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Oh, ick. Biology doesn't matter, she is Wiley's mom, full stop. That's a shitty thing to say to any adoptive parent.

I'd love some scenes of Deacon and Nick bonding over what a complete asshole Ridge is, as Deacon tells him all about what's been happening the past few months.

So, Steffy heads home, knowing Kelly is expecting Liam and is going to need some explanation for his current (and continued) absence. And she doesn't come up with a story, just looks all panicked and stricken that Kelly asks the obvious questions? Come on, you've been a schemer your entire adult life, and you couldn't come up with an easy "daddy had to go on a work trip at the last minute, we're not entirely sure when he's going to be back, but he loves you and told me to give you the biggest hug from him" kind of story? I mean, Liam is awake and seems pretty with it, so he should be able to fake a phone call or two "from New York" or wherever to keep up the pretense. "When you're ready." Oh, Pepe, Carter is always ready. It's good for you that you're getting your claim in now, because if he wasn't clear that you were throwing your hat in the ring, he might get distracted by some other woman when he goes out to pick up his lunch. As it is since you two haven't banged, he may still forget all about you if a willing woman presents herself before the next time he sees you. Oh, Deacon, no, do not encourage another round of the triangle of doom. L.A. is a pretty big place. Surely there is some man out there for Hope who isn't a waffle and has zero ties to the Forrester family.

https://deadline.com/2025/04/the-bold-and-the-beautiful-brings-back-jack-wagner-1236366014/ I'm going to lay odds that they keep him around long enough to incite the hobo's jealousy, so he dumps Beige on her ass and runs back to "My Logan."

He has resting evil face. The only way I could see him working would be if Michael was going to fully embrace the mob life and take over Sonny's business. CD was never going to be believable as a mob boss.

All of Noted Bigot Natalia's monologues about how she didn't want her son to fall into his father's business sure fall flat when you remember that she's very into the town's mob boss. You'd think that someone who got out of a marriage with one criminal wouldn't be at all eager to get involved with another one. Of course, learning a lesson is clearly not her strong suit, as she first trashed her relationship with her son, thanks to her homophobia, and the she proceeded to do the same thing to her relationship with her daughter. Funny how Kristina has spent, what, almost a full year, ranting and raving about how Ava needs to be brought to justice, but now that she's committed the crime, everyone has to worry about her family suffering any more if she was to be held accountable. Was she worried about how Avery would suffer if Ava was thrown in jail or dead? Because regardless of the fact that Kristina thinks Ava's a shitty mother, Avery clearly adores her mother and would be heartbroken to lose her. Even her freaking father has managed to keep reminding himself that Ava is too important to Avery for him to kill her. And who cares about Molly's pain if her father had died, and Molly's need to see justice served for his accident and injuries. I used to like Kristina and was mostly on her side during the surrogacy storyline, but they've ruined her just as fast as they ruined Sasha. I swear, there are like five people on this show I'd be able to stand spending more than 10 seconds around if they were real people.

Pepe LePew is truly everything she accuses Hope of being. She manipulated Carter over the business. She is flouncing around FC like she owns the joint, and throwing her two cents into things that have nothing to do with her role there. There's not even any reason for her to be there every day. She's an independent contractor, basically, who's been contracted with to create a fragrance. Unless FC has a perfume lab hidden up Carter's ass, why is she not out there somewhere else doing the thing they've paid her to do? And Carter, he's even more of a desperate horndog than Will was when he first started at FC. Forget all about the woman he was pledging his undying love to every day for months, there's another woman in his personal space right now. I was hoping that Bill knew about the Liam/Steffy kisses and would drop that little bomb on Finn during their conversation. Maybe a confused Liam will inadvertently let that slip. And enough telling us how Steffy is the biggest heroine in the history of time because she cleared the lowest possible "in case of emergency" bar and dialed 911 when she found Liam knocked out in a pool of blood. If Bill had come back for his keys, or Will had stopped by, or Katie had decided to drop in, they would have done exactly the same thing.

I was just relieved we didn't get any "cha cha cha." I was bracing myself for it.

