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The 'kids' were never properly handled. Blanche was described as the youngest of the 'girls', had several children. At the age she was supposed to be at the beginning, at least one of the kids should have been living with her, or at least home from college in the summers. She was only married for 25 years, and her husband had not been dead very long when the show started. The same for Rose - the 'kid' that slept with Michael was described as 28, and that was several years into the show. Rose supposedly moved from St. Olaf because she was getting older, but she turned 55 several years into the show. Who would have moved halfway across the country at 50 with children in college? No one but Sophia was retired, but they all spent hours and hours each week at the senior center, participated in all the special dances, banquets, etc.

Happy to see Susie in so many scenes.... and no sign of the new odd guy. It is really odd that Jane is there every single morning. How many people do you know that go over to a co-workers house for breakfast on work days? How convenient that call outs to murders never happen before breakfast. For that matter, why is Angela still there now that she has a steady job? Where is the tortoise?

I think I agree with a poster that said Davina expected to be matched with 'THE ONE', MR. PERFECT, in the way the old matchmakers from a couple centuries used to do. When she got Sean, she considered him broken, which maybe he was. He wasn't MR Perfect, but she wasn't his Ms. Perfect either. They needed to work together to find areas they could be in agreement on. I think they were asked how many nights they spent at the apartment, and said 10 or 12. So I think it's 10 or 12 out of 35, excluding the honeymoon and the weekend away. Sean probably worked 12 hour shifts plus overtime, so I still can't fault him for staying in Jersey on work days, the night's prior to work days, and so forth. It's just the reality of work. There is no way these couples could have been matched in ways that truly considered factors the way the old matchmakers used to do. Back then they looked at the family backgrounds, living location, religion, and all sorts of factors that would ease someone into a relationship. The matchmaker knew both families, and knew who might be good fits. There was courting involved, and even then, you could say no. Even with arranged marriages, the couple is consulted, the families often know each other, and the couple spends time skyping, or visiting with family present. They often live in the same neighborhood already, so moving and resettling isn't that big a deal. It's like marrying someone from your hometown vs marrying someone you met at college from another state. There is not near as many issues if you don't have to relocate. These couples didn't go that route, they went the mail order bride route. Uproot someone, ship them out on a stagecoach to be someone's bride they had never met with nothing more than a one-page fact sheet, leaving their entire lives behind. That takes courage. Marriage is a lot of work, and that first year is rough for even couples that have been together a while, or even lived together .To do the first six weeks of marriage with someone you never met and don't really care about..... A TV show isn't going to generate the commitment level needed. To turn your life upside down for six weeks for a stranger? I really cannot get too upset about Ryan R 'cheating' on Jaclyn if they weren't living together. Yes, technically they were married, but this premise was so stupid, that I just can't see it as 'cheating'. I just can't see the commitment that should have been there for any of them, and I can't see any of them being so in love that they considered themselves married either. If I was so shallow as to have done this show, I would have had to go to Vegas to renew my vows before I felt married.

two hours.... at least a 3rd of which was commercials, and another 3rd in recaps. Experts are so biased in what they wanted the results to be. Only 1 of the 3 couples should have ever been matched, and that was Jaclyn and Ryan. Why expect Sean to work two hours away from where they knew he would have to live to be with Davinia? Did they expect him to quit his job for a 6 week experiment? I know a lot of you don't like Sean, but Davinia is a piece of work, she didn't own one issue tonight. She wants a fairy tale Prince Charming. Ryan D is just skeevy.

Really surprised by Jessica and Ryan even trying, but am happy that they at least honored their commitment by giving it some more time - gather they broke up later. Sean and Davina - these two are still 'late sexual developers'. I think that is the term the experts used when saying why they matched them. Sean is set in his ways -he should have been more honest about not wanting to live more than an hour from his job, friends, and family. He should have been matched with someone of equal financial success. Davina is suffering from successful woman syndrome, accompanied by belief in fairy tales. She's not going to find someone who is more successful than her on a reality show, and she may need to expand her search beyond the Upper East Side. Who applies to be on this show and then buys an apartment while waiting to hear back? She wants someone that only exists in a book. Everyone has flaws, as one of the friends in the advice segment said.... you have to accept people as they are. When you are as successful as she is financially, you have to be willing to be with someone who makes less money than you do.... she wasn't.

