debbie311

Didn't I see in some episode that Joy's mother was pregnant at the same time as Joy? Or did I just dream that?

I'm so confused with all these wedding and births. And the way they mix them up - planning a wedding, then a birth, then back to the wedding. Last night Jinger let them know she was pregnant, and next thing you know she is giving birth. Hard to keep up!

I was also surprised that Kelly was laid up for a week. I had cataract surgery last month and I know it's a different surgery, but I had to take it easy the first day but was fine, up and about after that. Of course no heavy lifting, bending at the waist or exertion. I also had to do the drops several times a day for a month, but I was able to do it myself, I didn't need my husband to do it for me. I wonder if she was milking it or if they just wanted to add a little drama. The hair and the cooking thing - yes. How about a ponytail? You wonder how much of that hair ends up in the food. And the water/dustpan wake-up?! Yikes. Nasty. I wonder how they all keep from getting sick sometimes, but I am kind of a germaphobe.

It struck me when Josie and Kelton were standing under that covered bridge and he was asking to formally court her, that his dad and her parents were standing in the near distance watching everything, like they are in junior high. At least they hugged each other, as opposed to the Duggars who can only do the side hug thing. It really is a totally different culture - I mean, the fact that they can NEVER be alone with their intended is just so weird!

The honeymoon scenes just seemed so awkward. Maybe Tori is just uncomfortable on camera, but she didn't look very happy to me. There were a couple of times when I think she wanted Bobby to be more demonstrative but he wasn't. At one point he said he kept waiting for someone to come and basically tell them they were doing something wrong. She said that it is difficult to not be able to do anything, very little touching, etc. and then, BOOM - you are married and can do anything you want. How can anyone think this is a good thing? I also think the sadness and missing the person who has gotten married is a little over the top. I don't get why Kelly goes over and decorates the apartment while couple is on honeymoon. Doesn't she have quite a few younger children at home that need her? Maybe I am psychoanalyzing this too much, but I get the feeling there is something missing in her own life that she is living vicariously through the ones getting married, or these weddings are creating a diversion from her boring life.

The Oceans 8 interview with Cate Blanchette and Sarah Paulson was a hot mess. Honestly can't remember when I have seen something like that on live TV. Sarah and Cate did not help, they seemed to be doing "schtick" and talked to each other non-stop to the point of actually being rude, but Hoda had absolutely NO control of the interview. She just sat there and laughed hysterically while they babbled to each other. I was embarrassed for her. At one point they told her that her mascara was running. At that point Savannah actually came on the set to take over, I think someone on production crew told her to do that to get some control. All the while Hoda was laughing. I used to like Hoda but I think she is in over her head.

The more I think about it, maybe a spin-off/reboot without Roseanne could work. Of course, they would have to kill her off. In one of the last episodes from this season she was shown to be using opioids. Maybe the new show could open with the family returning to the house from her funeral. We don't know at first how she died, but then it comes out that she overdosed. I can picture the family sitting in the living room, dressed in black. This could also be a teachable moment, because there is an opioid crisis right now. Maybe her knee surgery had been delayed and she continued to self-medicate which ended in tragedy. Also very timely in the news right now. Make it a one-hour show to deal with it and then move on and never really talk about her after that. I know that sounds kind of unrealistic, but hey, its television. With the characters that are left they can come up with quite a few storylines.

I think that is true for just about any job. Happens all the time to politicians, CEOs of corporations, etc. No matter how good you are, you cross a certain line and you're out. Rightly so in my opinion.

I don't think any kind of spin-off would work now or in the near future. Think of it, they would have to refer to her in some way from time to time, even if the character was dead, and it would leave a bad taste. Just, no. I think Roseanne is going to be untouchable for a while, maybe forever. I read a couple of interviews with her when the series reboot started, and she seemed happy living in Hawaii. She should just stay there now. The only channel I have seen Cosby reruns recently on is BET and I don't know if they are even airing them anymore, especially after he was found guilty. It is a shame that the other cast will lose out on the residuals $$$.

ABC canceling Roseanne has reaffirmed my faith that people can still do the honorable thing. Lately I have been beginning to wonder.

Where I live Comcast does not carry the Hoda/Kathie Lee hour of the show. They show Kelly and Ryan instead. I hadn't seen Kathie Lee in a long time but saw her on the royal wedding telecast. Yikes! She looked awful. Her hair is too bleached and too long and straight, making it look thin. She looks like she has lost a bit of weight also. I used to like her years ago when she did Live with Regis, but now she just looks kind of pathetic, like she is trying too hard.

Manteca, CA. He graduated from HS here (Sierra HS). I am assuming his parents still live here.

I agree. My husband who was sitting next to me thought she said "the dog is dead!" and he thought she was overacting a bit. I told him, NO, her DAD is dead!

