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Full KC panel at Fan Expo Dallas this past weekend (I haven't watched it, so please don't ask me what she said)... Katie Cassidy Q&A Panel (Arrow - Black Canary) - Fan Expo Dallas 2016 - Dallas Comic Con 2016 Published on Jun 6, 2016, by Adam Perez

It was Felicity who told Oliver that he was conflicted... Oliver: "And they're leaving because of their own personal darkness. I just can't help but think that maybe they were infected by mine." Felicity: "Maybe. Like you said, maybe you can't become a hero without succumbing to the darkness even a little bit. But you were able to defeat Darhk by giving the city its hope back." Oliver: "You're saying it's not black and white?" Felicity: "I'm saying that there is a man who killed Darhk in cold blood. And that same man stood on top of a car and gave the city its hope back. What you're feeling isn't darkness. It's a schism. You're at war with two sides of yourself." (Just before being sworn in as interim mayor.) Thomas Kemp: "Are you sure about this? You look, well, conflicted." Oliver: "Well, someone very close to me recently told me that I am... But I am ready for this."

This article on Geoff Johns, new co-head of DC Films, seems timely... The New Co-Chief of DC Superhero Movies Is Big On Hope and Optimism By Abraham Riesman May 18, 2016 http://www.vulture.com/2016/05/geoff-johns-dc-films.html?wpsrc=nymag

Nice comment about SA... Stephen Amell shoots, scores as 'Turtles' hero Brian Truitt, USA TODAY 9:14 a.m. EDT June 6, 2016 http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2016/06/06/stephen-amell-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-movie/85366952/

I was including pro media (and other media) because complaints about romance and deviating from comics on Arrow exist there as well. But I get the rest of your post. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy? irony? whatever.

JOHN AND CAROLE BARROWMAN ON WRITING A NEW SIDE TO MALCOLM MERLYN POSTED BY KENDALL ASHLEY ON JUNE 5, 2016 http://nerdist.com/john-and-carole-barrowman-on-writing-a-new-side-to-malcolm-merlyn/

I don't recall SA saying anything new.

These two articles were retweeted by MG... Ghostbusters, Frozen, and the strange entitlement of fan culture By Jesse Hassenger May 25, 2016 9:00 AM http://www.avclub.com/article/ghostbusters-frozen-and-strange-entitlement-fan-cu-237139 Fandom Is Broken By DEVIN FARACI May 30, 2016 http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/05/30/fandom-is-broken

Then I assume that we'll hear no complaints about hope and romance on Arrow going forward "because comics."

From same Hypable article:

Present day Oliver - or even fully evolved Oliver - is always going to be closer to S1 Oliver than pre-island Ollie. The change from pre-island Ollie to S1 Oliver is the most drastic and required 5 years of suffering, torture and killing. Pre-island Ollie is essentially dead. Pre-island Ollie would not have been able to break Taiana's neck in cold blood. (Pre-island Ollie couldn't even deal with getting a girl pregnant.) The change from S1 Oliver to S5 Oliver is less drastic and involves more of a balancing of his inner selves. He can still kill, but he won't do it as callously or as frequently. He's now a hero who can kill when necessary. I guess what I'm saying is that it's not that surprising that the closer the flashbacks get to S1, the more like present day Oliver he becomes. However, I agree that S4 flashback Oliver was too like present day Oliver.

Some fan tweets from DR panel at Phoenix Comicon this past Friday...

This excerpt from a recent Outlander review ("OUTLANDER RECAP: LEARNING TO PUT THE 'APT' IN ADAPTATION") could also be applied to Arrow - and Poldark as well...

This is so cute (from Wizard World Philadelphia)...

Some fan tweets from CL panel at Phoenix Comicon this weekend...

Another fan tweet about SA at Wizard World Philadelphia this weekend... Katrina law Hanover Dance Party Published on Jun 6, 2016, by Insta FOXtv

Interestingly, Laurel is not listed among the most controversial deaths (those went to Lexa and Lincoln on The 100, Robin on OUaT, Abbie Milles on Sleepy Hollow, Elizabeth Keen on The Blacklist and Carl Elias on PoI)... Death by numbers: A complete breakdown of 2016 TV character deaths and what they mean 1:00 PM EDT, JUNE 5, 2016 http://www.hypable.com/2016-tv-character-deaths-analysis/

You know what's funny? Official spoilers for S5 have been all about villains (or potential villains) while official spoilers for the new GA comics have been all about romance. Yet it's the TV show that's supposed to be the soap opera. ETA: I just posted a Hypable article in the Starling City Times thread that breaks down 2016 TV character deaths, in which Laurel is not even included among the most controversial deaths.

'Ninja Turtles' debut bad news for Hollywood sequels by Tre'vell Anderson Jun 6 2016 at 2:23 PM Updated Jun 6 2016 at 4:20 PM http://www.afr.com/news/world/north-america/ninja-turtles-debut-bad-news-for-hollywood-sequels-20160606-gpcj48

SA answers fan questions from London... Stephen Amell Live from Facebook. TMNT Movie premieres June Published on Jun 6, 2016, by Alex Leo SA sings "Little Mermaid again (he's good)... Nocking Point Wine Mixer Philadelphia Published on Jun 5, 2016, by Lacey Humphries

I agree that Oliver does deserve more credit than he gets both in show and outside the show (especially in comparison to Barry). As others have mentioned, Oliver has saved his city numerous times and he has also inspired others to take up the fight. He is not just a vigilante and a hero, he is also a leader. At the same time, I read yet another review this morning complaining about Felicity's magical, unrealistic computer skills diverting credit away from Oliver and that Oliver needs more solo victories. Like, Barry never gets help from his team, right? Or a shared universe with real magic, superpowers, alternate universes and time travel is so realistic.

Comparison of superhero shows - Broadcast Live +3 ratings, May 23-29 ("Schism" finale week)... http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/06/04/broadcast-live-3-ratings-may-23-29-2016/ Arrow 1.2 (+50%) and 3.059 (+39%) The Flash 1.8 (+38%) and 4.526 (+35%) Gotham 1.8 (+50%) and 5.045 (+39%)

Unfortunately, EBR and JBam did not win individual Leo Awards at last night's ceremony.. http://www.leoawards.com/2016/winners/by_name.php

Video clip of WH talking about her stunt double...

Short clips of JB at Awesome Con on June 4...