Liberty is probably correct. After the two hours if clips and covering the same scenes 3 times ..... Jessica and Ryan - not together sort of as in not friends with benefits Sean and Davinia - not together Jaclyn and Ryan - dating and seeing how it goes

If they had just stayed silent after their statements, ended their show, not started another.... Then in a few years the offspring could have gone on missions, and lived their lives. Instead they had to stir up interest again. There is nothing they can say to make this better. Jill and Jessa could have issued a statement about their outrage at being outed as victims. Besides the fact that Derick and Ben didn't sign on for this situation, I am guessing Derick had to work ( interview during the day), and maybe Ben did too. But I firmly believe that Jim Bob and Michelle were within hearing and sight of this interview, just out of camera range.

I did notice the paper on Jill's knees primarily because it was covering the fact that her skirt did not cover those knees. Not that I care, it was a perfectly acceptable length - but I assumed she had noticed. I never gave much thought to what was on the paper itself. Good catch. I really find the whole point about the parent company of the magazine laughable. The Duggars, and the Gothard organization have done a remarkable job of objectifying women on their own. They have left them unable to process or defend themselves against abuse because they have made them second class citizens, who must obey all men. With no education or resources or self-esteem to remove themselves from abusive situations. Which then led me to wonder, is Jill's erroneous 2/3 allegation a little less ridiculous when you limit the scope to Gothard families? I would not be surprised to find out that abuse is much higher there than in the general population - closer to 1/3 as opposed to 1/6.

Its not that he said anything on camera, as much as his general attitude on camera says volumes. I am positive that he tried to warn Derick to stay away from the Duggars -wouldn't you?

Jill's emotions seemed off to me, but it could still be postpartum issues. I did notice she said I called my husband, never using his name. Think maybe Derick is distancing himself from this madness, wondering if maybe his step-dad was right?

Trying up decide what Derick and Ben are feeling in regards to tonight's part of the interview. Were they all for it,just supportive.... Or are the girls defying their wishes and doing the interview over their objection?

Trying up decide what Derick and Ben are feeling in regards to tonight's part of the interview. Were they all for it,just supportive.... Or are the girls defying their wishes and doing the interview over their objection?

Derick needs to stay at Walmart for now... health insurance, other benefits, and a good paycheck. Nepal won't work if there's no Duggar money supporting them while they are gone. They need to move (for more privacy) as far as they can get from Jim Bob and Michelle (for independence) and have Derick able to commute to work. They need a second car for Jill (so that she feels like an adult). After that they need to breathe, put one foot in front of the other, and veg out for a while.

I can't really fault Josh for trying to have an actual career rather than sitting around at the depressing car lot all day. He 'didn't know what he didn't know'. He had the cheerleader as his teacher, who mostly gave birth year after year, who taught him basically nothing. His parents told him all was forgiven and he never even got charged... he thought it was all behind him. It's only been in the last few years that every single person in the US has to wonder if every single transgression they have ever done will show up on the internet. As sheltered as he was, he's got no way of knowing this. However, Jim Bob as a former state rep, should have been aware of scrutiny like this, and should never have agreed to a TV show. No TV show, no reason for any of this to have come out. If Jim Bob had changed his family's lifestyle from fundy to moderate and put his kids in school when this happened, all of those children would have been better off.

I'm not seeing any benefit to anyone regarding this interview. Jim Bob and Michelle can't explain this any better than it's already been explained. We all know they didn't have a clue as to what to do, so they did whatever some other chuch elder with no college education or background in psych told them to. If they were intelligent people, none of the last 10 years would have happened the way it did, and they wouldn't have said and done the things they have. There is nothing they can say right now that will swing the court of public opinion. What they can do is to start sending their younger children to actual schools, colleges, churches, psychologists, encourage them to play sports and other team activities. In a year or so, start speaking out about the dangers of the lifestyle they lived, how it led to isolation that was harmful, etc. Encourage their older children to go to college, join actual churches, let go of the legalese for their own family, offer to put the young adults in apartments, or dorms. It's okay to encourage them to have roommates for safety. But, refuse all interviews, refuse to consider any more reality shows .... for anyone in the family.