Savannah's voice bugs me. She sounds too little-girly, almost whiney.

The tiny house lady. I could not live ALONE out there in the boonies. It would be one thing if she were married or had a family or roommate, but to be so totally alone and isolated - no. I can imagine how pitch dark it must be at night.

Garrett's family lives in my city. Becca and Garrett were here last month for the hometown visit. It was on the front page of the newspaper and a lot of people showed up (I did not go). I'm excited to see this season for that reason!

Re graduations, the way it works here where I live (CA) - the day of graduation, there is a "grad nite" when the kids have a supervised all-night party at the school. There is also very often a bus trip to Disneyland, where they close it down for high school grad night with lots of schools attending. But ... there is always a family party, often on the following weekend. Graduation is a rite of passage and deserves to be celebrated. I do put it up there with weddings and funerals. That's the thing that bothered me the most about the episode, that for the rest of his life Junior is going to remember how his graduation was spoiled by his selfish parents. And sorry, Dre looked ridiculous in that t-shirt and I don't care how much it cost. As to why I watch and then comment/complain on this forum, I think that's what it's for. I am sure I will watch next week, but part of me wonders if this show has "jumped the shark."

Bow and Dre just separated, it's not even a legal separation. Believe me, if they do decide to legally separate/divorce, there will definitely be plenty of paperwork and disclosure about employment, assets and liabilities with lawyers to make sure of it. Been there, done that. I am sure Bow is not trying to hide her employment for that reason and wouldn't be able to even if she wanted to. In my case I would have told Dre, but I think it just serves to illustrate the point that they can't and don't communicate.

Going to a neighbor that you don't even know at 2 am to get on their internet is completely unrealistic and totally ridiculous. In real life, you would tell the little girl that you are very sorry, but the Skype call with her mother is just not going to be possible right now. I get that the show is meant to be for entertainment purposes, but it's really hard for me to take it seriously or feel much sympathy. Dan and Roseanne have made poor choices and now they are suffering the consequences. I'm about their age. We came of age during a time when you could actually get a decent job with just a high school education. You could work your way up though the ranks and build up a decent retirement. I know MANY people who did this and are enjoying life now. Those days are gone, unfortunately. But my point is, the Connors made and continue to make poor decisions and will suffer for it. Why didn't one or both of them get some re-training for a job that would at least allow them to pay their utilities? Why did Dan quit a job that would have provided some security? On an on. And while it was nice that he suggested that he and DJ could find work fixing motorcycles, that would be a supplemental SIDE job, not a main job that would support a family, at least not in their case.

I won't be interested in a show about Bow and Dre separating, dating others, dealing with divorce. To me the whole storyline is depressing. It's pretty sad if because the kids are getting older, some going away to college, they have to throw in the drama of a separation for ratings or whatever. The thing (for me) is the interaction between Bow and Dre is ugly - not sure I will be able to forget about the way they screamed at each other. And I agree with whoever said that a major event (illness, death) does not necessarily save a marriage. Sometimes it just piles on more stress. If they go through some trauma and then fall into each other's arms and life happily ever after, sorry, that is going to look totally fake. Based on what we have seen so far, they need to be in serious therapy, maybe couples as well as individual. They both have issues.

I also think that there will be some crisis, maybe a serious illness or a death, that will make Bo and Dre realize what is really important. I sure hope they don't do some kind of cliff-hanger. I like that the show has tackled some serious issues in the past, but this was painful to watch. It seems to have come out of nowhere -- like they hired some all new writers or something. That scene where Dre was remembering giving the single rose to Bo and her laughing (ridiculing) about it. Who knew he was hanging on to all this resentment and she was so insensitive? It's like they have just completely fallen out of love, they are just so bitter. And I agree, I much prefer the old kitchen over the new one. There was nothing wrong with the old one, but I guess they wanted to throw in some conflict.

Kelly almost acts like she is on an antidepressant. Or maybe it is just her extremely laid-back personality. It was - what - two days before the wedding and she was just now unpacking the flower girls dresses? Oh well, ha ha, Michaela will fix them. They are so disorganized! I would think that with that many kids you would have learned by now to be super-organized. Or maybe her "oh well" attitude is what helps her survive. Yes I occasionally watch the show, but I am not impressed by the Bates family.

The affair with Trump happened in 2006, and she was not married at the time. And I also think she meant that she had never told her current husband about what happened with Trump. I can easily understand that.

Glad I am not the only one who thinks there was something off about that couple. I also suspect mental health issues. Washing the dishes in the bathroom sink for 16 years??!! Did you see the sponge thing on the side of the bathroom sink, which was right next to the toilet? So it was just left there all the time while they did their regular bathroom "stuff?" Yikes.

I know someone who got very sick from eating raw cookie dough. I just won't take the chance. As Maya Angelou said, "When you know better, you do better."