. At minimum, she's entitled to at least one "well you should know what would drive a woman to let someone think their loved one is dead." I mean, at least Liz doesn't taunt Sam about Jason's death, and Liz certainly didn't enable Jason's death. What Liz is doing is shitty, no argument, but Sam still has her beat, IMO. And, yes, when no one else in town ever truly pays for their shit, then I'll be pissed if it's Liz who loses everything, and over fucking Jason. (I'm using "fucking" as an adjective, there, although I guess it fits either way.) If Sonny gets off essentially free and clear, with the added bonus of the mayor (or was it governor?) fawning over his "heroism" and Michael taking him back, then fuck Liz losing her job, friends, or kids. And, as I've said before, I'll be so pissed if Nik gets less blowback than Liz. Here Nik is going to likely end up "rewarded" with a romance with the woman he tried to kill. So, yeah, screw Liz getting publicly drawn and quartered as the holy hitman and his mob moll take her son.

I wish they would have broken the mold and made her the "good girl" character who is still actually interesting and not a sanctimonious bore. It is actually possible, show. There's a happy medium between Hope and Steffy, and Ivy was poised to be that, until they decided they needed to take her down several pegs (to prop up the Bratz doll). Agreed. And it definitely wasn't under Steffy's nose. Liam was Ivy's boyfriend. Steffy is the one who came back and tried to make a play for him under Ivy's nose. Twice. The fault in the Liam/Ivy marriage was entirely Liam's. Which brings me back to the first part of my post - Ivy was poised to be the interesting good girl back then, when she had the dignity to tell Liam the truth about her citizenship status so he could make his own decision. Why they needed to ruin that awesome character to leave her unable to resist the skeeviest man in L.A. is beyond me.

I still think Jason should be the one who handles Liz (not in his hit man "handling" method). He's the one who has a relationship with her (both his friendship with her as Jason Morgan and his current romantic relationship with her). He's the one whose trust she's betraying. And, as someone who remembers all of the Liz/Sam history, I have zero interest in seeing poor widdle Sam getting to vent her spleen at Liz. And Carly? Bitch, no. Back off, Cujo. If you had been involved with Jake and found out he was Jason, your ass absolutely would have kept it quiet because you were finally getting your dream. So you have zero room to talk, honey. Take all the seats.

Actually, my guess is that Thomas would be OK with it if Wyatt was still in the dark. He seems to get off on the idea of seducing another man's woman behind his back. So carrying on with her while Wyatt was none the wiser would probably appeal to his skeevy ass. (And he'd likely get bored and be over it if Ivy dumped Wyatt to be in a relationship with him). Of course, that goes against the "clear consent of all parties" part of it, I know.