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According to this report, the Arrow-Flash 2-hour cross-over episode event will be the 8th episode of both series. However, I don't know what the title of the Arrow episode will be (maybe "Arrow vs. Flash"?). So I've corrected my post above. Thanks! http://www.tvovermind.com/arrow/arrow-flash-casts-get-ready-crossover-episode-240622

Got my new TV Guide (double issue) and am glad to see "new" (finally) next to the Arrow listing for Oct. 8th! If I've read this Spoilers thread correctly, we only know the titles for the first eight episodes so far? 3.1 - The Calm 3.2 - Sara 3.3 - Corto Maltese 3.4 - The Magician 3.5 - The Secret Origin of Felicity Smoak 3.6 - Guilty 3.7 - Draw Back Your Bow 3.8 - [Arrow/Flash cross-over episode]

This is a great article... Andrew Lincoln and Norman Reedus Team Up to Preview The Walking Dead's Fifth Season Rob Moynihan Sep 23, 2014 08:00 PM ET http://www.tvguide.com/News/Walking-Dead-Andrew-Lincoln-Norman-Reedus-1087473.aspx

The Walking Dead Adds Everybody Hates Chris Star in Mystery Role By Paul on Sep 25, 2014 http://www.tvovermind.com/the-walking-dead/walking-dead-adds-everybody-hates-chris-star-mystery-role-241012

This show has markedly improved from last season. It still has its flaws, though (as others have noted). I loved the flashback opening scene with Agent Carter and the two CA team members. I was completely surprised by the Simmons reveal. When we first see Fitz, there's a small fakeout where we think he might be deaf or catatonic, then it's just an earbud. But at the end when we find out that he's been hallucinating Simmons, that was a 'whoa' moment and quite heartbreaking. I like that Coulson has become less nice guy and more big picture ruthless. I like the new Skye, and May was awesome. Ward has done a complete 180 from bland to creepily intriguing. As tv usual, the official government types like Talbot were completely stupid. So I guess they're going to replace Ward on the team with that surviving Team Lawless guy?

I thought this episode was kinda 'meh'. I'm also confused because I must've missed something ... when did Agent Rice become part of their team?

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I also wanted to add that you can tell that everyone involved with the show has a lot of fun - from the writers to the actors. As Neurochick said, the show doesn't take itself too seriously. I get annoyed by shows that are pretentious. You can just imagine the writers sitting around thinking up fun ways to incorporate American history. Yet at the same time, the show is serious about good writing. good acting, and good production. Regarding John Noble, the only problem I have with him is that I find it hard to believe that he is Ichabod's son - who I thought would be tall and skinny. Regarding Katrina, I can see the pre-time traveling Ichabod falling for her. But I have to think that Ichabod in today's world is changing and might not be the same person as he was back then. Once they're reunited, I can see cracks in their relationship appearing. However, they are married and, back then, divorce was not acceptable - so the only way that they would separate would be if one of them dies. Also, I think it would be out of character for Ichabod to cheat on his wife. I would believe in a romance between Ichabod and Abby only if Katrina died and several years went by- because he does love Katrina and would deeply mourn her death. On The X-Files, it took several years before Mulder and Scully got together, and neither of them was married. Regarding Scorpion, it got a lot of ratings help from its Big Bang Theory lead-in... which makes sense seeing as how Scorpion is basically just a dramatic, crime-solving version of BBT (bunch of genius nerds with no social skills helped by an average but attractive waitress).

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I enjoyed this pilot episode. Yes, it can use some tweaks, but it shows great promise. I liked that the mystery of who killed the Wayne parents wasn't solved right away. I liked that James Gordon was left with the choice of three bad options at the end: kill Oswald in cold blood, refuse and have to kill Harvey in self-defense, or let Oswald go. He lets Oswald go free and Oswald goes on to kill people. I thought Ben Mackenzie did a great job as Gordon. He's one of those actors who can look like a nice guy one moment and then demonstrate dangerous ruthlessness the next (kinda like Russell Crowe). We know from Batman Begins that Fish Mooney probably doesn't survive, but Carmine Falcone does. I suspect Jada Pinkett Smith signed a one-year contract - I doubt she would commit long term to a TV show. I'm on the fence about Gordon's fiance, Barbara. In the comics, I wonder if the show will follow the comics. I'm also on the fence about Catween (credit to mtlchick). She did make for some neat visuals with the cityscape, though. And when she was weaving through the crowds, the city streets had a very Blade Runner-ish feel to it (as also noted by tennisgurl). I liked the relationship between Gordon and young Bruce Wayne. Gordon wasn't willing to let Bruce believe a lie - that his parents' killers had been caught - but still wanted to reassure Bruce that he was going to keep his promise and find the real killers. Gotham and Sleepy Hollow are now my Monday night viewing of choice.