Good Lord, Pepe LePew is a sanctimonious bitch. Honey, you signed on to try to bang a dude you'd never met to get the company back, so let's dial back the judgement on anyone else's honor. And Ridge is such a raging asshole. "You sound like Brooke." Really? That's how you talk about your "Logan"? And his repeated insistence that "Hope doesn't think she did anything wrong," when he hasn't even spoken to her? I think I'm shipping Pepe and the Hobo. It would just be so delicious when you think of everyone else's reactions. Bonus points if they sneak around behind Carter and Taylor's backs and get busted in front of Carter, Taylor, Brooke, and Steffy. All four of them would deserve every second of that pain. Deacon was great. I cracked up at the "ouch." And, as much as I normally hate when the word whore gets tossed around (unless people want to finally start calling Ridge a whore), I would not have been too put out if he'd said "oh, so this must be your whore," when he figured out who Pepe was. So, I can get not thinking to call anyone the second Liam got to the ER and all, but the man had brain surgery, which, last I checked, is not a short procedure. She had all that time to sit and wait for that to be done, and she couldn't be bothered to call Bill, Wyatt, Finn, or Hope? Yeah, I know she hates Hope, but Liam is the father of Hope's daughter, too, and the show has always portrayed the two of them as willing to set their shit aside when it comes to the kids. And she knows that Finn was scheduled to work, and she and Liam were supposed to be taking care of Kelly, and she couldn't take two seconds to let him know what was going on? Even when he had apparently been calling and texting her to find out where she was? So even if it wasn't at the front of her mind, his attempts to reach out should have reminded her. She didn't even call her mommy dearest to come support her and tell her how awesome she is? I know Grace is taking up some of that slack, but she can't just spend the rest of her shift kissing Steffy's ass. And none of the hospital staff who have seen Steffy there have recognized her enough to mention to Finn (or Li) that they saw her there? And we all know Steffy would flip her shit if one of her loved ones was in the hospital and nobody called her to let her know. I had been thinking Liam would wake up thinking he was still with Steffy, but I think it would be hilarious if it comes out that he thinks he's still married to Hope. Could you imagine how much Steffy's face will crack if, tomorrow, he says "did you call Hope? She must be so worried wondering where I am, and why I haven't made it home yet"? I couldn't really tell today, though, what they were going for with Liam. Like, he knows who he is, and he asked about Kelly, but he also asked "where's here?" when he's very obviously in a hospital bed, and he asked what a brain bleed is, which I'd think most people have heard of. Can we at least hope that this storyline somehow leads to Finn finding out about those kisses his wife never told him about? Because I would love to see him finally have his illusions about his wife visibly shatter, and him finally get really angry at her.

They'll have even less use for Michael if the obvious happens, and Sasha and Jason fall in love. They're not going to put Michael in a triangle opposite Jason.

Does the show think that it wasn't super easy to figure out that Joss was being tested? Like that reveal was going to be a big shocking moment? Silly of me to assume that the show understood the importance of getting JJ back and being able to reunite Lucky & Liz. We get his declaration of lifelong love and then we don't see what happens when she wakes up right after that? And now their reunion is a sub plot to Kristina spiraling out of control and the Ava/Sonny feud? (Semi-related note, I don't want to see Ava and Sonny as a romantic pair, but they're far better, imo, when they're friends, or at least friendly, than they are at war with each other. They both just always come off as unhinged when they're feuding, and now Kristina is added into the mix even more unhinged.) Oh, and I swear, if they have Lucky somehow talked into keeping it quiet for Kristina, when Liz was in that car... I kind of don't get Jason's over the top concern about Carly being with Jack. Yeah, I can get some base level of concern, because she was poisoned while with him. But, when we had that whole scene of Jason listening in as Jack confronted Valentin, and seemed ready to kill him because he hurt Carly, I figured there was going to be some level of respect that Jack was that protective and vengeful for her. Sure, Brennan has enemies, but so do Sonny and Jason, as evidenced by the fact that Carly's son is in Germany recovering from his latest stint as collateral damage. And I hate to be in Carly's corner, but I was with her in their argument. She's a 50-something grandmother who has lived among the mob for decades and survived. She can make her own damn romantic decisions. You know, it might be kind of interesting to see Carly end up calling him out for being so controlling once the whole Michael is Sasha's baby daddy secret comes out. He's out there making decisions for everybody. And please, show, stop with the whole "Michael could lose custody of his kids if it comes out he got Sasha pregnant." That's not a thing. I'll give the show an ounce of credit, though, for resisting the urge to also have Willow pregnant. I didn't think they'd be able to resist that who's the daddy storyline or the opportunity to have Michael fathering babies with two women at the same time. I admittedly zone out during all of Drew's evil plotting and all, so maybe it's been explained and I missed it, but what is his investment in whether Kai gets that specific surgery or not? It just seems like a weird little add-on to all of his other bullshit.

