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As someone who didn't see the whole Sugar storyline, I have to ask, would she really go along with that for Sheila, and, if so, why? Is Sugar basically the female version of Mike, with some weird devotion to Sheila that pushes her to do whatever Sheila wants?

Deacon had a quick line in there about Finn having arranged for him to get in and see her. Come on, Deacon, don't you want one more peek at that four toed foot for the road? Pull back the sheet! I can kind of buy that, if that's not Sheila, the toes might not tip off anyone in the morgue, since I doubt she had any official medical records showing it. Yes, people know, but if it's not in her medical records, it might just skate by since having 10 toes isn't remarkable ordinarily. So, if nobody who knows about her toe thinks to ask about it or check the autopsy, then it will go unnoticed. Liam is basically the same as Thomas now. He even went into that low, slow soothing tone for a short moment there while he was assuring Steffy that he'd always be there. I can get why Sheila is beyond a sore spot for Li and all, but does nobody understand that the more they keep throwing "bitch deserved to die!!!" at Finn, the more messed up he's going to be over all of this, and the longer it's going to take for him to reconcile it all for himself?

I'm assuming it's going to come back up now that we've got Hope being the only person sympathizing with Finn and she and Thomas will naturally be on opposite sides of the Finn/Steffy conflict that's building up. I'm guessing that the two of them will become closer, so he'll start worrying more about her being with Thomas, especially if he's no longer with Steffy, so he won't feel a need to listen to her "you have to believe my brother is OK" crap. And since Hope doesn't have the baggage with him that she has with her waffling ex, she might be more inclined to listen to Finn.

"I've never seen anyone work so hard to change." Well, we know where Hope gets it, don't we? Speaking of Hope, I thought she was a good friend to Finn today. He needs someone to listen to him without judgement, and she's pretty much as close to a neutral party as he's going to get, even with her issues with Sheila. I admit, I laughed at Finn not being able to kiss Steffy. Oh, Finn, Liam is going to hightail it over there, and he'll lay his naked ass right on that bloodstain and let your wife ride him. Everything we've seen on screen tells us that it will be subpar sex, but, well, clearly Steffy has never had a problem with his, um, limitations. Ridge, again, you can be technically right about something but still be an entire bag of dicks. Stop telling people who cared about Sheila that she was an animal who deserved to be put down, will ya'?

This week's spoilers. I honestly forgot about RJ/Luna/Xende until I saw them mentioned on Friday's spoilers. I'm still thinking we somehow end up with a Zende/Poppy one night stand (or more).

It's pretty soap opera standard to "kill" a villain for a while once they've outstayed their welcome or if it will facilitate more story. Then, eventually, they bring them back from the dead down the road when they've got a new story idea for them. So my guess is that Sheila isn't really dead, but she is gone for the foreseeable future. So, KB is saying goodbye to Sheila, but she may say hello to her at some point either here or on Y&R.

Agreed. Anyone in town who is aware of all of her antics should immediately be like "check the damn toes. Make sure it's her." But, my guess is that Deacon is going to look at her feet out of some affection, wanting to see her missing toe one more time, and he'll see that there's no toe missing. But he'll keep quiet and let her be on the run.

I'm assuming Sugar (or some new doppelganger) was right next to her, offscreen, and Sheila said that for her benefit. Just throwing a completely wild guess out there, Sheila probably told Sugar some version of a plan where Sugar goes in first and, naturally, all of Steffy's focus will be on her. Then, Sheila sneaks in during their confrontation and kills Steffy. And that very well may have been one of her backup plans. Meanwhile, in reality, Sheila sat outside and watched, waiting to see how the confrontation would go. Either Steffy takes Sugar out, and Sheila can disappear for a while to regroup and come up with her next plan (Mrs. Doubtfire, if I had to guess), or Sheila ends up having to go in and kill Steffy, and then she'd leave Sugar (dead or alive) to take the fall. That would also give her the time to get away, regroup, and put her next plan into action.