The big news was probably that they had been asked to do the spin off show.

Ben and Jessa will be fine. He has an associate degree, he can get a job with benefits. They won't be rich, but they will get by. maybe they will rethink some things, and won't have 19 kids or worry about women wearing pants.

I would like the show to be cancelled, and no specials for 5 years. My reasoning is as follows: Anyone connected to this family in any way or connected to anyone who is connected to this family, or just believed this family is having their own crisis of faith, family, etc. Everyone needs to be able to work thru that without cameras or hypocrisy. The Duggar girls/boys need to decide what they believe and who they want to be without scripts. Same with Derick, Derick's family, Ben, Ben's family, the Ruarks, the crew, friends/family, co-workers of all of these. Do you realize how many people may not attend their own church tomorrow because of the Duggar scandal? Do you realize how many people will cross the street rather than talk to the Ruarks in Ohio? Derick's office co-workers now have another reason to look at him funny, but also question their own beliefs. How many TV watchers have started homeschooling their kids, or changing their own dress code because they believed the Duggars... and now have to re-think all of that. Please let all of these people go handle their mini-breakdowns in relative privacy without people wanting them to be shining examples of ....something they don't have the energy to be right now.

He just got braces - he's not leaving his orthodontist

Lets hope it's not working for Jim bob.

Guys have been pulling away from girls after they have sex the first time since the beginning of time. I kind of see it as the natural order of things being as they had no real relationship built up yet (a few days on a honeymoon does not count). And, I mean that for both Ryans. Truthfully, I would rather that they didn't have sex for the first month. I mean, they may split up after six weeks, so why push sex before then. I think they should make that part of the experiment. If Davinia wants sex, why doesn't she initiate it rather than just whine because Sean doesn't. Maybe he'll say yes. For all the gossip about him being a player, he seems more like a nerdy guy to me - just as Basement Ryan does. Nothing wrong with that. But nerdy guys don't normally initiate sex beause they are too shy to do so.

I actually liked this interventionist. No nonsense - take charge - but still low key. I like all of them, except for Seth. The relationship did border on creepy in addition to toxic. And the relationship between Leela and her taxi driver was strange. The grandparents were too old to deal with all that.

Andrew is addicted to alcohol and crack with an addicted Mother This Mother is unbelievable. She can't for the life of her see what she did wrong. I feel really sorry for this kid - yes, he's 22, but he's just a kid. Adding as I go thru the episode, she's a real piece of work. She comes from somewhere for the intervention, and she smokes $700 worth of crack with him? Her biggest concern at the pre-intervention is that his father wants to have a letter read from him at the intervention.

Poor Meredith: She's going to have to raise her own children, rather than have Alex do it. She's going to have to quit thinking that 'her person' is not supposed to have a life of their own, as if they were a 18th century British servant. Not only does she think that a childless dating couple WANTS to live with 3 children, she then wants to invite Amelia to live in the house also. Who's next, Maggie? It's been a year (supposedly), you took your children away and managed to raise them while you were in the worst stages of grief, 9 months pregnant, so do it now. I don't know how Richard and Catherine would ever get by without the speech from Meredith. And, look, just one speech, and they are off and running. They are surgeons, they are reminded how short life is every day.... but Meredith is their savior. Meanwhile, she is ripping Alex and Jo apart. Guess they don't meet with her approval. I happen to like THIS Bailey, the one from the first couple seasons. So glad to have her back. I am in agreement with those that think the time jump did no one well. You just had to have Meredith pregnant, so you needed a year. No, you didn't. She didn't need to be pregnant at all.

Illinois recently had an elected official die after the election where she was re-elected but before the start of her new term. The outgoing governor appointed her replacement until the end of her current term. The in-coming governor appointed her replacement for the beginning of her newly elected term. It was quite a discussion. So, most likely Lisa Madigan (the ILLINOIS states attorney) would appoint someone to begin Alicia's term, and then order a special election.