This show is really committed to the whole "the takeover was all Hope manipulating poor, naive Carter" narrative, aren't they? When Brooke pointed out to Ridge that they accepted Carter back, he got all indignant, saying Hope and Carter aren't the same. No, Ridge, they aren't, because the takeover was Carter's fucking idea, and he executed it. If Brooke was remotely serious about advocating for Hope, she'd fucking point that out. But, of course, she can't, because she also bought fully into the Forresters' narrative about her daughter, and heaven forbid she actually truly stand up for her in Ridge's face. Did I hear mention of Liam's blood type? I've been watching soaps long enough to know that we're going to get a paternity storyline when they mention someone's blood type. That could go two ways - Kelly isn't really Liam's, or Liam isn't really Bill's. And would it be too much to ask that we get Wyatt back in town while his brother is suffering serious medical crisis? Kelly is definitely Steffy's kid with all of that "I love when me, mommy and daddy are together as a family" talk. Of course, when that's about 50 percent of what her mother talks about with her own parents all the time, it's no wonder Kelly is saying the same shit. Next, she'll be telling Finn "you're not allowed to see Sheila or Luna!" Also, I get that she and Liam are co-parenting and all, but I love how Finn is not allowed to speak to Sheila, Luna, or Hope, but Steffy can have special family dates with the guy who kissed her (and she still hasn't told Finn about that). Hey, Finn, you might want to pay real close attention to your owner's rants about Brooke, because you are going to become Brooke. That preview of Deacon attacking Carter, be still my heart. But, seriously, Deacon, it would be so much better if you did that shit to Ridge. And I laughed at the preview of Beige wandering into Ridge's office, only to find lingerie clad Brooke there. I'm honestly surprised she didn't show up in today's episode when Brooke and Ridge were alone in the office. Were her spidey senses not working today? Did Steffy fail to call and alert her that she's left the office, and Ridge is unattended?

Yeah, I'll be shocked if Liam doesn't have amnesia and think he's with Steffy. I rewound to listen to Deacon talk about beating up Ridge a second time. But how is it going to work with her living next to him and Sheila, when she has a child? The only thing I can think of as to what they're doing with Bill is that his conversations with Luna have brought up some specific really bad incident from his childhood that he had blocked out. Something that did not come up in his commiseration sessions with her. Liam mentioning not knowing anything about Bill's childhood today made me think that must be where they're going with this. And he doesn't want to tell anyone about whatever it is, so he's acting like an ass instead, because he doesn't want to share that to defend himself. High five to him for calling Liam a waffler, though. Especially since Taylor would love to have a reason to push Steffy away from Finn now. And since Liam was the subject of the proxy war she and Brooke could fight for their daughters, Taylor would look at Liam waking up thinking he was with Steffy as a victory. Brooke doesn't choose herself as much as she chooses Ridge. Wait, Steffy hates Hope? But Carter assured Hope that Steffy merely hated what the two of them had done.

Finally, we see Hope and Deacon together. That scene has been needed ever since Steffy fired her. It would have been hilarious if Luna would have called the cops to accuse Electra of assaulting her. I still really do not get what the show is going for with Bill. Brooke pretending that she's going to hold Ridge to any standard just because she didn't agree with Carter and Hope's takeover plan is hilariously not self aware. She wouldn't dare hold her hobo to any standard, because she just pathetically, desperately wants him, and she knows that she can't put up any opposition to him if she's ever going to get a shot at getting him back.