I can give Finn a little bit of a grace period to work through his confusing feelings. He is, at least, saying that he knows Steffy had to do it. But, he needs to get past the "but she was my mommy" crap soon. Yes, she birthed you. But, she also had zero interest in popping into your life until she saw a chance to get one over on the Forresters, and, oh yeah, she shot you and your wife and left you for dead. Then she held you hostage and almost killed your real mother. But, I can totally get him not wanting to be there, with the big old blood stain on the floor, while the police have Steffy repeat the story over and over. Speaking of... Once Ridge and Lurch came back and told everyone the whole story, shouldn't Carter have insisted that either he or another lawyer contact the police on Steffy's behalf to arrange for her to sit, with her lawyer, for an interview the next day instead of just letting her face the police on her own for questioning that night, while she's still reeling from what happened? I'm still thinking Deacon is going to go to the morgue to see Sheila's body, and he's going to do a toe count and keep quiet when it comes to 10.

I think we can all call time of death on that marriage. Ridge and Thomas need to understand the concept that, while you can technically be right, you can also be an entire bag of dicks. See: their behavior at Steffy & Finn's house. The two of them made things worse. Let's see how Hope and Lurch handle being on opposite sides of this issue, because we know they're going to be. I'd be surprised if CA/Los Angeles has a stand your ground law (and I absolutely should google, but I'm tired), but regardless of whether one exists in your city/state, I can't imagine that anyone wouldn't have a case of self defense when they stab someone who has broken into their home and is lunging at them. Especially when that person has shot them before. Since Sheila was not walking away at any point, that part of any law isn't relevant to this storyline. I vaguely remember reading about this storyline in SOD when it was happening. Whatever happened to that kid? Are we just supposed to pretend he never existed? Dropped into the same "never speak of it again" box as Ridge not being Eric's bio kid?

Especially given their history and given that Sheila was told, by both Steffy and Finn, more than once, to stay away from their home. This was not some poor inoocent being stumbling into a random home to get in from the storm. This is someone who already shot both residents of that home. Steffy annoys me mroe days than not, but she had every right in the world to drive a knife into that psycho's heart. I can see Finn having mixed emotions, but I can't cut him a break for not being concerned about what his wife has been through. I totally understood him during his conversation with Hope when he said he wishes Steffy wouldn't seek Sheila out for confrontations. And I can even see his whole "I'm a doctor, I save lives" apprehension about anyone saying things are better if someone is dead. But, she came into their home. He's told her to stay away. He knows how dangerous she is, even with his mixed "but she birthed me" feelings. He knows she wasn't there, right after being in a physical fight with Steffy, for anything other than vengeance. Hell, he even told Hope that he didn't like Steffy seeking her out like that because it makes Steffy unsafe.

Something just occurred to me on that count. I feel like somebody (either Finn or Deacon) is going to go to the morgue to see the body, see that she has all ten toes, and they're going to keep it quiet. Deacon would be the more likely suspect there. Things were starting to get too complicated for him. You could see that the things Liam and Hope said to him, along with finding Sheila strangling Steffy, and then Sheila's vengeful rant. He cares about her, but he might feel like knowing she's alive and out there somewhere, safe because everyone believes she's dead, but being out of that relationship so he can be close to Hope and her kids again might be the best case scenario for him. (And since she's not present to seduce him, he can be a little more clearheaded about it being best for him to be out of that relationship).

Hold on, so, Liam was so worried that they didn't know where Sheila is, and that she could be stalking Steffy, and, instead of going to Steffy's house, or even just calling her, he hunkered down and ordered a fucking pizza? What a hero! I was half expecting the paramedics to be revealed to be Sheila and Mike in disguise. Hope and Finn have a nice chemistry.

It absolutely shouldn't matter, you're right. But soap opera law is fucked up. It'll somehow matter. If she doesn't end up going through legal hell, she will definitely lose Finn over it. Which would still fit Sheila's needs quite well.

