JenLily

I liked it, too! Mr. Lily and I kept cracking up at the crazy deaths (I mean, except for the first lady who seemed to have felt like that was the only way out) and at the reactions of poor Natasha every time she realized she was stuck with the baby. Can't wait to see how the rest of the season plays out.

Mr. Lily thought it was completely appropriate. His exact words? "Nope. You don't fuck your brother over like that." (It's worth noting that he has two older brothers. 😂)

I really liked the finale. The homegoing ceremony was such a nice way to say goodbye. I admit to getting teary-eyed when Dre and Rainbow were talking to each other in the empty house. You could really see that it was Anthony Anderson and Tracee Ellis Ross saying those words to each other and it touched me. I know the show hasn't been amazing for a little while now but I loved it and I'll miss it.

I was hysterical laughing throughout most of this episode but I have to say the highlight for me was when Marina's boss confessed to being high as well: "It's a three and a half hour musical, Marina. That's not acceptable," Also that moment right before when Marina lost her last remnants of cool with her boss and was yelling at him about all his questions and Tom was trying to mediate and she just kept saying with increasing intensity, "The quest is on. The quest is ON." 😂 I rewound their entire conversation twice. It was absolute chef's kiss.

Hoo, that knocked me out. 😭

It is broken up into a couple of days. Eric Stonestreet was on Ellen a few weeks ago promoting the show and all I remember of the interview was him saying that in addition to the regular stress of worrying about accidents during the build, that the actual building where they're at is near-ish to an airport and when they'd come in the next day they'd all be worried that the natural noise/movement that comes from planes flying nearby might have knocked something down overnight.

Ted Danson's gasp ("What?!") after Fran Drescher said, "Turns out you can print from your cell phone!" was absolute perfection.

Me, too! I knew she was going to fall but seeing her foot slip right off the desk and then watching her go down SO HARD, I was like, "OH MY GOD!!" Mr. Johnson: But a dream can be a distraction just as easy as it can be a goal. I had to pause, rewind, listen to it again, and pause once more. That line hit me where it hurt. This show is just gorgeous.

I know it's not official but Kim constantly refers to the three of them as a family. She's involved him in the care of Makayla almost from the beginning and they're even living together (or are planning to if the move hasn't actually been made yet). They don't need a piece of paper naming him the father for him to have formed any paternal feelings over the last year since she came into their lives. It's why it hurt him so badly when Kim threw it in his face that Makayla's *her* kid and not his. It was a bitch move on her part to assert her authority over his in the situation and deliberately minimize the relationship he has with Makayla.

Thank you for the info! I guess I probably should've said "mainstream artists" rather than "famous artists"? I knew that the performers aren't complete unknowns but tonight the only name that I actually recognized was Michael Bolton's. Then again, maybe I'm not as plugged in to the music scene as I used to be. I guess I shouldn't have been surprised either way considering the artists that have performed on Eurovision.

Understandably so, it was their kid that was taken. Which is exactly why they never should've been allowed near the investigation. Voight messed up when he killed his son's killer. Besides the obviously problematic murder, he lost any leg to stand on when it comes to telling his people to stay away from any case involving family. Kim's been a bit of a shit when it comes to Adam's feelings for years now, ever since that bullshit "test" she pulled on him at Roman's suggestion when they were engaged way back in season 3. I'm extraordinarily tired of the way she treats him, as if his feelings are secondary to whatever she's going through at any given moment. She will never feel like he is an equal partner in any relationship they have, whether romantic or platonic. She'll keep him around or toss him away on a whim.

I think this is going to be a fun show to watch. I understand why they toned it down from the original Eurovision though; I'm guessing a wide swath of America has never seen Eurovision before (Mr. Lily asked if they were basing this on the Will Ferrell movie 😂) and would be super confused at any wild performances. I missed the first two performances but I listened to the songs on YouTube. MN was okay, the song sounded like pretty much any generic boy band song one would hear on the radio. I really liked OK's song though, it had a fun beat. I'm looking forward to seeing her perform it. I thought the AR song was pretty, even though I'm not super into country music. IN's was fine, it had a catchy hook but otherwise not particularly memorable. I really liked the Puerto Rican artist but the song itself was only okay. I wish he'd sung it in Spanish. I wonder if he chose to sing in English to be more appealing to a mainstream American audience, a la Ricky Martin. I was surprised to see Michael Bolton there. When they announced his name, I thought it would be an Office Space situation where some poor soul was also named Michael Bolton and lived his entire life constantly getting mistaken for the real thing but no, there the real thing was. I haven't looked to see who else is slated to perform. Are there any other famous artists representing states/territories besides him? I liked the song well enough but his performance was lackluster to say the least. He looked like he was reading his lyrics on a teleprompter. I didn't really care for IA's song, it was a little too girl power for me and the tune itself wasn't particularly catchy. WI's song didn't stick with me at all. I can barely remember what it sounded like and I can't be bothered to go looking for it for a re-listen either. It took me a while to get into the MS song. There was so much going on onstage that I was distracted and couldn't really focus on the song itself. But by the end I liked it well enough. I really liked WY. The performance was a lot of fun and the song itself was a toe-tapper. I hope he moves on. I loved RI as well. It was a gorgeous song and I love the quality of the singer's voice. I'm glad he was passed through immediately. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the performances. This will be a nice way to pass the time over the next few weeks. I just hope there's a nice balance of upbeat songs and ballads that end up advancing. I can't think of anything more boring to watch than a finale filled with slow songs. The way she spelled it made me giggle. When I was little, my mom taught me how to spell Mississippi by reciting, "M-I-crooked-crooked-I-crooked-crooked-I-P-P-I" in a little singsong voice. To this day, her song runs through my head when I have to spell it out. 😊