I was thinking the same thing. I did laugh, though, at Steffy's "you'll never get away with this!" Um, yeah, actually, she did.

Finn has the shittiest in-laws. They love to remind him how terrible his bio mother and daughter are. It's like the family past time. And, no, Taylor, saying "no offense" doesn't negate the offense. Also, Taylor, have you heard of knocking? Your daughter just got done telling her husband, again, that he's not allowed to have any relationship with Sheila or Luna, so, of course, they were about to have sex. That's her second favorite form of foreplay, right behind talking about you and her father banging.

It's adorable that Deacon believes Sheila is just going to stay away from Luna. When did he become so naive? And, again, through his whole rant about her, I was just saying to my TV "look who you're married to." Then we had Steffy telling Steffy's Husband how they're going to get through the discovery that Luna is his daughter together. You know, as long as he listens to her, obeys her rules, and doesn't have a single thought or feeling without her express written consent. And now that they're doing Steffy/Liam/Hope, The Sequel, with Luna/Will/Electra, they have to go over the top with Electra not being ready for sex yet. Now she can't even kiss Will, and has to obviously snub him when he tries to kiss her? Heaven forbid we get any kind of nuance to the story. How long until Electra has her own line of purity rings at FC? And we'll see Will wearing one of them as he sneaks around banging Luna, of course.

Is this not what we already saw on Friday's episode? How is either line a spoiler? Uh-oh, Steffy's Husband is trying to have his own thoughts and feelings. The princess will not tolerate this level of disobedience. Will Brooke or Carter be bothered to take a pause from licking ridge's ass to notice? Electra, have you not already learned a lesson about poking the crazy? I'm guessing Hope is about to start working at the restaurant. So, Finn can't even think about his daughter or biological mother, is forbidden from so much as uttering their names, and he's already been properly disciplined for daring to be friends with Hope, but Steffy gets to get involved in Liam's family issues and go confront the guy who got Finn's dangerous daughter out of prison? And Liam and Bill are both men she's cheated with in the past, but it's totally fine for her to be all up in their lives?

This is what I was thinking, too. She needs to fix herself first. She needs to be done with Ridge and really grasp why she should be done with him, and what a toxic asshole he is. And then she needs to apologize to Hope not just for this, but for a lifetime of dealing with the fallout of her mother chasing her "destiny." And her being done with him has to be after the next time he tries to get back together with her. It's easy to be done with him when he says he's committed to Taylor and not coming back. She needs to reject him, fully, and completely. And when she does it, she needs to unload on him for all the shit he's pulled. She should have been done with him during Taylor's last return, even before the CPS call shenanigans. He knew his kids were trying to get him back with their mother, and he still went to those nightly "family dinners" that his wife wasn't invited to, and he let the kids talk about how great it is to have their family back together while Taylor hung all over him. And that was all openly in front of his wife's sister (and some nights, in front of Hope, too). Nobody, with an ounce of self-respect, would put up with that shit. But Brooke, did. She let him go spend every evening with his "real family," and then come home to her for sex. As for yesterday's show... Deacon, I love you, really, I do. But, do you listen to the shit you're saying? Other than the victims being people you cared about, there is nothing you were saying about Luna that doesn't apply at least double to your wife. (And, actually, one of her more recent crimes was against someone you care about - when she slipped Brooke booze). You accept the shit she's done because you love her (although the only thing you can cite when saying how much you love her is how good the sex is), but you can't see how she is able to accept the shit Luna's done because she's her granddaughter? When you know how desperate she has been to have some connection to her son and grandson, do you really think she's going to look at a granddaughter, ready and willing to be a part of her life, and not jump at the chance? I have never liked Sheila, but I feel like I'm all in on the Sheila/Luna grandma/granddaughter duo. Get out there and start fucking some shit up, you psychos. It's really too bad that Steffy doesn't want to form a relationship with her stepdaughter, because they have a lot in common. Luna is taking a page directly from Steffy's book here. Lusting after one of Bill's sons, finding out that his girlfriend isn't ready to have sex yet, and offering up her body to him? I'm assuming from the previews that he turns her down and tells Electra about it right away, hence that confrontation scene, but I'd bet it won't be long before he starts secretly liking the attention and doesn't discourage her from continuing to offer. Also, Will and Electra are at the "I love you" stage already? I'm old enough to remember when soaps built up to that shit with their young couples, and not only did we not see any buildup outside of him saving her from Remy, but the first declarations seem to have happened off screen. Heaven forbid they cut some of the endless scenes of Everybody Loves Steffy to show development on any storyline that doesn't have to do with her.

