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I have only watched a few minutes so far, but Randall questioning the fact that people are able to smile and joke and eat is soooo Randall. What does he want them to do, sit Shiva? A PIA through the end. I am willing to give him a bit of a pass if he does better, but it’s not looking good. Back to watching!

I was so nervous that would happen that I had to fast forward. But damm, Lim? I really hope she’s not a goner, though it doesn’t look too good right now.

I’m pretty sure. It was listed as new, but I deleted it already so not sure. Sounds like it’s back on Hulu, though…

Anyone see the episode from this Friday about the serial killer in NC in the early 90's? He killed 10 women before being found. They did not even suspect a serial killer early on, even though young, black women kept being murdered in similar fashion. It turns out that they all either worked at one of two fast food restaurants or knew someone who worked there. Both restaurants had one man in common. He knew them all and was a "nice guy" so they freely opened the doors to their home to him. He would strangle them--and then go to their funerals to hug and console the families. Just horrific. The "police work" was more than sloppy. And then they held press conferences saying they had done an excellent job. And complained about not having enough resources and staffing. I don't know how much staffing is required for someone to ask "where did she work" and "who did she trust". The last question about trust is the one that actually led them to the killer, but not quickly enough for him to not kill one last victim. And at some point the police even blew off one of the victim's cousins who actually suggested the killer as a suspect. So of course he kept killing more and with more frequency, which finally got him caught.

I'm surprised no one else has brought this up. I get that they do not want to show the abyss of darkness of dementia, but I also thought Rebecca was the best behaved dementia patient ever (with her hair always perfectly done). No screaming fits in the middle of the night, no mood swings or personality changes... I'm not even talking about the absolute worse parts that loved ones cannot manage and land people in nursing homes. They did briefly show her having that "lost" look in her eyes I often see my mom have, but I guess that was their version of her more advanced dementia. I did connect to it when they showed how panicked she became when Miguel was out of sight for a minute. We've certainly experienced that. And I'm not saying I would have liked to have seen a less sanitized version necessarily, but I agreed about it being considerably underplayed.

I asked myself that same question--and thought Dateline did a better investigation that the original detectives.

Finally got around to seeing The Real story about Pam Hupp. It was an exercise in frustration. I mean, we all know the story, but the prosecutor did not do herself any favors with her denial. I suppose she can’t really admit to anything if she’s being investigated for misconduct, but still. She really came across as believing her own BS, against all evidence, similar to the way Pam would make statements and expected everyone to believe them as just facts. Leah just kept digging her head in the sand. I did love Keith’s exasperated “it was your job!”. Pam really had it easy-must be nice when the prosecutor takes the job of defending the killer and not letting facts come to light.

Melendez, though.... don't think the actor wanted out. I know, it was a while back. I would have much preferred he stuck around

From my perspective, that doesn't negate her racism. You can be crazy as hell and a racist too--that's not a good combination. And you can certainly date someone with a Latin surname and also have something against Latin people (or women, in this case). It reminds me of the old "I can't be racist, I have black friends!" defense. Doesn't hold water in my eyes. What does hold water for me is when I see a blog post where she wrote "Being white is more than just being aware of my skin, but of standing behind Skinheads -- who are always around, in spirit, as well" that's not coincidental. It's a way of life for her, and she was willing to post that on social media. Just an example of a horrible human being all around. I also heard a podcast where they discussed the case (I am not a podcast person but listened to that one on a long drive the other day) and heard them discussing Keith's defense of her, once people started to doubt her story. He apparently used the word "sub-human" to refer to the doubters. Which could have been an honest expression of disgust, but it's also a term that is known to be used in white pride groups to refer to other races. Just made me go "hmmmm". Maybe there's a reason these two were attracted to one another. I do believe that he was not in on Sherri's plan. But I still side-eye him for that.

Right, imagine how many other legitimate cases they could have worked and maybe even resolved in all this time. Then there's the virulently racist postings that she denied were hers. Yeah, right, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you, too. I knew she was racist, but not white-pride, skinhead- supporting racist. As a Latina woman, I was especially disgusted by her accusations. Down to the Mariachi music. I mean, wtf. Eyebrows too thin or too thick? She turns my stomach. I hope she gets a tough enough punishment. Not holding my breath, though.