I genuinely don’t know if I can keep watching this show anymore. Celebrating the two of them getting together after what he put Gabby and Rachel through is disgusting. It’s perpetuating and excusing borderline (if not actual!) abusive behavior and it’s so, so gross. Oh, and way to be copycats, show. Jumping on Joe Millionaire’s coattails there. It looks like the girls didn’t know, which is weird. When do they start filming?

I, too, am shocked at how they chose to end Jess's story. Yeah, he's going out a hero but I would've much preferred him riding off in the sunset, happy and healthy. I have to admit, I haven't been enjoying him the past few episodes. It's seemed like Julian was phoning in his performance in anticipation of leaving (much like I've phoned in my performance at every job I've ever had between giving my notice and my actual last day) so I was looking forward to seeing Jess get to start his new life away from the FBI. I'm apparently in the minority in that I'm actually looking forward to Dylan McDermott joining the cast, but I hope the show does a better job of bringing his character in than they did of writing Jess out.

I think this episode needs to be unpinned. It may be causing people to be posting under the wrong topic.

It's got to. She told the cops that she was already home when she made that call and no way that little yippy dog she has would have that same bark. I know nothing about this case (other than she did it) so I'm intrigued and really looking forward to the rest of the season.

It took me until tonight but I finally figured out who Gabby’s voice reminded me of. A combination of her: And the nurse in this scene:

Yeah, I thought that was odd, too. I would be shocked and horrified if I saw a body floating in the water, but hysterical crying? Probably not. I'm chalking Lauren's reaction up to postpartum hormones though, so I'll cut her a little bit of slack there. Did anyone notice Zack's lack of reaction though? Mr. Lily saw him apathetically walking away and was like, "Sociopath." 😂

I have high hopes for Iyanna and Jarrette. There was a joy about them that I didn't see in any of the other couples. I'm sure there will be some growing pains as they get to know each other more and move from being two single people to a married couple but there seems to be a real affection between the two of them that leads me to believe that they'll both put the work in. I hope I'm not wrong. I was genuinely surprised at the Mallory/Sal result, not because they didn't wed but because I was absolutely certain it would be Mallory saying no. I think she grew to really care about him but not to the point where she'd want to marry him after such a short time so I was surprised that it was Sal who decided not to go through with it. I hope they do date and see if things may go somewhere. There's potential there. I mean, as long as the uke stays stored away in the closet. 😉 I felt for her though that her parents and brother didn't come. That must have been so hard for her knowing that they weren't okay with any of this. Another reason why I thought she would say no, to be honest. I'm genuinely relieved that Natalie and Shayne didn't get married. I'm not surprised at all that Shayne said those horrible things. Despite the show trying to redeem his character, he always struck me as someone who would hit below the belt when he's angry and telling the woman you're supposed to be marrying tomorrow that you hate her and she's the worst thing that's ever happened to you is not something that can be walked back with a simple "I'm sorry." The fact that he lashed out at her again when she pointed that out, making her sound that she was being unreasonable for not accepting at face value that he "didn't mean" what he said further supports that she made the right decision. I do wish that she weren't so willing to give him another chance. He should be begging her forgiveness if he wants things to work out (which I honestly don't think he does); she shouldn't be telling him that she's leaving the door open for him. I think we can all agree though that her dad's the real star in all this, right? I'm glad that Deepti and Shake didn't get married, too, and I'm glad that it was Deeps that made that decision for herself. I think he wasn't lying when he said he cared about her but she's right that he didn't care about her the way she deserved and it was plainly obvious to anyone that he was talking himself into loving her every step of the way. Gosh, she was a beautiful bride though. Even Shake seemed to be moved by how stunning she looked. Ugh, Nick and Danielle. That marriage is going to IM.PLODE. Dude is going to be walking on eggshells around her for the rest of his life. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's a real prize either. But there's a special kind of exhaustion that comes with having to deal with someone with that level of insecurity and I don't see him being able to keep it up for very long. Maybe, maaaaybe, if the two of them go into some serious marital and individual counseling, they may have a chance. But I just don't see it lasting. It wasn't just the buckets of sweat pouring out of him at the altar; it was him practically dancing with fear and anxiety and then seeing his eyes go very still and blank when he said, "I do." Talk about a lack of joy. He looked like he was signing his own death warrant. Does anyone know how they decide who gets asked first at the altar? I wonder, like Mallory and Sal did, how things would've gone if the other person was asked first.