Despite some minor flaws, I loved this episode. It was great to see Ichabod, Abby and Jenny again. The fake-out was great at the beginning (it was cruel of the writers, though, to make us think that Katrina was dead). Ichabod's escape from the box (nice call back to pilot with hand bursting out of the ground) and his subsequent walk to where Jenny was being held required some suspension of disbelief. However, the humor was back, the chemistry between Ichabod and Abby was back, and the suspense was back. I didn't care for the Katrina scenes (like scenes from a bad romance novel), which didn't seem to accomplish much other than to show that she was with the Headless Horseman (which we knew). I liked John Cho's brief appearance. I liked that Abby could tell it was Fake Ichabod because he didn't call her "Leftenant". And Jenny was kickass when she went all Black Widow on the henchman. Although I normally don't laugh during TV shows (not even comedies), I did LOL when Ichabod recorded his farewell video message to Abby, saw the "Memory Full" message, and said "and none of that recorded, wonderful". I also loved Ichabod's comment about how he must learn to drive and all of his snarky comments about Benjamin Franklin. BTW, as kennyab also noticed, why didn't Benjamin Franklin have a British accent? Remember, "we were all British then". I like aquarian1's theory that the reason Ichabod is involved with so many historical figures is because he's a witness, so destiny took a hand. Also, my theory about why two of the Horsemen are related to Ichabod in some way is that the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are not the same throughout history. Over centuries, they've tried to emerge on various occasions, so the two witnesses change each time, and therefore the Four Horsemen change to be people related to the two witnesses. So we know two Horsemen are related to Ichabod and the other two Horsemen will probably be related to Abby in some way.

I don't know which is worse - the writing or the acting on this show. Rebecca finally gets to kill someone... right before she is killed. Maybe she should've gotten rid of the syringe before Big Jim arrived. Smart of Big Jim to set Pauline's art studio on fire, which could spread to other buildings... in an enclosed Dome space. I say this every week because every week I'm in appalled disbelief that everyone - including, apparently, the show's writers and producers - seems to have forgotten that Sam murdered Angie. It's almost funny that Sam is the one who tried to stop Big Jim from killing Rebecca with a little hammer when Sam butchered Angie with a big axe. Of course, Big Jim can't just shoot and kill Julia right away, but has to use the little hammer so that she has the chance to escape (kinda like those James Bond movies where he's always put in some death trap from which he can escape). Nice to know that Julia, with a wounded leg, can outrun Big Jim. Even though the crater tunnel is shaky and it would be great if everyone rushed to the exit as quickly as possible, Joe and Norrie take time out to have a Norrie angst session - she must be on medication because she had more mood swings in this episode than Big Jim. So Julia, Junior and Big Jim are left behind while the rest of Chester's Mill are led into the white light by Melanie. It might've made more allegorical sense if those left behind were the ones who had killed or kidnapped someone in Chester's Mill - but no, Barbie leads the people to the exit and, with his magic hand, opens the blocked doorway, while Sam is among those in front to leave the Dome. I am ashamed to confess that I would like to know where Melanie is going to lead them...

I never saw New Amsterdam and I've always liked Ioan Gruffudd, so I thought this pilot episode wasn't bad. It did seem like a cross between Castle and Elementary with a touch of the supernatural. Every time I saw that female detective (played by Alana DLG), I thought Kate Becket. The chemistry between Alana and Ioan needs work, but Forever shows promise.

Before Arrow debuted, I was looking forward to the Laurel character (among other things). After watching the pilot episode, I was disappointed at how Laurel was portrayed and her lack of chemistry with Oliver. As Season 1 progressed, I got more turned off Laurel. Watching her and Oliver interact was not fun and one of the reasons I almost stopped watching Arrow during Season 1. I wanted to like her but just couldn't.