This makes me wish there was an applause reaction on these forums. I may tune in again. But not making any promises.

I saw on the the news that the handyman was arrested. Apparently she had had some type of "dalliance" with him. So still a crime of passion, except not by hubby. We'll see if anything else comes up.

Exactly. It's one thing that these types of placements are often understaffed, but if you can't keep a minor from ending up in the hospital with life-threatening injuries, you should not be running the place or it needs to be shut down. Especially when they are well-aware of the "happy hour". What in the fresh hell.

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Apropos of nothing, I missed this episode because of my own mother playing with the remote, which she loves to do, and inadvertently canceling the recording before it aired. I have no proof, but I am pretty sure that's what happened because it was set to record. It appears that it just so happens to be the episode where they show more of Rebecca's decline with dementia, so... touché mom?

I haven't seen the show, but this always seems to happen when the fathers have a bit of money.... I will never forget the two ditzy daughters on Dateline (whose mother miraculously survived) and they were nearly giggling when discussing their father's infidelity towards their mother, saying something like "Daddy, don't do that". And these were grown women. Blech.

I wasn't going to watch, but started coming down with a migraine so I took something and tried to find a distraction.... I have stayed a bit away from true crime shows recently but this seemed to be the only thing on network tv. I had seen Elle Fanning on one of the late-night talk shows promoting the show, and she said something about Michelle being painted as "one-dimensional" that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Michelle's own struggles with mental health do not absolve her of the role she played in this. If I were the judge I would have given her the 20 years. Needless to say, I have no interest in seeing the show Elle was promoting. Don't have hulu and do not have plans to get it anytime soon anyways.

Oh, FFS. People can really be monsters sometimes.

I know people complained las season but I had no problem because of the hair and even facial hair styling. This season, though, I struggled on the first episode because they no longer had those differences. There was something about Anthony’s face, though, that reminded me about one of my own cousins so I latched onto that.

Personal opinion alert: For me, in all the years, there will NEVER, EVER be a better Oscars moment than Sebastián Yatra singing Dos Oruguitas. I thought it was a beautiful, heartfelt interpretation of a most beautiful song, made more meaningful by the fact that it was sung in my native language. The English version is good, but the Spanish version is much more special to me, and does have that timeless feeling Lin mentioned he was going for. I was grinning like a schoolgirl throughout, heart aflutter. The icing on the cake was the couple dancing. Bravo!!!

Good choices. I did love Sarah Bareilles' "Smile", which I am now realizing was from the 2014 Emmys. Though I did wish it would have been a straight out song without voice inserts in between. By the time they got to Robin Williams at the end, my misty eyes turned to full-on tears. Anyways, the point being, just do dignified song or instrumental piece, show the people you're supposed to be remembering, and call it a day.

Yes! Complete disappointment for me. They had announced the first live performance of the song, so I was envisioning something along the lines of this Spanish version (these are kids from a theatre school in Chihuahua, Mexico), but with costumes and Hollywood magic. If those kids could do such a great job, surely professionals with an Oscars budget could blow the roof off the place. I was wrong, because this? Was not that. ETA: How did the Oscars butcher this so badly? You’re gonna hype up the first live performance of this song and then just not... sing... the song?

Have not finished reading the thread, but you beat me to it--the only way I would accept Will being invited back to the Oscars would be to have him sit there in listening to comedians roast him for a full five minutes (with a couple of strong security guards for good measure). Him needing to sit there smiling with his rage brewing inside might make his head explode. I used to be a fan. No more. Glad I did not get around to buying his book I was planning to buy.

Saw a commercial for the Oscars this Sunday and the announcer mentioned the first live performance of "We Don't Talk about Bruno" and I, for one, cannot wait. I won't be home so I will be dvr'ing it, but thought I'd share it for those who would be interested. You're welcome.

Ha! Also, so true 👌 Felt the same way about ER too--stopped watching fairly early on and did not understand the adoration. Kept waiting for it to end and it felt like it went on for millenia...