I think so, too. Sheila was the one who started the conversation on the "you want me dead" train. Steffy had initially just said something about Sheila needing to be locked up in prison until she dies. Sheila goaded her into saying that she wouldn't feel safe until she's dead. It's not at all like Sheila that she was just contentedly living with Deacon, working at the restaurant, and not trying to involve herself in Finn's life. So, it makes sense that she's been meeting with someone to plot this and turn the tables on Steffy, making her be the one who has to go to prison.

Oh, crap, that's a good point. I forgot about that whole "meeting with someone from her past" thing. Why that wasn't more alarming to Deacon is beyond me. Who from her past would be remotely healthy for her to be reconnecting with?

I have never liked Steffy more. Finn's conversation with Hope was better than I feared it would be. I really thought he was going to be floating back to that wishy washy "but she's my mommy" thing. I was relieved to see that he was more upset about the possibility of Sheila going after Steffy again than he was upset at her on his mommy's behalf. And I can accept that a doctor would have issues with the concept of saying it's best for anyone to be dead. And if the show is working towards Hope/Finn, I feel much better about that prospect with Sheila being dead. This. All of his big talk about how only he can protect Steffy and the kids, and when he actually believes she's in danger, he's sitting there debating it with Deacon instead of rushing over there. Probably wanted Deacon to go with him so he wouldn't have to face off with Sheila on his own. At least Finn didn't hesitate to jump in front of an actual bullet for Steffy.

I haven't watched today's show yet, but I believe she is sincerely (for now) dead, because: Of course, we all know she's not permanently dead, because there is no way Bell will be able to resist bringing her back at some point down the road. Maybe when they SORAS Hayes. Oh, and I forgot to put this into my bitching about Sheila last week. All of her "all I want is a relationship with my son and grandson, and Steffy is stopping me" bullshit? Bitch, you did not show up in his life until the day you knew he was marrying Steffy. Take every single seat, because what you really wanted was to use him as a tool to worm your way into the Forrester family. You fucking revelled in walking into Eric's living room on his brand new grandson-in-law's arm, introducing yourself as his biological mother. If it was just about having a relationship with him, you would have popped into his life way before that point.

And, in the end, Wyatt rides back into town and saves both of them.

Especially since the last time she went charging over to confront Sheila by herself, she and Finn ended up shot and left for dead in an alley.

Those are the scenes my brain immediately superimposed over the flashbacks they were showing the other day. Along with Steffy riding Bill like a stallion.

When did we see him do all the work and effort? We got one therapy scene that seemed to be run by his mommy instead of the therapist he was seeing. Then, Mommy kept ambushing Steffy by showing up with him at her house until she gave in and accepted him back into her life. That led to the two of them tag teaming to repeatedly insist that he was all better and a different man now. Then Steffy told Hope she had to take him back on to HFTF or the line was going to get shut down. I just can't see how any of that was him doing the work. He sat behind his mommy and his sister and let them force him back into everyone's lives. And, sure, he's mostly fine right now, but it's because he's mostly getting what he wants. He got his job back, and Hope is in his bed. But, he's not completely changed, because he refuses to accept Hope's request that he give her time and not pressure her about his proposal. Hell, at least Sheila saved a drowning kid. Thomas has had absolutely zero in the way of redeeming moments since his last evil antics (which came after he was also supposed to be a changed man).