I don't understand how any of them are acting like Angelina was unreasonable for being pissed that her and Chris's luggage didn't make it onto the plane. I would've been absolutely furious at Mike. If he wants to bring seven suitcases, that's fine, but you can damn well bet that if there was a weight issue the only one of those seven suitcases that should've made it on was the one that held the baby's stuff. And then for Lauren to act all amused/smug that she looked at her stuff and decided that she just couldn't lend any of it to Angelina? No. Your husband did this. It's up to your husband to fix it. And if he won't, then you should at least try to make up for his selfish actions. For all the progress Mike has made over the years, I couldn't believe how bewildered he was that she might be angry that she's stuck in hot-ass FL with the same clothes on for two days. Lauren in general is not looking good the last couple of episodes. Between her shitty attitude at dinner last week and then her snapping at the server (!!!) at the bar? Wow. And then to try and justify it by saying she used to do it at the club she went to before. Nah, bitch. You shouldn't have ever done that in the first place. That's not bougie. That's low-class. Good for Deena for rightly calling her out on it. I'm looking forward to seeing the murder mystery thing play out next week. I laughed when Deena said that the only person she really wanted to get invested in the whole drama was Jenni, and then the graphic popped up on the screen of "Get Jenni invested" with a check mark next to it. Does anyone besides me hate Vinny? I think the guy is a capital A asshole.

I think it was the emergency contact. Meredith had to fill out medical info and realized she didn’t have “a person” to be her contact. So she asked Christina to be “her person”. Then they kept using it. And now we are being endlessly tortured with it on this show. It was the other way around. Cristina was scheduling an abortion and she told Meredith that she put her down as her emergency contact person. Meredith didn't realize that Cristina considered her a close enough friend to trust her that way. "The term was coined over a decade ago on “Grey’s Anatomy” — to describe the deep bond between best friends Cristina Yang (Sandra Oh) and Meredith Grey (Ellen Pompeo). The first time it’s uttered, they’re seated at Joe’s Bar when Cristina matter-of-factly tells Meredith that she put her name down as an emergency contact for an abortion she has scheduled. “The clinic has a policy. They wouldn’t let me confirm my appointment unless I designated an emergency contact person, someone to be there just in case and to help me home, you know, after. Anyway, I put your name down. That’s why I told you I’m pregnant. You’re my person,” Cristina says." From this article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2018/12/04/youre-my-person-how-greys-anatomy-created-stand-in-soul-mate/ I always really liked the deeper meaning behind that phrase. Then the Bachelor franchise had to come along and ruin it.

I have a feeling all of this discussion is going to end up being moot. She won't get into Johns Hopkins and the storyline is going to turn to her feeling like a failure and a disappointment (especially to her mother) and Bob being the supportive, encouraging husband. I wouldn't be surprised if she does end up deciding to becoming a nurse practitioner as a result, as that suits both her personality and her ambitions quite well.

I was howling from beginning to end this episode. Tom immediately figuring out Marina thought she was pregnant because she refused more wine killed me. (Frankly, it's how I knew my sister was pregnant with her first.) And everything about their absolute glee and relief when the test came back negative. Tom: OH DEAR GOD THANK YOU!!!! Marina: I guess I just got an upset stomach. You know, I gotta stop eating whatever the twins throw on the floor. And then in the midst of Sarah and Denise deciding to have a baby. Tom: THANK GOD, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A NIGHTMARE!!! (down on his knees hysterical laughing and clapping)

Another fellow Illinoisan here and had never heard of the murders before this, although I've been to Starved Rock a couple of times and even to that spot. I don't think that Chester actually committed the murders. However, I think he knew who did and I think he had a hand in covering it up. Whether he was present or not at the time of the murders, I'm not sure about either. I'll be very interested to see what the DNA results show. I agree with David Raccuglia that I think we're past the point of Chester being able to provide any meaningful input. Between his advanced age and whatever stories he's spun over the past 60 years, I'd be surprised if he even remembers the details anymore.

I'm still watching and am thoroughly entertained by its unabashed silliness. I, too, suspect that her little boytoy is an undercover cop or federal agent and that it'll be Desna herself that brings her own criminal enterprise down. I laughed my everliving ass off when Bryce was in the car reassuring himself as Jenn got out to talk to the kids: "Just kissing them goodnight." (pause, then sees Jenn herding the kids to the car) "Oh, it's an abduction now. Okay." 😂