I'm disgusted that this is the episode this show thinks is honoring women. Yes, let's see the two threads they had running through the episode. On one hand, we had a mother so desperate for a waffling asshole that she's tearing into her daughter - the same daughter that asshole helped raise and used to consider one of his own and who he also recently called a whore and a bitch - because that asshole has waffled over to his other option. On the other hand, we had two mean girls sitting around being catty bitches about their romantic rivals while patting themselves on the back for being perfect. What a way to celebrate women, right? I wish Hope hadn't hugged Brooke at the end there. Is that supposed to make us forget everything else that happened in this episode and say "yay! Women!"? Because, no. Hope continued to be the only truth teller on this damn show. I loved her repeatedly pointing out to Brooke that, once again, her "destiny" isn't there, because he jumps right over to another woman every time he gets even a little irritated with Brooke. Hope has been repeatedly defending Brooke to the hobo and his bitchass daughter. And she does it earnestly and passionately. Brooke can barely muster up an apologetic "oh come on, can't we all just get along" type response when those two shit all over Hope. One time she told Ridge off for using that kind of language about Hope. One time. But she never says a fucking word to Steffy. She keeps right on thinking that, if she just kisses Steffy's ass enough, everything will be fine. And she keeps lecturing Hope about how she has to do the same. And where has that gotten you, Brooke? Alone. Once again, Ridge did the thing he promised you he wasn't going to do. He went off half cocked when he believed the worst about you, and jumped right into Taylor's bed without bothering to check in with you to see if his first impression was accurate. And Steffy loved every second of it. Because no matter what you do, you will always be evil Logan trash to her. Oh, and one more thing, those two cackling tweens really made a caricature of who Stephanie was, didn't they? The main thing she taught Steffy was to watch out for the Logans? Her relationship with Brooke was way more nuanced and complicated than Steffy's petty bitchiness. And she had no beef with Brooke's kids from what I can remember. Now that the coup is over, the show has remembered that Donna exists. Couldn't have her around to represent the stuck in the middle point of view while that was going on, could they? How many blazer and shorts suits does Steffy own? ETA, because I forgot this part - I laughed when Taylor went on about how every time Ridge walks into the room, she feels like a giddy teenager. Oh, girl, I've got some bad news for you, because he? Does not feel like that when you walk into a room. Not even close. I'd be embarrassed for you if I didn't think that you deserve the pain that's eventually coming your way when you realize that he doesn't want you once again.