Sheila really manipulated that whole "Steffy wants me dead" thing, didn't she? Steffy said she belongs in prison until she dies, and then Sheila was the one who jumped on that and needled Steffy into saying that her family won't be safe until she's dead. Then, Sheila turned that around and made it sound, to Finn and Deacon, like Steffy just voluntarily said she wants her dead. And Steffy just accepted that mantle. She didn't correct Finn when they got home and tell him how Sheila led her to say it. I just had to laugh at Hope mockingly relaying Sheila's "I've changed. I'm a different person now" bullshit to the man who has been laying the same bullshit on her. And neither one of them seems to even remotely grasp the irony. I feel like the writers have changed their minds multiple times on where all of the Deacon/Sheila/Finn/Steffy/Liam shit is going. Now it seems like we're back on the Finn is stupid over his bio mom, so Steffy will flee back to Waffles track. Ick. Go ahead and surprise me writers. I am assuming that Deacon is going to head over to Steffy's house now, because he has to know that's exactly where Sheila headed the second his back was turned. So, he'll run over and get her out of there and try to get her to calm down. Surprise me, though, and have him wash his hands of her when he catches her over there. Because he's risking his relationship with his daughter and grandchildren, banking on her really having changed, and she's showing him she hasn't changed. Oh, back to the writers changing tracks. We haven't seen any Bill/Poppy scenes since the dinner where she realized she didn't have her drugs, and neither has mentioned the other in the scenes since then (except for him being part of the conversation between Li and Poppy). I suspect that the original plan was for Luna to be Bill's daughter and for the three of them to be this happy family. Obviously, if that was the plan, they already changed their minds on him being the father, but it also makes me wonder if they're going to back off the Bill/Poppy relationship altogether.

Kind of looks that way. (Hey, anyone but Thomas, so, sure, what the hell. Why not?) Also, is it me, or does it seem like Steffy is going to kill Sheila, probably in self-defense, but her having told her she wants her dead will have Finn and Deacon insisting it was intentional? I'm wondering how we get from today's cliffhanger to these spoilers. I'm going to guess that Deacon figures out where Sheila went, and he hustles over there to retrieve her before she can do anything. And maybe Liam is also being a creepy stalker and spots them leaving Steffy's house? And that's what leads to the Deacon/Liam argument on Tuesday? Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Monday, February 26: Finn confesses his true feelings about Steffy and Sheila’s altercation to Hope. Steffy can’t shake her overwhelming, ominous feeling about Sheila. Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Tuesday, February 27: Deacon and Liam argue about Sheila’s unpredictable behavior. Steffy and Finn encounter an unexpected challenge. Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Wednesday, February 28: Carter delivers unanticipated information to Ridge and Thomas. Finn reels at Steffy’s news. Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Thursday, February 29: Hope informs Brooke of Steffy and Sheila’s fight. Ridge and Thomas stand in support of Steffy while Finn supports Sheila. Bold & Beautiful spoilers for Friday, March 1: Ridge makes a request of Deputy Chief Baker. Hope comforts a distraught Finn at Sheila’s apartment.

"I'm not a threat to you." Bitch, you shot her and her husband and left them for dead in an alley. She's always so damn delusional about the extent of what she's done and how she expects everyone to just get over it and embrace her. I was happy that, when Deacon and Finn came in, it was Sheila on the attack, strangling Steffy. Yeah, sure, Steffy sought her out and started shit, but I'm just so deeply tired of Sheila. She's not even a fun, campy, love to hate villain. She's just whiny and tiresome. And if I never hear her call Deacon "daddy" again, it will be too soon. Finn's duh face whenever confronted with Sheila is so ridiculous. Where is the Finn who had nothing but venom for her when he was stuck in that hospital bed at her mercy? That Finn was interesting, and TN did a really good job with those scenes. "But she's my mommy" confused Finn is terrible, and TN's acting is horrific in those kinds of scenes. Liam, shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Hayes is still going to be Sheila's grandson no matter who Steffy is married to. Even if Finn embraced her and said "but I'm giving Steffy full custody of Hayes," Sheila wouldn't be content with that. If anything, it would piss her off more and make her more obsessive, because Steffy hurt her son and took her grandson away. Let's have this fight, along with his conversation with Hope in yesterday's episode, be the nail in the coffin for Deacon's relationship with Sheila. And have Finn, tomorrow, reiterate that he wants her to stay the hell away from his family. Then, let Sheila lose her shit, do what she's going to do, and finally toss her into jail and send her off screen for a nice long time. She works best in small doses, and she has way outstayed her welcome this time. They should have had a much longer gap between when they thought she was mauled to death by a bear and when she reappeared. And, Lord, please don't let her mention of her other kids mean the show is thinking of adding some of her offspring to the canvas. We don't need that.