mythoughtis

I do not think any of Janelle or Christine’s offspring are interested in having courtships. Dating, living together, eventually marriage - sure. However none of them are conservatively religious that they would welcome courtships. Including Paedon( works in a strip joint) and Garrison ( even if he is traditional Mormon). It’s also a little ridiculous to speculate on whether a 12-14 year old will have a relationship over the course of her adult life.

Not only was it about Jill, it was about her miscarriages, and how traumatic Olivia’s birth was for her. How sad that her birthday is a means to convey how much Jill sacrificed to deliver her.

Ginger90 - I didn’t mean to imply that you thought it was at the same time. I was just offering up my thoughts as to why the outcomes for Maddie and Garrison were different. Basically different church personnel making the decisions.

This clip shows how unhappy Robyn is with Kody. How much anger she feels he still has after all this time. How tired she is of dealing with that anger. Meanwhile he thinks his anger is something to joke about. I really wish the powers that be would stop focusing on these two in TH.

I wouldn’t place too much stock in that internet mention. It refers to Meri as they, which is not the correct pronoun for Meri AFAIK. So the entire mention is questionable. My guess is that if Meri has changed her name, an entry would have needed to be posted in a local paper as part of the name change court filing- and there would be online court records. No one has mentioned finding either.

Robyn’s not having panic attacks. She’s not panicking or anxious about watching clips. She just doesn’t want to watch them and wants to reinforce her narrative that she’s being unfairly blamed for breaking apart the family

Janelle’s perfect summation preview: what a selfish bastard you are.

We also know that Robyn and Kody did act differently once they became legally married and it did change the family dynamic. Janelle knew it would. Kody blamed it all on Meri

The commitment ceremony … a lie because we now know Kody had already more or less left Meri and had melted down his original wedding ring

Maddie and Garrison weren’t trying to join at the same time or in the same church location. Maddie tried to join in Utah while she was in college, IIRC.

Given the comments Robyn has made in numerous TH this season, and the attitude she displays when filmed with Kody- combined with this ‘special covenant/promise’, divorce number 4 should be announced soon.

I think this is at the end when they were almost ready to leave. The guys have ice cream cups in front of them. The younger girls have empty plates in front of them.

That’s what I meant by I couldn't get to the forum. I tried - a LOT, LOL. I’m way too invested in this show.

I would have loved to comment on this episode live/ but I couldn’t get to the forum last night. Robyn again looked extremely uncomfortable and obviously did not want to participate. She apologized to Kody a couple of times for comments that were shown in clips She did however call Kody on the carpet for his ‘act and performance’ quips. Kody continues to consider himself blameless. For the first time ever, Jen was a delight. She was spot on with her comments about Robyn’s behavior in the clips. She added what we all already knew- Robyn didn't spend time with Meri except for filming. I no longer negatively view Meri for her attempt to have an emotional connection online. It sounds like Kody had ghosted her in addition to the legal divorce, and that he considered the marriage over. It’s been made painfully obvious that is what happened as soon as the legal divorce happened. I liked Janelle’s comments about Christine- but I must point out that the TH in the clips are meant to be ‘their thoughts when the original clip was filmed’. When Janelle first said she wanted to ‘stay separated’, she WAS undecided about her future with/without Kody. Christine was going with that vibe. I don’t think Christine currently thinks Janelle is undecided about her future.

This ‘helpful’ comment gets made by many many more people than the Jills of the world. ‘ G*d had his reasons, he’s in a better place’. People think they are good Christians when they say these things… but I can tell you that comments like this are extremely hurtful to the bereaved. Especially those that do not believe that G*d rips loved ones out of your life on purpose for some vague reason.

Janelle - OMG you have to love her responses!

But she’s not Dramatic. None of the OG wives carry on like her…. And it’s their marriages that imploded. Even Meri quit crying years ago.

Notice how they gloss over the three days notice to the kids

Kody- husbands don’t pick the dress. And you are switching from ‘ I loved my wives’ to ‘ I didn’t want to marry Christine.’ All in the same talking head

He loved his wives… but his marriages were all 16 years old or more. He’d lost the in love feeling. He fell in love with the new wife because she was NEW and shiny. This was always going to end in divorce for the other three.

They were all there for Ari’s birthday party. They all got tested just so they could come. So Christine has been in it at least once. Christine was just making the size comparison between Robyn’s mansion and Janelle’s RV.

Robyn wanted to be anywhere else but on that couch watching the episode with Kody. All her spoken words were to soothe Kody, but her mannerisms showed she agreed with the OG wives. Kody isn’t who she thought she married. Most normal people would have calmed down some by now - this has to have been filmed a full year after the episode they watched. Maybe able to admit their part in the issues. Kody is still in full denial anger mode. At this rate, his kids may speak to him about the time MyKelti’s twins start driving.

I think he was talking about some of his non-Robyn offspring. He called them a**holes in a previous episode. Regardless of which family members he was referring to, both statements were uncalled for. I repeat my earlier thought: if numerous people tell you the same thing as to what the problem is, they are usually correct.

So Christine reached out to Robyn’s kids, who didn’t respond. So Christine meant what she said on the porch that day- she needed space for a while. She never meant to ignore the kids forever

I don’t know one thing about Janelle’s ex-husband( who is Meri’s brother), who recently passed away. It sure sounds to me like Kody is trash-talking him without thinking about it. Surely he vetted Janelle as much as he vetted Robyn?