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Same here. It was great that previous crossovers ended with Legends because that show's writers always brought their "A" Game to the table. Actually it does seem like J'onn is being used more, but is just as ineffective as ever. Not only was he unable to shut Manchester down telepathically, J'onn couldn't even figure out where he was. Speaking of Manchester and his gadgets...where does he get all those wonderful toys? And the two sound alike as well. Funny aside - a set of identical twins work at a store I've frequented for years. One wears glasses and the other doesn't - that's the only thing that keeps me from confusing their names.

And there's also Lena to consider. Lena herself was recently attacked in her own office because Mercy Graves was able to hack Lena's security system long enough to gain access (since Mercy herself had designed the system). So Lena would also be at risk if Supergirl's secret identity became public knowledge, since even without the anti-alien movement, there would still be scores of criminals who would be out to get revenge on Supergirl through any and all of her loved ones. There's something to be said for those points, but Lena's and Catco's offices seem to be attacked pretty regularly as it is. I guess SG's coming out as Kara Danvers would only increase the frequency.

Actually that looks to me like a shout-out to John Byrne, who re-created the Superman mythos in the late 80s. IIRC, it always bothered Byrne how some super-heroes could fly without any type of explanation. So with the X-men, he established that Rogue flew by generating a force greater than gravity. When he took over Superman, Byrne stated that Kal-El flew by "sheer force of will," which is what Kara appeared to be doing tonight. It really was a cool use of her powers! Manchester Black is the most interesting character in this Universe. He's kind of like Batman - always prepared for any contingency, even stopped Kara dead in her tracks. Dude needs his own show, for real. Did anyone else think that Kara had flown into the DEO just to reveal her secret ID in light of Ben's comments? The whole "I can put my loved ones at risk" trope doesn't work here. Other than her adopted Mom, those closest to Kara (James, Alex, J'onn and Brainy) can all pretty much fend for themselves.

It's probably from Haley's goodbye cake!! Well, it has to be said - does this mean poor Kiki was a victim of...death by chocolate? I'll be here all week folks! And please, remember to tip your waiter!

Wasn't sure where to post this, but since Neil DeGrasse Tyson is a periodic guest star on BBT, I thought the Board might be interested in this: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredcows/2018/11/two-more-women-accuse-neil-degrasse-tyson-of-sexual-misconduct/ Aaargh...I guess he's not just pretending to be a creep. Bummer.

This show really does have a Thirtysomething (ABC melodrama from the 90s) feel to it, doesn't it? That had been bugging me for the longest time, what does this show remind me of? That's it, pretty folks in their 30s with unrealistic problems, all set to the backdrop of pop music. Except this show isn't as good as Thirtysomething. Man, I really do miss Brothers and Sisters, that show really nailed how to do friend/family melodrama featuring this demographic. The casting was superb (Sally Field, Rob Lowe and Emily Van Camp!) and it was almost always well-acted.

I never got on the "This is Us" bus, and thought this show would be a good alternative. The concept is great, but the writing truly sucks. As other posters have noted, these characters behave in ways no normal humans would. Other than the fact that most of them relate really well to children (a television rarity, IMO) they have very strange social skills and priorities. And I have to admit, I had forgotten who Ashley/Shady Secretary was until coming over to these boards. I actually thought she was a per-diem bartender, lol. Was that weird, or what? "Friends?" Katherine, those people barely seemed to tolerate you because you were with Eddie. If you have no other friend options outside of this circle, things might not be going well. Eddie is a lost man-child. His friends know this and don't seem to be able to bring themselves to tell him. Other than how good he is as a father, Eddie doesn't really seem to have any other redeeming characteristics.

That being the case, GH has been killing off young women longer than I remember. Definitely not cool, although I had no particular affection for any of the characters you mentioned.

As another poster commented, this show has a really bad habit of killing off young women - Kristina Davis (Alexis' sister), Georgie, Siobhan (Lucky's late wife), Disney Princess Sabrina, Courtney, and so on, almost like they were disposable spare parts. Even though Siobhan McKenna was a human plot point, her death at the hands of Anthony Zacharra always bothered me, because there was such a prurient aspect to it, the character really seemed to get such satisfaction from needlessly ending the life of an innocent young woman. This didn't happen so much in "Old School" GH, every once in a while a peripheral character, like Alexandra Quartermaine in the Ice Princess S/L, would be sacrificed for dramatic effect and to advance the story. Most of these recent deaths seem to be so gratuitous and unnecessary, IMO.

If not for the strong accent I wouldn't have even recognized her. Agreed, seeing her like that, in that setting, was a real downer.

It's alright. I actually know what's going on with this show, and I'm still confused.

I've always thought NLG was a competent actor. But man-oh-man, in the space of a week I saw her in a mid 90s episode of 7th Heaven and last week's 2000 re-airing of GH and she literally hasn't aged a freaking day.