If Brooke really wants the Hobo back for some insane reason, here's all she had to do: "I'm so glad that you and Eric have the company back. That's all I wanted from the start of all of this. I know you've decided to be with Taylor now, and maybe you two are good for each other. I have some unfinished business with Bill, and now that my sister is fully done with him, and you and I are maturing into different directions, I think it's time I give that a real chance." She wouldn't have even made it out of the FC parking lot before he dumped the Beige. Beige has zero self-respect. For all of her professed security in her relationship with the Hobo, she broke land speed records running over to his office when Steffy said she thought Brooke might be making a pitch to get him back. She knows damn well he prefers Brooke, but she's just pathetic and desperate enough to not care. The look on his face while they were hugging after Brooke left was not a man in love with the woman in his arms. I hope the two of them live miserably ever after. How lightning didn't strike Steffy when she was going on about how Hope has no self-awareness... Hope served up more truth to Carter. Her mother could really learn a thing or two from her. Of course, Carter can't hear any truth, because he thinks he's the hero in everything. He was Hope's hero, and now he's the hero for the trio of assholes and Pepe LePew. When he was going on about how Hope only wanted him because he was her knight in shining armor, I was yelling at my TV "because that's what you pushed yourself as." He did a full court press on her about how he was there to stand up for her, and how he was going to fight for her and her line. So, excuse the fuck out of Hope for believing you when you told her who you were. And "I gave my heart to you"? Yeah, because it was her turn. You've given your heart to damn near every woman in town. And, yes, you're right, Carter, the men in her life have disappointed her. And you played on that and tried to convince her that you weren't like that. You love bombed her when you knew she was vulnerable, but you ultimately let her down when you were faced with choosing between her and Ridge. And, in a few months or so, when you find out that Pepe was really the one who was manipulating you, you'll bleat to her about how you gave her your heart, too. Ugh, Steffy's Husband was in full force today. He's a lot like Liam, actually, in that he is so much more interesting away from his romantic pairing than he ever is in it. Can we get on with ending that marriage already?

Lord, Brooke. the second hand embarrassment you're giving me, groveling to that asshole. And then his smug smile when Taylor came in, like "ah, yes, now we're back to what really matters - my harem fighting over me." Let the dishrag have him, Brooke. Grab some of the spine your daughter has found and tear him a new one on your way out the door. And what planet does Carter live on? When Hope says Steffy hates her, he corrects her with "she hates what we did." Bitch, what? Did you not stand in that CEO office after Hope was fired the first time and listen to her talk about Hope? Hear her say that she'd happily take a loss in profits to no longer have to look at Hope in the office? That was before "what we did," asshole. And if Steffy's only problem is the takeover, then why are you still employed there? I love that Hope brought up that this was all Carter's plan. She had no knowledge of those papers or how they worked. He came to her and told her that he found a solution. I wish she would have torn into him over that particular detail in front of everyone, though. But, hey, at least she's got way more backbone with a shitty man than her mother. I so badly want Hope to find out about Bitchy and Pepe's big plan. Then she can keep that information to herself until Carter proposes to Pepe (which probably won't take too long, because that man is desperate for a woman, any woman), and present the information as her engagement gift to the happy couple. And can we finally see Deacon learn about all this shit that's gone down? I'd love to see Deacon and Sheila plotting to fuck up Ridge's world. I mean, I'd really love to see Deacon lay him out for speaking to and about his daughter like that, but we all know Ridge would dedicate his life to having Deacon locked up for years for daring to touch him. So, let him fuck with him in other ways. Also, no more pizza for any of those assholes.

She'll probably be telling her "you need a fun day. I know it was so hard for you to have to face Hope after all she's done to you. You are so brave and such a smart businesswoman."

I agree. My son and I both have very fine hair that is dark brown. It looks dirty very easily, no matter how clean it is. It's one of the reasons I get highlights regularly, because the lighter color doesn't look dirty like that. My son has long hair, and even when it's freshly cleaned, it looks a lot like JJ's.

🤮 Oh, good, Steffy gets a win for once. Heaven knows the poor dear never wins. 🙄 Oh, Hope, no. Don't struggle to look past it. Look right at it and kick that man to the curb. This seems like a real yawn-fest of an episode. But I do hope Pepe is successful. Let her have him. So, the "impactful" episode that's supposed to honor Women's History Month is one that features a woman basically kicking her daughter while she's down, because she's pissed that she couldn't get her hobo back? Yes, please, tune in for an extra heaping helping of misogyny to honor women! But, don't worry, from spoiler pictures I've seen, while Brooke is lashing out at her daughter, we'll also see Beige and her bitchass daughter bonding and acting like two middle school girls having a slumber party. If Sheila was normal, I'd say that Deacon surprises her by being supportive, since she knows he hates Luna. But, since Sheila is usually delusional and always expects things to go how she wants them, I'm guessing her surprise will be that Deacon doesn't immediately embrace the woman who killed his two friends just because he now knows she shares DNA with his wife.