I also don't get the Laurel being lonely argument. She grew up with a sister and loving parents. In the past several years, she thought she lost her sister but she still had her loving parents. Yes, they divorced and her father became an alcoholic for a short time. But he sobered up and is still there in the same city supporting her. Her mother is living in a nearby city, a short trip away - not all the way across the country. She also had her friend at CNRI (whose name I can't remember), plus the support of the Queen family (Moira, Thea), plus the love and support of Tommy before he died. During that same 5-year period, Sara was separated from her loving family, terrified and struggling to survive, forced to become an assassin in order to live. Although we don't know exactly what she went through (other than forming an attachment with Nyssa), I imagine she felt pretty lonely. Since Oliver landed on the island, he's never really been alone, alone. He had Yao Fei, Slade and Shado, then Sara, and now he's apparently (flashback-wise) with Waller and ARGUS. We don't know yet about the remaining 3 years away, except that he's back on the island alone when he's rescued. Even Felicity has no father and an estranged mother (and no siblings that we know of). She seems to have no "family" support in Starling City and thus formed a surrogate family with Oliver and Diggle. Now if we were talking about self-pity, then I would agree that Laurel is the queen of self-pity.

Ditto to everything ottoDbusdriver said above. I'm sick of seeing manufactured drama where one character acts incredibly stupid - like Vanessa going alone, without backup, to confront Darius, when she knows Darius is willing to commit murder in order to achieve his ends. Then she comes up with this incredibly stupid bomb ploy to undermine his plans. I couldn't care less about the blonde girl, Perry, but she needs to get a spine and some integrity. The only character I liked, Kyle, is now made stupid by going along with the May-Twos. How is giving one billionaire sole control over the embryos - and hence the future of mankind - any better than giving the U.S. government sole control over the embryos, especially when that billionaire plans an elite new humanity of one-percenters?

I'm now rooting for Middle Feast. I'm completely turned off Lone Star with all their price gouging.

I was disappointed at the results because I've always been skeptical of Gibson's bullying victim 'sob story'. But overall I liked all the kids.

Arrow - Season 2 - 13 Deleted Scenes Posted by DarkUFO at Saturday, September 20, 2014 http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/09/arrow-season-2-13-deleted-scenes.html

When I said that there was flack about "sexed-up" images of Felicity and Laurel on the Season 2 poster, let me clarify. Personally I thought they both looked great, but I recall there being some fan outrage that Felicity didn't look like Felicity (with her IT clothes, ponytail and glasses) but had been glamorized with her clothes, heels, long wavy hair, and no glasses. (Remember this was after Season 1 during which she was wearing pretty conservative work clothes, and before Season 2 broke out her more fashionable dresses.) I recall some fan comments about how she and Laurel both had sexy images on the poster, which were explained away by being typical CW promotion of its female stars. It was the first time that Felicity was put on the promotional poster. So I was simply speculating that perhaps the Season 3 poster attempted to portray them both more in character, although they still didn't go so far as giving Felicity glasses. That second Season 3 poster (posted here) is disappointing. I was expecting/hoping the second poster would show Ra's al Ghul, Malcolm, Thea, Sara and Nyssa - the LOA side.

Is anyone still watching this show? I can't believe Dobson survived being dragged around the city, including onto a bus, only to be shot at the end. I can't believe Martin drank that cup of coffee. He should've known better. Maybe lack of sleep dulled his wits. I did like Martin defending the house and taking out all of those attacking guys in different ways. The Gates and Sonya reveal was a surprise. Crystal and Rice didn't annoy as much this episode.

We suspected that Laurel was going to get more screen time this season. The EPs probably think they've fixed the 'Laurel problem' by having her in on the secret and making her part of Team Arrow. This season, she'll be the loyal, helpful, platonic female friend to Oliver (Felicity role) while training to become a bad-ass fighter (Sara role). Meanwhile, Felicity will get the angsty love drama (denting her popularity) while Sara will be slowly phased out. That's my fear. I never thought AK had given up on his original vision for Laurel - he's just sneakier about it. He probably has visions of a Black Canary spin-off show in the future. One person in each of the previous seasons' posters has left the show by the end of the season, so one can only hope.... ; ) More follow-up on that BR radio interview (posted a page or so back in this thread)... 'Arrow' Season 3: Brandon Routh Confirms New ‘Atom’ Suit http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/566836/20140919/arrow-season-3-atom-brandon-routh-suit.htm