As a black man living in the northeast (with southern roots), I never got the "black folks love fried catfish" television trope. Must be a bayou thing. Most of my seafood-loving relatives in NC, SC and GA are all about the whiting (or as we pronounce it "whiteys"). I've tried fried catfish on a few occasions and found it much too gamey. Different strokes, I guess. I absolutely agree with you. They need to phase out that family and retool the show. They need to build the series around Cedric and the rest of the cast that play his family. They are such wonderful actors. His wife on the show is especially good. I think this is a show that's going to take one, maybe one-and-a-half seasons to find its groove. So far it's been a little hit-or-miss, aside from the instant chemistry between Beth Behrs and Tischina Arnold (that CBS is trying to quickly capitalize on). If the show hasn't begun to congeal in the next 5-10 episodes I might be among those moving on, much as I like Cedric.

The best thing about the GH Baddies' "Chamber of Horror" is that it underscores what a lazy, uninspired, and boring serial killer Ryan Collins is. He's been storming around Port Charles almost two months and only has a single kill to his credit. Laura Spencer has a higher body count, lol.

I remember that episode of Homeland. Because Melissa looked so young it was really uncomfortable to watch. You think this isn't going to happen? This is totally going to happen. It will make for a great acronym though - MEGA.

Yikes, as hard as I'm trying to like this show you guys go and pick out all its flaws, lol. Lena is so going to be the show's next meta-human. Nothing about Lena says she'll test her tech on a human subject, even a willing one. She couldn't deal with the consequences of a failed experiment on a human subject. And as others have said, Supergirl as an employee of the DEO makes absolutely no sense. If, as General Haley implies, the DEO is a military organization, wouldn't that make SG an officer with some kind of assigned rank? Also, since everyone at the DEO seems to know that Kara=SG and Brainy=Alien from the Future, I can't imagine General Haley isn't aware of these facts. She'd look like the world's biggest idiot otherwise. Also General...you could have just given Brainy the recipe for your sweet potato pie...I've found that nutmeg, vanilla extract, allspice and a graham cracker crust make for a first class pie, just saying. Puff the Magic Dragon is the latest baddie to put Kara flat on her butt, it really doesn't take much, does it? Finally dawned on me, this show is going with a Byrne-esque reduction of SG's powers to make her seem less invincible. On a positive note, I like how they finally explained why J'onn doesn't like using his telepathy, takes another Deus ex machina off the table and helps keep the character in play. Overall, Kara does the worst job in history of maintaining a secret identity. She's constantly seen with all of SG's friends and acquaintances, it shouldn't be that hard for folks who know both of them to make the connection. Reminds me of an episode from the 60s Batman show where Robin has to rescue a kidnapped Bruce Wayne from the Joker. After they beat the bad guys, Robin asks Bruce, "aren't you going to press charges?" In a rare bit of realistic writing for that series, Bruce replies, "no, then we'd have to appear in court. You and I have been seen together in public too much as it is." Hard to believe that no one has realized Kara and SG not only look alike, but travel in the exact same circles.

This is one of the most thought-provoking threads I've read on this site in a while. A lot of good perspectives. My heart goes out to those of you who grew up in alcoholic families. My dad was a high-functioning (i.e., weekend) alcoholic long before the phrase was even coined. Reading the comments here have helped me understand Violet's position a bit more, although I still don't like her actions. It would be great if this show dealt more with the concept of alcoholism/addiction as a disease. Science has proven that it is to an extent hereditary. But seeing my dad slowly die of alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver when I was 23 has led to me living the life of a complete tea-totaler. As another poster said, you live what you learn. Violet, as far as we know, is living clean and sober, so there's that. But the hardest part is putting the dysfunctional family dynamic behind you, an issue a lot of us struggle with daily.

Heh. How many people could deal with 365 days a year of Bonnie and Christie stone-cold sober? But of course, the heart wants what it wants.

If Kiki is truly exiting the canvas the doping will somehow lead to her demise. If it does, I'll actually be kinda sad, in some odd way Griffin somehow makes Kiki somewhat tolerable.

RoHo eats in almost every scene now. He really doesn't need craft services between takes. I remember a scene years ago when Luke showed up at Alexis' door eating a Croissant out of a paper bag while they talked. It looked natural, organic. In RoHo's case it's just affect, an annoying tic based on the fact that he brings little else to the party.

They are so gonna screw. You can see it coming.

Well, I won't see today's episode until tomorrow. Here in NYC the wonderful Mayor has taken 45 minutes to explain why 6 inches of snow paralyzed the whole damn city yesterday. ETA - I see @YaddaYadda and Dubbel Zout feel my pain too. Thank goodness for on demand.

There's the line of demarcation between the three. Christie would have never pulled that scam, but Bonnie in her younger years would have had absolutely no problem. Could be that the "life preserver" moniker is based on Violet's conscious or sub-conscious identification with grandma. Sara rocks soooo hard, always has. Wish someone would give her a new sitcom.

Agreed, you couldn't tell by looking who's the mother and who's the daughter. I was thinking from an "aggressor vs victim" standpoint.